Not attracted to your own kind?

[afrasayab]

Well, as the title says, I have figured that I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture). I am from Pakistan living in Canada and since I am old enough and have a stable job there is mounting pressure from the family to get married soon. I hear that annoying question very often that 'when are you getting married'. My sisters and dad has also tried to hook me up (showed pics) with desi girls and I have also met couple of them in person but I just don't seem to feel it. I don't get attracted to desi girls physicaly and personality wise (many times it is one or the other but mostly I don't feel the physical attraction). I hope no one gets offended but this is a serious problem for me, because there aren't alot of options if you want to marry outside of your race/culture but within the religion here. My family doesn't know too many ppl outside of the community and personally I am not aggressive in terms of approaching girls in general (and I am talking about with good intensions).

So, just wondering if I am alone in this boat or anyone of you have gone through similar situation. Any suggestions or ideas? This is a serious questions so please only serious answers. Salaam

[Chained_Water]

It's perfectly sensible to not want to marry a Pakistani :D

Good luck though, 'cuz you will need it.

:wswrwb:

[Debater]

Well to me, if it was allowed, and if I was interested, I would marry one girl/woman from each race and tribe on earth, but that's not a practical approach, and also you don't need to know what I think so don't worry.

You think so is your life, think or wish what you like, personally, I don't agree with you on this inclination towards Non Desis. I think if I don't like Desi girls means I don't like my own race or in other words I don't like my ownself, and I don't have a self respect, or I have a complex of inferiority and blah blah blah.

There's something which is called brain and the mentality of a person has nothing to do with his skin colour or race, the brains of all the races are in the same shape and colour, no?
But if you really like white (caucasian) girls then that's your choice, many desis who go to the West do want white girls, that's nothing new, this maybe because when they go to a new world, they get more attracted towards that, natural is that...

And yeah, if I had to marry, I would marry even a dark black African girl or an illiterate paindoo/dehati (villager) girl from Pakistan if she was more decent, more sincere, loving and nice to me than any other girls in the world. Well, this world is a place of wonders, you can't define anything.

[.: Rashid :.]

You need to talk to your family and make sure they are...erm, aware of your problem. I can imagine that'd be awkward to explain though :p Depending on your family...

See if you can get your friends to hook you up. Canada is quite a multicultural country so you probably have Muslims friends from outside the subcontinent e.g. Middle Eastern or African. See if they know anyone who's looking...

You could even try using the internet (hint: avoid shaadi.com :p) Muslim matrimonial sites will probably be dominated by Asians but if they're specifically Muslim and not Asian then they'll (or should) have non-Asian people on there also.

BTW, not that I wanna question your reasons or anything but...how can you not find Asian girls attractive :scratch: Maybe you're just being introduced to ugly girls? :o

In the end, if things aren't looking good (unintended pun :o) you just have to remember, looks aren't everything (although yeah they've very very important :o)

-Rashid

[Debater]

It's perfectly sensible to not want to marry a Pakistani :D

Good luck though, 'cuz you will need it.

:wswrwb:
Are you suggesting that the Non Desis shouldn't marry him because he's a Pakistani?

[Debater]

BTW, not that I wanna question your reasons or anything but...how can you not find Asian girls attractive :scratch: Maybe you're just being introduced to ugly girls?
Well, I know why; asian girls talk too much, they cook spicy foods, some of them chew chillies before their hubbies come home...

[*hayat*]

Well, as the title says, I have figured that I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture). I am from Pakistan living in Canada and since I am old enough and have a stable job there is mounting pressure from the family to get married soon. I hear that annoying question very often that 'when are you getting married'. My sisters and dad has also tried to hook me up (showed pics) with desi girls and I have also met couple of them in person but I just don't seem to feel it. I don't get attracted to desi girls physicaly and personality wise (many times it is one or the other but mostly I don't feel the physical attraction). I hope no one gets offended but this is a serious problem for me, because there aren't alot of options if you want to marry outside of your race/culture but within the religion here. My family doesn't know too many ppl outside of the community and personally I am not aggressive in terms of approaching girls in general (and I am talking about with good intensions).

So, just wondering if I am alone in this boat or anyone of you have gone through similar situation. Any suggestions or ideas? This is a serious questions so please only serious answers. Salaam


i knew somone who felt exactly the same as you and was feeling just like you, he could not like paskistani girls as he grew up in uk but life always brings unexpected turns and he ended up falling in love with a pakitani girl who he could not even imagine! i think you might find someone somewhere too...

if really you cant find someone then tell your family " i want to marry a gori (white girl) and convert her to islam to increase muslim ummah" try that inshallah it will work especially if your mum is soft hearted she will be dead impressed by your intension:up: .lol

[.: Rashid :.]

Well, I know why; asian girls talk too much, they cook spicy foods, some of them chew chillies before their hubbies come home...

Erm, you can't say "Asian girls talk too much" becuase its about the individual, you can't make generalisations. Some people are quiet, some loud and talkative. You get different types of people within every race and culture, its not like all Bungis are this, all pakis that, all Arabs that...

And whats wrong with spicy food :confused: Pakis don't know what spicy food is...if they think their food is hot :rolleyes: :D You need to try some bungi tarkhari brother :D

-Rashid

[Debater]

if really you cant find someone then tell your family " i want to marry a gori (white girl) and convert her to islam to increase muslim ummah"...
But make sure bachay should be goray too like bhabi...

[*hayat*]

:( Well, I know why; asian girls talk too much, they cook spicy foods, some of them chew chillies before their hubbies come home...

loooooooool
but stillll thats not nice!!!....:( :rubeyes: not all of them....but truth is asian boys have poor hair styles which they try and copy from bollywood and say "cool " in respond to everyhting which kinda gets boring...(btw i am talkign about freshie ones mainly)

[peace2u]

Maybe you just haven't found the one for you. Be patient and put your trust in Allah (swt). He knows what is best for you, if you are not attracted to the girls your family is choosing for you, maybe you need to sit down with them and tell them what you are looking for in a wife.


Peace

[*hayat*]

But make sure bachay should be goray too like bhabi...

he cant make sure..its in Allah's hands remember...oh yeah maybe if he paints them then that might do..or put atah on their faces everytime the gori tries to make rotee but fails and gets the atah all over the place..

[Debater]

Erm, you can't say "Asian girls talk too much" becuase its about the individual, you can't make generalisations. Some people are quiet, some loud and talkative. You get different types of people within every race and culture, its not like all Bungis are this, all pakis that, all Arabs that...

And whats wrong with spicy food :confused: Pakis don't know what spicy food is...if they think their food is hot :rolleyes: :D You need to try some bungi tarkhari brother :D

-Rashid
Well, asian girls wear lots of make up, and when they have pimples on their skin they complain to their hubbies and the poor hubbies take them to skin specialists, that's a burden on poor guys. Plus asian girls are very heavy, that takes lots of space and oxygen if you're in the car...

[Debater]

he cant make sure..its in Allah's hands remember...oh yeah maybe if he paints them then that might do..or put atah on their faces everytime the gori tries to make rotee but fails and gets the atah all over the place..
Goris can't make rotis, they're not born to make rotis, mind it.

[*hayat*]

Easier said than done!! :up:

yeah the whole point was only saying just for now so the family calms down...but later on he can choose what he wants but for now he needs the family to calm down..

[Debater]

Maybe you just haven't found the one for you. Be patient and put your trust in Allah (swt). He knows what is best for you, if you are not attracted to the girls your family is choosing for you, maybe you need to sit down with them and tell them what you are looking for in a wife.


Peace
He's a vachara (bechara), he hasn't yet met maasi museebtay aka Miss Asia.

[*hayat*]

Goris can't make rotis, they're not born to make rotis, mind it.

correct so then it ends back to the point..he needs to wait inshallah to find his own type..inshallah:D

[*hayat*]

Well, asian girls wear lots of make up, and when they have pimples on their skin they complain to their hubbies and the poor hubbies take them to skin specialists, that's a burden on poor guys. Plus asian girls are very heavy, that takes lots of space and oxygen if you're in the car...

again its not all..its SOME of them....and also the married ones are not girls anymore anyway..they are women,

your posts are very asiantist you know...:( i bet your asian too...and anti goris too..sad..

[AbuMusaab]

This thread started off seriously, I am sure, but has ended hilariously.

[afrasayab]

You need to talk to your family and make sure they are...erm, aware of your problem. I can imagine that'd be awkward to explain though :p Depending on your family...

See if you can get your friends to hook you up. Canada is quite a multicultural country so you probably have Muslims friends from outside the subcontinent e.g. Middle Eastern or African. See if they know anyone who's looking...

You could even try using the internet (hint: avoid shaadi.com :p) Muslim matrimonial sites will probably be dominated by Asians but if they're specifically Muslim and not Asian then they'll (or should) have non-Asian people on there also.

BTW, not that I wanna question your reasons or anything but...how can you not find Asian girls attractive :scratch: Maybe you're just being introduced to ugly girls? :o

In the end, if things aren't looking good (unintended pun :o) you just have to remember, looks aren't everything (although yeah they've very very important :o)

-Rashid

Rashid, thank you for your post it is much more useful and appropriate then the post above it. The poster above basically accused me being racist by indicating that I want to marry a 'white girl' and that I woudn't marry a black girl. No where in my first post I have indicated that. I am not going to waste my time replaying to that.

