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Sulaiman Harun
27-06-07, 04:46 AM
What if you don't marry?
:start:
:salams
:alhumdull
What if a person doesn't marry his/her entire life eventhough he/she has the ability to do so? I know after marriage you have completed half of your deen. But if you just don't marry, then will you have any deficiency in your IMAN?
:jkk:
:wswrwb:
Songbird
27-06-07, 04:51 AM
We are strongly encouraged to marry in Islam - look at what the Qur'an says.
Having said that, not every Muslim is able to.
I've gone blank - who is the famous scholar that never married?
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 04:59 AM
Why suliamon you having second thoughts about marriage???? Your still young bro, you got school to worry about first :D
Sulaiman Harun
27-06-07, 05:26 AM
Not to be rude or anything but brother boss I HAVE FINISHED MY SCHOOL!!
Sulaiman Harun
27-06-07, 05:27 AM
We are strongly encouraged to marry in Islam - look at what the Qur'an says.
Having said that, not every Muslim is able to.
I've gone blank - who is the famous scholar that never married?
Someone told me that Imam Bukhari didn't marry <scratches head>
Ottoman
27-06-07, 05:29 AM
that is good topic. so it is not fard to get married..?
Songbird
27-06-07, 05:32 AM
Someone told me that Imam Bukhari didn't marry <scratches head>
Could be. He was a very esteemed scholar, Rahim Allah - I know that much.
Anyone?
Songbird
27-06-07, 05:34 AM
that is good topic. so it is not fard to get married..?
I don't think it's quite that simple akhi.
One thing we do know is that it's strongly recommended - ie half your Iman is completed.
But you could be a sister/brother forever meeting unsuitable matches and if it's not in your Qadr, I can't see why Allah swt [Most Merciful that He is] would punish you for that.
ammarcool
27-06-07, 05:43 AM
:wswrwb:
MARRIAGE IN ISLAM.
Islam, unlike other religions is a strong advocate of marriage. There is no place for celibacy like, for example the Roman Catholic priests and nuns. The prophet (pbuh) has said "there is no celibacy in Islam.
Marriage is a religious duty and is consequently a moral safeguard as well as a social necessity. Islam does not equal celibacy with high "taqwa" / "Iman". The prophet has also said, "Marriage is my tradition who so ever keeps away there from is not from amongst me".
Marriage acts as an outlet for sexual needs and regulate it so one does not become a slave to his/ her desires.
It is a social necessity because through marriage, families are established and the family is the fundamental unit of our society. Furthermore, marriage is the only legitimate or halal way to indulge in intimacy between a man and a woman.
Islam takes a middle of the road position to sexual relations , it neither condemns it like certain religions, nor does it allow it freely. Islam urges us to control and regulate our desires, whatever they may be so that we remain dignified and not become like animals.
The purpose of Marriage.
The word "zawj" is used in the Qur'an to mean a pair or a mate. In general it usage refers to marriage. The general purpose of marriage is that the sexes can provide company to one another, love to one another, procreate children and live in peace and tranquility to the commandments of Allah.
* Marriage serves as a means to emotional and sexual gratification and as a means of tension reduction. It is also a form of Ibadah because it is obeying Allah and his messenger - i.e. Marriage is seen as the only possible way for the sexes to unite. One could choose to live in sin, however by choosing marriage one is displaying obedience to Allah.
Marriage is "mithaq" - a solemn covenant (agreement). It is not a matter which can be taken lightly. It should be entered into with total commitment and full knowledge of what it involves. It is not like buying a new dress where you can exchange it if you don't like it. Your partner should be your choice for life. One should be mature enough to understand the demands of marriage so that the union can be a lasting one.
for more details Marriage in Islam (http://www.jannah.org/sisters/marr.html)
RashidD
27-06-07, 05:43 AM
We are strongly encouraged to marry in Islam - look at what the Qur'an says.
Having said that, not every Muslim is able to.
I've gone blank - who is the famous scholar that never married?
If i'm not mistaken it might be Shaykh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimahullah) but don't quote me on that...
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 05:46 AM
Not to be rude or anything but brother boss I HAVE FINISHED MY SCHOOL!!
Oh ok sorry :(, you still got uni though :D
Songbird
27-06-07, 05:51 AM
For some odd reason I can't quote Ammarcool.
Either way, nice post and a good reminder brother.
Why wont it allow me to quote it though?
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 05:53 AM
For some odd reason I can't quote Ammarcool.
Either way, nice post and a good reminder brother.
Why wont it allow me to quote it though?
Thats sad you don't know how to quote yet, look at how many posts you have :torture:
Songbird
27-06-07, 05:55 AM
Shut your cheeky mouth and answer the question please :D
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 06:01 AM
Shut your cheeky mouth and answer the question please :D
How can i shut my cheeky mouth and answer you at the same time :scratch:
Anyways have you tried logging out and than re-loggin in???
I think its very selfish to get marry only to complete your duty and after that ruin the other's life. Because you can play theatre for x time but after that she/he will feel you are not completely engage in marriage.
Lambo5688
27-06-07, 06:05 AM
Isn't it true that if you think you are able to keep away from haraam relationships and actions, you do not have to marry.
Sulaiman Harun
27-06-07, 06:06 AM
neeeeeeeewo!! Its a Sunnah which is to be followed!
Songbird
27-06-07, 06:06 AM
I think its very selfish to get marry only to complete your duty and after that ruin the other's life. Because you can play theatre for x time but after that she/he will feel you are not completely engage in marriage.
Selfish?
Our entire reason for being here is to serve God. Ain't nothin' selfish in that.
Sorry I don't understand the rest of the paragraph.
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 06:08 AM
neeeeeeeewo!! Its a Sunnah which is to be followed!
Yeah if your capable and of course it's highly recommended :D
We are strongly encouraged to marry in Islam - look at what the Qur'an says.
Having said that, not every Muslim is able to.
I've gone blank - who is the famous scholar that never married?
Could be. He was a very esteemed scholar, Rahim Allah - I know that much.
Anyone?
Imam Nawawi (Ra), I think Imam Bukhari (Ra) too ...
Sulaiman Harun
27-06-07, 07:12 AM
strange isn't it?
$HugoBoss$
27-06-07, 07:14 AM
strange isn't it?
I doubht imam bukhari had time for marriage anyways.......
strange isn't it?
lol, Imam Nawawi (Ra) never hand time to sleep since he was so into his work let alone marriage. He died Pretty young too ... 40 - 45 ... Some say he died young because the lack of sleep he got during his life.
