Walimah

[Sulaiman Harun]

Walimah

:start:

:salams

:alhumdull

This is my first post in this forum. I never think about marriage or even talk about it. <blushes> But the question is that I read a hadith in which the prophet (SAWS) said that we should invite the poor aswell rich to our walimah. So should we have a separate seating arrangement for the poor guests to prevent the strange looks by the others. Or should we have same seating arrangements in which the poor guests might think bad of themselves?

:jkk:

:wswrwb:

[angel*]

Walimah

:start:

:salams

:alhumdull

This is my first post in this forum. I never think about marriage or even talk about it. <blushes> But the question is that I read a hadith in which the prophet (SAWS) said that we should invite the poor aswell rich to our walimah. So should we have a separate seating arrangement for the poor guests to prevent the strange looks by the others. Or should we have same seating arrangements in which the poor guests might think bad of themselves?

:jkk:

:wswrwb:

Mmmm i dont think u shuld put a visable barrier between the rich and the poor, wouldnt that defeat the "muqsad" of bringing them tog.??

[alld]

Walimah

:start:

:salams

:alhumdull

This is my first post in this forum. I never think about marriage or even talk about it. <blushes> But the question is that I read a hadith in which the prophet (SAWS) said that we should invite the poor aswell rich to our walimah. So should we have a separate seating arrangement for the poor guests to prevent the strange looks by the others. Or should we have same seating arrangements in which the poor guests might think bad of themselves?

:jkk:

:wswrwb:

walaikum salaam


do poor feel bad when they pray shoulder to shoulder with rich . ? there is no piont in segragating them .

[Sulaiman Harun]

thanks guys!!

[heaven2002]

you shudnt just invite rich family and freinds to show off and give urself a good name
but invite relatives and friends who are 'poor'
or send food for them

[Bint_Khalid]

walaikum salaam


do poor feel bad when they pray shoulder to shoulder with rich . ? there is no piont in segragating them .

:up: there should only really be gender segregation.

[Abu Mu'adh]

There aren't really any poor people here in the UK, so with that in mind is it ok to just invite relatives and close friends to the walima?

[Raziel]

Walimah

:start:

:salams

:alhumdull

Wa-alaikum-Salam-Warahmatullahi-Wabarakatu... brother Moneeb...

This is my first post in this forum. I never think about marriage or even talk about it. <blushes> But the question is that I read a hadith in which the prophet (SAWS) said that we should invite the poor aswell rich to our walimah. So should we have a separate seating arrangement for the poor guests to prevent the strange looks by the others. Or should we have same seating arrangements in which the poor guests might think bad of themselves?

:jkk:

:wswrwb:

you should have the same arrangements, there should be no seat specifically for the poor and the rich...

Al-Islam does not distinguish the superiority of a Man/Woman by his or her wealth, also by doing this the Poor will feel looked down upon, and the rich will feel pride/arrogance ...

none of which a Muslim should want...

the only point of separation should be the Genders... (Male/Female separate areas)

:jkk:

[Sulaiman Harun]

There aren't really any poor people here in the UK, so with that in mind is it ok to just invite relatives and close friends to the walima?
I suppose yes!

[GuCcI]

omg THIS is my problem!

im suppossed to hav my wedding next summer and its suppossed to be done in a nice fancy hall and all that right... BUT....

my father wants to do it in the VILLAGE so he can invite and feed the poor people in the village :shock: which is fine by me ... feed as many poor as u want u know? but wat about my FANCY wedding??? its gonna be SO LAME! im freaking out i wish there was a way for it to happen in a nice hall and poor people can get their invitation too :( :( :(

[peace2u]

Insha Allah, there will be more barakah in your wedding if you have in a place where all can benefit and witness it. Just use whatever money you can to make it nice and fancy in the village :love:


Peace

[Sulaiman Harun]

Can we have nikah and Walimah on the same day? Like nikah as a lunch and Walimah at night as a dinner? Or we must do them on seperate days?

For brother Raziel and sister Angel specially, this isn't for my marriage!

[`asiya]

wedding ettiquette being to consumate on the first night ( or within first 3 nights) according to the sahih sunnah, after the nikkah the husband and wife spend the night together and consumate their marriage then the following day or up to three days after the nikkah, then they hold the wallima and the poor are invited to come and eat.


the Morning After His Wedding Night

In the hadith narrated by Anas : "The Messenger of Allaah gave a feast on the morning of his wedding night with Zainab, at which he fed the Muslims to satisfaction on bread and meat. Then, he went out to the Mothers of the Believers (i.e. to his other wives), gave them greetings and prayed for them, which they returned in kind. This is the way he used to do on the morning after a wedding night."

Ibn Sa'd and an-Nasaa'ee: Sahih .

The Obligation of a Wedding Feast

The husband must sponsor a feast after the consummation of the marriage.

This is based on the order of the Prophet to 'Abur-Rahman ibn 'Auf to do so, and on the hadith narrated by Buraida ibn At-Haseeb, who said: "When 'Ali sought the hand of Faatimah (the Prophet's daughter) in marraige, he said that the Prophet said: "A wedding (and in another version "a bridegroom") must have a feast." The narrator said: "Sa'ad said: '(a feast) of a sheep.' Someone else said: 'Of such and such a quantity of corn." [Ahmad and at-Tabaraani: Its isnaad is acceptable as al-Haafiz Ibn Hajr says in Fathul-Baaree: 9/188]


Narrated Al-Bara' bin 'Azib:

The Prophet ordered us to do seven (things) and forbade us from seven. He ordered us to visit the patients, to follow the funeral procession, to reply to the sneezer (i.e., say to him, 'Yarhamuka-l-lah (May Allah bestow His Mercy upon you), if he says 'Al-hamdulillah' (Praise be to Allah), to help others to fulfill their oaths, to help the oppressed, to greet (whomever one should meet), and to accept the invitation (to a wedding banquet). He forbade us to wear golden rings, to use silver utensils, to use Mayathir (cushions of silk stuffed with cotton and placed under the rider on the saddle), the Qasiyya (linen clothes containing silk brought from an Egyptian town), the Istibraq (thick silk) and the Dibaj (another kind of silk). (See Hadith No. 539 and 753

sahih al bukhari

The Sunnah of the Wedding Feast

The following should be observed with regard to the wedding banquet:

It should be held

for up to three days after the first wedding night, On the authority of Anas who said: "The Prophet entered upon his wife and sent me to invite some men for food."

sahih al-Bukhari

Also on the authority of Anas, he said: "The Prophet married Safiya, and her freedom was her dowry. He gave the feast for three days."

al bukhari, Hasan

One should invite the righteous to his banquet whether they be rich or poor.

The Prophet said: "Do not be the friend of any except believers, and have only the pious eat your food."

Abu Dawood, at-Tirmidhi and others: Sahih

If one is able, he should have a feast of one or more sheep. Based on the following hadith:

Anas said: "Abdur-Rahmaan came to al-Madeenah, and the Prophet assigned Sa'ad ibn Ar-Rabee' al-Ansaariy as his brother. Sa'ad took him to his house, called for food, and they both ate. The Sa'ad said: "O my brother, I am the wealthiest of the people of al-Madeenah (in another version: "... of the Ansaar"), so look to half of my property and take it (in another version: "... and I will divide my garden in half"). Also, I have two wives (and you, my brother in Allaah, have no wife), so look to which of mine pleases you more, so I can divorce her for you. Then upon the completion of the prescribed waiting period, you may marry her." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "No, by Allaah, may Allah bless you in your family and your property. Show me the way to the market-place."And so they showed him the way to the market-place and he went there. He bought and he sold and he made a profit. In the evening , he came back to the people of his house with some dried milk for cooking and some ghee. After that some time elapsed, until he appeared one day with traces of saffron on his garments. The Prophet said to him: "What is this?" He said: "O Messenger of Allaah, I have married a woman among the Ansaar." The Prophet answered: "What did you give her for her dowry?" He answered: "The weight of five dirhams in gold." Then, the Prophet said: "May Allaah bless you, give a feast if only with one sheep." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "I have seen myself in such a state that if I were to lift a stone, I would expect to find some gold or silver under it." Anas said: "I saw after his death that each of his wives inherited one hundred thousand Dinars."

sahih al bukhari

Also on the authority of Anas he said: "I never saw the Prophet sponsor such a wedding feast as the one he gave for Zainab. He slaughtered a sheep and fed everyone meat and bread until they ate no more."

