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Kal-El
17-07-07, 01:08 PM
Our Nabi (saw) described marriage as half of the deen, but did he mean the consumation of marriage or the correct practice of marriage?

The reason I ask for confirmation is that some describe marriage almost as a life objective, and those who are in unhappy or bad marriages - which are often derogative to their emotional health - persist with it believing that they must try until every single fibre in their body cannot take it anymore.

But how can marriages like that be equated to fulfilling half of the deen when the emphasis of marriage in Islam is how the couple should have a beautiful relationship of love and understanding?

Ok so people marry to shield themselves from fornification and sin, and/or because they want to start their own family - that is their personal motivation, but when such marriages break down - is it ethically right for them to justify that 'marriage' by saying "it's half of the deen..I have to continue"?

THE PATH 2
17-07-07, 01:39 PM
if youre
on the deen:up:

Kal-El
17-07-07, 02:03 PM
I dont understand what you mean?

THE PATH 2
17-07-07, 02:07 PM
IF YOU live according to the deen

then marriage will enhance youre life and aakhirah

if not.. marriage will be burden and means of trouble and strife

Kal-El
17-07-07, 02:16 PM
Even practicing the deen 110% will not guarantee you a happy marriage though. What makes a happy marriage is the two people; the deen only fortifies and regulates it.

THE PATH 2
17-07-07, 02:22 PM
A BAD MARRIAGE with deen is still a success as allah is pleased by your deeds

a good marriage without deen is displeasing to allah

ULTIMATELY ..a good or bad life ...requires that in all conditions we obey allah

Kal-El
17-07-07, 02:24 PM
A BAD MARRIAGE with deen is still a success as allah is pleased by your deeds

a good marriage without deen is displeasing to allah

ULTIMATELY ..a good or bad life ...requires that in all conditions we obey allah

But what does a bad marriage offer other than harm? Look at some of the bad marriages described here - people are broken as they describe it, confused and frustrated - what can justify that?

THE PATH 2
17-07-07, 02:26 PM
great awliyah had bad marriages

they realized the wife was a test from allah

test of patience

ill post some stories later


one awliyah said..id divorce her..but then shell make another mans life a misery..

that was his character being tested...:up:

Kal-El
17-07-07, 02:30 PM
great awliyah had bad marriages

they realized the wife was a test from allah

test of patience

ill post some stories later


one awliyah said..id divorce her..but then shell make another mans life a misery..

that was his character being tested...:up:

So what your saying is that, no matter what burdens you go through in marriage - if you tolerate them you will be rewarded?

Doesn't this encourage people to persist in staying in abusive and broken marriages?

THE PATH 2
17-07-07, 02:34 PM
it is a difficult decision..but divorce is sometimes easier than MAKING IT WORK

making it work ..is a great challenge

of all halal things ..divorce is the closest to sin..but allowed of course when one is left no way out

but there are ways and means to save marriages..trial separations..mediators etc

but who has the qualities of mediating and giving good advice

most peoples and families issues take precedence

over the happiness of the couple

izzat and power struggles dominate:rolleyes:

muslim_sis
17-07-07, 02:58 PM
Well, before two marry, they are encouraged to look at each other , why, because they will be living their lives together inshallah, this will be his/her best friend who they should find attractive. As the hadeeth states to look for DEEN, beauty, wealth and lineage. SubhanAllah hadeeth and Quran have such intense meanings, we just read and say it sometimes without the full understanding and meaning! In the hadeeth where it states the four things to look for, it is no doubt that DEEN is the most important factor (as supported by other hadeeth)!

If one lives without the deen, they are not living the peaceful tranquil way the prophet advised us to live with our spouses. Without the deen, we have have an argument and it means something different. With the deen, we are taught to be humble, and to follow the prophet's advise, example to keep silent (and that is really who a man is , not the one who displays with his strength!). There we see a signinficant difference, with the deen we know our aim is jannah for the hereafter which inshallah as a muslim couple should both be striving for. And having your spouse also with his/her deen, you can both remind one another, work together ! The prophet (Saw) said the best thing to have in this life is a pious wife!

Had you had a wife who didnt feel the importance of their deen, its a different thing.

Islam is a complete way of life. The prophet's advise is the best advise we can get on following islam correctly to be righteous inshallah ! Muslims who live in their marriages not following islam, i.e. husband beating his wife or a wife taking her husbands secrets to others, then they have rejected the advise of the prophet (saw) because , first of all they arent reminding one another to help one another reach their goal inshallah (to achieve jannah). Where's the fear of Allah that they will be judged! Slight bit of ignorance there.

There will always be problems in a marriage. So to live on thinking that you are never gonna have an argument with your wife or disagreement or whatever, is a false dream. Even the sahabah had these problems, but the beauty over it is that its the way its dealt with ! Fear of Allah is part of the deen, without that a man or woman wont have the respect and best way to treat each other as couple correctly.

Wallahu Alam.