Where is Our UMMAH???

[~Jafrene~]

Wheres the Ummah that used to help each other,help each other in the right and wrong who did a all the give and take, the peaceful Ummah, that only strived for our supreme Lord Allah. Where is our Ummah that we used to know?????????????????????????????????

[MMS]

they became victims of the life cycle :0:

[~Jafrene~]

No, they went ashtray with a blink of an Eye

[Cartman]

some in saudi arabia became defiled by the greed of their leaders. Their leaders becae prostitutes to the United States.

Some in Syria and Iraq have been swept up in socialism and pan arabism.

Some in Eypt are scared as hell and are the united states little lap dog.

Some in afghanistan took it too far.

Some in Africa are crazily poor because of what the white man did to their lands, and as a result can't worry about anything outside of their region.

Some in UK and US have become sell outs and fell under this modernist crap and have lost anything that resembles belief in islam.

Some in pakistan and eastern asia are still under the influences of culture alot more than they are by islam.

[~Jafrene~]

and Yet.................................





ISLAM is the fastest growing religion in the world SubhannAllah. WE must keep our deen strong within us.

[Jidal]

and Yet.................................





ISLAM is the fastest growing religion in the world SubhannAllah. WE must keep our deen strong within us.

Brave words Ahki!

[Phoenix CG]

doesn't matter if its the worlds fastest growing religion, all of the muslims put together cannot reach the status of the sahabah ra, quality, not quantity

[~Jafrene~]

Brave words Ahki!

Ukhti :up:

[miss-islamic]

some in saudi arabia became defiled by the greed of their leaders. Their leaders becae prostitutes to the United States.
Some in Syria and Iraq have been swept up in socialism and pan arabism.
Some in Eypt are scared as hell and are the united states little lap dog.
Some in afghanistan took it too far.
Some in Africa are crazily poor because of what the white man did to their lands, and as a result can't worry about anything outside of their region.
Some in UK and US have become sell outs and fell under this modernist crap and have lost anything that resembles belief in islam.
Some in pakistan and eastern asia are still under the influences of culture alot more than they are by islam.

Well said, mashaAllah…:up:
The Ummah is full of contradictions; it has both the richest countries/people and poorest countries/people in the world. Your know 80 % of the refugees in the world are Muslims…

[LiveIslam]

they are to attached to the world. today my family went to a party. it was praying time so me and my sisters went to pray in the car, we took turns to pray and my brother was there (he aint practising at all) and i saw him laughing at us praying like 'what are we doing'.

i mean i would have expected a non muslim to laugh, but now adays our own people are mocking us.

[~Jafrene~]

they are to attached to the world. today my family went to a party. it was praying time so me and my sisters went to pray in the car, we took turns to pray and my brother was there (he aint practising at all) and i saw him laughing at us praying like 'what are we doing'.

i mean i would have expected a non muslim to laugh, but now adays our own people are mocking us.

Thats very true. i guess thats wAT happens when we live in such surroundings whereby no people have respect for muslims. Sis i advise you to read killer on the streets it s a really interesting book

[`asiya]

Wheres the Ummah that used to help each other,help each other in the right and wrong who did a all the give and take, the peaceful Ummah, that only strived for our supreme Lord Allah. Where is our Ummah that we used to know?????????????????????????????????

yes its true on the whole, but having been a muslim for 7 years now, i have also seen some amazing kindnesses, and beautiful examples from many muslims Alhamdulillah and its these examples that makes me know that Islam is also growing stronger in the hearts of many Alhamdulilah and the ummah will become strong again insha Allah. We have to unite on what Allah and his messenger have said salALlahu alleyhi wa salam.

[~Jafrene~]

yes its true on the whole, but having been a muslim for 7 years now, i have also seen some amazing kindnesses, and beautiful examples from many muslims Alhamdulillah and its these examples that makes me know that Islam is also growing stronger in the hearts of many Alhamdulilah and the ummah will become strong again insha Allah. We have to unite on what Allah and his messenger have said salALlahu alleyhi wa salam.

yes sis there are many muslims that have a good heart and act like muslims. But sis am tlking abt those people that are "muslims" by name. the ones that are muslims by nature but not by nurture those tht insult islam and dnt behave in a islamic manner, am sure u have seen many of them which i am tlknig abt?

