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munyeka
27-06-07, 12:17 PM
Sallams all.

My understanding on changing names is that....

A woman will take her fathers name as on the day of Qiyaamah she will be called as:

eg. Fatima binte Muhammed.... is that correct?

and a man will be Muhammed bin Abdullah

so technically speaking women shouldnt really change thier surname to thier husbnads surname after marriage....is this correct?

What is the Islamic ruling on this matter and what about double barrelled surnames. I want to have a part of my husbands name. Sureky if he is part of me, i want his name to be a part of mine.

What would you do/ have done sisters.......? :confused:

nami
27-06-07, 12:33 PM
wasalaam

i looked into this a little while back and there are many fatwas. and it seems that the fatwas and options of scholars i read all seem to say that the name should not be changed after marriage.

the wife should keep her fathers name and it is a non muslim tradition to change the name after marriage.

the only part i am not sure about is if the wife was not named after her father in the first place.

Zesty
27-06-07, 12:35 PM
IM gona keep mine inshaAllah :)
I always thought the idea of having my husbands name is really nice.. because i am now a part of him.. but the fact is.. i will always be my father's daughter and on the day of Qiyamah will be called by that name!
Think i'll be the first in my family to keep it though :D

munyeka
27-06-07, 12:41 PM
I wana double barrell mine - not really the done thing with asians, but although im my daddys binte, im my husbands zawjee....which is equally important if not more.....we'll see!:inlove:

`asiya
27-06-07, 12:49 PM
Sallams all.

My understanding on changing names is that....

A woman will take her fathers name as on the day of Qiyaamah she will be called as:

eg. Fatima binte Muhammed.... is that correct?

and a man will be Muhammed bin Abdullah

so technically speaking women shouldnt really change thier surname to thier husbnads surname after marriage....is this correct?

What is the Islamic ruling on this matter and what about double barrelled surnames. I want to have a part of my husbands name. Sureky if he is part of me, i want his name to be a part of mine.

What would you do/ have done sisters.......? :confused: I believe it is not permissible to change your name to the name of your husband when u get married. There is no need to marry in the kufr law anyway, which is the only law which dictates this, An Islamic marriage is enough for us as muslims, and the ayat and hadith are so clear on this matter of women changing their sur-names.



Question Reference Number:: 2537

Title: It is haraam for a wife to take her husband’s name




Question: As-salamu Alaikum,
Many sisters in our community have taken the names of their husbands without realizing that they should have kept their father's name. Should they change their name back to the father's name or is it allowed to keep the husband's name?
Also, if a person is born out-of-wedlock, should they carry their father's last name or their mother's last name? What is the evidence for this?
Jazak Allah Khair.



Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permitted for anyone to claim to belong to anyone other than his father. Imitating the kuffaar by dropping the wife’s surname and giving her the husband’s name is haraam; it is also a form of falsehood, and humiliation of the woman. Anyone who has done this must repent to Allaah and put it right by going back to her father’s name.

With regard to a child born out of wedlock, he should be given his mother’s name and cannot be given the name of the adulterer. (For more information, see Question #1942 and 284).


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Question Reference Number:: 4362
Title: Woman taking her husband’s surname after marriage


Question:

i was just browsing this site and I came across ur answer to the question 2537 which deals with changing surnames of womens.. as u said it is haraam... can u plz gimme a refrence from quran on that or a hadith if possilbe..?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.
It seems that what is meant in the question is a woman changing her family name to that of her husband after she gets married. This is haraam and is not allowed in sharee’ah, because it is not permissible for anyone to claim to belong to anyone other than his or her father. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allaah…” [al-Ahzaab 33:5].

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed the one who claims to belong to someone other than his father.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad and others). And Allaah knows best.




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Question Reference Number:: 6241

Title: Why a woman should not take her husband’s surname



Question:

I have read your responses to the following questions 2537 and 4362 concerning a wife retaining her father's name upon marriage. The Ayaat mentioned from Surah Al-Ahzaab states that adopted sons (and hence daughters?) should not be called as sons of the step-fathers. However, how exactly does this apply to a wife simply changing her name for marriage; as she is not actually claiming to belong to her husband, but just taking his name. If it is a question of lineage, I would appreciate specific references from the Qur'an and hadith.
Thank you for your help and clarification.
Jazak'Allah Khayr.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

The effects of imitating the west in naming ourselves are many. One of them is the way in which people have got used to omitting the word ‘ibn’ (son of) or ‘ibnatu’ (daughter of) between their own names and the name of their fathers. The reason for this is, firstly, because some families have adopted children and given them their surname, so that the adopted child is called Foolaan Foolan [where ‘Foolaan (=So and so)’ stands for a name] and their real children are called Foolaan ibn Foolaan (So and so the son of So and so). Now in the fourteenth century AH, people have dropped the word ‘ibn’ or ‘ibnatu’ – which is unacceptable according to linguistics, custom and sharee’ah. May Allaah help us.

Another effect is the habit of women taking their husband’s surnames.

Originally, the woman is So and so, the Daughter of So and so, not So and so the wife of So and so! Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allaah…” [al-Ahzaab 33:5].

As it is in this world, so it will also be in the Hereafter, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“On the Day of Resurrection, each betrayer will have a banner raised beside him, and it will be said, this is the betrayer of So and so the son of So and so.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5709, and Muslim, 3265).

Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd (may Allaah preserve him) said: This is one of the beauties of sharee’ah, because calling a person by his father’s name is more appropriate for knowing who is who and telling people apart. The father is the protector and maintainer of the child and his mother both inside and outside the home.

