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Very Angry
13-06-07, 12:10 AM
I am having problems where a member of my family did something very very evil and all I want to do is kill him.
I want him dead before he repents. I want him to suffer for the evil crimes he committed. I want him dead so badly it burns inside of me to think of this injustice that he still walks, talks and lives the lie while others still suffer from his actions.
He isn't in this country now but I am thinking of finding him to finish this.
Islamically he should be killed and I have no problems doing this.
I think I'm going to do it
What exactly did he do? Killing is 100% wrong in my eyes no matter what.
iknowhowufeel
14-06-07, 09:04 AM
Assalmu alaikum
im so sorry for your hurt, pain anger and grief.
i speak from expereicne so please dont think this is theoretical pie in the sky it works. you understandably have an immense degree of anger but you need to understand its purpose. Sometimes awful and devatating things happen to us because Allah tests those he love and your test now is your reaction.
i remember feeling your hatered and anger everytime i saw the human beign i reviled, i wanted to swear at him, break up his happy family and tell the wordl what a vile disgusting paedopihile he was but i couldnt, because i knew if i got any sense of revenge upon him in the dunyah it would diminish his punishment in the hereafter.
as i moved on...i realised i had to forgive him and to this day it is still so hard for me to forgive him because everytime i see him the anger comes back and i need to renew my intention to forgive that man for what he did to me. and sis/bro i see this man every day :(
again i moving on and when i ask myself why did this person do what he did to me, was i to blame? i think about this hekmaa and wisdom allah has, and how he has insight into our situations we lack the forsight or knowledge to understand.
right now i dont want this person dead because the doors of tawbah are still open for him....i pity him. he carries that sin- you dont.
your negative engergy inshallah will become more postive, you need to replace your throught of anger and hatred of ones for forgiveness evetually.
we dont have a shariah, you hurting him will not be valid, allah is the most just and the mightiest, retribution will come to him when allah deserves. all of us deserves to have the oppurtuntiy to make dua even the worst of sinners, you cannot deny anyone that right no matter how vile their actions.
i hope you heal soon :(
THE PATH 2
14-06-07, 03:41 PM
get the law involved..police,solicitors etc
uk or wherever he is
dont do anything ..which will turn you from a victim into a criminal
as far as islamic punishment goes..islam also tells us to obey the law of the land and not go out of its boundaries
truly allah will deal with this matter,believe me..
its not a matter of if but ..he will ..in his own time
make sabr too..but if you have been violated take all legal /halal measures
.: Anna :.
14-06-07, 05:17 PM
Assalmu alaikum
im so sorry for your hurt, pain anger and grief.
i speak from expereicne so please dont think this is theoretical pie in the sky it works. you understandably have an immense degree of anger but you need to understand its purpose. Sometimes awful and devatating things happen to us because Allah tests those he love and your test now is your reaction.
i remember feeling your hatered and anger everytime i saw the human beign i reviled, i wanted to swear at him, break up his happy family and tell the wordl what a vile disgusting paedopihile he was but i couldnt, because i knew if i got any sense of revenge upon him in the dunyah it would diminish his punishment in the hereafter.
as i moved on...i realised i had to forgive him and to this day it is still so hard for me to forgive him because everytime i see him the anger comes back and i need to renew my intention to forgive that man for what he did to me. and sis/bro i see this man every day :(
again i moving on and when i ask myself why did this person do what he did to me, was i to blame? i think about this hekmaa and wisdom allah has, and how he has insight into our situations we lack the forsight or knowledge to understand.
right now i dont want this person dead because the doors of tawbah are still open for him....i pity him. he carries that sin- you dont.
your negative engergy inshallah will become more postive, you need to replace your throught of anger and hatred of ones for forgiveness evetually.
we dont have a shariah, you hurting him will not be valid, allah is the most just and the mightiest, retribution will come to him when allah deserves. all of us deserves to have the oppurtuntiy to make dua even the worst of sinners, you cannot deny anyone that right no matter how vile their actions.
i hope you heal soon :(
i wanted to rep u for this one sis but i cnt cos ur not registerd...
