Getting married online!

[sajid]

salams

*got ur attention there*

joking

okey today i was speaking to somoene who said to me that they got married to someone online

i.e did all the testimony and everything else all online via MSN messneger along with the witneses all virtually and they are basically living like husband and wife...virtually..although the speak on the phoen aswell..but they live too far away....

now this shocked and amazed me since ive know this person for a good 5 years or so now.....

now the thign is does such thing exist? is it permissable?

anyone know anything regarding this

wassalam
sajid

p.s both peopel are muslims

[abdulhakeem]

In my honest opinion it the marriage contract is valid and Allah knoweth best. There is a hadith about this (not about marrying online :P )

Abu Dawood - Book 12, Number 2189:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There are three things which, whether undertaken seriously or in jest, are treated as serious: Marriage, divorce and taking back a wife (after a divorce which is not final)

I know that this hadith is mentioned by others too - but cant find the source at the mo. Marriage has not to be taken lightly - never joke about it nor on matters in religion. Perhaps the following fatwah is also interesting:

Question #2201: Conducting marriage contract by telephone

Question:


I want to get married to a girl but her father is in another country, and at present I cannot travel there for us to be all together, because of financial and other circumstances. I am also in a foreign country. Is it permissible for me to phone her father so that he can say, “I offer you my daughter So and so in marriage,” and I can say, “I accept,” with the consent of the girl and in the presence of two Muslim witnesses who are listening to what he and I say by means of speakers attached to the phone? Would this be considered as a valid marriage contract according to sharee’ah?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

I put this question to our Shaykh al-Mufti al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz, who replied that if what is described is genuine (and there is no cheating involved), then it achieves the purpose of meeting the shar'i conditions of nikaah and the marriage contract is valid. And Allaah knows best.

Shaykh Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (www.islam-qa.com)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=2201&dgn=3

[zahra]

assalamu alaikum
i was under the impression that the nikah must actually be recited.. u can get married over the phone but not by email b/c the nikah must be recited... may allah(Swt) forgive me if i said anything wrong ,,,

[abdulhakeem]

Yup. Generally it has to be recited as mentioned below. However what is to be done if the person is not able to talk or is deaf?

Question #364: Marriage contract: verbal or written?

Question:

Can the marriage contract be a verbal contract or must it be in writing ?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Writing down the contracts and agreements that people make among themselves is a way of confirming and formalizing them, but it is not a condition for the validity of the contract. The marriage contract may be made verbally by means of an offer on the part of the bride’s wali or guardian (e.g. “I marry my daughter to you”) and acceptance on the part of the groom (e.g. “I accept”). Writing it down is not a condition, but it does serve to document and confirm the contract, which is a good thing, especially nowadays. And Allaah is the source of help.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=364&dgn=3

[thekid]

As salaam alai kum

As long as you are sure it is the right person at the other end......though i guess the internet would be preferable to the telephone as you can see and be assured of the other persons identity via webcam.

[UndercoverSista]

never really know wat ur getting urself in for... hmmm.... but wat angle shall i take................

........actually, il just leave it

[Qurratulain]

Salaams
:eek: I have heard of people meeting online and than getting married in real, but get married online is something new. Dont u think all this email,msn stuff is getting a bit too far. How can u be sure the person at the other end is whom he/she says he is, unless u actually meet them in real. Marriage is big thing, so dont get urself into any kinda trouble, and I would never advise anyone to do it online.

[Ebony]

actually getting MARRIED online is :eek:!

getting2 know some1, THEN marrying them in person is different..bt the above is jst2 weird!