Now, back to your question, why I don't find them attractive? Maybe I should elaborate on this, the thing is I have come accross attractive desi girls but then I don't find them attractive personality wise. I and most of my desi guy friends tend to agree that alot of desi girls, the attractive ones, have attitude. Atleast this is true from our expereinces. Personally, and maybe it is just my bad luck, I always find that one or the other is missing. I have come accross attractive ones, but no personality (don't know/care about the religion, materialistic, too arrogent, slutty, narrow minded, or just don't have the mental capacity to carry a proper intellectual conversation). I have come accross girls with good personality too but the physical attraction is not there. I am talking to a desi girl right now, very nice and practicing girl but I just don't have physical attraction towards her. I know that she is really interested in me but what can I do... Moslty for me it is the physical attraction that is not there.

Maybe you are right that I have been introduced to only the not so attractive ones. Don't want to call anyone ugly coz everyone is Allah's creation.

Quite frankly I don't want to settle for someone I am not really into, don't want to have regrets later on and destroy someones life.

[Phoenix CG]

my own kind...male? nah not attracted to males :rotfl:

[Debater]

Brother, i think you should refrain from using that term. Some may find it offensive. There are many reverted sisters here and i'm sure if you were one of them you wouldnt be too pleased!.. Forget that.. it doesnt exactly give a good impression to the non-muslims either. To you it might just be a description of their skin-colour but to them its 'racism'. So chill'aaat. :)
ummmmm....can I call them Pyari instead of Gori?

[Debater]

This thread started off seriously, I am sure, but has ended hilariously.
Why don't you start a hillarious thread, I'll try to give that a sad end?

[afrasayab]

I think now i remember why I don't post alot on this forum. It is because ppl can't stay on the topic and post some useful things. Always jokes, rediculing others, offensive terms and personal attacks.

[peace2u]

Rashid, thank you for your post it is much more useful and appropriate then the post above it. The poster above basically accused me being racist by indicating that I want to marry a 'white girl' and that I woudn't marry a black girl. No where in my first post I have indicated that. I am not going to waste my time replaying to that.

Now, back to your question, why I don't find them attractive? Maybe I should elaborate on this, the thing is I have come accross attractive desi girls but then I don't find them attractive personality wise. I and most of my desi guy friends tend to agree that alot of desi girls, the attractive ones, have attitude. Atleast this is true from our expereinces. Personally, and maybe it is just my bad luck, I always find that one or the other is missing. I have come accross attractive ones, but no personality (don't know/care about the religion, materialistic, too arrogent, slutty, narrow minded, or just don't have the mental capacity to carry a proper intellectual conversation). I have come accross girls with good personality too but the physical attraction is not there. I am talking to a desi girl right now, very nice and practicing girl but I just don't have physical attraction towards her. I know that she is really interested in me but what can I do... Moslty for me it is the physical attraction that is not there.

Maybe you are right that I have been introduced to only the not so attractive ones. Don't want to call anyone ugly coz everyone is Allah's creation.

Quite frankly I don't want to settle for someone I am not really into, don't want to have regrets later on and destroy someones life.

Do you think you will find the whole package outside your race?? Personally, I think if you can find a girl who is attractive and religious outside your race then you can definately find one within your race. Again brother, it may be that you are looking for something that is bad for you and Allah (swt) is trying to protect you from it. I realize a certain amount of attraction should be there but don't focus only on looks. Looks do not stay for long or will you leave her once her beauty fades away?? You should concentrate on what is truly important and what will last forever, iman.


Peace

[Debater]

I think now i remember why I don't post alot on this forum. It is because ppl can't stay on the topic and post some useful things. Always jokes, rediculing others, offensive terms and personal attacks.
baap ray, maula kasam, I was only joking, but forgive me bro, sorry please.

[afrasayab]

Do you think you will find the whole package outside your race?? Personally, I think if you can find a girl who is attractive and religious outside your race then you can definately find one within your race. Again brother, it may be that you are looking for something that is bad for you and Allah (swt) is trying to protect you from it. I realize a certain amount of attraction should be there but don't focus only on looks. Looks do not stay for long or will you leave her once her beauty fades away?? You should concentrate on what is truly important and what will last forever, iman.


Peace
Yes, there might be someone from my own race with all/most qualities (quantaties ;) ) that I am looking for but has yet not found. I am open minded and give everyone a chance. And to answer your question I did find someone outside of my race with all the qualities I wanted, but it didn't 'workout' due to typical desi family issues. She did convert to Islam with my help but my family still had issues with her race/culture. Now my family admits its mistakes.

[afrasayab]

Seems like some ppl find it offensive and/or uncomfortable that I am not attracted to "asian girls". First, I never said asian, I only said desi, second, there are alot more ppl around who only want to marry their own race/culture. Isn't that narrow mindedness, racist perhaps. So how was Islam spread again?

[.: Rashid :.]

Rashid, thank you for your post it is much more useful and appropriate then the post above it. The poster above basically accused me being racist by indicating that I want to marry a 'white girl' and that I woudn't marry a black girl. No where in my first post I have indicated that. I am not going to waste my time replaying to that.

Now, back to your question, why I don't find them attractive? Maybe I should elaborate on this, the thing is I have come accross attractive desi girls but then I don't find them attractive personality wise. I and most of my desi guy friends tend to agree that alot of desi girls, the attractive ones, have attitude. Atleast this is true from our expereinces. Personally, and maybe it is just my bad luck, I always find that one or the other is missing. I have come accross attractive ones, but no personality (don't know/care about the religion, materialistic, too arrogent, slutty, narrow minded, or just don't have the mental capacity to carry a proper intellectual conversation). I have come accross girls with good personality too but the physical attraction is not there. I am talking to a desi girl right now, very nice and practicing girl but I just don't have physical attraction towards her. I know that she is really interested in me but what can I do... Moslty for me it is the physical attraction that is not there.

Maybe you are right that I have been introduced to only the not so attractive ones. Don't want to call anyone ugly coz everyone is Allah's creation.

Quite frankly I don't want to settle for someone I am not really into, don't want to have regrets later on and destroy someones life.

I don't think the brother meant offence...

Anyway, I think what you're describing is typical of the "searching" process, from what I gather from this forum. I don't think its to do with race as such, although I guess if you open up to other races there's more possible candidates and therefore more chance of finding what you're looking for...

But personally, I think if you have found Asians you find attractive, even if their personalities didn't work, then its not a case of not finding them attractive, but just not finding the right person. Thats normal (apparently) so you should just stick in there insha'Allah and keep trying :up:

Oh, and sorry yeah a lot of the posts do seem to have gone off topic now...dunno if I should delete them, they are kinda funny :o

-Rashid

[Khadija222333]

Well, I know why; asian girls talk too much, they cook spicy foods, some of them chew chillies before their hubbies come home...

:mad: :mad: :mad: What's wrong with spicy food?! My mother does NOT chew chillies be4 my father comes home! And what's wrong with talking?

Well, asian girls wear lots of make up, and when they have pimples on their skin they complain to their hubbies and the poor hubbies take them to skin specialists, that's a burden on poor guys. Plus asian girls are very heavy, that takes lots of space and oxygen if you're in the car...

I don't wear any make-up and neither do my sisters or mother! And neither of us have pimples, Alhamdulillah. And how do u know that Asian girls are heavy and that they take up alot of space?!:mad:

[Debater]

^ asian girls argue a lot, say something which they don't like and then its like winding a talking toy up...

[Kal-El]

Me too, never have been attracted to my "own kind"

[Khadija222333]

^ asian girls argue a lot, say something which they don't like and then its like winding a talking toy up...

U wudn't like it either if I was making fun of ur background!

[Loobna]

I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture).

generally neither am I :D
but some ppl find it hard to believe I am my own kind - if you get what I mean lol

[Lambo5688]

generally neither am I :D
but some ppl find it hard to believe I am my own kind - if you get what I mean lol

You look like a male? :scratch:

[Kal-El]

To Rashid

I can't rep back for another 24 hours its seems. In reply to your rep, it's true bro. So so true. And the rumour you heard, it's a fake. I'm going Oriental :D

[Loobna]

You look like a male? :scratch:

erm no, I dont ...esp as I'm dressed in pink lol

the original post said they were not attracted to their own kind - meaning their own culture - desi/pakistani
I was saying that I too am generally not attracted to my own kind - again meaning culture/ethnic origin...and I also said some ppl find it hard to believe I am of the ethnic origin I am lol

dunno where u got ur idea...:0:

[Lambo5688]

erm no, I dont ...esp as I'm dressed in pink lol

the original post said they were not attracted to their own kind - meaning their own culture - desi/pakistani
I was saying that I too am generally not attracted to my own kind - again meaning culture/ethnic origin...and I also said some ppl find it hard to believe I am of the ethnic origin I am lol

dunno where u got ur idea...:0:

lol I know what you meant.....:outta:

[Loobna]

lol I know what you meant.....:outta:

u say that now lol

[Kal-El]

On a lighter note..

I think I'm pregnant (and yes I'm male)

[Sulaiman Harun]

It's perfectly sensible to not want to marry a Pakistani :D

Good luck though, 'cuz you will need it.

:wswrwb:

:start:

:salams

I never get offended if someone curses Pakistan and say anything bad to it and if someone insults, makes fun of me I don't care. But this time I have really felt offended by this statement of yours and if someone says anything bad to Pakistani cricket or hockey team, I just hate it!

[umm_yusuf]

Asalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,

Well, I know why; asian girls talk too much, they cook spicy foods, some of them chew chillies before their hubbies come home...Well, asian girls wear lots of make up, and when they have pimples on their skin they complain to their hubbies and the poor hubbies take them to skin specialists, that's a burden on poor guys. Plus asian girls are very heavy, that takes lots of space and oxygen if you're in the car...

I think your posts are rude and unecessary. I also don't think they are funny. If you are a muslim then you should know better than this and if you are not then please be aware that this is a muslim forum and we do not appreciate such conduct.

