Mendi/Henna Question?

[Raziel]

I wanted to ask if some brother or sister can answer this question, been buggin me for some time...

Is it correct to put mehndi/Henna on for men and women before, on or after their (actual) Wedding ? :scratch:

If some bro, or sis can give an answer with reference to an authentic Hadith, it would be much appreciated...

:jkk:

[Bint_Khalid]

It is cultural :scratch: but men can use henna on their hair it is considered a sunnah, so I dont think there is any harm unless... them aunti jees apply all over the body thats just :rubeyes: :S wrong..avoid that!

[Raziel]

It is cultural :scratch: but men can use henna on their hair it is considered a sunnah, so I dont think there is any harm unless... them aunti jees apply all over the body thats just :rubeyes: :S wrong..best to avoid.

sis can ya quote a an authentic Hadith to show how and when the prophet :saw: applied it ? :scratch:

I don't like the cultural baggage that keeps buttin in...

:jkk:

[Bint_Khalid]

sis can ya quote a an authentic Hadith to show if the prophet :saw: applied it ? :scratch:

I don't like the cultural baggage that keeps buttin in...

:jkk:

This is the only hadith related to henna I can find

Sahih Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 257:
Narrated Anas:

(the servant of the Prophet) When the Prophet arrived (at Medina), there was not a single companion of the Prophet who had grey and black hair except Abu Bakr, and he dyed his hair with Henna' and Katam (i.e. plants used for dying hair). Through another group of narrators, Anas bin Malik said,. "When the Prophet arrived at Medina, the eldest amongst his companions was Abu Bakr. He dyed his hair with Hinna and Katam till it became of dark red color.

[Raziel]

This is the only hadith related to henna I can find

Sahih Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 257:
Narrated Anas:

(the servant of the Prophet) When the Prophet arrived (at Medina), there was not a single companion of the Prophet who had grey and black hair except Abu Bakr, and he dyed his hair with Henna' and Katam (i.e. plants used for dying hair). Through another group of narrators, Anas bin Malik said,. "When the Prophet arrived at Medina, the eldest amongst his companions was Abu Bakr. He dyed his hair with Hinna and Katam till it became of dark red color.

thanks sis, so they didn't put henna on their hands etc? :scratch:

:jkk:

[Fais]

thanks sis, so they didn't put henna on their hands etc? :scratch:

:jkk:

I heard thats Haram (For men) ...

Allah knows best.

EDIT: Found this

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=3661&CATE=418

[ify]

well, no but thers nuthin tht says wmn can't put it on their hands....

[Fais]

well, no but thers nuthin tht says wmn can't put it on their hands....

Women are allowed.

[ify]

yeh lol jst 2 clear that up :up:

[angel*]

Mmmm i dont think men are allowed but 4 women it is!!! Yay! :p

[heaven2002]

these are rough ; will try and find exact wording inshallah

Abu Dawud narrated that a woman one handed a note to the Prophet (saw) from behing a curtain and he said 'I do not know if this is a hand of a man or a woman ' and she said ' it is the hand of a woman' and he said 'if it is a hand of a woman then you would dye your nails (meaning with henna).

in another hadith Abu Dawud narrated that Aisha (ra) said there was no harm in henna, but she disliked it, as the prophet (saw) had disliked its smell .

[neelu]

in another hadith Abu Dawud narrated that Aisha (ra) said there was no harm in henna, but she disliked it, as the prophet (saw) had disliked its smell .

Awwww, my brother in law hates the smell of it too:)

[Raziel]

Thats what I was thinkin, that Men are not allowed...

thats it, I ain't puttin no mehndi on...

:jkk:

[Raziel]

I heard thats Haram (For men) ...

Allah knows best.

EDIT: Found this

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=3661&CATE=418

thanks bro... :up:

:jkk:

[heaven2002]

isnt there a hdith about the prophet (saw) seeing a sahabi with henna on his hand and asking about it and the sahabi said hed just got married? and then the prophet SAW wished him well?????

[Medievalist]

Mehndi and men:

Men can applying mehndi to their hair.
If there is a deeo wound then men can apply mehndi to the wound/alternatively they can apply haldi (turmeric in english I think?)

Back home some men put mehndi on their whole hands - looks a bit :S - but having said that I used to have a problem with the soles of my feet and would every few months put on some mendi on the soles to make the skin better :D

[Sulaiman Harun]

the pathan guys put iton their feet!!

[Raziel]

Mehndi and men:

Men can applying mehndi to their hair.
If there is a deeo wound then men can apply mehndi to the wound/alternatively they can apply haldi (turmeric in english I think?)

Back home some men put mehndi on their whole hands - looks a bit :S - but having said that I used to have a problem with the soles of my feet and would every few months put on some mendi on the soles to make the skin better :D

is there an authentic Hadith to show that applying mehndi/henna on the hands for decoration is permissible?

:jkk:

[Medievalist]

is there an authentic Hadith to show that applying mehndi/henna on the hands for decoration is permissible?