may Allah reward u for ur sabr :love: ameen
i agree with ur sentiment... "very angry" it is difficult 2 control the anger that u r feeling, especially when u see that individual still but dont put it into something which u will regret. trust me u dnt need any more guilt and u dnt need to feel ne worse than probably u already do, if u kill this person it will just add onto ur load of burden.. i dont think it will help u as much as u think. its not the right way to go about it. best way actually is in asking Allah for help. Only Allah swt has the real power over everything, he can ease ur suffering... u cnt ease it urself by killing somebody. Only shaytan tells u this because he would like u to feel even worse and screw up ur akhira, so dont listen to him :love:
"very angry" uv said ur not in the country with him at the moment, alhamdulillah this is good because u have some space from him @ least physically... what u need to work towards is thinking about it less in ur mind. although u probly think "easier said than done :rolleyes:" u can do it @ least to an extent! look even this sister above also told how she has become a lot more positive masha allah :)
remember sis, that ur suffering can b a way to jannah... have sabr, i kno it is difficult. there is hadith which says the person who had the worst life in the world, wen that person enters jannah and Allah swt will ask him/her "did u ever know ne suffering?" because of the moment which they just stepped in Jannah, they will reply "no"... subhanallah :love: the same for the opposite the one which had the most joyful luxury life wen he enters the fire, it will be asked did u ever know ne joy, he will say no!!
everything which u suffered it will totally evaporate and its going to be totally gone, u wont even have a trace in ur mind, not even any memory... but if u want to have this, u have to have sabr insha allah... keep reminding urself. this reward is worth much more than ne joy u take in revengence... and the punishment which Allah can give to that person will be much more than what u can give them in killing them or anything else. Try ur best to not obsess about revenge, but leave it to Allaah he is the most just, he will rectify everyones matters in the best way okay? :)
get up in the last 3rd of night and make alot of dua, praying and reading quran, it will give u a chance to have some time of calm and peace and try to focus on akhira. force urself 2 keep busy n in company if that will b able 2 keep ur mind off for a bit, wen u stay by urself n think about it more and more ur gonna drown in it...
Babbage
14-06-07, 06:21 PM
I am having problems where a member of my family did something very very evil and all I want to do is kill him.
I want him dead before he repents. I want him to suffer for the evil crimes he committed. I want him dead so badly it burns inside of me to think of this injustice that he still walks, talks and lives the lie while others still suffer from his actions.
He isn't in this country now but I am thinking of finding him to finish this.
Islamically he should be killed and I have no problems doing this.
I think I'm going to do it
There are two problems here; whatever the man did and your response to it.
If this evil thing is also illegal you should see the police about it. If not, consult those who you respect and whose advice you would take. Is he likely to do it again? If so, it is all the more important that you take measures that will stop him doing it again- legal measures, that is. Killing him will only do more harm to the rest of your family.
For yourself, hatred is a destructive emotion that harms the hater more. There are more important things to do eith your life. It might be worth consulting your doctor to get an appointment with a psychologist for advice on how to avoid situations that arouse your hatred.
I am having problems where a member of my family did something very very evil and all I want to do is kill him.
I want him dead before he repents. I want him to suffer for the evil crimes he committed. I want him dead so badly it burns inside of me to think of this injustice that he still walks, talks and lives the lie while others still suffer from his actions.
He isn't in this country now but I am thinking of finding him to finish this.
Islamically he should be killed and I have no problems doing this.
I think I'm going to do it
since this person is not in the same country as you, i'm assuming what you have heard about this person is from a third party.
do not come to conclusions without both sides of the story. the information you have might be 100% correct, but there is a chance that it may not all be true.
there are people that exist that slander others in attempt to discredit and destroy them.
heaven2002
14-06-07, 07:53 PM
Let Allah be the judge, jury and punisher
Very Angry
15-06-07, 12:24 PM
since this person is not in the same country as you, i'm assuming what you have heard about this person is from a third party.
do not come to conclusions without both sides of the story. the information you have might be 100% correct, but there is a chance that it may not all be true.
there are people that exist that slander others in attempt to discredit and destroy them.
Trust me when i say it's 100% correct. I must also say that this persons family are waiting for this vile man to die. I however have no problem with doing what is justice. To kill the evil person is to stop what he does. By waiting he has committed his evil acts again. It needs to be stopped. I have come to the conclusion that if i see him or if he comes to this country i will kill him, but i will have to do it in a way that it doesn't come back, purely so the people involved do not get publically linked as their suffering will be exposed. This is the same reason why the law cannot get involved.