I think now i remember why I don't post alot on this forum. It is because ppl can't stay on the topic and post some useful things. Always jokes, rediculing others, offensive terms and personal attacks.

I totally agree. Muslim don't seem to take anything serious these days. Subhanallah everthing is a joke or turns to a joke. No wonder the ummah is in the state its in.

Seems like some ppl find it offensive and/or uncomfortable that I am not attracted to "asian girls". First, I never said asian, I only said desi, second, there are alot more ppl around who only want to marry their own race/culture. Isn't that narrow mindedness, racist perhaps. So how was Islam spread again?

I noticed this as well. Subhanallah its quite sad simply because I don't think we are aware of our inate racism. May Allah guide us and purify us.

Going back to the topic, I agree with you. I have been telling my mum for the past few years that I REFUSE to marry someone from my country. I think you should sit your parents down and discuss it with them. Tell them what your preferences are and remind them that you are the one who will have to live with the person you will marry Insha Allah.

May Allah make it easy for you.

[afrasayab]

Asalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,



I think your posts are rude and unecessary. I also don't think they are funny. If you are a muslim then you should know better than this and if you are not then please be aware that this is a muslim forum and we do not appreciate such conduct.



I totally agree. Muslim don't seem to take anything serious these days. Subhanallah everthing is a joke or turns to a joke. No wonder the ummah is in the state its in.



I noticed this as well. Subhanallah its quite sad simply because I don't think we are aware of our inate racism. May Allah guide us and purify us.

Going back to the topic, I agree with you. I have been telling my mum for the past few years that I REFUSE to marry someone from my country. I think you should sit your parents down and discuss it with them. Tell them what your preferences are and remind them that you are the one who will have to live with the person you will marry Insha Allah.

May Allah make it easy for you.

Thank you for your good advise and prayer. There are alot of things particularly about my culture that I do not like,particularly the things that go against Islam. Most of it is derived from hinduism, and have very stupid ilogical customs and traditions. I know that some of this stuff alos exists in other culture but seems like ppl in my culture take it to the extreme.

I beleive as muslims, no matter where we are from, our culture should be Islam, and that is most important thing and a solution to alot of our problems. I think marraiges into other culture/races should be encouraged, because this was one of the reasons that Islam was spread so quickly.

My family finally realizes that I prefer to marry someone other then a desi, but I don't think they can do much, as I explained before there arent alot of contacts they have outside the desi community.

I always ask God to forgive me because I am very picky, but what can I do, if my heard is not there it is not there.

[mara]

I understand you perfectly and you are not at all racist. You are only searching for your half :)and looking someone which can be compatible with you.:)
You are not the only one i can ensure you, but you are the one which made a thread for that:D

[Cashew]

I don't know.

You Muslims tend to be so terribly small-minded, although your Prophet (pbuh) specifically and absolutely prohibited you to be small-minded.

Your "own kind" is Muslim.

You have a world of pious, intelligent, charming, and beautiful women to choose from.

For some reason in this forum, no one ever talks about Indonesians, for example, although they're the largest Muslim nation on earth.

The Somali women I see in my neighborhood are very beautiful (I'm not Muslim, so I don't have to lower my gaze!) and they seem to be incredibly cheerful and intelligent.

The Arab Muslim women I've met have also been beautiful and intelligent.

What more can a guy want?

And if the revert/convert sisters in UmmaForum are an accurate representation of revert/convert women, well, I have no idea what they look like, but they're certainly very, very smart and can more than hold their own in any intellectual conversation.

[Lambo5688]

u say that now lol

...no really...I did...I was just messing.

My sisters get confused for other ethnic groups all the time...

[Kubs]

Yes, there might be someone from my own race with all/most qualities (quantaties ;) ) that I am looking for but has yet not found. I am open minded and give everyone a chance. And to answer your question I did find someone outside of my race with all the qualities I wanted, but it didn't 'workout' due to typical desi family issues. She did convert to Islam with my help but my family still had issues with her race/culture. Now my family admits its mistakes.

Are you not attracted to 'only' Pakistani girls...or does it also include Bangladeshi and Indian. I personally cannot tell the difference between all three.

Speak to your parents and tell them how you feel. Tell them what your preferences are, what kind of girl you are interested in, her personality. If they don't know anyone from the community, then ask your friends....

Hopefully it will work out for you Inshallah :)

[umm_yusuf]

Thank you for your good advise and prayer. There are alot of things particularly about my culture that I do not like,particularly the things that go against Islam. Most of it is derived from hinduism, and have very stupid ilogical customs and traditions. I know that some of this stuff alos exists in other culture but seems like ppl in my culture take it to the extreme.

You are welcome. I agree with you that these problems will be found in all Muslim cultures If I tell you about the unislamic things that happen in my culture you will be shocked even though most of us are muslims.

I beleive as muslims, no matter where we are from, our culture should be Islam, and that is most important thing and a solution to alot of our problems. I think marraiges into other culture/races should be encouraged, because this was one of the reasons that Islam was spread so quickly.

Apart from the obvious benefits in marrying other than your own such as being more open minded and experiencing the beauty in other cultures, I think that it can help eradicate the illogical sillyness found in our cultures. For instance if I marry a man from another country or race and I started propagating something that was from my culture and he did the same, none of us can claim superiority to the issue unless it is in line with Qur'an and sunnah. This means that most if not all the issues of culture will be left behind. Plus if you have children, then it is easier to raise them purely upon Qur'an and sunnah because whose culture will take precedence otherwise? And Insha Allah, the children will be too mixed up to have any sort of culturalism and nationalism so Alhamdulillah.
My family finally realizes that I prefer to marry someone other then a desi, but I don't think they can do much, as I explained before there arent alot of contacts they have outside the desi community.

I always ask God to forgive me because I am very picky, but what can I do, if my heard is not there it is not there.

May Allah bless you in your quest and Allhamdulillah your parents are ok with your decision.

[Tosh]

Along with all of your good comments... There is nothing in Islam which says it is wrong to marry from your own culture. Before ships, aeroplanes, the internet, phones etc...you couldn't actually go that far for marriage anyways. But mixed culture marriage equally shouldn't be ruled out.

Marriage within the same culture is often easier. The difference is that we are indian/pakistani/bengali living in a culture which isn't of our own origin, but is now our own culture. You wouldn't expect someone living in Pakistan to venture out to Brazil to look for marriage. It's only properly feasible and also encourage-able because we now live in a mixed society where people of different origins share a culture.

Maybe you can't separate their values from their looks, so you find it difficult to find them attractive. But there could be others like yourself right? Who are also Pakistani, maybe living in Canada, but share the Islamic values that you have. The advantage would be that it does make lots of things easier especially if your parents are first generation and also need to get on with her.

In terms of choosing in a Halal way, here is some advice, sorry if you find it rubbish:
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131765

Key questions
1. Which cultures do you find attractive?
2. Are you satisfied with their Islamic values generally?
3. How do you know this? Who is it? Ask them! hehe

I would say keep going for what you are looking for, try to make it clear to yourself and perhaps your family what it is that you are looking for rather than what you are not looking for because there are so many types of people in the world. (General Comment:) Rather than just pleasing parents/relatives in the case of marriage, just try not to make them angry by making it an argument.

If feelings aren't acquired by Haram means, then they are guidance from Allah anyway. Therefore, if Allah is on your side there is nothing to worry about. Maybe Allah is guiding you to something which is better for you, maybe it is better for your family, maybe for your community, maybe for the world. Who knows?

Allahualim. Allah knows best.

May Allah help you, and us all, in finding spouses who will be the coolness to our eyes.

[Muslimah2468]

Asalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,



I think your posts are rude and unecessary. I also don't think they are funny. If you are a muslim then you should know better than this and if you are not then please be aware that this is a muslim forum and we do not appreciate such conduct.




Well said sis. I totally agree.

[peace2u]

Seems like some ppl find it offensive and/or uncomfortable that I am not attracted to "asian girls". First, I never said asian, I only said desi, second, there are alot more ppl around who only want to marry their own race/culture. Isn't that narrow mindedness, racist perhaps. So how was Islam spread again?

I am not offended, I just think that deen should be the most important quality looked for in a person whether she/he is from your country or not. It only looks bad when a person claims they will only marry from a certain race or will not marry from a certain race. Islam was not spread through marrying non-arab men or women, yes many did marry outside their race but many didn't. Islam is spread through our actions and our own adherence to the deen (and of course by the divine will of Allah (swt). I commend you that you are not willing to let culture decide who you will marry and that you are trying to look beyond the culture divide. Masha Allah, may Allah (swt) bless you for your effort and bless you with a good wife who will please you and your family.

Peace

[Debater]

^ Well said sis. I totally agree.

[Katmandu]

Well to me, if it was allowed, and if I was interested, I would marry one girl/woman from each race and tribe on earth, but that's not a practical approach, and also you don't need to know what I think so don't worry.

Now that's what I call a man with a healthy appetite! :D

[Maureen]

Race and culture do not matter, but I would try to get attracted to someone of my own religion.

[Supernova Nebula]

i have the same problem:o

[Kal-El]

Everyone should mix. The marriage version of musical chairs. :D

[Supernova Nebula]

Everyone should mix. The marriage version of musical chairs. :D


and produce more wentworth miller:D

[Songbird]

In the end, if things aren't looking good (unintended pun :o) you just have to remember, looks aren't everything (although yeah they've very very important :o)
Mr Fence sitter is our little Rashid.

"Looks aren't everything but uh yeah, they're very, VERY important."

I can never figure out which I'm so attracted to this species :D

[Songbird]

and produce more wentworth miller:D
I must be the only Muslimah who doesn't find this guy drop-dead-gorgeous :rolleyes:

[Kal-El]

Since when did Muslimah's talk about how drop-dead gorgeous a guy is? :scratch:

[Supernova Nebula]

I must be the only Muslimah who doesn't find this guy drop-dead-gorgeous :rolleyes:

he's not a typical actor, good personality and smart too, princeton graduate.