But i wish them a happy and prosperous marriage :)

(im going soft in my old age.. :rolleyes: )
Ws

[ze leetle elper]

Originally posted by sajid
salams

*got ur attention there*

joking

okey today i was speaking to somoene who said to me that they got married to someone online

i.e did all the testimony and everything else all online via MSN messneger along with the witneses all virtually and they are basically living like husband and wife...virtually..although the speak on the phoen aswell..but they live too far away....

now this shocked and amazed me since ive know this person for a good 5 years or so now.....

now the thign is does such thing exist? is it permissable?

anyone know anything regarding this

wassalam
sajid

p.s both peopel are muslims

*Wonders* :rolleyes:

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by Qurratulain
Salaams
:eek: I have heard of people meeting online and than getting married in real, but get married online is something new. Dont u think all this email,msn stuff is getting a bit too far. How can u be sure the person at the other end is whom he/she says he is, unless u actually meet them in real. Marriage is big thing, so dont get urself into any kinda trouble, and I would never advise anyone to do it online. qurratulain, me and zawjaturaafi met and married online

so far, so good


:D

[baba]

Dunno about you guys, but I'd like to take a look at the buff ting first before I marry her :D

[ze leetle elper]

Originally posted by baba
Dunno about you guys, but I'd like to take a look at the buff ting first before I marry her :D


:rotfl:

[AbuMubarak]

ok, i am from brooklyn


whats a buff thing?

[baba]

Originally posted by Raafi
whats a buff thing? A highly attractive member of the opposite sex. ;)

[Yamaha]

When you INSTALL a marriage online, a divorce would be called a CRASH! Differences and arguments will be called a VIRUS.

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by baba
A highly attractive member of the opposite sex. ;) duh

i did my homework man, this was a marriage not a mutah:p

[baba]

Originally posted by Raafi
i did my homework man, this was a marriage not a mutah:p Man, I would never even think about mut'ah :p

[Yamaha]

in an online analogy....a nikah would be 'download to computer' and mutah would be 'listen online'...:D

[Ammarah]

Originally posted by baba
Man, I would never even think about mut'ah :p

Alhamdulillah.
I was about to ban you!!

[Qurratulain]

Originally posted by Raafi
qurratulain, me and zawjaturaafi met and married online

so far, so good


:D
Assalamulaikom
wows....., so this actually happens, alhamduillah May Allah always keep it good(ameen)

[baba]

Originally posted by Ammarah
Alhamdulillah.
I was about to ban you!! What do you think I am? Some kind of animal??? :mad:

[Ammarah]

Originally posted by baba
What do you think I am? Some kind of animal??? :mad:
Well obviously not! You're still here aren't you? :p

[baba]

:dogrun:

[Noor]

I thought it was run rabbit run rabbit


where did the dog come from????



:p :confused: :banghead:

M.

[zahra]

my marriage is by mutah... with no sexual relations imagine that..and we met online...

[Yamaha]

Originally posted by zahra
my marriage is by mutah... with no sexual relations imagine that..and we met online...

OOoooooooooooo! :eek:

[Ankaboot]

Originally posted by sajid


i.e did all the testimony and everything else all online via MSN messneger along with the witneses all virtually and they are basically living like husband and wife...virtually..although the speak on the phoen aswell..but they live too far away....


so they r virtually livin together....too far away...so will they eva get together for real??
i thought consummatin the marriage was rather important :confused:

[zahra]

OOoooooooooooo

do u think u could get banned in under 10 posts? how low can u go??lol:rotfl:

[777]

Asalaamu alaikum wr wb,


Sis Zahra, why would you want to marry temporarily and have no relations? Is this a way to get to know him so that you can marry FOR REAL?

Just wonderin :D

[zahra]

yes actually it is... i am an american revert.. with no male guardian or any one who can act as my wali... b/c we have to have a long engagement then we decided to marry by mutah so that we r mahram... and inshallah will not transgress any limits.. the condition was placed by myself and he accepted and inshallah when and if we decide to perform nikah then this condition will be removed...the reason i added that line is that most people assume that mutah is used as a means of prostitution and this is a big misconception .. there r many conditions placed on mutah just like there r many conditions placed on having 4 wives...