[zaki]

The only time the Ummah will be untied is when we all follow the Quran and the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that is the one and only time we will be untied, until that happens, i'm sad to say that there will be many sections, leading to bad things like Muslim killing Muslim.

There are good Muslims, but sadly there are bad ones too

May Allah guide us all!

[al-ghazalli]

The Ummah at large needs spirtual purification from many of the spirtual diseases which have become predominant in today's society. If we learn to change our selves for the better then Allah will start to help us.

But if we refuse to change then what right do we to ask our Creator for help, when we are unwilling to help ourselves first.

Allah Tala says in the Noble Qur`an that he will never change the status of the people intill they themselves change first.

Everything begins with each person looking deep inside themselves instead of looking at the faults of others.

Imam Shafi (Rahimullah) said it beautifully when he stated;

لسانك لا تذكر به عورة امرئ *** فكلّـك عورات وللناس ألسـن
وعينك إن أبدت إليك معايباً *** فدعها وقل : يا عين للناس أعينُ

Let not your tongue mention the shame of another
For you yourself are covered in shame and all men have tongues.
If your eye falls upon the sins of your brother
Shield them and say: "O my eye! All men have eyes!"

['Abdullah]

The Ummah at large needs spirtual purification from many of the spirtual diseases which have become predominant in today's society. If we learn to change our selves for the better then Allah will start to help us.

But if we refuse to change then what right do we to ask our Creator for help, when we are unwilling to help ourselves first.

Allah Tala says in the Noble Qur`an that he will never change the status of the people intill they themselves change first.

Everything begins with each person looking deep inside themselves instead of looking at the faults of others.

Imam Shafi (Rahimullah) said it beautifully when he stated;

لسانك لا تذكر به عورة امرئ *** فكلّـك عورات وللناس ألسـن
وعينك إن أبدت إليك معايباً *** فدعها وقل : يا عين للناس أعينُ

Let not your tongue mention the shame of another
For you yourself are covered in shame and all men have tongues.
If your eye falls upon the sins of your brother
Shield them and say: "O my eye! All men have eyes!"
If someone needs the purification of heart, that's our Mullas and Religious Leadership which is a bunch of Coward Hypocrites. They don't consider this Ummah like a body, that if one part of it is afflicted the whole body should feel the pain.
In the last month, in the heart of Pakistan, in the heart of Islamabad, Lal Masjid was bombed by Kuffar Paki Army, but the so called scholars with long beards and big turbans showed their hypocritic face to the world. No one came to help the innocent children, girls and boys who were under seige in the Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa. Hypocrite Mullas of Muttahida Majlis Amal went to London to play politics, because to them 'Western Democracy' is halaal and saving the lives of our purified sisters in Jamia Hafsa who were huffaz and were become 'ulama, was haraam.
Hypocrite, stomach worshipping scholars of Rawalpindi, Islamabad didn't even stage any protests in the streets, though if a single scholar of them is shot down, they make lots of hue and cry in the streets.
All religious madrasahs in Pakistan remained quiet over this bloody massacre. Their coward hypocrite scholars didn't let madrasah students go out to stage protests or do something for their innocent brothers and sisters stuck in Lal Masjid.
That all happened because these Mullas didn't have their kids inside the Jamia Hafsa and Lal Masjid, those martyrs belonged to poor families, who would come forward to protect them? Nobody.
Because this is not an Ummah, this is the bunch of a hypocrite mullas.

But Alhamdulillah, we do have a light of hope within these hypocrites, the Mujahideen, the Taliban who felt this pain of Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa, they are continually revenging the bloodshed within Jamia Hafsa and insha Allah, they will be victorious.

[al faqeer]

Why do you people always have to start from the Top Up ?


How many of you muslims Know if your neighbors have food in their house or not ?

How many of you will actually help your neighbors if they didnt ?

['Abdullah]

Why do you people always have to start from the Top Up ?


How many of you muslims Know if your neighbors have food in their house or not ?

How many of you will actually help your neighbors if they didnt ?
How many Mullas do that in the community? And why the heck you are talking about 'hungry' souls, talk about the 'dying bodies' whom these hypocrite Mullas of Pakistan left at the mercy of Pakistani Kuffar. Where did their lectures of Quran and Sunnah go? Where were Tablighi cowards? Where was Salafi da'wah? Where were Deobandis, Barelvis?
If they had their sons and daughters in the Lal Masjid, they wouldn't go for 40 nights, they would march to the Lal Masjid and do any desperate attemps to save their brothers and sisters.

[Raziel]

Wheres the Ummah that used to help each other,help each other in the right and wrong who did a all the give and take, the peaceful Ummah, that only strived for our supreme Lord Allah. Where is our Ummah that we used to know?????????????????????????????????

what are you refering to sis... ? :scratch:

theres people on this forum who are Hypocrites, Allah knows well who they are, they speak against the Commands of Allah and His Rasul :saw: and have the audacity to attempt to justify it...

we are Never told to side with Hypocrites...

when it comes to Allah Subhana Uta'ala and his Rasul :saw: our response should be "We hear and we Obey"

not "we hear and we Disobey, or we might Obey..." as some are doing...

also the Kuffar compounding this problem with absurd arguments, like "would you marry a Niqaabi?" as though a Muslimah guarding her Chastity in a better manner is supposed to be a Barrier for the Muslims... :smack:

:alhumdull many brothers and sisters are realizing the Ulterior Seditious Motives of such people and reading the Quran and Sunnah more ... :)

May Allah Subhana Uta'ala expel out of us all forms of Hypocrisy and make us among the True believers who Believe in Allah, His Rasul :saw: his Revelations, the Angels and all that he has stated, and back our Believe up with sound reasoning and Good deeds...

:jkk:

[al faqeer]

How many Mullas do that in the community? And why the heck you are talking about 'hungry' souls, talk about the 'dying bodies' whom these hypocrite Mullas of Pakistan left at the mercy of Pakistani Kuffar. Where did their lectures of Quran and Sunnah go? Where were Tablighi cowards? Where was Salafi da'wah? Where were Deobandis, Barelvis?
If they had their sons and daughters in the Lal Masjid, they wouldn't go for 40 nights, they would march to the Lal Masjid and do any desperate attemps to save their brothers and sisters.

No stop looking to blame others please governements and Mullahs Imams and Mashaayekh .

As yoursleves these Questions , do you help your own people ?

All Muslims are in the same boat , Sufis , salafis , Deobandis , Barelwis all the man made names out there are all part of the daily RAT Race .

But these individual muslims are too Busy being scattered and happily scattering themselves even more .

start with yourselves folks then Judge others .

[Raziel]

The only time the Ummah will be untied is when we all follow the Quran and the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that is the one and only time we will be untied, until that happens, i'm sad to say that there will be many sections, leading to bad things like Muslim killing Muslim.

There are good Muslims, but sadly there are bad ones too

May Allah guide us all!

The same applies to every group of People bro..

but as a whole we Muslims are far better than the Kuffar...

:jkk:

[~Jafrene~]

The same applies to every group of People bro..

but as a whole we Muslims are far better than the Kuffar...

:jkk:

Only Allah can judge that.

[al-ghazalli]

If someone needs the purification of heart, that's our Mullas and Religious Leadership which is a bunch of Coward Hypocrites. They don't consider this Ummah like a body, that if one part of it is afflicted the whole body should feel the pain.

These are harsh words coming from a layman, our deen has taught us to respect those who are blessed with knowlodge, their rank is far greater than ours.