[Songbird]

Goris can't make rotis, they're not born to make rotis, mind it.
I don't think you need to worry about we white Muslimahs [ :rolleyes: ] ever having to cook for you.

[Amellia]

Wentworth miller is part African-American, Jamaican, English, German, French, Dutch, Syrian, and Lebanese.

[.: Anna :.]

Wentworth miller is part African-American, Jamaican, English, German, French, Dutch, Syrian, and Lebanese.

whoa really didnt realise he has so much mix!! :rubeyes::up:

[Songbird]

he's not a typical actor, good personality and smart too, princeton graduate.
I can say the same for James Blake the tennis player :inlove:, but for all our fantasies, if they ain't gonna submit, we can only dream hun.

[Songbird]

Since when did Muslimah's talk about how drop-dead gorgeous a guy is? :scratch:

Err, he's still a creation of Allah swt.

And Allah loves beauty and so do many of his creation.

Ain't nothin' wrong in acknowledging someone's God-given good looks bro.

It's another thing though if Supernova Nebula starts following him around :D

[Amellia]

whoa really didnt realise he has so much mix!! :rubeyes::up:

Masha'Allah Facinating isn't it...:up:..

[peace2u]

I don't know.

You Muslims tend to be so terribly small-minded, although your Prophet (pbuh) specifically and absolutely prohibited you to be small-minded.

Your "own kind" is Muslim.

You have a world of pious, intelligent, charming, and beautiful women to choose from.

For some reason in this forum, no one ever talks about Indonesians, for example, although they're the largest Muslim nation on earth.

The Somali women I see in my neighborhood are very beautiful (I'm not Muslim, so I don't have to lower my gaze!) and they seem to be incredibly cheerful and intelligent.

The Arab Muslim women I've met have also been beautiful and intelligent.

What more can a guy want?

And if the revert/convert sisters in UmmaForum are an accurate representation of revert/convert women, well, I have no idea what they look like, but they're certainly very, very smart and can more than hold their own in any intellectual conversation.

Muslim or not cashew.....lower that gaze of yours:torture:

Peace

[Supernova Nebula]

Muslim or not cashew.....lower that gaze of yours:torture:

Peace

Cashew is also in cali u can torture him offline too:rofl1:

[afrasayab]

Some good post, some jokes, overall so far so good. I thought I would be crucified by now by some ppl.

I am not limiting myself to any race or culture. As some of you have grasped this correctly I try to look beyond the race/culture divide. If I am not attracted to most desi girls it doesn't mean that I am attracted to all white women, arabic women or persians. I have seen many that I am not interested in, one or the other way. But moslty it is my own culture/race that I have been disappointed with. I guess mostly it is the cultural attitude that turns me off, but physical attraction is very important, and I don't find that alot in my own culture.

Maybe most of you are more religious and stronger then me, but I never had the mentality that have all the fun that you can, screw around and when you are tired of partying go back home and find a nice innocent desi girl. It has been tough though, I am somewhat attractive, so I do get looks and smiles from girls from almost every race. There has been alot of temptation but I have always tried to protect myself from this in hopes that I will find someone that I really click with at a mental and physical level. So far the search has been disappointing and hopeless, sometimes it does feel like that all has gone to waste. This is more at a personal level but I do feel that I have scrificed so much so I can't just settle for someone 'less' then what I want and have been looking for so long.

Does that person exists? I don't know... but I'll keep looking. I do talk to Allah alot and try to have a conversation sometimes, I hear back other times I don't. Life is a struggle.

[Songbird]

Some good post, some jokes, overall so far so good. I thought I would be crucified by now by some ppl.

I am not limiting myself to any race or culture. As some of you have grasped this correctly I try to look beyond the race/culture divide. If I am not attracted to most desi girls it doesn't mean that I am attracted to all white women, arabic women or persians. I have seen many that I am not interested in, one or the other way. But moslty it is my own culture/race that I have been disappointed with. I guess mostly it is the cultural attitude that turns me off, but physical attraction is very important, and I don't find that alot in my own culture.

Maybe most of you are more religious and stronger then me, but I never had the mentality that have all the fun that you can, screw around and when you are tired of partying go back home and find a nice innocent desi girl. It has been tough though, I am somewhat attractive, so I do get looks and smiles from girls from almost every race. There has been alot of temptation but I have always tried to protect myself from this in hopes that I will find someone that I really click with at a mental and physical level. So far the search has been disappointing and hopeless, sometimes it does feel like that all has gone to waste. This is more at a personal level but I do feel that I have scrificed so much so I can't just settle for someone 'less' then what I want and have been looking for so long.

Does that person exists? I don't know... but I'll keep looking. I do talk to Allah alot and try to have a conversation sometimes, I hear back other times I don't. Life is a struggle.
:there:

[Supernova Nebula]

Some good post, some jokes, overall so far so good. I thought I would be crucified by now by some ppl.

I am not limiting myself to any race or culture. As some of you have grasped this correctly I try to look beyond the race/culture divide. If I am not attracted to most desi girls it doesn't mean that I am attracted to all white women, arabic women or persians. I have seen many that I am not interested in, one or the other way. But moslty it is my own culture/race that I have been disappointed with. I guess mostly it is the cultural attitude that turns me off, but physical attraction is very important, and I don't find that alot in my own culture.

Maybe most of you are more religious and stronger then me, but I never had the mentality that have all the fun that you can, screw around and when you are tired of partying go back home and find a nice innocent desi girl. It has been tough though, I am somewhat attractive, so I do get looks and smiles from girls from almost every race. There has been alot of temptation but I have always tried to protect myself from this in hopes that I will find someone that I really click with at a mental and physical level. So far the search has been disappointing and hopeless, sometimes it does feel like that all has gone to waste. This is more at a personal level but I do feel that I have scrificed so much so I can't just settle for someone 'less' then what I want and have been looking for so long.

Does that person exists? I don't know... but I'll keep looking. I do talk to Allah alot and try to have a conversation sometimes, I hear back other times I don't. Life is a struggle.

I can understand that, but my case mostly is that I find monoculturalism to be boring, everything just look the same. since i was small, I've always liked differences that include intermarriages.

[Ruprecht]

Seems strange to me that people could find such a large and varied group of people physically unnattractive.
...but then I don't understand how some people can dislike entire types of food (like seafood for instance) either.

Guess I'm just fortunate. :scratch:

[Kal-El]

I must be the only Muslimah who doesn't find this guy drop-dead-gorgeous :rolleyes:

he's not a typical actor, good personality and smart too, princeton graduate.

Wentworth miller is part African-American, Jamaican, English, German, French, Dutch, Syrian, and Lebanese.

Err, he's still a creation of Allah swt.

And Allah loves beauty and so do many of his creation.

Ain't nothin' wrong in acknowledging someone's God-given good looks bro.

It's another thing though if Supernova Nebula starts following him around :D

Masha'Allah Facinating isn't it...:up:..

:rotfl::rotfl:Freaks!

It's fine your attracted to..Allah's creations (what else would you be attracted to), but don't lust over them on a public forum, it's not exactly Muslimah like. Take it to the sisters action.

[Supernova Nebula]

:rotfl::rotfl:Freaks!

It's fine your attracted to..Allah's creations (what else would you be attracted to), but don't lust over them on a public forum, it's not exactly Muslimah like. Take it to the sisters action.

huh? did we sound as if we are lusting over him to you?

[Ruprecht]

huh? did we sound as if we are lusting over him to you?

No... Just planning the wedding and naming the children... :D

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

No... Just planning the wedding and naming the children... :D


Put his conversion to Islam first in that list :) :D


:wswrwb:

[Kal-El]

huh? did we sound as if we are lusting over him to you?

I was struggling to find a better word. I sort of expect someone to also tell us his address :rotfl:

I just find this funny :o

[Supernova Nebula]

I was struggling to find a better word. I sort of expect someone to also tell us his address :rotfl:

I just find this funny :o


after stalking him for a few months, I found the thesis he wrote for his bachelor's in English at Princeton;)

[Kal-El]

after stalking him for a few months, I found the thesis he wrote for his bachelor's in English at Princeton;)

I can just imagine his face if he read this thread. :nervous:

[Supernova Nebula]

I can just imagine his face if he read this thread. :nervous: Princeton University Senior Theses Full Record THESIS NO.:6138 TITLE:Doubling and the Identity Construct in Charlotte Perkins Gilman's "The Yellow Wallpaper," Jean Rhys's Wide Sargasso Sea, and Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre (116 pages). AUTHOR: Wentworth Earl Miller, III (1995), English Department ADVISOR:Dent, Gina LOCATED AT: Mudd Library. Interested in ordering a photocopy of a senior thesis? Click here. (http://www.princeton.edu/%7Emudd/thesis/Order_thesis.html)
Use your browser's BACK button to return to the brief listing or return to Search senior theses (http://libweb5.princeton.edu/theses/theses.asp#Search).

[Bint Yusuf]

:salams:

hmmm, whose wentworth?

[Supernova Nebula]

:salams:

hmmm, whose wentworth?

wentworth it, Michael Scofield, Prison Break:D

[Peacenik]

I can just imagine his face if he read this thread. :nervous:

I don't mind at all.

Thank you, SN.

[Supernova Nebula]

I don't mind at all.

Thank you, SN.

:rotfl::rofl1:

[Bint Yusuf]

wentworth it, Michael Scofield, Prison Break:D

what's prison break?