This is why the father mixes with people in the marketplaces and takes risks by travelling to earn a halaal living and strive for their sakes. So the child is given the name of the father, not of the mother who is hidden away and who is one of those whom Allaah commanded (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses…” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]

(Tasmiyat al-Mawlood, 30, 31).

On the basis of the above, there is no blood tie between the husband and wife, so how can she take his surname as if she is part of the same lineage? Moreover, she may get divorced, or her husband may die, and she may marry another man. Will she keep changing her surname every time she marries another man?

Furthermore, there are rulings attached to her being named after her father, which have to do with inheritance, spending and who is a mahram, etc. Taking her husband’s surname overlooks all that. The husband is named after his own father, and what does she have to do with the lineage of her husband’s father? This goes against common sense and true facts. The husband has nothing that makes him better than his wife so that she should take his surname, whilst he takes his father’s name.

Hence everyone who has gone against this and taken her husband’s name should put matters right. We ask Allaah to put all the affairs of the Muslims right.


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alialiyan
27-06-07, 12:53 PM
my husbands most important to me but I would not change my surname to his family name.....firstly the reason quoted above and secondly my father will always remain my mehram but my husbands family is not.

I dont know how correct this is but I heard that when your husband dies you can not see his face as the Nikah ends when he is dead and therefor is no longer your husband

Bint Yusuf
27-06-07, 12:56 PM
:salams:

A muslim girl is the property of her father not her husband like the kuffars do.

When a non-muslim girl gets married and her father gives her away to her husband she becomes the property of her husband hence taking his name.

I personally prefer it as well taking your fathers name and Somalis have to learn all their fathers fathers fathers name. My grandad would teach me when I was younger on holiday.

Abu Mu'adh
27-06-07, 01:08 PM
If, by changing her family name and ascribing herself to another family, she intends to absolve herself of and turn away from her lineal ascription to her own father from whose loins she came, and to make herself a daughter of that other family, then this is a major sin that is extremely forbidden. Its prohibition has been transmitted with rigorously authenticated (sahih) chains in Bukhari and Muslim and other collections of hadith. [The reason for its extreme prohibition] is that it comprises showing ungratefulness for one's blessings, disregard for the rights of inheritance, kinship, reason, and other things, in addition to the severance of kinship ties and parental disobedience that it entails, as Imam Nawawi has explained.

If, however, the matter is not like this, but is merely an ascription of the wife’s name to her husband’s that some people have become habituated to doing without her intending to absolve herself of her lineal ascription to her father and adopting someone else as a father, then what is immediately apparent from the words of Imam Nawawi and others is that it is not forbidden and does not fall under the prohibition.

Imam Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim (2.50), commenting on the hadith, “There is nothing from a man who calls himself by other than his father except unbelief (kufr),” says, “The meaning of, calls himself by other than his father is ascribes himself to him and takes him as his father.” This implies that the one who does not take him as a father has not called himself by other than his father.

The great scholar Ibn ‘Allan al-Siddiqi says in his commentary on Riyad al-Salihin (8.614) in “The Chapter of Forbidden Matters” while talking about the above hadith,

“This means that he also intends to negate his paternal lineage from himself, for otherwise, if he is commonly known through the lineage of his grandfather or of the one who adopted him, for example, and he then ascribes himself to that because of its common knowledge among people, not intending to negate it from his own lineage, then the warning mentioned below does not apply to him.”

Amjad Rasheed

Amman, Jordan

(Translated by Hamza Karamali).

This is the same ruling in the Hanafi school, as understood from Imam Ayni’s commentary on Bukhari (Umdat al-Qari, 16.80)

ur_yusra
27-06-07, 02:06 PM
Sisters don't change your surnames.. there is no need.

MMS
27-06-07, 02:19 PM
i like my daddys name :D

Arifa
27-06-07, 02:29 PM
My surname is my deen...no one can take that away from me :freedom:

Cristiana
27-06-07, 03:28 PM
wasalaam

i looked into this a little while back and there are many fatwas. and it seems that the fatwas and options of scholars i read all seem to say that the name should not be changed after marriage.

the wife should keep her fathers name and it is a non muslim tradition to change the name after marriage.
the only part i am not sure about is if the wife was not named after her father in the first place.

I read this too, if I remember correctly it has affinity with the prohibition of changing an orphan's surname when you foster him/her.

I didn't change mine also because in Italy women never change it:up:

angel*
27-06-07, 04:05 PM
IM gona keep mine inshaAllah :)
I always thought the idea of having my husbands name is really nice.. because i am now a part of him.. but the fact is.. i will always be my father's daughter and on the day of Qiyamah will be called by that name!
Think i'll be the first in my family to keep it though :D

:up: *nods in agreement*

sis_niqabi
27-06-07, 04:06 PM
salam

the woman taking her husbands surname is a Christan tradition. so we should separate ourselves of that and keep our surnames when getting married

ify
27-06-07, 04:47 PM
:up: *nods in agreement*
yeh, i thnk im gona keep ma surnme th same...!! :Insha:

Supernova Nebula
28-06-07, 06:18 AM
Neither is my father a millionaire nor a famous person, I love him with all my heart and I will love my husband with all my heart but WILL NEVER take my husband's surname, coz it will deeply hurt my father's feelings. After all, why should one do it? its not islamic anyway.

Songbird
28-06-07, 06:56 AM
Exactly sis.

We're Muslimahs and as Muslimahs, Allah swt give us many rights upon entering a marriage - from keeping all the property/possessions we own to the retaining of our surname.