Honey87
27-06-07, 09:11 AM
I think, correct me if i am wrong, but if one has no desire for marriage mentally and physically, and they really do not want to get married they don't have to.
I can't find the thread, but a sister made a thread where she said she had no desire to marry at all, thus it would be makrooh for her to just go and get married with having no desire for it.
I think, correct me if i am wrong, but if one has no desire for marriage mentally and physically, and they really do not want to get married they don't have to.
I can't find the thread, but a sister made a thread where she said she had no desire to marry at all, thus it would be makrooh for her to just go and get married with having no desire for it.
Really? ... Well what if its a revert who has no family ... How would she do Hajj or travel then :eek3:
We are strongly encouraged to marry in Islam - look at what the Qur'an says.
Having said that, not every Muslim is able to.
I've gone blank - who is the famous scholar that never married?
sah ukhti subhanAllah and the hadith too Narrated 'Abdullah
We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatever. So Allah's Apostle said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." sahih al bukhari
Narrated Anas bin Malik
A group of three men came to the houses of the wives of the Prophet asking how the Prophet worshipped (Allah), and when they were informed about that, they considered their worship insufficient and said, "Where are we from the Prophet as his past and future sins have been forgiven." Then one of them said, "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle came to them and said, "Are you the same people who said so-and-so? By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women. So he who does not follow my tradition in religion, is not from me (not one of my followers)." sahih al bukhari
If i'm not mistaken it might be Shaykh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimahullah) but don't quote me on that... yes it was true of ibn taymiyyah rahimAllah, but he had one busy life masha Allah fighting against the tartars, calling people to Islam, teaching his soldiers the correct aqeedah before allowing them on the battle feild, and he was imprisioned several times too ...:lailah:
lol, Imam Nawawi (Ra) never hand time to sleep since he was so into his work let alone marriage. He died Pretty young too ... 40 - 45 ... Some say he died young because the lack of sleep he got during his life. subhanAllah, he used to spend his time in one small room stacked floor to ceiling with books. People said when they visited that u could hardly find space to sit because of all the books piled high in rows on the floor too, and He would fall asleep with his head on the table... subhanAllah such dedication to seeking knowledge..
only if we dint have to :rolleyes:
sis_niqabi
27-06-07, 10:07 AM
salam
i read somewhere that if a person has no sexual desire.then marriage is not fard. but if they do have sexual desire then they should get married. honestly in this day and age, its important for Muslims to get married. because there's so much temptation around. and it's very easy to fall into the haraam as well.
sis_niqabi
27-06-07, 10:10 AM
When is it obligatory for men to get married?
Question:
is it obligatory for men to get married?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
The ruling on marriage for men differs according to their situations and circumstances. Marriage is obligatory on the man who is able to marry and longs to get married, and fears “hardship” otherwise, because it is obligatory for him to protect himself from doing haraam deeds and to keep himself chaste – and this can only be achieved through marriage.
Al-Qurtubi said: if a person is able to marry and fears that he may be harmed or his religious commitment may be adversely affected if he remains single, the only way to prevent this harm is through marriage, and there is no difference of opinion among the scholars – they agree that marriage is obligatory on such a person.
Al-Mardaawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his book Al-Insaaf: Part Three: the one who fears “hardship”. In the case of such a person, marriage is obligatory, and this is the unanimous opinion of the scholars… “Hardship” here means zinaa (fornication), according to the correct opinion. Or it was said that it means being doomed by committing zinaa… What is meant by “Unless he fears that he may fall into committing forbidden actions” means, if he knows or thinks that he will do that. In Al-Furoo’ it says: (marriage) becomes obligatory only when he is sure that he will do that. (Al-Insaaf, part 8; Kitaab al-Nikaah, Ahkaam al-Nikaah).
If he wants to get married but is unable to spend on a wife, then he should adhere to the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):
“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allâh enriches them of His Bounty” [al-Noor 24:33]
So he should fast a lot, because of the hadeeth narrated from Ibn Mas’ood who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O young people, whoever among you can afford to get married, let him do so, for it helps one to lower the gaze and protect the private parts (i.e., remain chaste). Whoever cannot afford it, let him fast, for it is a protection for him.”
‘Umar said to Abu’l-Zawaa’id: “Nothing is stopping you from getting married except incapacity or immorality.” (See Fiqh Al-Sunnah, 2/15-17)
Marriage is obligatory on anyone who is single and committing sin such as looking or kissing. If a man or women knows or thinks it most likely that if he does not get married he will commit zinaa – or whatever comes under the same rulings or is similar to it, such as masturbation, then marriage is obligatory. It is still obligatory even if a person knows that he will still commit sin after marriage, because once he is married he will be less likely to commit sin, because he will be distracted from it at least part of the time, whereas if he remains single he will commit sin all the time.
Anyone who looks at the state of things in our times, how there is so much immorality and so much temptation, will be convinced that the obligation to marry is even more important now than at any time in the past. We ask Allaah to purify our hearts, keep us away from haraam things and help us to be chaste. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.
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sis_niqabi
27-06-07, 10:12 AM
Is it obligatory for a woman to get married?
Question:
Is it obligatory for a woman to get married?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
In response to your question, we will look briefly at what some of the Muslim fuqahaa’ have written on this topic. In Mawaahib al-Jaleel it was said: “Marriage is obligatory for a woman who is unable to feed or clothe herself unless she gets married.” In al-Sharh al-Kabeer, concerning obligatory marriage it says: “If a person fears that he may commit fornication, it (marriage) is obligatory on him.” In Fath al-Wahhaab, it says: “For the woman who has (physical) desires, marriage is sunnah, just as it is for the one who needs maintenance and the one who fears being taken advantage of by immoral persons.”
In Mughni al-Muhtaaj, it says: “(Marriage) becomes waajib (obligatory) if a person fears fornication… And it was said that it becomes obligatory if a person has made a vow (nadhr) to get married.” Then concerning the ruling with regard to women: “If she needs to get married, i.e., she has physical desires, or needs maintenance, or she is afraid that immoral people may take advantage of her… it is preferable (mustahabb) for her to get married, because this will protect her religion and her chastity, and she can enjoy what her husband spends on her, and other advantages.”
Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his book al-Mughni: “Our colleagues differed as to whether marriage is obligatory. The best-known opinion in our madhhab is that it is not obligatory, except when a person is afraid of committing a forbidden deed if he does not marry. In that case he should make himself chaste (i.e. get married). This is the opinion of the majority of fuqahaa’.”