[Supernova Nebula]

what's prison break?

fox drama series, season 3 is coming this august:D

[Peacenik]

fox drama series, season 3 is coming this august:D

SN, keep it quiet will you ?

It was meant to be classified info.

Only me and the production crew know about it - how the hell did you get hold of that intel ?

[Supernova Nebula]

SN, keep it quiet will you ?

It was meant to be classified info.

Only me and the production crew know about it - how the hell did you get hold of that intel ?

Everybody knows it already:rolleyes: Went, any plan to become Muslim? alot of Muslimahs want to marry you:D

[Peacenik]

Everybody knows it already:rolleyes: Went, any plan to become Muslim? alot of Muslimahs want to marry you:D

*shhhhhh*

I'm already Muslim...

[Songbird]

Everybody knows it already:rolleyes: Went, any plan to become Muslim? alot of Muslimahs want to marry you:D
Not me :D

But if James Blake :inlove: be readin' this, here, let me help you:

La ilaha illallah...

:o

[.: Rashid :.]

Funny that the sisters get away with it...

If it was us, we would've been hung, drawn and quartered by now :p

-Rashid

[Kal-El]

Funny that the sisters get away with it...

If it was us, we would've been hung, drawn and quartered by now :p

-Rashid

They can get away with it, because we all know it aint gonna happen :rotfl:It's their way of escaping reality :p

[Songbird]

Funny that the sisters get away with it...

That's coz we iz soft 'n' precious 'n' cuddly :D


If it was us, we would've been hung, drawn and quartered by now :p

You omitted "then being fed to some voracious lions" :p

[bac0nsandwich]

You' re a human being mate. You can marry who you like, whether anyone approves or not.

[Songbird]

I wish we had a filtering system here for idiots.

But welcome nevertheless pig sanga.

[perfectpearl]

wentworth it, Michael Scofield, Prison Break:D

Not me :D

But if James Blake :inlove: be readin' this, here, let me help you:

La ilaha illallah...

:o

U guys have to be kidding me! There are so much more better looking ones out there! ;)

[Songbird]

Who finds who good looking is all subjective. Your idea of good looking could make other sisters grimace.

[peace2u]

that is so true, because I don't find the above mentioned guys that attractive.

Peace

[Supernova Nebula]

U guys have to be kidding me! There are so much more better looking ones out there! ;)

that is so true, because I don't find the above mentioned guys that attractive.

Peace

its his personality and brains, i've been stressing:o

[Songbird]

Yeah, and I have the body of Cindy Crawford :D

[peace2u]

its his personality and brains, i've been stressing:o
Yeah I know :p just commenting on the post above :D


Peace

[Supernova Nebula]

Yeah I know :p just commenting on the post above :D


Peace

now u have to stalk him for me, he lives somewhere in LA:o

[peace2u]

Are you kidding, without their makeup, stars look like your average tom, joe and harry :S I wouldn't know him if I saw him in our neighborhood supermarket. :eek:


Peace

[Supernova Nebula]

Are you kidding, without their makeup, stars look like your average tom, joe and harry :S I wouldn't know him if I saw him in our neighborhood supermarket. :eek:


Peace

we are not talking about the likes of Jlo - female actors with make up:(. noooooooo Went is always natural..ever seen his pic taken candidly by paparazzi?:o geeezzz i think i'm obsessed:o

[Songbird]

?:o geeezzz i think i'm obsessed:o
Acknowledging you have a problem is the first step :D

[peace2u]

No, I have never seen one of him, but for men, it's the ragged, unshavened (ungroomed for the bearded), dis-sheveled look. Besides, if I going star hunting, I got someone else in mind :p


Peace

[Songbird]

Care to share? :D

[Songbird]

Afrasayab is gonna be mighty angry with us when he eventually gets his bottom here :D

[peace2u]

Care to share? :D

Nah:p but nebs know who I'm talking about ;). Besides, don't want my head chewed off here, which I know I'll get a tellin' off if I say who it is. Brothers can't handle it :D


Peace

[Cashew]

No, I have never seen one of him, but for men, it's the ragged, unshavened (ungroomed for the bearded), dis-sheveled look. Besides, if I going star hunting, I got someone else in mind :p


Peace

Could this be the ragged, unshaved, disheveled "star" you're hunting?


http://www.cfcl.com/vlb/weblog/images/cookie_monster-4.jpg

[Supernova Nebula]

Could this be the ragged, unshaved, disheveled "star" you're hunting?


http://www.cfcl.com/vlb/weblog/images/cookie_monster-4.jpg

:rotfl::rofl1:

[peace2u]

Could this be the ragged, unshaved, disheveled "star" you're hunting?


http://www.cfcl.com/vlb/weblog/images/cookie_monster-4.jpg

LOL

Peace

[Te'oma]

Could this be the ragged, unshaved, disheveled "star" you're hunting?


http://www.cfcl.com/vlb/weblog/images/cookie_monster-4.jpg

Dang...so that was the flash of light that I saw when I got up this morning

[afrasayab]

Afrasayab is gonna be mighty angry with us when he eventually gets his bottom here :D

Nah, coz if you see me, you'll forget the star hunting ;)

[.: Rashid :.]

Nah, coz if you see me, you'll forget the star hunting ;)

:smack:

Akhi, get in the bros room and post yer pic :p

-Rashid

[.: Rashid :.]

you at it again? :rolleyes:


Dontttt!! Rashids a dodgy guy he's luring you into his trap....pedo! :torture:



i'm kiddin :p

:outta:

-Rashid

[afrasayab]

:smack:

Akhi, get in the bros room and post yer pic :p

-Rashid
Really, I didn't know that ppl can post their pics here, atleast guys. Although I am searching for the one, but the idea of parading my pic seems weired to me. I don't know...

[souljaa]

Really, I didn't know that ppl can post their pics here, atleast guys. Although I am searching for the one, but the idea of parading my pic seems weired to me. I don't know...

DON'T post your pic here...There is a section strictly for brothers where you can post your pic :)...InshAllah apply for access through UserCP

[afrasayab]

On top of that guys post their pics so 'sisters' can check them out?

that is not fair

[.: Rashid :.]

Really, I didn't know that ppl can post their pics here, atleast guys. Although I am searching for the one, but the idea of parading my pic seems weired to me. I don't know...

On top of that guys post their pics so 'sisters' can check them out?

that is not fair

See soulja's post :smack:

Apply for access to the bro's section from your User CP (under Group Memberships) and then post your pic in there insha'Allah.

No sisters can see the picture.

I think you need like 400 posts or something first though.

-Rashid

[souljaa]

See soulja's post :smack:

Apply for access to the bro's section from your User CP (under Group Memberships) and then post your pic in there insha'Allah.

No sisters can see the picture.

I think you need like 400 posts or something first though.

-Rashid

You sure? What about LFC? :p

[Songbird]

No sisters can see the picture.
Don't be too sure of that :D

[Songbird]

Nah, coz if you see me, you'll forget the star hunting ;)
His modesty endears me already :o

Pssst, do you like cats? :D

[.: Rashid :.]

You sure? What about LFC? :p

:p

Don't be too sure of that :D

:rubeyes:

His modesty endears me already :o

Pssst, do you like cats? :D

:scratch:

-Rashid

[afrasayab]

See soulja's post :smack:

Apply for access to the bro's section from your User CP (under Group Memberships) and then post your pic in there insha'Allah.

No sisters can see the picture.

I think you need like 400 posts or something first though.

-Rashid
Now, why would I want brothers to see my pic??

[.: Rashid :.]

Now, why would I want brothers to see my pic??

Why would you want sisters to see your pic, eh, eh? ;) :p

And its not cos you want brothers to see your pic...but cos brothers wanna see your picture :coolbro:

-Rashid

[afrasayab]

Why would you want sisters to see your pic, eh, eh? ;) :p

And its not cos you want brothers to see your pic...but cos brothers wanna see your picture :coolbro:

-Rashid

I did not say I want sisters to see my pic.
Why would brothers want to see my pic? creepy

[.: Rashid :.]

I did not say I want sisters to see my pic.
Why would brothers want to see my pic? creepy

I was joking :p and:

Nah, coz if you see me, you'll forget the star hunting ;)

You can't be saying things like that and not expect people to ask for your pic :p (as a challenge not cos they wanna see your good looks :smack: )

-Rashid

[peace2u]

it is nice putting a face to a username. I'm sure the brothers here are not perverted or anything. It is just nice knowing who you are talking to. Maybe wait to get to know the brothers first and then you will feel more comfortable letting them see your pic or even meeting. I know some have had ummah meet ups


Peace

[perfectpearl]

Nah, coz if you see me, you'll forget the star hunting ;)

Oh my....someones got ego problems .. :rolleyes:

[Islamiyyah]

you at it again? :rolleyes:


Dontttt!! Rashids a dodgy guy he's luring you into his trap....pedo! :torture:



i'm kiddin :p

Nice avvie you got there huh. :torture:

[dimension]

Why would brothers want to see my pic?

halloween is coming up - we need some new masks :up:

[perfectpearl]

halloween is coming up - we need some new masks :up:

lol....whooh ...that was pretty funny.

[Lambo5688]

lol....whooh ...that was pretty funny.

...I don't think it should be funny for you....:outta:

[perfectpearl]

...I don't think it should be funny for you....:outta:

:scratch:

[LFC]

You sure? What about LFC? :p

Oh yeah, they're still going crazy over it. :coolbro:

[muslimahonline]

Well, as the title says, I have figured that I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture). I am from Pakistan living in Canada and since I am old enough and have a stable job there is mounting pressure from the family to get married soon. I hear that annoying question very often that 'when are you getting married'. My sisters and dad has also tried to hook me up (showed pics) with desi girls and I have also met couple of them in person but I just don't seem to feel it. I don't get attracted to desi girls physicaly and personality wise (many times it is one or the other but mostly I don't feel the physical attraction). I hope no one gets offended but this is a serious problem for me, because there aren't alot of options if you want to marry outside of your race/culture but within the religion here. My family doesn't know too many ppl outside of the community and personally I am not aggressive in terms of approaching girls in general (and I am talking about with good intensions).

