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Wolfn
26-09-07, 11:45 PM
Salaam alikum.

I'm wondering something. In the movie "Final Destination", some high school kids get off a plane before it explodes, so they cheat death. However, they all die in freak accidents afterwards because Death is still after them.

I was watching this movie last night, and I was wondering: In the movie, Death has a design and plan for everyone, controlling when they live or die. Allah (SWT) has a plan for all of us, so does that mean if we cheat death, we'll die very soon because it's "still our time"?

I was just wondering this after watching the movie. What's everyone's thoughts on this?

brjimc
26-09-07, 11:48 PM
Salaam alikum.

I'm wondering something. In the movie "Final Destination", some high school kids get off a plane before it explodes, so they cheat death. However, they all die in freak accidents afterwards because Death is still after them.

I was watching this movie last night, and I was wondering: In the movie, Death has a design and plan for everyone, controlling when they live or die. Allah (SWT) has a plan for all of us, so does that mean if we cheat death, we'll die very soon because it's "still our time"?

I was just wondering this after watching the movie. What's everyone's thoughts on this?

well, I dont think so.

I cheated death by Allahs will once in a car accident. It was truly a miracle I survived. That was 25 years ago. :D

Wolfn
26-09-07, 11:56 PM
well, I dont think so.

I cheated death by Allahs will once in a car accident. It was truly a miracle I survived. That was 25 years ago. :D

Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

mystical-hk
27-09-07, 08:21 AM
Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

Yes this is very true. I dont believe you can cheat death. When the time comes (which Allah has chosen) for one to die then there is nothing anybody can do.

This is why it is so important to always pray to Allah as no one knows when their time will come.

Te'oma
27-09-07, 08:43 AM
There is no cheating death, it is as inevitable as the seasons or the rising of the sun. Each of us have an alloted time and when it is up, it's up.
By rights I should have died several times but all that I can fathom is that it wasn't my time yet and alhumdilulah, Allah had other plans for me. This said, insha allah I will die a muslim

the_middle_road
27-09-07, 12:22 PM
وَلَنْ يُؤَخِّرَ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِذَا جَاءَ أَجَلُهَا وَاللَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ

"But to no soul will Allah grant respite when the time appointed (for it) has come; and Allah is well acquainted with (all) that ye do."
(63: 11)

brjimc
27-09-07, 05:01 PM
Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

True. :)

Treasured Soul
28-09-07, 02:08 PM
Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

I think uv answered it brother :up:

There is no cheating death, cuz if we said we cheated death, we're saying Allah (swt) plans for when our time is/was up have failed. He, the almighty, never fails.

If you survive from a freak car accident or plane crash, count it as a blessing from Allah (swt) that he wanted you to live longer. May it be a day or two or 50 years ... each additional day we live, its a blessing ... we're given another chance to repent our sins :)

muslimuk
28-09-07, 02:11 PM
well, I dont think so.

I cheated death by Allahs will once in a car accident. It was truly a miracle I survived. That was 25 years ago. :D

Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

This is not cheating death rather your time had not come..
As muslims we belive our life span (ajaal) is already determined by allah.. so we will die when we spposed to.. can increase it or decrease it..
you survived the acccident cos it was not time for you

xzaifir
28-09-07, 02:43 PM
Allah chose whether the person dieing or not. So, what we are suppose to do is just wait for it.

Though, ye still can prevent it from happening sometime and if you survive it that is Allah's will ^^.

Wolfn
28-09-07, 05:10 PM
I think uv answered it brother :up:

There is no cheating death, cuz if we said we cheated death, we're saying Allah (swt) plans for when our time is/was up have failed. He, the almighty, never fails.

If you survive from a freak car accident or plane crash, count it as a blessing from Allah (swt) that he wanted you to live longer. May it be a day or two or 50 years ... each additional day we live, its a blessing ... we're given another chance to repent our sins :)

Okay, now I'm going into the story of the Final Destination movies. What if we had a vision of our upcoming death, and we stopped it? We were supposed to die, but we saw what would happen so we changed it. Then what?

.: Anna :.
28-09-07, 05:12 PM
Okay, now I'm going into the story of the Final Destination movies. What if we had a vision of our upcoming death, and we stopped it? We were supposed to die, but we saw what would happen so we changed it. Then what?

as Muslims we know that we cant

Te'oma
28-09-07, 05:12 PM
Okay, now I'm going into the story of the Final Destination movies. What if we had a vision of our upcoming death, and we stopped it? We were supposed to die, but we saw what would happen so we changed it. Then what?