In the last month, in the heart of Pakistan, in the heart of Islamabad, Lal Masjid was bombed by Kuffar Paki Army, but the so called scholars with long beards and big turbans showed their hypocritic face to the world. No one came to help the innocent children, girls and boys who were under seige in the Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa. Hypocrite Mullas of Muttahida Majlis Amal went to London to play politics, because to them 'Western Democracy' is halaal and saving the lives of our purified sisters in Jamia Hafsa who were huffaz and were become 'ulama, was haraam.
Hypocrite, stomach worshipping scholars of Rawalpindi, Islamabad didn't even stage any protests in the streets, though if a single scholar of them is shot down, they make lots of hue and cry in the streets.
All religious madrasahs in Pakistan remained quiet over this bloody massacre. Their coward hypocrite scholars didn't let madrasah students go out to stage protests or do something for their innocent brothers and

What occured in Jamia Hafsa and the Lal Masjid was a very tragic incident. What was even more tragic is the way that it happened. This event could have been avoided, I believe the Moulana who ran the masjid is the mureed of Mufti Taqi Usmani in the Chisiti Tariqah. Mufti Taqi Usmani warned him and others of this action and advised against.

Uprising against the Muslim ruler is forbidden even if he is an oppressor, this is part of our aqeedah.

Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim both narrate in their Sahih;

Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: "If someone notices something he disapproves of in the manners of his Muslim ruler, he should be patient, for whoever turns away from the Muslim community even for a short span of time and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-Islamic era of ignorance (as rebellious sinners)."

The Ulema always agreed with the concept of what the the students wanted to achieve at Jamia Hafsa and Lal Masjid, but their method was incorrect and uprising against the government is forbidden.

May Allah forgive all those who passed away in this incident and grant them Jannatul Fardous.

['Abdullah]

What occured in Jamia Hafsa and the Lal Masjid was a very tragic incident. What was even more tragic is the way that it happened. This event could have been avoided, I believe the Moulana who ran the masjid is the mureed of Mufti Taqi Usmani in the Chisiti Tariqah. Mufti Taqi Usmani warned him and others of this action and advised against.
Since Mufti Taqi Usmani doesn't follow the 'complete deen' he was advising Maulana Abdul Aziz to 'lower his Iman' because in Mufti sahib's religion, Nahi anil munkar is haraam, Mufti sahib will probably die one day the way his peers died in the past, without doing nahi anil munkar, and watching ridicule of the name of Allah with their shameless eyes. Mualana Abdul Aziz and his borther were bigger Mureed of Muhammad s.a.w than of Mufti Taqi sahib. They did what Muhammad s.a.w did. People like Mufti Taqi sahib neither follow the 'whole deen' nor they encourage people to do so, rather they discourage them from doing so.

Uprising against the Muslim ruler is forbidden even if he is an oppressor, this is part of our aqeedah.

Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim both narrate in their Sahih;

Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: "If someone notices something he disapproves of in the manners of his Muslim ruler, he should be patient, for whoever turns away from the Muslim community even for a short span of time and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-Islamic era of ignorance (as rebellious sinners)."

The Ulema always agreed with the concept of what the the students wanted to achieve at Jamia Hafsa and Lal Masjid, but their method was incorrect and uprising against the government is forbidden.

May Allah forgive all those who passed away in this incident and grant them Jannatul Fardous.
I am sure 'uprising is haraam' in the religion of these Mullas even if the ruler abducts their daughters and sells them to a brothel. They will still keep bowing to the 'ruler' and will not worry about the 'poor daughters'.

By the way, you should proclaim that you don't believe in certain hadiths like
if you see the evil, eradicate that by force, or speak against that, or at least consider that bad in your heart (interpretation of the hadith).

In fact, bigger enemies of this Ummah are mullas like Mufti Taqi sahib and the rest of coward hypocrites because they misguide ummah from the right path of Muhammad s.a.w. I remember Mufti Taqi sahib staged his drama in Pakistan that he was running a movement against the 'women protection bill' and in defense of 'hudood laws' in Pakistan, but ....

[~Jafrene~]

does anyone recognise this? : eli eli lema sabatchthani