So, just wondering if I am alone in this boat or anyone of you have gone through similar situation. Any suggestions or ideas? This is a serious questions so please only serious answers. Salaam

Nobody can force you into marrying. When the time comes, you will know it. Funny thing about marriage is that when you meet your partner, it will happen. ALLAH has written who you will marry millions of years ago..

[Reptile]

To Rashid

I can't rep back for another 24 hours its seems. In reply to your rep, it's true bro. So so true. And the rumour you heard, it's a fake. I'm going Oriental :D


a somalian marrying someone from the orient? you have better chance of elevation

[Muslimah Wifey]

Back to the subject at hand...

Brother, i think you should refrain from using that term. Some may find it offensive. There are many reverted sisters here and i'm sure if you were one of them you wouldnt be too pleased!.. Forget that.. it doesnt exactly give a good impression to the non-muslims either. To you it might just be a description of their skin-colour but to them its 'racism'. So chill'aaat. :)

:up: Gori is offensive 2 me, and whoever said Gori's can't cook and all the talks about white girls: I am not a convert I am a born white Muslim. My parents both converted alhamdulilah. The ummah is diverse now... GET OVER IT and say mashAllah!

Seems like some ppl find it offensive and/or uncomfortable that I am not attracted to "asian girls". First, I never said asian, I only said desi, second, there are alot more ppl around who only want to marry their own race/culture. Isn't that narrow mindedness, racist perhaps. So how was Islam spread again?

:up: MAJOR PROPS BRO!



I beleive as muslims, no matter where we are from, our culture should be Islam, and that is most important thing and a solution to alot of our problems. I think marraiges into other culture/races should be encouraged, because this was one of the reasons that Islam was spread so quickly.


:up: :up: DOUBLE MAJOR PROPS lol

Okay, well. Like I said above I am a born into Islam, white American Muslim MashAllah. (Although like someone else said people don't ever believe me). I lived for many years in the Middle East, so I speak fluent Arabic, and people say I look Arab lol.
But anywayzzz I was never attracted to my own ethnicity either. I was always only attracted to Arabs, not anything else. (Maybe because I lived in Arabic countries growing up, so I developed that taste for food, language, culture?)
Never-the-less alhamdulilah my parents are all about CHARACTER and IMAN what we should all be about. And so I married an ARAB! YESSS score one for me, Arab babiessss! My in laws are also all about the UMMAH and not where you're from. Turns out my husband hates girls from his country (it's not a racist Arab thing, it's just like you said, the only pretty one's are stuck-up and without iman) Or so he thinks...

So, more power to you... Ever noticed that mixed race people are always the most beautiful MASHALLAH! No matter what the mix, sobhanAllah!

[.: Rashid :.]

Back to the subject at hand...



:up: Gori is offensive 2 me, and whoever said Gori's can't cook and all the talks about white girls: I am not a convert I am a born white Muslim. My parents both converted alhamdulilah. The ummah is diverse now... GET OVER IT and say mashAllah!



:up: MAJOR PROPS BRO!



:up: :up: DOUBLE MAJOR PROPS lol

Okay, well. Like I said above I am a born into Islam, white American Muslim MashAllah. (Although like someone else said people don't ever believe me). I lived for many years in the Middle East, so I speak fluent Arabic, and people say I look Arab lol.
But anywayzzz I was never attracted to my own ethnicity either. I was always only attracted to Arabs, not anything else. (Maybe because I lived in Arabic countries growing up, so I developed that taste for food, language, culture?)
Never-the-less alhamdulilah my parents are all about CHARACTER and IMAN what we should all be about. And so I married an ARAB! YESSS score one for me, Arab babiessss! My in laws are also all about the UMMAH and not where you're from. Turns out my husband hates girls from his country (it's not a racist Arab thing, it's just like you said, the only pretty one's are stuck-up and without iman) Or so he thinks...

So, more power to you... Ever noticed that mixed race people are always the most beautiful MASHALLAH! No matter what the mix, sobhanAllah!

Masha'Allah :up:

And yeah, I have :o

-Rashid

[Kal-El]

a somalian marrying someone from the orient? you have better chance of elevation

If I marry, I'll marry anyone who I want. I was just expressing that I have no restraints personally, unlike most other Somali's who are practically forced to marry inside their own tribe, let alone skin colour!

[afrasayab]

it is nice putting a face to a username. I'm sure the brothers here are not perverted or anything. It is just nice knowing who you are talking to. Maybe wait to get to know the brothers first and then you will feel more comfortable letting them see your pic or even meeting. I know some have had ummah meet ups


Peace
I have a hard time figuring out who is brother and who is sister. I have been laughed at coz of this in one of the previous threads :(

[afrasayab]

Oh my....someones got ego problems .. :rolleyes:

someone got no sense of humour.:rolleyes:

[Supernova Nebula]

If I marry, I'll marry anyone who I want. I was just expressing that I have no restraints personally, unlike most other Somali's who are practically forced to marry inside their own tribe, let alone skin colour!

yea, african should marry whitey so u get wentworth miller:o

[afrasayab]

Back to the subject at hand...



:up: Gori is offensive 2 me, and whoever said Gori's can't cook and all the talks about white girls: I am not a convert I am a born white Muslim. My parents both converted alhamdulilah. The ummah is diverse now... GET OVER IT and say mashAllah!



:up: MAJOR PROPS BRO!



:up: :up: DOUBLE MAJOR PROPS lol

Okay, well. Like I said above I am a born into Islam, white American Muslim MashAllah. (Although like someone else said people don't ever believe me). I lived for many years in the Middle East, so I speak fluent Arabic, and people say I look Arab lol.
But anywayzzz I was never attracted to my own ethnicity either. I was always only attracted to Arabs, not anything else. (Maybe because I lived in Arabic countries growing up, so I developed that taste for food, language, culture?)
Never-the-less alhamdulilah my parents are all about CHARACTER and IMAN what we should all be about. And so I married an ARAB! YESSS score one for me, Arab babiessss! My in laws are also all about the UMMAH and not where you're from. Turns out my husband hates girls from his country (it's not a racist Arab thing, it's just like you said, the only pretty one's are stuck-up and without iman) Or so he thinks...

So, more power to you... Ever noticed that mixed race people are always the most beautiful MASHALLAH! No matter what the mix, sobhanAllah!

Mashallah I am soo happy for you that you found the one. My time will come. Inshallah

The girl I wanted to marry 4yrs ago was white russian, she converted. And yes she could cook and make roti!!! I mean I know alot of desi girls who can't do ****. ****es me off.

You rightly pointed out that there are few good looking ones, desi in this case, (very few indeed) and the ones that are have big time attitude and no Iman :( A big turn off for me.

It is all about economics, simple theory of supply and demand. Since there are alot of guys (demand), and very few desi good looking girls (supply) the price goes up (attitude). I maybe biased, but I have talked to many desi guys, and girls on this subject and most seem to agree.

I keep my options open though...

Sometimes I do feel that I don't deserve all this, there is soo much suffering and pain in this world, and I am thinking about a comfortable life and demanding so much from God.

[Cashew]

Back to the subject at hand...



:up: Gori is offensive 2 me, and whoever said Gori's can't cook and all the talks about white girls: I am not a convert I am a born white Muslim. My parents both converted alhamdulilah. The ummah is diverse now... GET OVER IT and say mashAllah!


Okay, well. Like I said above I am a born into Islam, white American Muslim MashAllah. (Although like someone else said people don't ever believe me). I lived for many years in the Middle East, so I speak fluent Arabic, and people say I look Arab lol.
But anywayzzz I was never attracted to my own ethnicity either. I was always only attracted to Arabs, not anything else. (Maybe because I lived in Arabic countries growing up, so I developed that taste for food, language, culture?)
Never-the-less alhamdulilah my parents are all about CHARACTER and IMAN what we should all be about. And so I married an ARAB! YESSS score one for me, Arab babiessss! My in laws are also all about the UMMAH and not where you're from. Turns out my husband hates girls from his country (it's not a racist Arab thing, it's just like you said, the only pretty one's are stuck-up and without iman) Or so he thinks...

So, more power to you... Ever noticed that mixed race people are always the most beautiful MASHALLAH! No matter what the mix, sobhanAllah!

I think many Muslims, not just in this forum but in the Muslim world in general, ought read this post.

So many Muslims agree in principle that the ummah should be without borders, that there's no room for nationalism or racism in Islam, but have an extremely difficult time accepting those things in practice.

But the world is changing...millions are migrating all over the globe.

Islam isn't a convenient recipe for re-creating life in your family's ancestral village.

[Supernova Nebula]

I think many Muslims, not just in this forum but in the Muslim world in general, ought read this post.

So many Muslims agree in principle that the ummah should be without borders, that there's no room for nationalism or racism in Islam, but have an extremely difficult time accepting those things in practice.

But the world is changing...millions are migrating all over the globe.

Islam isn't a convenient recipe for re-creating life in your family's ancestral village.

I agree with you Cashew. many people esp Muslims dont think or go beyond their small world coz they have some pre-conceived ideas about certain race. U wont believe if i tell you that even some educated Muslims think that all whitey-western people are necessariy immoral. cultural issues are also among the reasons, and this muslims of course who dont want to think beyond their so-called culture.

[Muslimah Wifey]

I think many Muslims, not just in this forum but in the Muslim world in general, ought read this post.