[ze leetle elper]

One of Saj's favourite topics...:D

[MalikOne™]

salams

*got ur attention there*

joking

okey today i was speaking to somoene who said to me that they got married to someone online

i.e did all the testimony and everything else all online via MSN messneger along with the witneses all virtually and they are basically living like husband and wife...virtually..although the speak on the phoen aswell..but they live too far away....

now this shocked and amazed me since ive know this person for a good 5 years or so now.....

now the thign is does such thing exist? is it permissable?

anyone know anything regarding this

wassalam
sajid

p.s both peopel are muslims

Now thas jus plain sad and desperate :rubeyes:

[bint]

i wud never resort to that..te thought scares me :nervous:

[Ebony]

The number of people who are desperate to marry, purely for reasons other than companionship and so forth, are quite staggering sadly :rolleyes:

[Al-ghurabah]

strange.. how do the witnesses know who each other are.. ?????... who was conducting the nikkah.. the imam needs to ask both parties questions and they bth needto agree andsign the contract with two witnesses present..
how will all this work out i have no idea..
truly strange world we live in..

[Al-ghurabah]

Is Br Sajid Obsessed With This Topic.. Alot Of The Posts Come From Him...

[janathi]

:salams

:rubeyes: , didn't know this existed! :eek: don't like it either! :p

:wswrwb:

[ur_yusra]

:salams

:rubeyes: , didn't know this existed! :eek: don't like it either! :p

:wswrwb:

Yeh its weird.. :S

Wasnt there a marriage between the prophet (saw) and the daughter of abu sufyan (I think) that took place via long distance??

Does anyone know more about it..

[bint]

:salams

:rubeyes: , didn't know this existed! :eek: don't like it either! :p

:wswrwb:


oh good ye me too.:inlove:

[sajid]

that post was made 3 yrs ago hahaha

[bint]

that post was made 3 yrs ago hahaha


omg thats even worse..uve been obsessed since then?:rubeyes:

[Chained_Water]

I wonder how many threads saj has created in total about marriage and marrying online or in parks :p

[Al-ghurabah]

stop cussing him and start looking for a nice sis for br sajid..
other wise will have to go throuhg another 3 years of him creating these weird marriage threads..

[bint]

stop cussing him and start looking for a nice sis for br sajid..
other wise will have to go throuhg another 3 years of him creating these weird marriage threads..


loool..i think he already has one.:scratch: :outta:

[Ebony]

If you go sneaking around, marry "in secret/on the sly" or whatever other stupid terminology people use, don't seek advice/guidance, and simply wish to wed for gratification of their instincts (wish is often the case for those who display desperate behaviours) and then expect barakah in the marriage really baffles me :rolleyes:

There are reasons why procedures for marriage/seeking a spouse are in place :rolleyes: and making a marriage work isn't as straightforward as it seems. If from the outset you marry for the wrong reasons, don't be shocked when it falls apart. :rolleyes:

[NotOverYet]

salams

*got ur attention there*

joking

okey today i was speaking to somoene who said to me that they got married to someone online

i.e did all the testimony and everything else all online via MSN messneger along with the witneses all virtually and they are basically living like husband and wife...virtually..although the speak on the phoen aswell..but they live too far away....

now this shocked and amazed me since ive know this person for a good 5 years or so now.....

now the thign is does such thing exist? is it permissable?

anyone know anything regarding this

wassalam
sajid

p.s both peopel are muslims
As far as you are so sure that the right person is setting on the other hand, the Shahideen are the right people on the other hands, and the girl's father is on the other hand, and the one who is making your khutaba of Nikah is a right person, then it is done (as far as I got this info by asking around).
but one thing that still confuses me and does not support my mind accepting this, and that is in the time of the Nikah, the Shahidain should see the girl itself, and the Imaam who is , making the Khotaba of Nikah must be where the girl is present to see her. then how come? Wallah o 'Alam

[Al Qadr]

Advice for ppl marrying online :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgRFVDc7z48&mode=related&search=

[Irfan GBH]

Advice for ppl marrying online :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgRFVDc7z48&mode=related&search=


LOL! Aye definatly meet person before proposing to them and check how old they are! :D

[Al Qadr]

Oh, theres another vid, on my siganture... same guy :p n marriage topic