prophet sws married aisha wen she was 6!?!?

[confuseddd]

salaamun alaikum

i was just on an islam q and a site and i came across this:

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=1493&ln=eng&txt=intercourse

i cant understand it!!! with all due respect, aisha (ra) was still a child! she was 9 years old when their marriage was consummated!! i really cannot understand that! how can u be ready 4 sex at that age? most children dont even know what sex is at that age!! i find it disgusting (but i do still love the prophet sws)...i dont understand it..she was just a child!!

[.: Anna :.]

wa alaykum salam

she was happy about the marriage and that age was something normal in that society and time. these days kids are not the same way they used to be in that time, then they were mature earlier.

[dour]

wa alaykum salam

she was happy about the marriage and that age was something normal in that society and time. these days kids are not the same way they used to be in that time, then they were mature earlier.


Acually, scientificly speaking, back then kids physicaly developed later in life. Today they actualy mature physically sooner.

[Believer1984]

wa alaykum salam

she was happy about the marriage and that age was something normal in that society and time. these days kids are not the same way they used to be in that time, then they were mature earlier.

well said and also my mother got married when she was 14.

Masha-allah in the past people matured really fast.

[.: Anna :.]

Acually, scientificly speaking, back then kids physicaly developed later in life. Today they actualy mature physically sooner.

i dont think that is the case dour.... umm ul mu2mineen aisha consumated marriage at age 9 because she became baligh in that age, most girls these days do not become @ that age more like 12 or 13 which is quite a few years later..

[aisha2007]

salaamun alaikum

i was just on an islam q and a site and i came across this:

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=1493&ln=eng&txt=intercourse

i cant understand it!!! with all due respect, aisha (ra) was still a child! she was 9 years old when their marriage was consummated!! i really cannot understand that! how can u be ready 4 sex at that age? most children dont even know what sex is at that age!! i find it disgusting (but i do still love the prophet sws)...i dont understand it..she was just a child!!


Walaikum Asalaam

Firstly I should be very careful of your wording. You are saying it is disgusting, you are then saying the Prophet peace be upon him did a dirty thing and that Allah encourages it. So be very very careful.
You are also thinking 'inside' of the box and judging by 1. todays standards and 2. earthly standards.
1. In this day and age in many countries many families have their children engaged from birth.....to keep the family together. It does not mean they are going to have a relationship in childhood...it is only forging a bond between the families. 2. The Prophet peace be upon him actaully questioned Allah about this, he knew how young Aisha was and at first wasnt comfortable. 3. She was not a child in the way you think of her. Yhis was ordained by Allah. And they consumed the marriage when she was between the ages of 9 or 10 and if you need another example of how young girls were when they were ready to marry Maryam mother of Isa peace be upon them was around 11 years old when she gave birth to Isa.
3. This is not an earthly relationship. It was brought together by the order of Allah, and who are we to question the reasoning?
4. Aisha had a brilliant mind and a remarkable memory, and Islam would not be the way it is now without her. We would have lost so much. Over 2500 hadith are attributed to her memory. She was a scholar, and had even been greeted by the Angel Jibreel aley'salaam.

So before you find things 'disgusting' try looking at your religion in the correct way, and arm yourself with facts, instead of sounding like a kaffir, becasue this is always the only stupid thing that comes out of their narrow minded mouths.

Walaikum Asalaam

[RAJMIN]

im sure i read sumwer that the prophet saw didnt have a physical relationship with Aishah until after she started menstruatin

chill out, Islam is beautiful and our prophet saw was the best
Allah knws best

[LiveIslam]

if you look at the world now. what is the age to have sex, as every country have different age. so what is the right age?:confused:

[dhakiyya]

4. Aisha had a brilliant mind and a remarkable memory, and Islam would not be the way it is now without her. We would have lost so much. Over 2500 hadith are attributed to her memory. She was a scholar, and had even been greeted by the Angel Jibreel aley'salaam.



Aisha's (ra) mind was even better than the above suggests. She was just 18 when Rasool Allah :saw: died. More hadeeth were narrated through Aisha (ra) than through any other companion, she taught Islam to men and women, (when she taught men she was behind a screen so they could hear her and not see her) she was consulted on all kinds of Islamic matters by all kinds of people. How much must she have learned, memorised and understood to be able to do this? And she learned it all by the time she was just 18 mashaAllah. She clearly had a very advanced and remarkable mind, so it would be very reasonable to suggest that she was very advanced for her years as a child. i.e. intellectually and emotionally advanced. She was also phsically advanced for her age as has been commented upon already.