When it comes to marriage, people are of three types, one of which is those who fear that they may commit forbidden deeds if they do not get married. It is obligatory for such people to get married, according to the majority of fuqahaa’, because it is obligatory for them to make themselves chaste and protect themselves from haraam. In Subul al-Salaam it says: “Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed said that some of the fuqahaa’ said that marriage is obligatory for the one who fears sin or hardship (because of suppressing physical desires) and is able to marry… and it is obligatory for the one who cannot avoid fornication unless he gets married.”
In Badaa’i’ al-Sanaa’i’, it says: “There is no dispute that marriage is an obligation when desire is strong. If a person has such a strong desire for women that he cannot be patient, and he can afford to pay the mahr (dowry) and support a wife, then if he does not get married, he is a sinner.”
From the above discussion, we can see a number of situations in which marriage is obligatory. You might ask: “How can we imagine a woman fulfilling this obligation when usually it is the man who goes around knocking on doors looking for a partner? This is not the woman’s role.” The answer is: what a woman can do to fulfil this command is not to refuse marriage when a suitable, compatible man comes with an offer of marriage.
Muslim women and men need to understand the high status which marriage has in Islam, so that they will be more keen to marry. There follows a useful summary on this topic by Imaam Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdisi (may Allaah have mercy on him), from his book al-Mughni:
The basis of the legitimacy of marriage is the Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa’ (consensus of the scholars). In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings): ‘… marry women of your choice, two or three, or four…’ [al-Nisaa’ 4:3] and ‘And marry those among you who are single and (also marry) the saalihoon (pious, fit and capable ones) of your (male) slaves and maid-servants (female slaves)…’ [al-Noor 24:32]. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O young men! Whoever among you can afford it, let him get married, for this will lower his gaze and protect his chastity. Whoever cannot (get married), then let him fast, for fasting will be a protection for him.” (Agreed upon). There are many other ayaat and reports like these. The Muslims agree that marriage is legitimate.
Ibn Mas’ood said: “If I only had ten days left to live, and I knew that I would die at the end of them, and I was able to get married, I would do so, for fear of fitnah (temptation).”
Ibn ‘Abbaas said to Sa’eed ibn Jubayr: “Get married, for the best of this ummah are those who have more wives.” Ibraaheem ibn Maysarah said: “Taawoos said to me: ‘Either you get married, or I will say to you what ‘Umar said to Abu’l-Zawaa’id: There is nothing stopping you from getting married but either impotence or immorality!’ According to al-Mirwadhi, Ahmad said: ‘Celibacy has nothing to do with Islam. Whoever calls you not to get married is calling you to something other than Islam.’”
Then he said (may Allaah have mercy on him):
The benefits of marriage are many. They include: protecting one’s religion and helping one to adhere to it; protecting and taking care of women; and producing offspring and increasing the ranks of the ummah, thus achieving the pride of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), etc. [Translator’s note: there is a hadeeth which indicates that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will feel proud of the large numbers of his ummah in the Hereaster, so Muslims are encouraged to marry and have many children.]
It should now be clear that the benefits of marriage are many. No wise Muslim woman would hesitate to get married, especially if an offer of marriage comes from a person who is strongly committed to Islam and is possessed of a good character and morals.
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Believer1984
27-06-07, 04:47 PM
single life = Insane.
I encourage all brothers and sisters to get married. Insha-allah. :o
sometimes i think i'd like to be one of those people :smack:
Peacenik
27-06-07, 06:09 PM
single life = Insane.
I encourage all brothers and sisters to get married. Insha-allah. :o
Easier said than done.
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 07:36 PM
You don't have to marry if you don't want to, and beware, there are two fabricated hadith that state marrige is half your deen, and that the worst thing to allah is divorse. Watch out for those. And remember, muslims are ordered to forbid the evil and enjoin the good.
But, i will say this, if you need to get married to protect yourself..then you must get married so that you do not sin, and if you have control over yourself, then you are ready for marrige, and you should get married. Marrige is a good thing, but it is NOT enforced or an obligation.
If one wants to take a scholarly path in life, it is best to not get married, as it will take up too much of your time.
Abu Mus'ab
27-06-07, 07:46 PM
You don't have to marry if you don't want to, and beware, there are two fabricated hadith that state marrige is half your deen, and that the worst thing to allah is divorse. Watch out for those. And remember, muslims are ordered to forbid the evil and enjoin the good.
But, i will say this, if you need to get married to protect yourself..then you must get married so that you do not sin, and if you have control over yourself, then you are ready for marrige, and you should get married. Marrige is a good thing, but it is NOT enforced or an obligation.
If one wants to take a scholarly path in life, it is best to not get married, as it will take up too much of your time.
Fabricated my foot, what do you know, you aint a muhaddith to be declaring hadith as fabricated :rolleyes:
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 08:03 PM
Fabricated my foot, what do you know, you aint a muhaddith to be declaring hadith as fabricated :rolleyes:
I am stateing what is commonly known amoung the ummah. Just like it is commonly known that achohol is forbidden, and that woman are obligated to wear hijab.
If i say a woman must wear hijab, are you going to tell me i'm not a mushtahid, and that i can't make judgements?
tux08902
27-06-07, 08:22 PM
Really? ... Well what if its a revert who has no family ... How would she do Hajj or travel then :eek3:
You and I both know the rules, but even Saudi Arabia, the country that makes Hajj/Umrah arrangements doesn't really follow them. Saudi Arabia has a group Hajj/Umrah where you have a guide that helps a group of women. I found out about this last year when one of my mom's friends did this. So, weird things are happening, things that are clearly violating Islamic prinicples.
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 08:28 PM
You and I both know the rules, but even Saudi Arabia, the country that makes Hajj/Umrah arrangements doesn't really follow them. Saudi Arabia has a group Hajj/Umrah where you have a guide that helps a group of women. I found out about this last year when one of my mom's friends did this. So, weird things are happening, things that are clearly violating Islamic prinicples.
The saudi family runs saudi arabia, what did you expect?
Abu Mus'ab
27-06-07, 08:37 PM
I am stateing what is commonly known amoung the ummah. Just like it is commonly known that achohol is forbidden, and that woman are obligated to wear hijab.
If i say a woman must wear hijab, are you going to tell me i'm not a mushtahid, and that i can't make judgements?
You are stating nonsense thats all.
