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abdulhakeem
24-09-07, 04:05 PM
September 23, 2007
Roger Dobson and John Elliott

Psychologists have found a justification for the male strangehold on Nobel prizes – there are twice as many men as women in the brightest 2% of the population.

But although men may win the top prizes, they cannot claim a clear-cut victory in an intellectual battle of the sexes. The study shows that men also cluster at the opposite extreme, with twice as many men as women stuck in the least intelligent 2%.

Seeking to compare inherent male and female intelligence has proved perilous for academics – last year Lawrence Summers, the president of Harvard, lost his job after he suggested women might not scale the same intellectual heights as men.

Comparisons have been flawed because of the difficulty of accounting for unequal opportunities. But the new findings, in research by four British-based psychologists – all men – claim to untangle the effects of family background.

They analysed the intelligence of more than 2,500 brothers and sisters, measured by tests in science, maths, English and mechanical ability. Women scored significantly higher on language skills; men won on science and arithmetic.

There was no significant difference in the average intelligence of men and women, when all the test results were taken together. However, the analysis showed that men were far more likely to be be found at extremes of the intelligence scale. At the time of the study, men had been awarded 545 out of the 557 Nobel prizes for science.

However, individuals often defy the patterns. Carol Vorderman, the broadcaster – who has a reported IQ of more than 150 – has made a career out of her mathematical skills.

Scientific achievement runs in the Vorderman family, as she reveals on BBC1’s Who Do You Think You Are? this week. Her great-grandfather, Adolphe, helped on work that led to a fellow Dutch scientist winning a Nobel prize for discovering vitamins.

Timothy Bates, a professor of psychology at Edinburgh University, one of the study’s authors, said: “Men were more likely to be both at the very top and at the very bottom.”

One theory holds that men seek to boost their intelligence, to make themselves more attractive to females, while women’s chances of reproducing depend less on their perceived intelligence.

“The female developmental programme may be tilted more towards ensuring survival and [enjoying] the safety of the middle ground,” said Bates.

Experts said the research could not eliminate the fact that, even within a family, boys and girls would be given a different upbringing. Joan Harvey of Newcastle University said: “Men and boys are socialised into higher levels of achievement.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2512722.ece

cats
24-09-07, 04:17 PM
Were the researchers who came to this conclusion in the top 2% or the bottom 2%?

neelu
24-09-07, 08:23 PM
Psychologists have found a justification for the male strangehold on Nobel prizes – there are twice as many men as women in the brightest 2% of the population.

But although men may win the top prizes, they cannot claim a clear-cut victory in an intellectual battle of the sexes. The study shows that men also cluster at the opposite extreme, with twice as many men as women stuck in the least intelligent 2%.


This makes complete sense:up:

Hiking
22-09-08, 04:34 PM
:rotfl:
Don't ask me why I bumped up another old thread!

Irfan GBH
22-09-08, 04:48 PM
I'm in the top 2% :hidban:

KeeKee
22-09-08, 04:58 PM
funny :rotfl:

shaquille20
22-09-08, 10:31 PM
Were the researchers who came to this conclusion in the top 2% or the bottom 2%?

I'm not too worried either... I am in the top 2 per cent as well...

Tahiyah
23-09-08, 12:50 AM
i think many men are perfectly capable of being both at the same time :o

Cartman
23-09-08, 01:10 AM
excellent, Allah has sent me some vindication..hahaha

shaquille20
23-09-08, 01:41 AM
i think many men are perfectly capable of being both at the same time :o

Yep... especially when it comes to cleaning the room, we tend to be on the lower 2%

But then again, thats what women are for ;)

GuCcI
23-09-08, 03:09 AM
But then again, thats what women are for ;)

not all women :rolleyes:

shaquille20
23-09-08, 04:04 AM
not all women :rolleyes:

Hmmmm... not according to the manual below though

THE GOOD WIFE’S GUIDE

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious dinner ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal (especially his favourite dish) is part of the warm welcome needed.
Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you’ll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. he has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.
Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children’s hands and faces (if they are small), comb their hair and if necessary change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.
Be happy to see him.
Listen to him. You may have a dozen things to tell him but the moment of is arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late, or goes out to dinner or other places of entertainment without you. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure.
Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. have a warm or cool drink ready for him.
Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.
Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. remember he is the master of the house and as such will always excercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
A good wife always knows her place.

http://ggjake.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/good-wifes-guide/

[BTW, this is intended for fun not serious]

Hiking
23-09-08, 05:15 AM
THE GOOD HUSBAND'S GUIDE:

Remember that your married :smack:

zelda
23-09-08, 05:09 PM
Men are smartest and dumbest

that was smart of them to admit.

shaquille20
24-09-08, 12:07 AM
THE GOOD HUSBAND'S GUIDE:

Remember that your married :smack:


well, that true... :hidban: Hence the reason men live far less longer than their wives...

(*_Hamzah
24-09-08, 02:44 AM
Roger Dobson and John Elliott have men names but I assume both of them are women.

enchanted_1984
24-09-08, 07:09 AM
i think many men are perfectly capable of being both at the same time :o

The most rational comment so far.

Jilbabi
24-09-08, 08:41 PM
THE GOOD HUSBAND'S GUIDE:

Remember that your married :smack:

i have to say a wife should defo be obedient but not a doormat .. what about her needs when he comes home .. he should ask about her too - after hes relxed ofcourse! ... and no she shouldnt be tip toeing.. but i understand she needs to be considerate