As for Rasool Allah :saw: he waited until A'isha (ra) was ready before consommating the marriage. Everything we know about Muhammad :saw: including the fact that he never ever even shouted at his wives, never mind mistreat them in any way, there is no way that he would have pressurised Aisha (ra) (or any other of his wives for that matter) into doing anything she did not want to do.

Also A'isha (ra) after Muhammad :saw: died, advised many people on ettiquette between men and women for intimate marital relations. In fact most of the hadeeth on this matter come from her. If she had not been 100% comfortable with her intimate relationship with Rasool Allah :saw: (or any other aspect of her marriage to him for that matter) then she would not have been able to advise/teach others on these matters.

[abdulwakil]

Wake Up!!!!This is the Messenger of Allah you are talking about. Someone who Allah(swt) sent to this earth, someone who your Rabb described as the best example in the Quran, the last and final testament. What are you doing trying to compare him to worst of creation and their false basis for what is right and wrong. It is IRRELEVANT what anyone thinks.

[Chained_Water]

People make many disgusting allegations against the prophet(saw) and his intentions.

But remember:

1. It was a MARRIAGE: a legal, committed, responsible, public relationship, consented to by her and her parents also.. that lasted until he died, and he died in Aisha(ra)s arms.

2. There was a THREE YEAR GAP between marriage and consummation. This shows the intentions could never be doubted. The prophet(saw) waited until Aisha was mature enough, physically and otherwise and until her parents sent her to live with him.

3. Once a Jew walked past the prophet(saw) and said "poison be upon you." (in arabic the words for that and peace sound similar) and the prophet(saw) replied "and upon you" which is how one would always return a greeting of a non Muslim.. and Aisha(ra) hearing it got angry and strated cursing the Jew for saying something bad about the prophet(saw). Can you imagine how she would've reacted to the things people say about him today, or how angry she would have been if she knew that today people use her age of marriage to malign him? She would be the first to defend her husbands honour.

[Te'oma]

In a world where average life expectancy was around 30, it made sense to marry younger. Girls were married as soon as menses began while an older man could be seen as someone that had beaten the odds and would make a good father. Jews, Christians and basically everyone in the world followed a similiar model.

[-Fady-]

one other thing is if the marriage was "wrong" at that time dont u think Quraish would have used it to ridicule and abuse the Prophet(SAW)? :rolleyes:

[stephenoskie]

Ive read a book where they said that she wasnt 6 when she married him but 16 and she wasnt 9 when she moved in with him but in fact she was 19. but there has been so many arguements and so many discusstions over this. but what we do need to remmeber is that the Prophet SAW lived in a different time from us, so then it was allowed to marry gyals at that age, where as now there are laws and stuff.

You cant mixed religion with Reality, meaning that certain things happened back then cant happen now. like in the bible it talks about father getting his two daughters pregant and a brother raping his sister. Now these arent allowed today are they, due to laws and stuff.

Anyway, any one wants proof of what I just said just PM me

[jinokhanum]

wow, this is really new to me, i had no idea, i had a negative thought astagfirulla, but it was Allah swt plans, i'm just a mere mortal i shouldn't be disgusted at Allah's beautiful creation mashalla, subhannallah.

[.: Anna :.]

Ive read a book where they said that she wasnt 6 when she married him but 16 and she wasnt 9 when she moved in with him but in fact she was 19. but there has been so many arguements and so many discusstions over this. but what we do need to remmeber is that the Prophet SAW lived in a different time from us, so then it was allowed to marry gyals at that age, where as now there are laws and stuff.

You cant mixed religion with Reality, meaning that certain things happened back then cant happen now. like in the bible it talks about father getting his two daughters pregant and a brother raping his sister. Now these arent allowed today are they, due to laws and stuff.

Anyway, any one wants proof of what I just said just PM mei think the other age is seen more authentic also bc wasnt she radhiallahu anhaa around 18 at the time of his salallahu alayhi wa salam death?

[Rosey]

i cnt believe ppl are actually discusing this topic! nauzubillah, hello this is the rasul of allah saw wer talking about yh! what age rasulAllah saw married has nout got to do wid us. he was the best of creation, and whatever he saw did canot be questiond, he was the best of all men!