It's an impossible scenario

MG
28-09-07, 05:14 PM
Salaam alikum.

I'm wondering something. In the movie "Final Destination", some high school kids get off a plane before it explodes, so they cheat death. However, they all die in freak accidents afterwards because Death is still after them.

I was watching this movie last night, and I was wondering: In the movie, Death has a design and plan for everyone, controlling when they live or die. Allah (SWT) has a plan for all of us, so does that mean if we cheat death, we'll die very soon because it's "still our time"?

I was just wondering this after watching the movie. What's everyone's thoughts on this?



wa alaikuma slaam

if you believ you can cheat death then u believe u can cheat Allah SWT, no one can cheat death, absolutely no one, if u have a near miss , its because allah swt saved you, why? becos it is not your decreed time of death, it is peoples arrogance and pride that make them feel they have some kind of power over their lives, wen they say "so so cheated death!" :rolleyes:

Scimitar_ A
28-09-07, 08:25 PM
its part of a muslims' belief in the devine decree, when your time comes it comes, after all the pen is lifted and the ink is dry, that knowledge is with Allah (swt) only, we dont know what is to come, that is the whole point of it.

Ive read stories in arabic news papers many time about things like this, one in particular, there was a man who fell from the 8th floor of a constrcution site on to concreate below and got up and survived, seconds later he was crosssing the road and was killed by a car...

this clearly shows that when it is our time it is out time, im sure many of you are familiar with the stories of the footballer who died in on the pitch just like that, there is many vids of it on youtube.

just sharing my thoughts on this topic

Sabr&Shukr
28-09-07, 09:19 PM
Salaams

Ok - you CAN'T cheat death.

When the time Allah swt has set for you is here - thats it. Theres no avoiding it or changing it. Its His Will and it will happen as and when He willed it.

If you are in a dangerous situation and survive ( such as car accident) or near fatal illness and you survive- it is because He willed you to survive. You yourself did nothing, no matter how it may seem..Maybe Allah swt put you in that situation to teach you a test or remind you of death or remind you of His power - but if you didn't die then thats cos He didnt want you to.

Sorry to be morbid but our time is set, its written and nothing we do can change that - its all up to Allah swt - everything happens according to His Will.

Wasalaams

Mahmud
28-09-07, 09:57 PM
well, I dont think so.

I cheated death by Allahs will once in a car accident. It was truly a miracle I survived. That was 25 years ago. :D

dont mean to be rude but...: YOU CANT CHEAT DEATH!!!!!!!

Allah SWT has a reason for everything, do not question his power. Think you can cheat Allah? ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

Dont act like Anansi...(african legend...)

Mahmud
28-09-07, 09:59 PM
Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.

BEAUTIFUL answer. Mashallah, may allah increase your wisdom, and mine as well. I get impatient at times....i deserve a good :torture:


:up::up::up:

:inlove::inlove::inlove:

:D:D:D

brjimc
28-09-07, 11:00 PM
dont mean to be rude but...: YOU CANT CHEAT DEATH!!!!!!!

Allah SWT has a reason for everything, do not question his power. Think you can cheat Allah? ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

Dont act like Anansi...(african legend...)


lol bro.. Got your point.

But the angel of death that night was 3 feet from me and took the driver of the other car.

Im sure he asked Allah who to take before he did it as he looked at me. :rolleyes:

The presence of death is a soul chilling feeling, literally.

aisha2007
29-09-07, 02:19 AM
Okay, now I'm going into the story of the Final Destination movies. What if we had a vision of our upcoming death, and we stopped it? We were supposed to die, but we saw what would happen so we changed it. Then what?

you cant change it
and is there no better thing you can do during ramadan than watch hollywood fictional tripe?

bint
29-09-07, 02:23 AM
Maybe you didn't cheat death, but it was Allah's Will for you to live? Allah controls when we live and die.
with regards to this statement of ures. how cud she have cheated death?

thats nonsense. whats real is fate. Allah has chosen our time.

Mohammed_123
30-09-07, 02:43 PM
i have been close to death 6 times now...in total...

im still alive... whats the reason for me being alive, i havent got the slightest but i think theres a greater meaning behind it...

Ibn Sina
30-09-07, 11:07 PM
The only way you could cheat death is if you couldn't die, and we all know that's impossible ....

brjimc
30-09-07, 11:17 PM
The only way you could cheat death is if you couldn't die, and we all know that's impossible ....

even if you couldnt die, you couldnt cheat death because death cant have you.. :rolleyes: