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Raziel

25-06-07, 08:24 PM

ify

25-06-07, 08:36 PM

Did sisters and bro's know that Gold Jewelery is also forbidden to women? :scratch:

I just read a book on the Etiquettes of Marriage, and it quotes a few Hadiths which make this Blatantly clear...

Sahih Hadiths from Ahmed, An-Nasaee... etc...

also Sheikh Naseer-Uddin-Al-Albani confirms that the Hadiths are indeed authentic, and goes on to state that other Hadiths other Ahmed/Nasaee also state that it is forbidden...

:jkk:
salaamz, heya - 4rm wot i no of - gold jewellery is not haraam - tho the prophet s. preferred silver.... imitations of real gold/silver jewellery r disliked but apart 4rm tht, gold jewellery is fine..... i cum 4rm a family that has aalim's n aalimas n if ths were true, thy wudn't let members of the family wear gold.

p.s. r u of hanafi mazhab..?

Abu Mu'adh

25-06-07, 08:37 PM

RUKU

25-06-07, 08:53 PM

gold jewellery is haram??:rubeyes: dats the first i'v herd.
i hope it aint! we'l jus hav 2 wait for the brother to provide the relevant hadith.

S@Z

25-06-07, 08:59 PM

as far as am aware > gold ain't haraam for women...

can you post these ahadeeth akh ?

Al-Irhaab

25-06-07, 10:03 PM

calm down people calm down no need to get into a panic *rotfl*

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=652&ln=eng&txt=gold

neelu

25-06-07, 10:40 PM

It's not haraam for women to wear gold, please close this thread.

$HugoBoss$

26-06-07, 01:09 AM

GuCcI

26-06-07, 01:28 AM

What about white gold, can men wear that?????

http://www.adorablebabygifts.com/adorable_products/mother_rings/mothers_ring_bella_white_L.jpg

http://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/i/products/20210811065.jpg

I really wanted to get a white gold ring but never got it because i wasn't sure if it was permissable for men?????

logic would tell u that its not permissble becuz white gold is still gold just a different colour. get platinum or sterling silver (cheaper), it looks like white gold :up:

Tax-Man

26-06-07, 01:36 AM

white gold lol get a Platinum one bro BAAAALIN'

seven

26-06-07, 09:22 AM

jewellry is annoying... i just about wear a watch

ify

26-06-07, 09:26 AM

calm down people calm down no need to get into a panic *rotfl*

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=652&ln=eng&txt=gold

:jkk: 4 the link - lol - hey maan, u cn probs tell tht i like my jewellery :D - however little/much tht i hav!!:up:

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 09:51 AM

jewellry is annoying... i just about wear a watch

a watch isnt jewellery :p

Eemaan

26-06-07, 10:07 AM

"I pity the fool who doesn't like my jewellry!"

http://www.tvacres.com/images/jewelry_mrt.jpg

:inlove:

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:11 AM

salaamz, heya - 4rm wot i no of - gold jewellery is not haraam - tho the prophet s. preferred silver.... imitations of real gold/silver jewellery r disliked but apart 4rm tht, gold jewellery is fine..... i cum 4rm a family that has aalim's n aalimas n if ths were true, thy wudn't let members of the family wear gold.

p.s. r u of hanafi mazhab..?

I'm of the Madhab of Rasulullah :saws:

whatever he commands I accept...

read...

on the authority of Thaubaan (ra) who said : "Bint Hubaira came to the prophet :saw: wearing large rings of gold on her hand. The Prophet :saw: began hitting her hand with a small stick which he had, saying, 'Would it please you for Allah to put rings of Fire on your Hand?' so she went to Faatimah (ra) to plead her case."

Thaubaan (ra) said: "The Prophet :saw: went to Faatimah (ra) and I was with him. She had taken a gold chain from around her neck and she said: 'This was given to me by Abu Hassan' (Ali (ra) her Husband) and the chain was in her hand. The Prophet :saw: then said 'O Faatimah would you be pleased if the people were to say that Faatimah the daughter the daughter of Muhammad has a chain of fire on her hand?' Then he became harsh with her, and left without sitting. She took the chain, sold it, and bought the freedom of a number of slaves. When that reached the Prophet :saw: he said: 'All praise be to Allah who has saved Faatimah from the fire'

Ahmad, An-Nasaaee/ Saheeh.

there are other hadiths which make this obvious too.