[Chained_Water]

i cnt believe ppl are actually discusing this topic! nauzubillah, hello this is the rasul of allah saw wer talking about yh! what age rasulAllah saw married has nout got to do wid us. he was the best of creation, and whatever he saw did canot be questiond, he was the best of all men!
Yes we know that but we are dealing with reality. You can't just close your eyes and ears to criticism and questions, you have to deal with them and Alhamdulillah we can :)

[aisha2007]

Yes we know that but we are dealing with reality. You can't just close your eyes and ears to criticism and questions, you have to deal with them and Alhamdulillah we can :)


I agree. You have to be fully informed....this is the thing that is most thrown at me since my revertion and I am glad now that I can answer...Alahmdulillah. When I first reverted I coudn't.

[Abu Nuh AMW]

i cnt believe ppl are actually discusing this topic! nauzubillah, hello this is the rasul of allah saw wer talking about yh! what age rasulAllah saw married has nout got to do wid us. he was the best of creation, and whatever he saw did canot be questiond, he was the best of all men!

asalamu'alaikum

true but we all need ease on our hearts:

{And when Ibrahim said: My Lord! show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: What! and do you not believe? He said: Yes, but that my heart may be at ease. He said: Then take four of the birds, then train them to follow you, then place on every mountain a part of them, then call them, they will come to you flying; and know that Allah is Mighty, Wise.} (Al-Baqara: 260).

and its true we may believe but sometimes we need to literally 'see it to believe it' kinda thing to strengthen our hearts firmly.

Anyhow the way I see it is simple, the two marriages of the Prophet peace be upon him that come regularly under scrutiny are the ones that were ordered by ALLAH!
so Allah ordered and planned for this to happen.
and who are we to question what Allah wants us to do? If he asked us to jump off a cliff when we get to 21 then we'd have to do it.simple as.

so if you've got a problem with the marriage to A'isha, then you've got a problem with the tawheed of Allah.

Furthermore, there was MANY amazing benefits in the marriage of A'isha Radia'ALLAHu'anha, so in what Allah orders, and to us it may seem bad, there is amazing wisdom and benefits and when we find them out that should only strength our faith not weaken it.

[Sultan]

I don't know what the big deal about the Prophet's marriage is.

Look up british or european history up to the eighteenth century. Child marriages were common.

[Ibn Sina]

http://www.muslim-answers.org/Polemics-Rebuttals/aishah.htm

[UnregisteredSis]

But she did not go to live with him until the age of 14 or so...

Society changes, those days, it was the norm to get married young, whereas nowadays, most births are probably outside of marriage, and not many people get married.

[sis_niqabi]

salam

people need to stop thinking of the prophet's (pbuh) and aisha's marriage with a 2007 thinking. yes today that would be totally gross. but 1400 years ago it was the norm for young girls to marry men that were much older than them. people didnt live as long as they do today. so women gettting married young was normal. many people didn't even live past 30 back then.

[Abu Nuh AMW]

salam

people need to stop thinking of the prophet's (pbuh) and aisha's marriage with a 2007 thinking. yes today that would be totally gross. but 1400 years ago it was the norm for young girls to marry men that were much older than them. people didnt live as long as they do today. so women gettting married young was normal. many people didn't even live past 30 back then.

asalamu'alaikum

to be honest I think people should stop thinking of the marriage from any time period thinking! It doesn't really matter what is the 'social norm' at the time and what 'society feels is normal to do', especially with the Prophet peace be upon him.

Allah ordered him to do it, and it was done. khallas.

Even if it wasn't the social norm at that time to marry young women, if Allah ordered it. it would still be done, and we would still have to accept it.
I dont think its wise to base beliefs on something that can be easily swayed, people can argue for hours what the social norms were at the time and so on and it can still put doubts in you heart, but no-one can argue with the decisions of Allah, and this is a firm belief that we have that wont be swayed within Muslims, and that belief would be strengthened once we learn the wisdoms of such a decision, and there were many in the case of the marriage to A'isha!

[ANONY]

i thought they used 2 live to b 100s of years old?? or was that other prophets?

[_Muslim_]

salam

people need to stop thinking of the prophet's (pbuh) and aisha's marriage with a 2007 thinking. yes today that would be totally gross. but 1400 years ago it was the norm for young girls to marry men that were much older than them. people didnt live as long as they do today. so women gettting married young was normal. many people didn't even live past 30 back then.