Al-bukhari Muslim

Wedding Feasts can be give with Other than Meat

It is allowed to give the wedding banquet with any food which is available and affordable, even if that does not include meat. This is based on the following hadith narrated by Anas:

"The Prophet stayed between Khaibar and al-Madeenah for three days during which he had entered with his wife Safiya . Then I invited the Muslims to his Wedding feast. There was neither meat nor bread at his feast. Rather, leather eating mats were brought out and on them were placed dates, dried milk, and clarified butter. The people ate their fill."

sahih al bukhari


Narrated Abu Huraira: "The worst food is that of a wedding banquet to which only the rich are invited while the poor are not invited. And he who refuses an invitation (to a banquet) disobeys Allah and His Apostle . "

sahih al bukhari

[Sulaiman Harun]

thanks sister! :jkk:

[ammarcool]

WE one Ummah! :)

[Raziel]

Can we have nikah and Walimah on the same day? Like nikah as a lunch and Walimah at night as a dinner? Or we must do them on seperate days?

For brother Raziel and sister Angel specially, this isn't for my marriage!

I'm gonna have it the same day I think, to much hassle as it is already... :smack:

yeah, right, keep tellin us that ... :D


:jkk:

[Raziel]

wedding ettiquette being to consumate on the first night ( or within first 3 nights) according to the sahih sunnah, after the nikkah the husband and wife spend the night together and consumate their marriage then the following day or up to three days after the nikkah, then they hold the wallima and the poor are invited to come and eat.


the Morning After His Wedding Night

In the hadith narrated by Anas : "The Messenger of Allaah gave a feast on the morning of his wedding night with Zainab, at which he fed the Muslims to satisfaction on bread and meat. Then, he went out to the Mothers of the Believers (i.e. to his other wives), gave them greetings and prayed for them, which they returned in kind. This is the way he used to do on the morning after a wedding night."

Ibn Sa'd and an-Nasaa'ee: Sahih .

The Obligation of a Wedding Feast

The husband must sponsor a feast after the consummation of the marriage.

This is based on the order of the Prophet to 'Abur-Rahman ibn 'Auf to do so, and on the hadith narrated by Buraida ibn At-Haseeb, who said: "When 'Ali sought the hand of Faatimah (the Prophet's daughter) in marraige, he said that the Prophet said: "A wedding (and in another version "a bridegroom") must have a feast." The narrator said: "Sa'ad said: '(a feast) of a sheep.' Someone else said: 'Of such and such a quantity of corn." [Ahmad and at-Tabaraani: Its isnaad is acceptable as al-Haafiz Ibn Hajr says in Fathul-Baaree: 9/188]


Narrated Al-Bara' bin 'Azib:

The Prophet ordered us to do seven (things) and forbade us from seven. He ordered us to visit the patients, to follow the funeral procession, to reply to the sneezer (i.e., say to him, 'Yarhamuka-l-lah (May Allah bestow His Mercy upon you), if he says 'Al-hamdulillah' (Praise be to Allah), to help others to fulfill their oaths, to help the oppressed, to greet (whomever one should meet), and to accept the invitation (to a wedding banquet). He forbade us to wear golden rings, to use silver utensils, to use Mayathir (cushions of silk stuffed with cotton and placed under the rider on the saddle), the Qasiyya (linen clothes containing silk brought from an Egyptian town), the Istibraq (thick silk) and the Dibaj (another kind of silk). (See Hadith No. 539 and 753

sahih al bukhari

The Sunnah of the Wedding Feast

The following should be observed with regard to the wedding banquet:

It should be held

for up to three days after the first wedding night, On the authority of Anas who said: "The Prophet entered upon his wife and sent me to invite some men for food."

sahih al-Bukhari

Also on the authority of Anas, he said: "The Prophet married Safiya, and her freedom was her dowry. He gave the feast for three days."

al bukhari, Hasan

One should invite the righteous to his banquet whether they be rich or poor.

The Prophet said: "Do not be the friend of any except believers, and have only the pious eat your food."

Abu Dawood, at-Tirmidhi and others: Sahih

If one is able, he should have a feast of one or more sheep. Based on the following hadith:

Anas said: "Abdur-Rahmaan came to al-Madeenah, and the Prophet assigned Sa'ad ibn Ar-Rabee' al-Ansaariy as his brother. Sa'ad took him to his house, called for food, and they both ate. The Sa'ad said: "O my brother, I am the wealthiest of the people of al-Madeenah (in another version: "... of the Ansaar"), so look to half of my property and take it (in another version: "... and I will divide my garden in half"). Also, I have two wives (and you, my brother in Allaah, have no wife), so look to which of mine pleases you more, so I can divorce her for you. Then upon the completion of the prescribed waiting period, you may marry her." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "No, by Allaah, may Allah bless you in your family and your property. Show me the way to the market-place."And so they showed him the way to the market-place and he went there. He bought and he sold and he made a profit. In the evening , he came back to the people of his house with some dried milk for cooking and some ghee. After that some time elapsed, until he appeared one day with traces of saffron on his garments. The Prophet said to him: "What is this?" He said: "O Messenger of Allaah, I have married a woman among the Ansaar." The Prophet answered: "What did you give her for her dowry?" He answered: "The weight of five dirhams in gold." Then, the Prophet said: "May Allaah bless you, give a feast if only with one sheep." 'Abdur-Rahmaan said: "I have seen myself in such a state that if I were to lift a stone, I would expect to find some gold or silver under it." Anas said: "I saw after his death that each of his wives inherited one hundred thousand Dinars."

sahih al bukhari

Also on the authority of Anas he said: "I never saw the Prophet sponsor such a wedding feast as the one he gave for Zainab. He slaughtered a sheep and fed everyone meat and bread until they ate no more."

Al-bukhari Muslim

Wedding Feasts can be give with Other than Meat

It is allowed to give the wedding banquet with any food which is available and affordable, even if that does not include meat. This is based on the following hadith narrated by Anas:

"The Prophet stayed between Khaibar and al-Madeenah for three days during which he had entered with his wife Safiya . Then I invited the Muslims to his Wedding feast. There was neither meat nor bread at his feast. Rather, leather eating mats were brought out and on them were placed dates, dried milk, and clarified butter. The people ate their fill."

sahih al bukhari


Narrated Abu Huraira: "The worst food is that of a wedding banquet to which only the rich are invited while the poor are not invited. And he who refuses an invitation (to a banquet) disobeys Allah and His Apostle . "

sahih al bukhari

:jkk: sis.. :o

[Raziel]

WE one Ummah! :)

Ditto...

Al-Quran, Chapter 3 : Verse 103
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"And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves"

:jkk: bro... :o

[angel*]

omg THIS is my problem!

im suppossed to hav my wedding next summer and its suppossed to be done in a nice fancy hall and all that right... BUT....

my father wants to do it in the VILLAGE so he can invite and feed the poor people in the village :shock: which is fine by me ... feed as many poor as u want u know? but wat about my FANCY wedding??? its gonna be SO LAME! im freaking out i wish there was a way for it to happen in a nice hall and poor people can get their invitation too :( :( :(


Mmmm u know what? thas what my daddy and my b-i-l'z daddy wanted aswell, so we all came up with a compromise, cuz we had like 15 dayz 4 the dholki in PC we decided to have 7 in th village and the rest in the Hotel we had booked, we had 3 post mehndi dayz so we had 1 in the village 2 in the hotel, wedding and rukhsati and walimah in the hotel and another "walimah" in the villagge, 2 dayz later. Hectic yes, but try it out. But all the ppl in the village also came 2 all the dayz in the hotel my parents made sure of that, the dayz in the village were mainl 4 the elder ppl who culdnt mk it to the hotel.




Can we have nikah and Walimah on the same day? Like nikah as a lunch and Walimah at night as a dinner? Or we must do them on seperate days?

For brother Raziel and sister Angel specially, this isn't for my marriage!


:hidban: really?:p

[GuCcI]

Mmmm u know what? thas what my daddy and my b-i-l'z daddy wanted aswell, so we all came up with a compromise, cuz we had like 15 dayz 4 the dholki in PC we decided to have 7 in th village and the rest in the Hotel we had booked, we had 3 post mehndi dayz so we had 1 in the village 2 in the hotel, wedding and rukhsati and walimah in the hotel and another "walimah" in the villagge, 2 dayz later. Hectic yes, but try it out. But all the ppl in the village also came 2 all the dayz in the hotel my parents made sure of that, the dayz in the village were mainl 4 the elder ppl who culdnt mk it to the hotel.




problem? thats like double the expenditure :rubeyes: my fiance suggested that and i told him its double the work load, planning and expenses.

how do u keep it so that everyone is happy but also cost-effective .....

just not happening :rolleyes:

[angel*]

problem? thats like double the expenditure :rubeyes: my fiance suggested that and i told him its double the work load, planning and expenses.

how do u keep it so that everyone is happy but also cost-effective .....

just not happening :rolleyes:

Mmmmm well.... have like the wedding or walimah, at the village and the mehndi + weddin/walimah at the hotel??