So many Muslims agree in principle that the ummah should be without borders, that there's no room for nationalism or racism in Islam, but have an extremely difficult time accepting those things in practice.

But the world is changing...millions are migrating all over the globe.

Islam isn't a convenient recipe for re-creating life in your family's ancestral village.

Well said! Especially the fact gets hella annoying. I have blue eyes, people hear me talk Arabic and say where are you from? I'm like I'm American.. But where are your parents from... they're American... Oh so you converted? No. It's like GOD WHY THE HECK SHOULD I HAVE TO EXPLAIN MY LIFE STORY 2 EVERY JOE SHMOE I MEET IN THE STREET??? IM MUSLIM GET OVER IT.
LOL sorry it just really upsets me. Especially everyone always thinks I converted to marry my husband.

Our wedding was in my husband's country and my whole family flew out there for it. So they can see we are Muslim, alhamdulilah. So why did random long distance friends keep saying MASHALAH U CONVERTED HER? to my husband.

Another thing... when I lived in the Middle East people used to hear me speak English sometimes and ask why are you wearing that (referring to Abaya and hijab) I'd be like I'm Muslim and they say oh you don't look Muslim. HOW THE HECK DO I NOT LOOK MUSLIM WHEN I'M IN HIJAB?! Basically they were trying to say I don't look Arab. This is the racisim of the Ummah that quite frankly upsets me.

K Sorry everyone for my rant. :rant:

[Te'oma]

Hmmm if I didn't like my type...well I would be limited to blacks and east asians :p Those are about the only two races not in my pedigree...or lack thereof :p
If anyone asks me what race I am I just say native American because it's the largest chunk and I look like a halfbreed. Mind you...my kids choices are even more limited then mine. When my second youngest daughter was born we discovered my wife's scandalous family secret...4 generations back there was a black man in the woodpile

[ibnKathir27]

Hmmm if I didn't like my type...well I would be limited to blacks and east asians :p Those are about the only two races not in my pedigree...or lack thereof :p
If anyone asks me what race I am I just say native American because it's the largest chunk and I look like a halfbreed. Mind you...my kids choices are even more limited then mine. When my second youngest daughter was born we discovered my wife's scandalous family secret...4 generations back there was a black man in the woodpile

I am sure many 'blacks' would prefer you use the term African / caribbean / African-American.

What do you mean by a black man in the woodpile?

[AbuMubarak]

Well, as the title says, I have figured that I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture). I am from Pakistan living in Canada and since I am old enough and have a stable job there is mounting pressure from the family to get married soon. I hear that annoying question very often that 'when are you getting married'. My sisters and dad has also tried to hook me up (showed pics) with desi girls and I have also met couple of them in person but I just don't seem to feel it. I don't get attracted to desi girls physicaly and personality wise (many times it is one or the other but mostly I don't feel the physical attraction). I hope no one gets offended but this is a serious problem for me, because there aren't alot of options if you want to marry outside of your race/culture but within the religion here. My family doesn't know too many ppl outside of the community and personally I am not aggressive in terms of approaching girls in general (and I am talking about with good intensions).

So, just wondering if I am alone in this boat or anyone of you have gone through similar situation. Any suggestions or ideas? This is a serious questions so please only serious answers. Salaam


the fact you consider your position of "not liking your own kind" is troubling

the last i heard that, i was observing a black guy doing something illegal, and spoke about it to the locals, one of the inbred rednecks says, you are ratting on your "own kind"

i says to him, firstly, no one thinks like that in the 21st century i thought all of you guys died off after george wallace got shot

second, i told him, YOU are my kind, we are all human

but i tell you that to say, if there is such a thing as a reverse racism, brother, you have entered it

pakistanis are NOT their own kind

we are all part of one world, the only difference is imaan and kufr

now you may not like things about a particular person, but how can you classify a complete race, even if it is your own

we have a word for guys like you in america, we call them wannabes

you want to be something you are not and you are looking down on your own race to accomplish it

thats a major problem

[Te'oma]

I am sure many 'blacks' would prefer you use the term African / caribbean / African-American.

What do you mean by a black man in the woodpile?

African can be anything from Egyptian to swahili. Caribbean people aren't black either. The descendants of slaves brought to the islands are black but there are also a lot of asians and whites there too and African American wouldn't apply either because my wife's family is from Britain. I am sorry if I have offended you by using the term black but it is the only term that I could think of to describe the situation.
Having a man in the woodpile was a term for a woman having an affair. In my wife's great, great grandmother's case, it was a person of african descent of the non arab variety. My wife's great grandfather was half black but was passable as white.
Now to the present day. My second youngest daughter was born with features that would indicate african heritage and many people in the family were whispering that she must have had an affair but her grandmother shushed them all and told them about her father being half black.

[Kubs]

I think it isn't that we are naturally attracted to the same race, it is just what most societies expect of us. Most kids, are brought up to "stay with our own".

Also people are attracted to people of their own kind, not just race. Often times, a person will look for qualities very similar to those of their parents, and your parents make up your race... it's a cycle. It all comes down to how you were raised.

My parents don't mind who I get married to..as long as they are Muslim. However I've always been told that it's 'safer' to marry from your own race because there will be no clashes in culture and possibly they are easier to relate too.

:)

[Ruprecht]

the fact you consider your position of "not liking your own kind" is troubling

the last i heard that, i was observing a black guy doing something illegal, and spoke about it to the locals, one of the inbred rednecks says, you are ratting on your "own kind"

i says to him, firstly, no one thinks like that in the 21st century i thought all of you guys died off after george wallace got shot

second, i told him, YOU are my kind, we are all human

but i tell you that to say, if there is such a thing as a reverse racism, brother, you have entered it

pakistanis are NOT their own kind

we are all part of one world, the only difference is imaan and kufr

now you may not like things about a particular person, but how can you classify a complete race, even if it is your own

we have a word for guys like you in america, we call them wannabes

you want to be something you are not and you are looking down on your own race to accomplish it

thats a major problem

:scratch:
...it's like a jekyl and hyde thing.

[Reptile]

If I marry, I'll marry anyone who I want. I was just expressing that I have no restraints personally, unlike most other Somali's who are practically forced to marry inside their own tribe, let alone skin colour!

I just meant would your family even allow that? but Alhamdulilah if they do

[insomniac]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:

[AbuMubarak]

:scratch:
...it's like a jekyl and hyde thing.

i keep telling you, you dont know me

you guys like to sit and call me a racist

do you ever wonder why muslims dont refer to me as racist?

its because i am not

and you and the others can say it all day long, but that isnt going to make it any more true

i abhor the evil that has been done by racists, and that is what you dont like to hear

but i hate racism and racists, whether from muslims or kafirs

[Kal-El]

I just meant would your family even allow that? but Alhamdulilah if they do

I've been having that conversation with my mother for as long as I remember. She gets upset by it but wouldn't be surprised if I chose to marry a non-Somali. She says I'm pretty "weird" anyway :D

[Kal-El]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:

With many people, it's not what they want but perhaps what they're family wants or how that decision could affect the wider family.

[Kubs]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:

Why would ANYBODY refuse a person just because they are of a certain race. How can someone be so shallow?

[Kal-El]

Why would ANYBODY refuse a person just because they are of a certain race. How can someone be so shallow?

Maybe they don't find them attractive? Or not as attractive as something else?

[Kubs]

Maybe they don't find them attractive? Or not as attractive as something else?


That's absolutely fine.

However it is wrong in my opinion if he only rejects her because she is of a certain race.

[insomniac]

That's absolutely fine.

However it is wrong in my opinion if he only rejects her because she is of a certain race.

Alhamdulillah couldn't agree more :up:

[afrasayab]

Maybe they don't find them attractive? Or not as attractive as something else?


If you don't find someone attractive then that person is not the 'right person' for you. I find the above few posts contradictory. If only I could learn how to spell :(

In response to the first question, I have said I keep my options open, so If the 'right person' comes from my own race there is no issue. I am just not limiting my self to one race or culture. And as I have said before I am just not as attracted to my own kind (culture/race... I think by now ppl should be able to decipher what I ment by 'own kind' ... too lazy to change the title).

And in respose to the second question, that how can someone be so shallow to refuse to marry the 'right person' from the same culture/race. Well once again, 'right person' is the right person if you are attracted to someone (iman, physical attraction, and personality) then you should marry that person regardless of culture/race. What about the ppl who don't marry outside of their own culture/race, even if they meet someone nice? How can someone be so shallow ;)

Passing judgement before understanding someones point of view is being shallow. Just a general statement, not directed to anyone.

[Cashew]

GOD WHY THE HECK SHOULD I HAVE TO EXPLAIN MY LIFE STORY 2 EVERY JOE SHMOE I MEET IN THE STREET??? IM MUSLIM GET OVER IT.

...So why did random long distance friends keep saying MASHALAH U CONVERTED HER? to my husband.

...I'd be like I'm Muslim and they say oh you don't look Muslim. HOW THE HECK DO I NOT LOOK MUSLIM WHEN I'M IN HIJAB?!

:rofl1:

I really love that random strangers feel that you personally owe them some sort of explanation of who and what you are.

[insomniac]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:

but no one answered the hypothetical question.....

[peace2u]

Wow, this thread is still going? :eek:


Peace

[Reptile]

I've been having that conversation with my mother for as long as I remember. She gets upset by it but wouldn't be surprised if I chose to marry a non-Somali. She says I'm pretty "weird" anyway :D

same here, but you know what lifes like, you'll end up marrying one :D which is why now im 'pro' somalian trying to do reverse psychology with fate :p

[Kal-El]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:

No, that wouldn't make sense. Those who are un-attracted to their "own kind", perhaps have a problem with the mentality, or attitude, or appearance or just culture of their "kind". For example, say I am Pakistani and I tell you "I don't really like Pakistani girls". I am only generalising, that doesn't mean it is impossible for me to end up with one though.