:jkk:

angel*

26-06-07, 10:11 AM

wow thise ringz were wkd! :up: me in love with platenium and silver!!!

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:13 AM

as far as am aware > gold ain't haraam for women...

can you post these ahadeeth akh ?

sure sis... http://www.ummah.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1962901&postcount=15

also there are other Hadith's as well if anyone interested I can post em too...

:jkk:

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:21 AM

Heres another Saheeh Hadith...

On the authority of Umm Salamah (ra), wife of the Prophet :saw: who said: "I put some gold bead-shaped ornaments around my neck. The Prophet :saw: came in and turned away from it. I said to him: 'Will you not look at it's beauty?' He said, 'It is from your ornaments which I have turned away.' Then I broke the necklace, and he turned to face me."

Ahmed.

seven

26-06-07, 10:31 AM

the ahadith you have posted do not conclude that gold is haraam for women.

the Prophet :saw: had a dislike for gold as he did not like to keep any wealth.

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 10:33 AM

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:40 AM

the ahadith you have posted do not conclude that gold is haraam for women.

the Prophet :saw: had a dislike for gold as he did not like to keep any wealth.

How so, when he clearly said that it was like a Chain of Fire on her hand?!!! :scratch:

and he said his own daughter was saved from the Fire, (by Allah Subhana Uta'ala) when she got rid of the Gold?!!! :scratch:

if it was mere dislike, why would he have said that his Daughter was saved by Allah from the Fire?!!!

:jkk:

Eemaan

26-06-07, 10:48 AM

one hadith does not qualify as a fatwa raz :nerdbro:

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:53 AM

one hadith does not qualify as a fatwa raz :nerdbro:

lol! I know sis... :o

But I would like some explanation of why he would have said that, other than just to dismiss a Saheeh Hadith...

:jkk:

Raziel

26-06-07, 10:55 AM

Read this
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=11886&ln=eng

it explains the above hadiths...

there is ijma of the scholars that it is permissable for women to wear gold.

taken from the above link

:jkk: bro, I will read that, but can you explain to me why a Saheeh Hadith mentions that Gold Jewelery on a Woman is like a Chain of Fire?

and also why it mentions that Rasululla :saw: said that Faatimah (ra) was saved by Allah Subhana Uta'ala from the Fire?

:jkk:

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 10:59 AM

:jkk: bro, I will read that, but can you explain to me why a Saheeh Hadith mentions that Gold Jewelery on a Woman is like a Chain of Fire?

and also why it mentions that Rasululla :saw: said that Faatimah (ra) was saved by Allah Subhana Uta'ala from the Fire?

:jkk:

erm..it explains it in that link :o

Raziel

26-06-07, 11:04 AM

erm..it explains it in that link :o

skimmed through it, didn't see that Hadith or it's explanation...

o.k bro, I'll read it properly and get back to ya, :o

:jkk:

MMS

26-06-07, 11:16 AM

i fink this view of gold being haraam fer women was only held by albaani, he was criticised fer it alot

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 11:19 AM

posting it again
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=11886&ln=eng

:D

Raziel

26-06-07, 11:21 AM

i fink this view of gold being haraam fer women was only held by albaani, he was criticised fer it alot

it doesn't matter if he was Critised, what is important is that he quoted a Saheeh Hadith, so we cannot dismiss it, there has to be an explanation for it...

:jkk:

MMS

26-06-07, 11:22 AM

it doesn't matter if he was Critised, what is important is that he quoted a Saheeh Hadith, so we cannot dismiss it, there has to be an explanation for it...

:jkk:

lol read the link ibnsully put up :p

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 11:25 AM

it doesn't matter if he was Critised, what is important is that he quoted a Saheeh Hadith, so we cannot dismiss it, there has to be an explanation for it...

:jkk:

*whispers* read the link :o

lol read the link ibnsully put up :p

:up:

Raziel

26-06-07, 11:38 AM

*whispers* read the link :o

:up:

i'm readin it bro...

I think I just understood, cause one of the Hadith quoted says that if Zakaah is not given on the
ten it's formed into fire for the women in Qiyamaah...