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 08:53 PM
No i am stateing something you by yourself perosnally disagree with, and all i will say is that, that is you, and to you your own. but don't bash someone else when they do what they are commanded. Allah commanded us to forbid the evil and enjoin the good, there is a misconception about these two fabricated hadith, and it is an obligation for me to say something about it. Don't get mad at other muslims when they follow the order of Allah.
Abu Mus'ab
27-06-07, 09:02 PM
No i am stateing something you by yourself perosnally disagree with, and all i will say is that, that is you, and to you your own. but don't bash someone else when they do what they are commanded. Allah commanded us to forbid the evil and enjoin the good, there is a misconception about these two fabricated hadith, and it is an obligation for me to say something about it. Don't get mad at other muslims when they follow the order of Allah.
Don't give me that nonsense, show me where and when that hadith has become fabricated.
And don't give me a dumb reply like you did last time, the Qur'an and hadith are not the same, then entire Qur'an is sahih, or do you have sahih, hasan, dhaeef and mawdu ayah in your qur'an?
wooo!..calm down folks...
in reply to those that are saying that one should not marry if one does not have desire...like isnt one of the main purposes of marriage to procreate and increase the ummah?...i dont think there are many people nowadays that lack desire...
And also didnt our beloved Prophet marry so that he could increase the ummah and not for desire?....Correct me if i am mistaken..:) jzk
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:18 PM
We are not talking about the Quran Either. None of those two hadith have any relevance to the Quran. Either.
The proof those hadith are fabricates is in the fact that they are in no classicaly published hadith book of the 6 major books of hadith. [classicly as in during the time of Imam Bukhari, and Imam Muslim....]
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:19 PM
wooo!..calm down folks...
in reply to those that are saying that one should not marry if one does not have desire...like isnt one of the main purposes of marriage to procreate and increase the ummah?...i dont think there are many people nowadays that lack desire...
And also didnt our beloved Prophet marry so that he could increase the ummah and not for desire?....Correct me if i am mistaken..:) jzk
Yes, but he didn't say it was an obligation either. Its Sunnah. And it is not only about desire, if someone has plans to become a mushtahid, marrige is only a burden on them. Not everyone has a sexual desire, yes. Though this is not the only reason to marry. But it is the most common one. As for increaeing the Ummah, this is done by teaching the non-muslims about islam and inshallah they becomeing muslims.
wooo!..calm down folks...
in reply to those that are saying that one should not marry if one does not have desire...like isnt one of the main purposes of marriage to procreate and increase the ummah?...i dont think there are many people nowadays that lack desire...
And also didnt our beloved Prophet marry so that he could increase the ummah and not for desire?....Correct me if i am mistaken..:) jzk
the marriage's basic aim is procreation at least that's what a muslim thinks and it is not for enjoyment or desire as such .
You don't have to marry if you don't want to, and beware, there are two fabricated hadith that state marrige is half your deen, and that the worst thing to allah is divorse. Watch out for those. And remember, muslims are ordered to forbid the evil and enjoin the good.
But, i will say this, if you need to get married to protect yourself..then you must get married so that you do not sin, and if you have control over yourself, then you are ready for marrige, and you should get married. Marrige is a good thing, but it is NOT enforced or an obligation.
If one wants to take a scholarly path in life, it is best to not get married, as it will take up too much of your time.
:rubeyes: ??..sorry gotta disagree with you on that one, so many people i knw have mashallah taken a scholarly path in life and are happily married...we should all strive for knowledge day after day but this does not mean that all other aspects of life should be excluded...u make it seem that marriage is a burden?...
Yes, but he didn't say it was an obligation either. Its Sunnah. And it is not only about desire, if someone has plans to become a mushtahid, marrige is only a burden on them. Not everyone has a sexual desire, yes. Though this is not the only reason to marry. But it is the most common one. As for increaeing the Ummah, this is done by teaching the non-muslims about islam and inshallah they becomeing muslims.
Exactly its Sunnah, and as muslims we should follow the qur'an and our Prophets guidance as the perfect way of life!
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:26 PM
MArrige is a burden on seeking knowlage. Seeking knowlage is a 24 hour thing, marrige takes away from that time in the form of dealing with the wife and her needs, while someone is preoccupied with this, when the could spend that time learning and seeking knowlage. This is common sense people...marrige as not a little thing, and if you have a family, well..good luck. Less responsibility in your life makes it alot easyer to learn.
MArrige is a burden on seeking knowlage. Seeking knowlage is a 24 hour thing, marrige takes away from that time in the form of dealing with the wife and her needs, while someone is preoccupied with this, when the could spend that time learning and seeking knowlage. This is common sense people...marrige as not a little thing, and if you have a family, well..good luck. Less responsibility in your life makes it alot easyer to learn.
and what you will learn without marriage ?
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:33 PM
Alot,..your question should be "How can marrige help your islamic studies?"...it doesn't. I am guessing none of you are married, as you obviously don't see how marrige takes up most of your time. That could otherwise be spent studying.
*Al-Qadr*
27-06-07, 09:34 PM
"What if you don't get married"
Then that is what Allaah willed for you in this life.
Islam is practical religion . Iman and knowledge is not aquired just by reading books but rather practicing them . and marriage helps a man to be more resposible and sincere to the deen but then no one is responsible for things beyond means .
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:41 PM
Also, to correct myself, the hadith about divorce is not fabricated, but it is not Sahih either. And it is a special case with reguards to the meaning of it.
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:42 PM
Islam is practical religion . Iman and knowledge is not aquired just by reading books but rather practicing them . and marriage helps a man to be more resposible and sincere to the deen but then no one is responsible for things beyond means .
Knowlage does not come with books period, the method for attaining mushtahid is by learning from a chaine of mushtahids that can relate back to Rasululah Books are mainly used in reference, as, in islam, knowlage is passed Orally, not through books. It is the way of the sahabah and the generations thereafter. And also, Rasululah taught by speaking, and that it how it has been and should be done...diveing into books without guidence by yourself is very dangerous, as you will develop judgements based on what you read, and you have no teacher to correct you if you make a mistake. [same goes for Quran, one should not try to learn islam by makeing judgeemnts based off what they read in the Mushaf, it is the cause for so many deviants made fmaous in todays world.]
heaven2002
27-06-07, 09:43 PM
mat ul hayinan- does this mean uv decided to never get married?
Tax-Man
27-06-07, 09:48 PM
if you dont marry you'll be having alot of cold showers
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 09:49 PM
Nah, i want to, i want a family and companionship..but i also don't desire to be a scholar either. I seek to just do what Allah commands, and wait for my time to come. I just don't want people to think thier prsuit of knowlage will be equal when they are married from when they weren't. You will not be able to study like you did unmarried. Its just a fact of life.
Oh my!!:eek: I don't even want to think about that...
That is a bit scary! :nervous:
We are not talking about the Quran Either. None of those two hadith have any relevance to the Quran. Either.
The proof those hadith are fabricates is in the fact that they are in no classicaly published hadith book of the 6 major books of hadith. [classicly as in during the time of Imam Bukhari, and Imam Muslim....]
Listen if you have the means to marry and you don't, then according to the Hadith of Rasul :saw: you not among his followers...
also you are far more likely to indulge in Zina...
it is virtually impossible to remain a Bachellor your entire life without indulging in Zina or it's related filthy acts...
Nah, i want to, i want a family and companionship..but i also don't desire to be a scholar either. I seek to just do what Allah commands, and wait for my time to come. I just don't want people to think thier prsuit of knowlage will be equal when they are married from when they weren't. You will not be able to study like you did unmarried. Its just a fact of life.
this is a joke right? :rolleyes:
Many people have married and studied and are successful in their respective fields of study, just because you are incapable of studying and having a family doesn't mean everyone is incapable like you...
mat_al_haiyuwan
27-06-07, 11:42 PM
Its not a matter of ability, its a matter of facts, the fact is, if you are married, you will spend less time studying.
You cannot spend time with your shiekh, and with your wife, all the time, you will have to divide the time eventually...but, if you arn't married, you can spend every minute with your sheikh..
Now, if you tell me that both ways will give you the same level of knowlage, i will say you are insane.
Sulaiman Harun
28-06-07, 03:47 AM
What if a person is too shy to get married? (And no I am not asking for myself. This is for brother Raziel especially)
Believer1984
28-06-07, 04:30 AM
What if a person is too shy to get married? (And no I am not asking for myself. This is for brother Raziel especially)
Then get married in a register office. :o
When i was young my thinking was the same but when u hit early 20's you gain maturity and God takes care if you remember him.
Sulaiman Harun
28-06-07, 04:39 AM
what do you mean register office?
Tax-Man
28-06-07, 04:40 AM
you can spend every minute with your sheikh.. The Prophet was the biggest scholar and he was married, the sahaba were among the best of the ummah vast majority were married. I think your being naive no one spends 24/7 studying.
mat_al_haiyuwan
28-06-07, 05:23 AM
THe prophet didn't study. He recived revelation from Allah via angel jibril. And the companions didn't study because well..they heard the revelation from Prophet Muhammad. And many scholars who did get married, were already at a scholarly level before hand. There are probably less people in this world today who are at a scholarly level before the age of 25ish than i can count on 1 hand.
This world today is not like the world of then, now, it takes most people YEARS to become remotely 'scholarly', and if your married, you might aswell double that time.
but, for the classical scholars, most of them were shcolars before puberty, so when it was time for them to actually get married, well, they knew most of the knowlage there is to know.
People who plan on getting married in this age, useualy don't even know the basics of islam yet. Much less be anywhere even REMOTELY near a sheikh level...much less a scholarly level.
The classical scholars did not get to where they are while being married, they got to where they were in a time in their life when they had NO responsbility, they did not have to work, they were not married, they did pretty much nothing but learn from a sheikh.
A persons knowlage will never be equal to the one who taught him the knowlage. And as each generation comes, it gets hard and hard to attain that knowlage. My advise, if you truely have a scholarly presuit...i would not advise getting married. MArriges are not perfect. Infact, they will probably bring more problems than if you weren't married. Because now you actually have to support someone, you have to work now aswell, you can't work/spent time with your wife/spend time with your kids/ and scrape up what little time you have left in your day to learn...and actually expect to get anywhere realisticly. You can learn the basics and what you need to be an obediant muslim [you should know all this before your married anyways, if you yourself have not even mastered the basics, how can you expect to keep your famly on the right path if you yourself arn't even complete.] maby, but anything beyond requires more work in this age than you think. And i don't see how being amrried will help or will even not slow down this process.
Songbird
28-06-07, 06:42 AM
if you dont marry you'll be having alot of cold showers
Erm, oh never mind.
:ban:
Songbird
28-06-07, 06:46 AM
The Prophet was the biggest scholar and he was married, the sahaba were among the best of the ummah vast majority were married. I think your being naive no one spends 24/7 studying.
Can someone dig up that Hadith about moderation?
I mean the Prophet sAw himself said to enjoy your wives etc.
The most perfect man on earth didn't even devote himself to worship/study 24/7 folks!
Oh and to Mr mat_al_haiyuwan, intimate relations with your spouse is an act of worship so if you choose not to marry and not indulge your future spouse in the realms of you know what, that's one act of worship you can't fulfill so there :p
ammarcool
28-06-07, 06:50 AM
THe prophet didn't study. He recived revelation from Allah via angel jibril. And the companions didn't study because well..they heard the revelation from Prophet Muhammad. And many scholars who did get married, were already at a scholarly level before hand. There are probably less people in this world today who are at a scholarly level before the age of 25ish than i can count on 1 hand.
This world today is not like the world of then, now, it takes most people YEARS to become remotely 'scholarly', and if your married, you might aswell double that time.
but, for the classical scholars, most of them were shcolars before puberty, so when it was time for them to actually get married, well, they knew most of the knowlage there is to know.
People who plan on getting married in this age, useualy don't even know the basics of islam yet. Much less be anywhere even REMOTELY near a sheikh level...much less a scholarly level.
The classical scholars did not get to where they are while being married, they got to where they were in a time in their life when they had NO responsbility, they did not have to work, they were not married, they did pretty much nothing but learn from a sheikh.
A persons knowlage will never be equal to the one who taught him the knowlage. And as each generation comes, it gets hard and hard to attain that knowlage. My advise, if you truely have a scholarly presuit...i would not advise getting married. MArriges are not perfect. Infact, they will probably bring more problems than if you weren't married. Because now you actually have to support someone, you have to work now aswell, you can't work/spent time with your wife/spend time with your kids/ and scrape up what little time you have left in your day to learn...and actually expect to get anywhere realisticly. You can learn the basics and what you need to be an obediant muslim [you should know all this before your married anyways, if you yourself have not even mastered the basics, how can you expect to keep your famly on the right path if you yourself arn't even complete.] maby, but anything beyond requires more work in this age than you think. And i don't see how being amrried will help or will even not slow down this process.
The prophet (PBUH) said, "Marriage is my tradition who so ever keeps away there from is not from amongst me".