That is totally incorrect, it does not matter about the norms of today. The sunnah of the Prophet is for all times and places and not restricted to 1400 years ago. Calling it gross shows your misunderstanding of who the Prophet was and that is an evil statement. Repent to Allah.

[aly]

Assalamou alikoum bro and sis

First of all i would like to state that we - Muslims - are free to ask and to clear out any misunderstanding could affect our Eman ( as we are carefull when we talk about our prophet and allah swt )

second , the woman ( not child ) could get married at any age since she reach her ( belogh ) , as long as it will not have an effects on her health our something , and thats the case ,

the women at this peireods were capable for marrage with out any side effects or anything , even if they was only 8 years old , and if thier was something wrong or unusal about this marrage we will find kuffar Quraish use it as a clue that prophet Muhammed PBUH is a false prophet . not us after 1400 suddnly discover that ,

in egypt here in country sides girls got married on 12 to 14 years old ( some times thier is health problems with them because of this ) , but it is socially accepted .

in some country you find girls got married starting from 8 years old , another country it is wierd to got married in 21th , ???? !!!!

our body now ( because of pulliutions and lack of effort using cars and remote controll , pcs , and lefts ) are not the same like 1400 years ago , it become wicker and women ( not childs ) in the 8th are not capable to hold marriage , it is dengerous on thier bodies , so it is harram in this case , but if they are capable so why not ? because that the community not accept it !!! i dont thik so .

and allah know better

salam

[Cuno van Voorst]

So before you find things 'disgusting' try looking at your religion in the correct way, and arm yourself with facts, instead of sounding like a kaffir, becasue this is always the only stupid thing that comes out of their narrow minded mouths.

Walaikum Asalaam[/QUOTE]

Salam Aisha, you sounded quite analytical and scientific at first, there are various things to back up the 'correctness' about the marriage of Aisha. Yet, the last few sentences suprised me, sounded harsh to me. I am 'a kafir', so to say I have studied Islam intensively and have been a Muslims when I was in Thailand (I live in Europe, the Netherlands), and since I am back I have stepped back due to various reasons. I am still thinking much about becoming it again, yet constrains hold me back. Luckily I have some very respectful and peaceful friends in Thailand.

The tone you use not directly hurt me, but it shows your lack of understanding of humans with different points of view... Please be somewhat more respectful to others, 'Kafir', who not blatantly speak out, but analyse. THere are many many a people, whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim that use foul words, say things without any back-up and just blabber around. It is their own choice. Muhammad, so far as I have seen NOT on the battlefield, always respected others, irrelevant of their religion or believe, and never used bad words against them. You should do the same so I think.

Salam Alaykum

[A Friend]

actually to be more correct Mary was around the age of 14 or 15. Not 11 as previously posted. But let's put this into perspective, when the Taurat speaks of of a man capable of throwing a spear, they're talking about someone as young as 9. So it's not particularly impossible to think of Aisha being mature enough at 9 to be married. If a child is trained right, they can be mature enough to discuss philosophy and scripture as young as 5 and didn't Israel have a king who led the people back to righteousness at age 7. Now i may not be Muslim and you may ignore my comments but sighting these precedences it's not strange to view this as possible. As for the earliest post about watching what one said, it's a known fact that even the prophets sinned and No man was perfect. Muhammad may have been a prophet but that didn't make him perfect. Adam, Moses, Abraham, David, Jonah all of these men were written into scripture as sinners and all of them you consider prophets. if i offended anyone feel free to email me at qwin_tc@yahoo.co.uk and clarify. I'm not beyond approach.

[mgilani]

It was an arab custom that women were sometimes given in marriage at a very young age.The custom was that they were sent away , at a young age, to live at their future husban's house. For a lot of poor people, it worked out just fine as the future husban'd family raised the child.It was also done to forge alliance with different tribes. Knowing that esp. before islam, arabs didnt like female child, this would make sense too. Once the child grew up, the marriage would then be consumated.
As for those who have a problem with islam in particular, there will always be things that they dont want to come to terms with. As for muslims, move on........I am sure you can open the Quran and learn more than what you guys already know . This is a non issue.And lets put it to rest.It proves nothing and has nothing to do with the pillar of Islam and I am getting sick and tired of people asking this again and again.