Babbage
16-06-07, 08:15 AM
Trust me when i say it's 100% correct. I must also say that this persons family are waiting for this vile man to die. I however have no problem with doing what is justice. To kill the evil person is to stop what he does. By waiting he has committed his evil acts again. It needs to be stopped. I have come to the conclusion that if i see him or if he comes to this country i will kill him, but i will have to do it in a way that it doesn't come back, purely so the people involved do not get publically linked as their suffering will be exposed. This is the same reason why the law cannot get involved.
You said in your first post that he was a member of your family; now you speak as though you are not connected. In either case, there is often a big difference between what actually happened and what people persuade themselves happened. Even if the man is as bad as you believe, if you do try to kill him you will almost certainly fail "to do it in a way that it doesn't come back", so that whatever you fear being exposed will be exposed and you will hyave made a mess of your own life too.
If he is likely to do whatever it is again, he is a danger wherever he is and the police should be told so they can notify the police of whatever country he is in. If his family testify against him in court there is no shame on them and others will know that they cannot rely on their family's shame to force them to silence if they do the same thing. However, the fact that you seem obsessed with this is evidence of the harm you are doing to yourself already.
assalaamu alaykum,
my advice is that you shouldn't take the law into your own hands, if the man lives in a muslim land, let the judge deal with him and know that Allaah is Just, He will deal with him here or in the aakhirah.
many sins make us mad but shirk is the greatest sin, and killing a person is a major sin if not done according to the shariah.
read these ayaat and hadeeth:
"If you refrain from the kaba’ir (major sins) you have been prohibited from, We will expiate your sayyi’aat (minor sins) and place you in the Jannah." [Surah al-Nisaa, Ayah 31]
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Sahih Bukhari
Volume 9, Book 85, Number 84:
Narrated Anas:
Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed," A man said, "O Allah's Apostle! I will help him if he is oppressed, but if he is an oppressor, how shall I help him?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing (others), for that is how to help him."
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Abdullah bin Masud narrated that the messenger of Allah said :
"The blood of a Muslim may not be legally spilt other than in one of three [instances] : the married person who commits adultery; a life for a life; and one who forsakes his religion and abandons the community."
it was related by Bukhari and Muslim
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Verily, Allah forgives not that rivals should be set up in the worship with Him. He forgives save that (anything else) to whom He pleases and whoever set up rivals with Allah he has indeed done a tremendous sin. (Al Nisa:48)
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Speaking About Allah (swt) Without Knowledge
Jamaal al-Din Zarabozo
Transcribed from tape "Usool at-Tafseer" (1/12)
In fact, Ibn ul Qayyim said that it is the greatest sin. Ibn ul Qayyim said that speaking about Allaah swt without `ilm is the greatest sin that you could commit. He bases it on this verse:
"Say: The things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are al-Fawaahishah (great evil sins, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.), whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppession, joining partners (in worship) with Allaah for which He has given no authority and saying things about Allaah of which you have no knowledge." [The Noble Qur'aan, 7:33]
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may Allaah strenghten you and grant you sabr in this time of fitnah, please don't throw your life away for this creep, hasn't he hurt you enough.
$HugoBoss$
17-06-07, 12:05 AM
He'll pay for his sins, murder is a major sin, don't make your hands bloody for a sinner.
stephenoskie
18-06-07, 09:15 AM
You cant pay him pay for his sins, but Allahs power is far more greater than yours, you carry on with your life and practice, trust me Allah wil sort him out
Believer1984
22-06-07, 11:44 PM
Woahhh !
If your still about then read this......
TAKE ISLAM SERIOUS ! NOT RANDOM PEOPLE !
Its horrible to see that we take the wordly actions so serious but never Islam.
Be patient ! Allah(swt) is all aware.
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dont be an idiot, by killing him you are going to throw yourself into a hell in this world, why to punish yourself for the crimes someone else committed. i can understand your anger my dear sis/bro but it's better to give all details of what he did, so we can better give a good advise to our dear sis/bro. and yes dont try to do anything stupid which would not only give you a bad name but your family too, it will be injustice to others. don't punish yourself and your loved ones my dear sis/bro for what he did. if he's really an evil man then curse him as our Prophet cursed evil people, curse him after every prayers, Allah is the best judge inshaallah.
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