:jkk:

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 11:47 AM

i'm readin it bro...

I think I just understood, cause one of the Hadith quoted says that if Zakaah is not given on the
ten it's formed into fire for the women in Qiyamaah...

:jkk:

:)

Fais

26-06-07, 11:53 AM

I'm of the Madhab of Rasulullah :saws:

whatever he commands I accept...

read...

on the authority of Thaubaan (ra) who said : "Bint Hubaira came to the prophet :saw: wearing large rings of gold on her hand. The Prophet :saw: began hitting her hand with a small stick which he had, saying, 'Would it please you for Allah to put rings of Fire on your Hand?' so she went to Faatimah (ra) to plead her case."

Thaubaan (ra) said: "The Prophet :saw: went to Faatimah (ra) and I was with him. She had taken a gold chain from around her neck and she said: 'This was given to me by Abu Hassan' (Ali (ra) her Husband) and the chain was in her hand. The Prophet :saw: then said 'O Faatimah would you be pleased if the people were to say that Faatimah the daughter the daughter of Muhammad has a chain of fire on her hand?' Then he became harsh with her, and left without sitting. She took the chain, sold it, and bought the freedom of a number of slaves. When that reached the Prophet :saw: he said: 'All praise be to Allah who has saved Faatimah from the fire'

Ahmad, An-Nasaaee/ Saheeh.

there are other hadiths which make this obvious too.

:jkk:

That Hadith is specific to Fatima (Ra) ... Well thats what i was taught ...

I dont wanna go into detail coz it might hurt a few feelings lol. Actually i think it will. So ill leave it at that :o.

But thats was specific to Her (Ra).

And Allah knows Best.

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 11:54 AM

That Hadith is specific to Fatima (Ra) ... Well thats what i was taught ...

I dont wanna go into detail coz it might hurt a few feelings lol. Actually i think it will. So ill leave it at that :o.

But thats was specific to Her (Ra).

And Allah knows Best.

u read the link too :p

Fais

26-06-07, 11:58 AM

u read the link too :p

After i posted ... Why .. what does it say lol ... :o ...

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 12:00 PM

After i posted ... Why .. what does it say lol ... :o ...

it explains teh whole issue :D

ze leetle elper

26-06-07, 12:01 PM

a watch isnt jewellery :p

You obviously haven't seen his watch *BLING BLING* :p

ze leetle elper

26-06-07, 12:03 PM

Also as far as I am aware, the most a man may wear is a ring made of pure silver? And even that has to be under a certain weight? Can anyone elaborate on this please?

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:05 PM

Also as far as I am aware, the most a man may wear is a ring made of pure silver? And even that has to be under a certain weight? Can anyone elaborate on this please?

what about Steel? :scratch:

I wear one made of Titanium, hope thats o.k ...

:jkk:

Fais

26-06-07, 12:07 PM

it explains teh whole issue :D

I read it lol ...

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 12:07 PM

most rings look like pipe washers :rotfl:

You obviously haven't seen his watch *BLING BLING* :p

loool :D

Fais

26-06-07, 12:07 PM

what about Steel? :scratch:

I wear one made of Titanium, hope thats o.k ...

:jkk:

So do i :D ... Titanium is Sunnah isnt it :0:

RashidD

26-06-07, 12:10 PM

Stainless steal ring here... Someone please confirm if it's ok InshaALLAH...

ze leetle elper

26-06-07, 12:10 PM

Are men allowed to wear white gold rings or those that are made from metal, wood, brass, etc…?

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

It is unlawful for men to adorn themselves with any type of jewellery besides a silver ring. Gold has been decisively prohibited for men by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace).

Sayyiduna Abu Musa al-Ash’ari (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said:

“Gold and silk have been made lawful for the women of my Ummah and prohibited for men” (Sunan Tirmizi & Sunan Nasa’i).

Sayyiduna Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) held silk in his right hand and gold in his left, and then said: “These two have been prohibited for the males of my Ummah” (Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan Nasa’i & Musnad Ahmad.
Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the wearing of gold rings (Sahih Muslim).

Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) saw a man wearing a gold ring. He (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) took of the ring, flung it and said: “One of you desires the live coal of fire, thus places it in his hand” (Sahih Muslim).