Songbird
28-06-07, 06:52 AM
THe prophet didn't study. He recived revelation from Allah via angel jibril. And the companions didn't study because well..they heard the revelation from Prophet Muhammad. And many scholars who did get married, were already at a scholarly level before hand. There are probably less people in this world today who are at a scholarly level before the age of 25ish than i can count on 1 hand.
This world today is not like the world of then, now, it takes most people YEARS to become remotely 'scholarly', and if your married, you might aswell double that time.
but, for the classical scholars, most of them were shcolars before puberty, so when it was time for them to actually get married, well, they knew most of the knowlage there is to know.
People who plan on getting married in this age, useualy don't even know the basics of islam yet. Much less be anywhere even REMOTELY near a sheikh level...much less a scholarly level.
The classical scholars did not get to where they are while being married, they got to where they were in a time in their life when they had NO responsbility, they did not have to work, they were not married, they did pretty much nothing but learn from a sheikh.
A persons knowlage will never be equal to the one who taught him the knowlage. And as each generation comes, it gets hard and hard to attain that knowlage. My advise, if you truely have a scholarly presuit...i would not advise getting married. MArriges are not perfect. Infact, they will probably bring more problems than if you weren't married. Because now you actually have to support someone, you have to work now aswell, you can't work/spent time with your wife/spend time with your kids/ and scrape up what little time you have left in your day to learn...and actually expect to get anywhere realisticly. You can learn the basics and what you need to be an obediant muslim [you should know all this before your married anyways, if you yourself have not even mastered the basics, how can you expect to keep your famly on the right path if you yourself arn't even complete.] maby, but anything beyond requires more work in this age than you think. And i don't see how being amrried will help or will even not slow down this process.
And just to remind the Muslims and non-Muslims on this board, this person is not a Sheikh nor a Scholar and I personally would be very careful in even reading what he has to say.
Read Ash Shifah brother and come back to us with what you've learned.
Most of you all are young people in, thank God, good health and almost all of you were certainly born with very fine or near-perfect bodies.
Just as not all people are born into wealthy or middle-class families, not all people have bodies that are healthy, fit, and work wonderfully well.
In other words, you must be very careful when judging or asking why a person might choose never to marry.
You are prying into the most intimate aspect of a person's life.
Almost everyone looks forward to marriage and children, and the particularly wonderful hope of grandchildren and, for the very, very fortunate, great-grandchildren.
These are wonderful, spectacular things. Most people desire them with all their heart.
However.
You must understand that sometimes people are born with imperfect bodies or sometimes suffer injury or illness that would make intimacy between husband and wife either very difficult or impossible.
Given that almost everyone desires marriage and children, you must understand how painful it must be for people who for whatever physical reason should find it very difficult or impossible to marry.
The Prophet (pbuh) and His message didn't visit humanity in order that such people should be tormented or made to feel somehow less valuable than others.
Think before you speak. Don't be quick to judge.
Above all, learn to be grateful to Almighty God for your good health and the many opportunities you enjoy, without ever really thinking about it, as a result of your good health.
mat_al_haiyuwan
28-06-07, 12:14 PM
And just to remind the Muslims and non-Muslims on this board, this person is not a Sheikh nor a Scholar and I personally would be very careful in even reading what he has to say.
Read Ash Shifah brother and come back to us with what you've learned.
I don't have to be a sheikh to tell you marrige slows down the learning process. Please don't lie to the people and tell them it doesn't. There is not need togive people misinformation and false hopes.
Abu Mus'ab
28-06-07, 01:06 PM
We are not talking about the Quran Either. None of those two hadith have any relevance to the Quran. Either.
The proof those hadith are fabricates is in the fact that they are in no classicaly published hadith book of the 6 major books of hadith. [classicly as in during the time of Imam Bukhari, and Imam Muslim....]
You are seriously dense.
1: You were the one who compared the Qur'an to the Ahadith, not me.
2: It's Mujtahid not mushtahid
3: And you're wrong about mujtahid too, it's a muhaddith who works with ahadith.
4: First you make a baseless claim thatr the ahadith are fabricated now you say they're not fabricated? make up your mind, and this is the "knowledge" that you are spreading? pathetic.
mat_al_haiyuwan
28-06-07, 06:58 PM
Who don't you stop pointing out what you think are flaws in others, and stop acting like a Yahood[jew]. If you feel you are right, then act like a muslim, and put forth your correction.
1. Who did that?
2. No, its an arabic word that has many english translation. The pronounciation is the same, with either word you use.
3. Its a mushtahid that studies Quran and Hadith and makes islamic judgemnets.
4. Firstly, the first one is fabricated, and the second one is used imporperly by so called "scholars" of islam, like al-bani wal mushebihah.
Its not a matter of ability, its a matter of facts, the fact is, if you are married, you will spend less time studying.
You cannot spend time with your shiekh, and with your wife, all the time, you will have to divide the time eventually...but, if you arn't married, you can spend every minute with your sheikh..
Now, if you tell me that both ways will give you the same level of knowlage, i will say you are insane.
:rolleyes: You have to divide the time out anyway... even if your single, so that was absurd post, it did you no good in supporting your claim ...
No you can't spend every minute with your Sheikh :smack:
there are so many other things a person needs to do like study, goto Uni, work etc...
time with the Sheikh will have to be limited...
The level of Knowledge you acquire, is dependent upon effort, and determination ...
it is lame to blame Marriage, for your Incapability to put sufficient effort to learn something... :rubeyes:
you need to learn the meaning of the Word before you allege Insanity on anyone...
your Impotency to learn and live a married life is not shared by others ...
this is your weakness, assuming everyone else is like you is plain silly ...
Who don't you stop pointing out what you think are flaws in others, and stop acting like a Yahood[jew]. If you feel you are right, then act like a muslim, and put forth your correction.
1. Who did that?
2. No, its an arabic word that has many english translation. The pronounciation is the same, with either word you use.
3. Its a mushtahid that studies Quran and Hadith and makes islamic judgemnets.
4. Firstly, the first one is fabricated, and the second one is used imporperly by so called "scholars" of islam, like al-bani wal mushebihah.
listen you just joined the forum, I suggest you don't go calling any Muslim a Yahood...
Nauzubillah!
and shut your gob!
you have no authority to call any Muhadith a so called Scholar...
I'm guessing your in your teens thats why you think your a know it all... :rubeyes:
an absolute disgrace...
sunrise
28-06-07, 09:45 PM
What if a person is too shy to get married? (And no I am not asking for myself. This is for brother Raziel especially)
he's getting married:up: inshAllah
r u sure its not u who is shy :outta:
:salams
if i dont ever get married, inshaAllah ima set up an orphanage.. inshaAllah (cept i dont want them ever to leave me :()
:salams
if i dont ever get married, inshaAllah ima set up an orphanage.. inshaAllah (cept i dont want them ever to leave me :()
:rotfl::rotfl:yeh me n jihan keep sayin the same fing
we told our mum our plans of not getting married and opening an orphanage, she wasnt very impressed :o
:rotfl::rotfl:yeh me n jihan keep sayin the same fing
we told our mum our plans of not getting married and opening an orphanage, she wasnt very impressed :o
:salams but ur mum must understand FOR U its like REALITY in it:rolleyes:
Like cumon..first of all ur a city'er and then ITS U!!
What if a person is too shy to get married? (And no I am not asking for myself. This is for brother Raziel especially)
If he can support a Muslimah (as a Family), he should get married...
I don't know the reference bro, but there is a Hadith which states that those who don't (even though they are able to marry and support a family) are not of the Followers of Muhammad :saw:
In this regard, I'm shy too bro...
:jkk:
he's getting married:up: inshAllah
r u sure its not u who is shy :outta:
He is sis... :o
May Allah likewise give him a Pious Muslimah aka Coolsis :coolsis:
:jkk:
ur_yusra
28-06-07, 10:54 PM
The majority opinion is that marriage is mustahab and not fardh.. therefore if you do not marry that is your prerogative and you will not be doing something haraam.
However if you fear falling into haraam as a result of you not being married then marriage becomes fardh on you. Its as simple as that.
I will trek the world - visiting places, from shanty towns to lakes and forests to skyscraper filled cities :up: Making friends all over the world. Who needs women?
Sulaiman Harun
28-06-07, 11:40 PM
he's getting married:up: inshAllah
r u sure its not u who is shy :outta:
I am actually but this question was general. I said tis question not for me so that brother Raziel won't tease me!! As usual he dos!
Lambo5688
28-06-07, 11:41 PM
I am actually but this question was general. I said tis question not for me so that brother Raziel won't tease me!! As usual he dos!
Your getting married? Mashallah at such a young age! So who is the lucky one? huh? You can tell ummah your little secret.
Sulaiman Harun
28-06-07, 11:44 PM
I wont! Make me!
Lambo5688
28-06-07, 11:50 PM
I wont! Make me!
I dont have to make you. I know you want to get married. No need to be shy brother, its natural. :rotfl:
Sulaiman Harun
28-06-07, 11:50 PM
Don't think that this will make you spill out ....
I am actually but this question was general. I said tis question not for me so that brother Raziel won't tease me!! As usual he dos!
brother Moneeb, I is jokin with ya, I'm shy too, when it comes to marriage etc... :o :outta:
:jkk:
I wont! Make me!
er..... does that mean you are gettin married bro? :D
when is the big day bro? :D
:jkk:
I dont have to make you. I know you want to get married. No need to be shy brother, its natural. :rotfl:
Lambo, you ain't much older than him, you sure you ain't gettin hitched either yourself? :D
:jkk:
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:02 AM
er..... does that mean you are gettin married bro? :D
when is the big day bro? :D
:jkk:
:insha: sometime Allahu A'lam!
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:08 AM
Lambo, you ain't much older than him, you sure you ain't gettin hitched either yourself? :D
:jkk:
No lol. Thats not going to happen.
if i don't marry then i'm gonna become a computer programmer :nerdbro:
No lol. Thats not going to happen.
why not? :D
:jkk:
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:12 AM
if i don't marry then i'm gonna become a computer programmer :nerdbro:.
Get married and become a wife programmer.
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:12 AM
why not? :D
:jkk:
:o
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:13 AM
Use proper words Lambo! <Angry>
if i don't marry then i'm gonna become a computer programmer :nerdbro:
Bilal bhai eee afne kitha koila?!!! :eek: afne Bhia nakole tho oshombob obosta oibo, :o
:jkk:
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:14 AM
:o
sharmilay baccha!! Rumal chahiyay??
.
Get married and become a wife programmer.
they have a difficult API :rotfl:
Bilal bhai eee afne kitha koila?!!! :eek: afne Bhia nakole tho oshombob obosta oibo, :o
:jkk:
hai hai bhai...ami ki kormu...amare jodi keo biya korthe chai na...ami tho ekla pori jaimu :(
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:18 AM
sharmilay baccha!! Rumal chahiyay??
No. The reason is something else.
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:20 AM
ganday bacchay!! bilkul sharam nahi aati bohat buri baat ha!
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:21 AM
ganday bacchay!! bilkul sharam nahi aati bohat buri baat ha!
:rubeyes:
they have a difficult API :rotfl:
lol! whats wrong with their Application Programming Interface? :D
hai hai bhai...ami ki kormu...amare jodi keo biya korthe chai na...ami tho ekla pori jaimu :(
Na, Na, afnare insha'allah ek zon Muslimah, nischoyi bhia korbo, afne foila step nithe hoibo... (the proposal) ... :D
...
:o
Cause you is Shy as well? :D
Muahahahaha! :D and you were laughin at brother Moneeb... :torture: :torture: :torture:
MUahahahaha! :D :rotfl: :outta:
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:24 AM
:rubeyes:
succh kadhwa ho ta hai!
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:25 AM
Cause you is Shy as well? :D
Muahahahaha! :D and you were laughin at brother Moneeb... :torture: :torture: :torture:
MUahahahaha! :D :rotfl: :outta:
brother he is not shy!
brother he is not shy!
He's Not? :eek:
Why did he say that he isn't gettin married then? :o
:jkk:
Maureen
29-06-07, 12:34 AM
What if you don't marry?
:start:
:salams
:alhumdull
What if a person doesn't marry his/her entire life eventhough he/she has the ability to do so? I know after marriage you have completed half of your deen. But if you just don't marry, then will you have any deficiency in your IMAN?
:jkk:
:wswrwb:
I think this is a good topic for non-Muslims too. Many women are choosing now to stay single. I often wonder how they feel when theyget past child-bearing age. I am sure many of them see their mistake but guess I will get a barage of comments from feminists for saying this.
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:41 AM
He's Not? :eek:
Why did he say that he isn't gettin married then? :o
:jkk:
Allahu A'alam! Ask Lambuuuuuu
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:54 AM
He's Not? :eek:
Why did he say that he isn't gettin married then? :o
:jkk:
No Im not shy. :smack: Well I might be alittle when the occasion actually come up...but thats not the reason.
No Im not shy. :smack: Well I might be alittle when the occasion actually come up...but thats not the reason.
whats the reason bro? :D
:jkk:
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:56 AM
because he's a loser?
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 12:57 AM
because he's a loser?
:(
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 12:59 AM
are you??
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 01:01 AM
are you??
I hope not.
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 01:03 AM
you, yourself don't know that you are a loser or not! That's stupid!
I think this is a good topic for non-Muslims too. Many women are choosing now to stay single. I often wonder how they feel when theyget past child-bearing age. I am sure many of them see their mistake but guess I will get a barage of comments from feminists for saying this.
I think you're confusing a couple of different issues.
I think many women who "choose" to stay single are women who've tried very hard to find a mate, but have for whatever reason failed. It is easier to label such circumstance as a "choice" than admit to the entirely dispiriting reality of failure.
And I'm not blaming these women.
I don't quite know why, but it does seem much more difficult nowadays for young people to marry than it was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was of marriageable age.
I sometimes think people needed each other more. I sometimes think people had a simpler idea of what "happiness" means. I know we were certainly more innocent in some ways -- society as a whole wasn't as sexualized and people weren't so tempted by illusions of sexual possibility.
Abu Mus'ab
29-06-07, 02:27 PM
you, yourself don't know that you are a loser or not! That's stupid!
Stop picking on lambo or else :torture: :mad:
...
their API is difficult to work with. very hard to "program" them....
and proposing is a scary thing....very very scary....so i'll wait till allah swt puts a girl infront of me that tells me she wants to marry me, and then i'll propose :D (that might take a while though lol)
their API is difficult to work with. very hard to "program" them....
Not impossible though... :D
and proposing is a scary thing....very very scary....so i'll wait till allah swt puts a girl infront of me that tells me she wants to marry me, and then i'll propose :D (that might take a while though lol)
Your tellin me bro... I blundered through mine... :smack:
Na, Na, Ee kitha koila? :eek: afne ze shomoe ready, o shomoe afnar amma ba abba ke bolben ke afne bhia korte chain, afa okol aro beshi shy, afne wait koroin na jeno! :nono:
Bala khame tharik koren na jeno! :D
:jkk:
$HugoBoss$
29-06-07, 03:21 PM
I'd rather die than not get married, i'm serious :(
their API is difficult to work with. very hard to "program" them....
and proposing is a scary thing....very very scary....so i'll wait till allah swt puts a girl infront of me that tells me she wants to marry me, and then i'll propose :D (that might take a while though lol)
lol, br ur gna b waitin a long tym:rolleyes: gud luck!
:jkk:
wa iyyaka,
lol insha'allah, i won't delay it too long. please make dua that I get married soon, jazakallahu khairan.
lol, br ur gna b waitin a long tym:rolleyes: gud luck!
yeah :(, thanks though.....
stchowdh
29-06-07, 08:27 PM
I think you're confusing a couple of different issues.
I think many women who "choose" to stay single are women who've tried very hard to find a mate, but have for whatever reason failed. It is easier to label such circumstance as a "choice" than admit to the entirely dispiriting reality of failure.
And I'm not blaming these women.
I don't quite know why, but it does seem much more difficult nowadays for young people to marry than it was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was of marriageable age.
I sometimes think people needed each other more. I sometimes think people had a simpler idea of what "happiness" means. I know we were certainly more innocent in some ways -- society as a whole wasn't as sexualized and people weren't so tempted by illusions of sexual possibility.
i agree :)
...and proposing is a scary thing....very very scary....
No. Staring a mortgage in the face for thirty years is a scary thing.
When you have children and realize, "I'm not going to have a full night's sleep for the next twenty years," is a very, very scary thing.
Debater
29-06-07, 08:56 PM
I think its very selfish to get marry only to complete your duty and after that ruin the other's life. Because you can play theatre for x time but after that she/he will feel you are not completely engage in marriage.
Wow, what a beautiful picture of those selfish couples who have a train of kids!
Debater
29-06-07, 08:59 PM
Isn't it true that if you think you are able to keep away from haraam relationships and actions, you do not have to marry.
Not only that you don't have to marry but you don't even have to brush your teeth, comb your hair, wash your face and change clothes everyday... life becomes very colourful e.g the yellow colouring on the teeth.
Debater
29-06-07, 09:08 PM
Imam Nawawi (Ra), I think Imam Bukhari (Ra) too ...
Wow, what about Imam Fais??
I doubht imam bukhari had time for marriage anyways.......
He did, it's only the match making ladies who didn't have time to get an appointment with Imam Bukhari.
You don't have to marry if you don't want to, and beware, there are two fabricated hadith that state marrige is half your deen, and that the worst thing to allah is divorse. Watch out for those. And remember, muslims are ordered to forbid the evil and enjoin the good.
But, i will say this, if you need to get married to protect yourself..then you must get married so that you do not sin, and if you have control over yourself, then you are ready for marrige, and you should get married. Marrige is a good thing, but it is NOT enforced or an obligation.
If one wants to take a scholarly path in life, it is best to not get married, as it will take up too much of your time.
Chariya!
Debater
29-06-07, 09:15 PM
wooo!..calm down folks...
in reply to those that are saying that one should not marry if one does not have desire...like isnt one of the main purposes of marriage to procreate and increase the ummah?...i dont think there are many people nowadays that lack desire...
And also didnt our beloved Prophet marry so that he could increase the ummah and not for desire?....Correct me if i am mistaken..:) jzk
Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam didn't marry for children as he had only 4 daughters left alive, he married more than 4 wives because that was the Command of Allah for him, he didn't do everything by himself after Nubuwwat.
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 09:19 PM
Stop picking on lambo or else :torture: :mad:
yea! or else! :up:
Lambo5688
29-06-07, 09:20 PM
I'd rather die than not get married, i'm serious :(
Don't worry bro. Inshallah you'll get married soon. Then you can give your wife rides in the nice G35.
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 09:28 PM
Stop picking on lambo or else :torture: :mad:
stop me if you can brother!!
Sulaiman Harun
29-06-07, 09:29 PM
I'd rather die than not get married, i'm serious :(
why boss did your ..... do something?
Abu Mus'ab
30-06-07, 10:05 AM
stop me if you can brother!!
I veel neg rep you then :buttkick:
ummbilal
30-06-07, 10:11 AM
why would u not marry to complete half your deen???
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