Al Naqshabandi Travel

[siqveland]

salam

I travelled for Hajj with this company 2006-07 and faced many problems as has been detailed by other people on this site...

The thing is unlike many of the people who have posted here saying they are still owed money ............ I actually still owe them money...

I managed to contact the organiser, Saif Abdel Kader, when I returned and was willing to pay him what was owed however he was extremely rude and was asking for nearly £1000 on top of this for so called extra costs that they incurred and he said that if I didnt pay in full then he would get his lawyers involved...

There is NO WAY I was going to pay him more than I had initially agreed on especially considering their conduct and treatment of us during our stay so figured I would let him involve his lawyers if he wants to cuz there is no way that he would win..........

That was back in April and I have not heard anything from him since (and I have been unable to contact him aswell) and so I am unsure what I should do??? should I just send him the money?? or should I try and give it to people that have not received a refund???

Any advice would be appreciated

[Ismail Simjee]

Mr Chaudhry, the CEO of Bestway Cash & Carry is leading on the litigation against Al Naqshbandi.

It is easy to fiind out the contact as Bestway cash n carry has several outlets in London through which you can make contact with him.

Check with him about the money issue. Like you there are a few more people in Scotland who actually owe money to Naqshbandi but are holding back the payment pending the result of the legal action against this gentleman.

Ismail Simjee

[Hekmaa]

What you owe him you must pay him and don't pay anything extra, but to hold back what you owe him is not in religion. I don't know what your agreements were and if they agreed to look after you while you were in Hajj, but your Hajj is not accepted until you pay him what you owe him.

Hajj itself is not a pampering event, it is one of many tests and trials, a lot of the travel arrangements are not done by local agents, but by agents in Saudi, the local people in uk and elsewhere are simply proxy. Therefore this fellow may not even be responsible.

Therefore akhi don't jeopardizes your Ibadah due to the short comings of this person, and no two Muslims should take their internal issues to a kaffir court if they can resolve it.

and Allah knows best

[Ismail Simjee]

What you owe him you must pay him and don't pay anything extra, but to hold back what you owe him is not in religion. I don't know what your agreements were and if they agreed to look after you while you were in Hajj, but your Hajj is not accepted until you pay him what you owe him.

Hajj itself is not a pampering event, it is one of many tests and trials, a lot of the travel arrangements are not done by local agents, but by agents in Saudi, the local people in uk and elsewhere are simply proxy. Therefore this fellow may not even be responsible.

Therefore akhi don't jeopardizes your Ibadah due to the short comings of this person, and no two Muslims should take their internal issues to a kaffir court if they can resolve it.

and Allah knows best


This is a sound suggestion by Hekmaa and within the remits of the Shariah.

However, the original point is not of NOT paying at all but rather what this brother should do in respect of the money outstanding to Naqshbandi. I dont think there is any suggestion by this brother of not desiring to make the payment at all.

The second point here is that Naqshbandi had deliberaedly misled their pilgrims not for the first time but also the previous year on the service it was to provide.

The Saudi counterparts had no role in the missing service from Naqshbandi at all. Even if they did, it is not the UK based pilgrim's concern.

Third point is that there are many other agents similar or worse then Naqshbandi.

Fourth point is that there are times when good and genuine tour agents are let down badly by those they rely upon in Saudi Arabia. This do happen and it did happen with my group last year. That is why I hae withdrawn from offering packaged tourss this year because the let down by my counter part in Saudi Arabia is not due to my pilgrim' s faults and they must be protected.

The litigation against Naqshbandi is necessary, albeit, in a kuffar court. Why? Because we live in a kuffar land and there is no other recourse available to us muslims to seek justice.

[siqveland]

Jazakhala kher for your replies...

still unsure about what I should do... will prob contact my local imam for some more advice..

[Ismail Simjee]

The best way forward is to pay naqshbandi what he is owed.

Allah-Azza wa Jal- Says in the Qur'an that no one will carry another's burden.

Hence, even if naqshbandi had failed their pilgrims miserably, it will be they .ie, naqshbandi, who will have to carry their burden and account for that.

What you owe them is what you agreed to pay. Their default in not delivering the promised service cannot be penalised by your witholding the due. If you withold and die while still owing them, you will have to pay in the Aakhira and over there is no £, $ or Riyals.

What I did suggest to you is to contact Bestways and see whether they will accept this sum and use it for future settlements with naqshbandi.

In the end you will have to handover this sum. So do it while Allah Has Granted you your life.

Was Salam

Ismail