So naturally if one of them, who had such amazing qualities - beit their mentality, attitude or appearance or anything else, there would be no reason why I wouldn't like her but every reason why I would like her.

But those who are not into their own kind, it is because they find it rare to find such qualities from people of their own ethnicity. But the main quality in this context is appearance/attraction.

If I had a choice of two women, one Pakistani like I and one from e.g. Malaysia (and I was naturally attracted to Malaysians) and these two had the same qualities and character - yet looked different in appearance, it would be more likely I'd go for the one who I was attracted to, the Malaysian sister. But if there was no choice - then there is no reason why I wouldn't choose the Pakistani sister.

If that makes sense :scratch:

So in regards to your question :p, it depends if there is a choice or not but personally I would not say no to such a proposal like that.

[insomniac]

No, that wouldn't make sense. Those who are un-attracted to their "own kind", perhaps have a problem with the mentality, or attitude, or appearance or just culture of their "kind". For example, say I am Pakistani and I tell you "I don't really like Pakistani girls". I am only generalising, that doesn't mean it is impossible for me to end up with one though.

So naturally if one of them, who had such amazing qualities - beit their mentality, attitude or appearance or anything else, there would be no reason why I wouldn't like her but every reason why I would like her.


Alhamdulillah that's good to hear bro. :up:


The point I wanted to get out of this thread was exactly that......we may not be attracted to people of particular races due to physical appearance, further connotations linked to the race, cultural baggage, etc. however sometimes Allaah swt places a love for something which we had never thought to be the case.

If Allah has decreed that we are to marry someone from a particular race then who is there who can stop the will of Allah, and if Allah has decreed that we are not to get married to someone from a particular race then who is there that can change His will.

[Te'oma]

ok hypothetical question....

if the right person came along with all the right qualities and then you later find out they are Pakistani or whatever race is your own kind, would you automatically no longer wana marry them :confused:



but no one answered the hypothetical question.....


OK then I will answer it. When the time comes that you meet someone and everything clicks, I don't care if they are white, black or purple it's not going to matter one iota because you are going to be looking through the eyes of someone that is in love. It's that simple...and yes I do believe that someone can fall in love that fast

[insomniac]

[/I]

OK then I will answer it. When the time comes that you meet someone and everything clicks, I don't care if they are white, black or purple it's not going to matter one iota because you are going to be looking through the eyes of someone that is in love. It's that simple...and yes I do believe that someone can fall in love that fast

alhamdulillah spot on bro :) :up:

[afsalim]

Brother, I see no problem in this. There many good Muslimah out there coming from different ethnicities. If you ask me, a little diversity goes a long way!

Good luck! :up:

[Supernova Nebula]

No, that wouldn't make sense. Those who are un-attracted to their "own kind", perhaps have a problem with the mentality, or attitude, or appearance or just culture of their "kind". For example, say I am Pakistani and I tell you "I don't really like Pakistani girls". I am only generalising, that doesn't mean it is impossible for me to end up with one though.

So naturally if one of them, who had such amazing qualities - beit their mentality, attitude or appearance or anything else, there would be no reason why I wouldn't like her but every reason why I would like her.

But those who are not into their own kind, it is because they find it rare to find such qualities from people of their own ethnicity. But the main quality in this context is appearance/attraction.

If I had a choice of two women, one Pakistani like I and one from e.g. Malaysia (and I was naturally attracted to Malaysians) and these two had the same qualities and character - yet looked different in appearance, it would be more likely I'd go for the one who I was attracted to, the Malaysian sister. But if there was no choice - then there is no reason why I wouldn't choose the Pakistani sister.

If that makes sense :scratch:

So in regards to your question :p, it depends if there is a choice or not but personally I would not say no to such a proposal like that.


Kal, there are many Malaysians in the UK, u just need to do some hunting. I hear many of them in central london :p

[Kal-El]

It was just a hypothetical scenario :D

[Supernova Nebula]

It was just a hypothetical scenario :D


heheh, Kal the casanova:p

[Lost_Princess]

Well, as the title says, I have figured that I am not attracted to my own kind (race/culture). I am from Pakistan living in Canada and since I am old enough and have a stable job there is mounting pressure from the family to get married soon. I hear that annoying question very often that 'when are you getting married'. My sisters and dad has also tried to hook me up (showed pics) with desi girls and I have also met couple of them in person but I just don't seem to feel it. I don't get attracted to desi girls physicaly and personality wise (many times it is one or the other but mostly I don't feel the physical attraction). I hope no one gets offended but this is a serious problem for me, because there aren't alot of options if you want to marry outside of your race/culture but within the religion here. My family doesn't know too many ppl outside of the community and personally I am not aggressive in terms of approaching girls in general (and I am talking about with good intensions).

So, just wondering if I am alone in this boat or anyone of you have gone through similar situation. Any suggestions or ideas? This is a serious questions so please only serious answers. Salaam


i so understand where u are coming from but im a girl so its really the opposite and my parents arent really worried because they only want wat is best for me and what makes me happy im lebanese and no one in my generation has married outside our race and to tell you the truth i really dont want to marry a lebo guy i have my reasons but then only allah knows when and to who we will get married to so im not really worried :):)

[.: Rashid :.]

When Arab parents restrict their kids based on nationality its really bizarre for me...I mean, Arabs are pretty much all the same across their countries, because the countries themselves are all artificial products of colonialism.

I mean, whats the difference between a Kuwaiti and a Saudi , or a Yemeni and an Omani? I mean, apart from minor dialect-"ic" things, how much difference is there?

At least with Bangladesh and Pakistan for example, they have different language, food, clothing, physical appearance etc (not that that makes it OK :smack: )

-Rashid

[Muslimah Wifey]

When Arab parents restrict their kids based on nationality its really bizarre for me...I mean, Arabs are pretty much all the same across their countries, because the countries themselves are all artificial products of colonialism.

I mean, whats the difference between a Kuwaiti and a Saudi , or a Yemeni and an Omani? I mean, apart from minor dialect-"ic" things, how much difference is there?

At least with Bangladesh and Pakistan for example, they have different language, food, clothing, physical appearance etc (not that that makes it OK :smack: )

-Rashid

I admit in terms of some areas, there is little discrepency (such as Yemeni and Omani) although culturally and religiously they are very different. (Oman has a large Shia population)

HOWEVER... from area to area there are VAST differences, even in physical appearance.

I group all Sham together as having similar culture, looks, etc (Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon) and then I group all khaleej together as having similiar culture and looks, and finally North Africa maybe put Algeria, Tunisia together, Egypt is kinda alone in culture, and Libya mmm I dunno.

But you can't say that a north african shares same culture as a yemeni who shares the same culture as a lebanese... THEY ARE SOOOO DIFFERENT and not just in lugha.

[.: Rashid :.]

I admit in terms of some areas, there is little discrepency (such as Yemeni and Omani) although culturally and religiously they are very different. (Oman has a large Shia population)

HOWEVER... from area to area there are VAST differences, even in physical appearance.

I group all Sham together as having similar culture, looks, etc (Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon) and then I group all khaleej together as having similiar culture and looks, and finally North Africa maybe put Algeria, Tunisia together, Egypt is kinda alone in culture, and Libya mmm I dunno.

But you can't say that a north african shares same culture as a yemeni who shares the same culture as a lebanese... THEY ARE SOOOO DIFFERENT and not just in lugha.

Yeah I know thats true thats why I avoided using countries with differences like that and kept it to countries which are very similar.

But I mean generally...you get my point...

-Rashid

[Muslimah Wifey]

Yeah I know thats true thats why I avoided using countries with differences like that and kept it to countries which are very similar.


lol. Yea.

Like for instance have you ever wondered why Jordan is shaped the way it is? It is kind of odd right like a big indent right in the middle of the eastern side, cutting across miles of Sau3dia. Why is there that cut? There is no river there or mountain range. So why?
Here is the pic in case you don't know what I'm talking about:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/hajjlulu/islamic_map.jpg

Well, apparently Jordan as it was created in the Cairo Conference of 1921, Winston Churchill, who was the British colonial secretary at the time, bragged that he "created Jordan with the stroke of the pen one Sunday afternoon". But still, why the weird shape?

Well, he was DRUNK as he was drawing the Jordan/ Saudia Arabia border, and midway through he hiccupped and his pen deviated from the straight edge he was using to draw.

So, essentially the difference of whether the people in that area were Saudi Arabians or Jordanians came because of a drunk man's hiccup.

Learn something new everyday ;)

[.: Rashid :.]

lol. Yea.

Like for instance have you ever wondered why Jordan is shaped the way it is? It is kind of odd right like a big indent right in the middle of the eastern side, cutting across miles of Sau3dia. Why is there that cut? There is no river there or mountain range. So why?
Here is the pic in case you don't know what I'm talking about:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/hajjlulu/islamic_map.jpg

Well, apparently Jordan as it was created in the Cairo Conference of 1921, Winston Churchill, who was the British colonial secretary at the time, bragged that he "created Jordan with the stroke of the pen one Sunday afternoon". But still, why the weird shape?

Well, he was DRUNK as he was drawing the Jordan/ Saudia Arabia border, and midway through he hiccupped and his pen deviated from the straight edge he was using to draw.

So, essentially the difference of whether the people in that area were Saudi Arabians or Jordanians came because of a drunk man's hiccup.

Learn something new everyday ;)

Haha :D Thats interesting... :jkk: for sharing :)

-Rashid

[RAJMIN]

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