:jkk:

for men? or for women?

[Raziel]

for men? or for women?

for men bro, cause I don't wanna do anythin stupid, or Haram or Doubtful(may or may not be Haram) I wanna avoid em all...

:jkk:

[Medievalist]

I dont know of hadeeth - in our fiqh it is not permitted for men to wear mehndi for decoration. If you are alluding to the mehdni rasam that is in our indo-pak culture then it should be refrained from inshaALLAH. :)

[GuCcI]

huh?

so its haraam for men to wear mehendi before the wedding?

[Raziel]

I dont know of hadeeth - in our fiqh it is not permitted for men to wear mehndi for decoration. If you are alluding to the mehdni rasam that is in our indo-pak culture then it should be refrained from inshaALLAH. :)

thats pretty much what I was referrin to...

:jkk:

[heaven2002]

isnt there a hdith about the prophet (saw) seeing a sahabi with henna on his hand and asking about it and the sahabi said hed just got married? and then the prophet SAW wished him well?????

sorry this was incorrect^^^^
hadith states it was saffron

[Raziel]

sorry this was incorrect^^^^
hadith states it was saffron

no problems sis...:o

it's your intentions that count...

:jkk:

[Medievalist]

sorry this was incorrect^^^^
hadith states it was saffron

Was this regarding the marriage of Sayyidina AbdurRahman ibn Awf?

Raziel: bro if you getting married and they wanna do a mehndi rasam then I'd advised strongly against it. A halfway point is that you can have a dholki night (with purdah) that might calm yr in-laws. its a compromise we have to make. :coolbro:

[heaven2002]

yes^^^

some men dont actually put the mehndi on
the mehndi is put on a leaf then put into his hand
u cud tell ur inlaws ur allergic:D

[heaven2002]

took this from one of sis asiyas posts

Anas said: "Abdur-Rahmaan came to al-Madeenah, and the Prophet assigned Sa'ad ibn Ar-Rabee' al-Ansaariy as his brother. Sa'ad took him to his house, called for food, and they both ate. The Sa'ad said: "O my brother, I am the wealthiest of the people of al-Madeenah (in another version: "... of the Ansaar"), so look to half of my property and take it (in another version: "... and I will divide my garden in half"). Also, I have two wives (and you, my brother in Allaah, have no wife), so look to which of mine pleases you more, so I can divorce her for you. Then upon the completion of the prescribed waiting period, you may marry her." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "No, by Allaah, may Allah bless you in your family and your property. Show me the way to the market-place."And so they showed him the way to the market-place and he went there. He bought and he sold and he made a profit. In the evening , he came back to the people of his house with some dried milk for cooking and some ghee. After that some time elapsed, until he appeared one day with traces of saffron on his garments. The Prophet said to him: "What is this?" He said: "O Messenger of Allaah, I have married a woman among the Ansaar." The Prophet answered: "What did you give her for her dowry?" He answered: "The weight of five dirhams in gold." Then, the Prophet said: "May Allaah bless you, give a feast if only with one sheep." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "I have seen myself in such a state that if I were to lift a stone, I would expect to find some gold or silver under it." Anas said: "I saw after his death that each of his wives inherited one hundred thousand Dinars."

sahih al bukhari

[Honey87]

Was this regarding the marriage of Sayyidina AbdurRahman ibn Awf?

Raziel: bro if you getting married and they wanna do a mehndi rasam then I'd advised strongly against it. A halfway point is that you can have a dholki night (with purdah) that might calm yr in-laws. its a compromise we have to make. :coolbro:

whats a dholki night??? is that an indian custom??

[Medievalist]

whats a dholki night??? is that an indian custom??

dholki is a drum. In our indo-pak culture in the days leading up to the wedding women get together and play the drum and sing wedding songs.

[RashidD]

You're allowed to use a dholki? *rubeyes*

[Raziel]

Was this regarding the marriage of Sayyidina AbdurRahman ibn Awf?

Raziel: bro if you getting married and they wanna do a mehndi rasam then I'd advised strongly against it. A halfway point is that you can have a dholki night (with purdah) that might calm yr in-laws. its a compromise we have to make. :coolbro:

I'm not doin it bro... :o

I won't compromise with what may or may not be Haram... thats out the Question, some things are beyond my control, but in this case, I'm gonna avoid it, as it is probably Haram, if not certainly Doubtful...

:jkk: for your posts and for that of other bro's and sis's ...

[Medievalist]

You're allowed to use a dholki? *rubeyes*

no you're not but its so deeply entrenched in our culture that its hard to cut if out totally :o

[Honey87]

Just replace the dholki for a duff

[Medievalist]

Just replace the dholki for a duff

our women dont know how to play it. :rolleyes:

[Honey87]

hehe, surely if they can play a dholki, playing a duff would be much simpler would it not?

[Medievalist]

hehe, surely if they can play a dholki, playing a duff would be much simpler would it not?

do I look like a dhol player > > > :coolbro: ?