Due to the above narrations, it is unlawful (haram) for men to wear any type of gold jewellery. This also includes white gold, as the ruling is for gold regardless of the colour. Gold is Haram whether it is white or yellow.

Rings made from other than gold

In the Hanafi Madhhab, the only jewellery men are permitted to wear is a silver ring. Rings made from other than silver are impermissible, such as rings made from stone, metal, brass, platinum, etc…

Imam al-Haskafi (may Allah have mercy on him) states in his famous treaties in Hanafi Fiqh, Durr al-Mukhtar:

“It is not permissible for a man to adorn himself with any type of gold and silver besides a ring….. And it is impermissible to wear a ring except that which is made from silver, as silver rings are sufficient (for stamping. m), thus it will be unlawful (haram) to wear rings made from other then silver”.

The great Hanafi jurist, Allama Ibn Abidin (may Allah have mercy on him)
comments on the above in his super commentary (hashiya) saying:

“It is Haram to wear other than a silver ring, because of what Imam Tahawi related with his chain of narrators to Sayyiduna Imran ibn Husain and Sayyiduna Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with both of them) that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the wearing of gold rings. And it is narrated that a man came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) wearing a ring made of brass.

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “What is it that I smell the odour of idols from you, so he got rid of the ring. Then he came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) wearing a ring made of iron. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “What is it that I find on you the adornment of the people of hellfire”, so he got rid of it and said: “From what substance should I make my ring O Messenger of Allah?”

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Make it from silver that is less then one Mithqal”.

It becomes clear from the above narrations that to wear a ring that is made from gold, iron, metal and brass is Haram” (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/359, fasl fi al-libas).

The above statement of one the major Hanafi Imams is clear in determining the prohibition of wearing rings that are made from other than silver. However, it should be remembered here that consideration is taken of the ring itself and not the stone, as mentioned in Durr al-Mukhtar.

Is wearing a ring Sunnah?

According to the Hanafi understanding (ijtihad), wearing a (silver) ring is only considered a Sunnah for those who need to stamp with it, such as a judge (qadhi) or an author.

It is best for other than those who need to use a ring for stamping not to wear a ring. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) is understood to have worn a ring for stamping, not adornment.

As such, it is only a sunnah for those who have this need. However, as Imam Ibn Abidin mentions, it is permissible for men to wear a silver ring that is equivalent or less than 2.975grams (mithqal).

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:12 PM

So do i :D ... Titanium is Sunnah isnt it :0:

Dunno bro, but it's one seriously light and strong metal... :D

:jkk:

Fais

26-06-07, 12:13 PM

Dunno bro, but it's one seriously light and strong metal... :D

:jkk:

Yea man tell me about it ... Its so comfortable to wear :eek: ... I got it as a present ... Someone whos wise chose a good ring :D

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 12:15 PM

so we're only allowed to wear silver...

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:16 PM

Yea man tell me about it ... Its so comfortable to wear :eek: ... I got it as a present ... Someone whos wise chose a good ring :D

Aha... now we get to the root reason eh? :D

so whens the Big day? :D

:jkk:

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:17 PM

so we're only allowed to wear silver...

... Rings... (Jewelery) bro... :o

:jkk:

Fais

26-06-07, 12:17 PM

Aha... now we get to the root reason eh? :D

so whens the Big day? :D

:jkk:

:0: ...

Yea the big days tomorrow .. I get a day off :hidban: ... What about you, whens you big day :D

ibn suleman

26-06-07, 12:18 PM

Aha... now we get to the root reason eh? :D

so whens the Big day? :D

:jkk:

looool :D

... Rings... (Jewelery) bro... :o

:jkk:

yup silver rings under 2.975g :D

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:20 PM

:0: ...

Yea the big days tomorrow .. I get a day off :hidban: ... What about you, whens you big day :D

You is dodgin my Question bro, :smack: you know perfectly well what I was referrin to... :D

so has it been decided, you engaged yet? :D :outta:

er... mines on a Sunday (probably 22nd) ... :outta:

:jkk:

Raziel

26-06-07, 12:21 PM

looool :D

It's gonna happen soon, Insha'allah, although Akhi Fais doesn't wanna admit it... :outta:

yup silver rings under 2.975g :D

:up:

:jkk: