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algharib
12-06-07, 01:35 PM
I have noticed in America and the uk, the growing number of divorced sisters escalating day by day. In the Uk unfortunatly, many of our Somalian sisters have been divorced so much that it's possible that the divorce sisters can out number the un married sisters. Frankly on a serious note, this is bad for the sisters, and such can bring so much destruction to our Ummah. I would appreciate you share some light on this issue.
Amellia
12-06-07, 01:46 PM
:salams
Ermm I think you are causing fitnah with this thread.
Your status says "Qatar" and u are speaking of the uk as though you live there and the US. Let me tell you something, Ive been to both countries and happen to live in the US and know alot of Somali sisters and what you posted is not very truthful.
I hope that the mods delete this thread.
If you are concerned of the Ummah atleast speak generally there are more truthful horrible things happening to the ummah that are causing more destruction rather generalising an entire ethnity as u just sis.
Barakalahu feek.
sunny_skies
12-06-07, 01:49 PM
Look at it in another way: there is an alarming rate of Muslim brothers ill-treating their wives, which is leading to a high divorce rate. I can truly say I have come across many cases within my own friends and family of this happening.
Why say 'The alarming rate of divorce cases among our sisters'??
ur_yusra
12-06-07, 02:00 PM
If men werent so stupid there wouldn't be such a high divorce rate.
I have noticed in America and the uk, the growing number of divorced sisters escalating day by day. In the Uk unfortunatly, many of our Somalian sisters have been divorced so much that it's possible that the divorce sisters can out number the un married sisters. Frankly on a serious note, this is bad for the sisters, and such can bring so much destruction to our Ummah. I would appreciate you share some light on this issue.
Why have you singled out Somali women? You have no right to talk about something you have no knowledge about. You're not even Somali! How do you know the number of divorced Somali women in the UK? Did you carry out a survey or something?
If men werent so stupid there wouldn't be such a high divorce rate.
Very unconstructive response.
algharib
12-06-07, 02:17 PM
:salams
Ermm I think you are causing fitnah with this thread.
Your status says "Qatar" and u are speaking of the uk as though you live there and the US. Let me tell you something, Ive been to both countries and happen to live in the US and know alot of Somali sisters and what you posted is not very truthful.
I hope that the mods delete this thread.
If you are concerned of the Ummah atleast speak generally there are more truthful horrible things happening to the ummah that are causing more destruction rather generalising an entire ethnity as u just sis.
Barakalahu feek.
Assalamu alaikum dear sister Amellia.Take it easy on me, remeber im your brother in Islam,your defender if anyone tries to dishonor you. I pray Allah gives me the Iman to spill my blood to defend brothers and sisters that i do not know. You should not address me in this manner, because Muslims in their love and honor are like one body. I am not more evil than fir'aon and your not more religious than Musa(as). Were merciful to each other right? Speaking about knowing the reality of the muslims in the uk, well london is like a second home for me and from my analysis it's indeed true many of our sisters are been divorced, especially Somalians(beg your pardon) its a reality, a fact for whoever has eyes. I am not saying that all Somalian muslima's are evil. Infact the third sweetest muslimah i have ever known comes from Somalia. Both genders have faults in regards to the present state of marriages around the world, u see ukti i want us to find solutions to such problems so we can all gain Allah's Pleasure, is'nt that'a why were here in Ummah forums trying to bring help and benefit to Muslims everywhere. Give your brothers and sisters a squeeze as well as benefit of the doubt. I pray Allah preserves you and brings unity to our amazing Ummah.:up:
sis_niqabi
12-06-07, 02:18 PM
salam
i think the high rate of divorce is due to Muslim not following what the quran and sunnah says. most of the divorces I've seen are due to one of the spouses or both of them not following what the quran and sunnah says about solving certain problems. is more Muslim couples would stick to the quran and sunnah there would be less problems arising in their marriages.
and to the people that is criticising the person based on their states say Qatar. a quick note: the majority of people in Qatar are expats. maybe the thread starter in from the UK but living in Qatar. I'm American and i also live in Qatar. so don't assume this person is Qatari.
Na'eemah
12-06-07, 02:19 PM
It takes 2 to divorce.
It's not sisters divorcing sisters is it?
The UAE divorce rate currently stands at 46%. Its not that far behind the supposed "corrupt West's" divorce rate.
Assalamu alaikum dear sister Amellia.Take it easy on me, remeber im your brother in Islam,your defender if anyone tries to dishonor you. I pray Allah gives me the Iman to spill my blood to defend brothers and sisters that i do not know. You should not address me in this manner, because Muslims in their love and honor are like one body. I am not more evil than fir'aon and your not more religious than Musa(as). Were merciful to each other right? Speaking about knowing the reality of the muslims in the uk, well london is like a second home for me and from my analysis it's indeed true many of our sisters are been divorced, especially Somalians(beg your pardon) its a reality, a fact for whoever has eyes. I am not sayig that there all evil. Infact the third sweetest muslimah i have ever known comes from Somalia. Both genders have faults in regards to the present state of marriages around the world, u see ukti i want us to find solutions to such problems so we can all gain Allah's Pleasure, is'nt that'a why were here in Ummah forums trying to bring help and benefit to Muslims everywhere. Give your brothers and sisters a squeeze as well as benefit of the doubt. I pray Allah preserves you and brings unity to our amazing Ummah.:up:
You have some nerve! You really do. You do not even live in London, so how can you comment on the marriages and divorces of people in London? How you can talk about Somali women in particular is also beyond me! Unless you have some concrete evidence to support your stupid generalization, I suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself.
As a Somali woman, I can honestly say that I know more married Somali women than divorced. I live in London and I live around many fellow Somalis. You should not post uninformed, throw-away comments, even if you have something against Somali women (which you have shown before that you do) :rolleyes:
algharib
12-06-07, 02:42 PM
salam
i think the high rate of divorce is due to Muslim not following what the quran and sunnah says. most of the divorces I've seen are due to one of the spouses or both of them not following what the quran and sunnah says about solving certain problems. is more Muslim couples would stick to the quran and sunnah there would be less problems arising in their marriages.
and to the people that is criticising the person based on their states say Qatar. a quick note: the majority of people in Qatar are expats. maybe the thread starter in from the UK but living in Qatar. I'm American and i also live in Qatar. so don't assume this person is Qatari.
From what u mentioned in your first paragraph is quite true, and if we stuck more to Quran and Sunnah life would be better for us. In your second paragraph i don't see the point,or your business in finding out whether im Qatari or britani, it does not concern you so please back off from being all in my business ukti. And if you want to know whether im from uk, well no, but there's arab/Qurayshe blood running in me. Sis Niqaabi why u and them other uktii's wanna point your rage and irrational behaviour towards me when im your BROTHER FILAH,khallas,faqat
Le Croyant
12-06-07, 02:52 PM
Look at it in another way: there is an alarming rate of Muslim brothers ill-treating their wives, which is leading to a high divorce rate.
Why say 'The alarming rate of divorce cases among our sisters'??
sis... there r numerous reason and many time lack of patience on both sides is the primary reason. We r GenX, we want quick solutions & tend to get bored very quickly. I see that laying the groundwork for many divorces... not only in UK but even in Arab countries.
the topic starter mentioned sisters as he was concerned abt them but u rite, if it's rising among sister, the same can b seen on brother's side.
If men we aren't so stupid there wouldn't be such a high divorce rate.
outta place.
From what u mentioned in your first paragraph is quite true, and if we stuck more to Quran and Sunnah life would be better for us. In your second paragraph i don't see the point,or your business in finding out whether im Qatari or britani, it does not concern you so please back off from being all in my business ukti. And if you want to know whether im from uk, well no, but there's arab/Qurayshe blood running in me. Sis Niqaabi why u and them other uktii's wanna point your rage and irrational behaviour towards me when im your BROTHER FILAH,khallas,faqat
Where you're from is irrelevant. I don't give a damn if you're from Qatar, Britain, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Congo. The fact is that you do not live in the Somali community in London, so you can't talk about Somalis.
Oh and it's funny how you haven't dared to address my posts yet. Truth crushes falsehood.
shamson
12-06-07, 03:03 PM
Auwdhobilla please please ppl calm down:( Ok brother you need to forward proof for your comments as you can see it has caused offence and inshAllah if you put forward the proof the sister may inshAllah retract her comments. #
There is much fitnah all around the world not just the west although it is very open here which makes it easier for ppl to judge. Allah has made women the greatest fitnah for men (coz yes we are there weakness) For married couples jealousy is a major issue and especially if the brother chooses to take another wife. I know of cases where so called 'muslims' have resorted to black magic (sihr) subhanAllah to deal with this and the harm has escalated 3 folds!
I know it is hard when it comes to our nafs but if brothers and sisters would follow Qur'an and Sunnah and have patience then the reward is with Allah.
Sometimes divorce is the better option when couples feel that they can no longer deal with the issues within their marriage and QadrAllah they seperate. This isn't something that is alien in islam and I think we should just leave it with Allah. Brothers and sisters have to answer to Allah for their actions and live with the consequences of their action. If they are just their reward is with Allah and if they are unjust their judge is Allah.
shamson
12-06-07, 03:09 PM
And I think the title should be renamed 'alarming rates of divorce among the MUSLIMS'
algharib
12-06-07, 04:08 PM
Where you're from is irrelevant. I don't give a damn if you're from Qatar, Britain, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Congo. The fact is that you do not live in the Somali community in London, so you can't talk about Somalis.
Oh and it's funny how you haven't dared to address my posts yet. Truth crushes falsehood.
Well my little sister Asmara(may Allah preserve u), since u want my attention,im here. I see u perceive me to be a full fledged hater of the Somali people? if that is your perception then its false and wrong.It amazes me how u think that way, despite your inteligence and the goodness and kindness i have seen from you ukti. Were here to undertnd our din and not to win arguments, remember pride and ego destroys people.How so sure can you be that i do not know the Somali community in london, let me tell u something i have a niece that is Somali and secondly i have met your people back home,tell me does someone that hates Somalians care to visit and help them, i mean live and sleep in their homes litreally.There are some ulama and mujahidin, and muhajireen(helpers) that are skeptical in travelling to Somali to aid them due to their tribalism that is based on tribalism and not Aqeedah. Among the Somalians are good muslims,among the Somalians are bad people, understand me, what im saying is they need to be educated more on recognizing the implications and consequences of nationalism that has destoyed a lot of their people.A lot Somalis have love and compassion for muslims and could be exceptionally generous to prefer to help someone while at the same time they deny themselves.They do have quite a number of Pious sisters, one can never tell maybe my future wife might be a Somali lol.
Understand me,Somalians are not the only muslims with such problems, you have even my people,asians,africans etc involved, but atleast lets try to do our best to fix it, and not attack each other this way and this is not the adab of Ahl sunna wal jamaah. I should not expect such an attack from a muslimah, especially you Asmara,a Muslim flower like you...ya Sallam!
algharib
12-06-07, 04:14 PM
Unfortunatly these days women can become so difficult, even among our Muslim flowers. Marriage is difficult as well cause a lot of peole lack sabr and ettiquettes etc. Its a pity,may Allah guide everyone of us,amin.
Amellia
12-06-07, 04:17 PM
Assalamu alaikum dear sister Amellia.Take it easy on me, remeber im your brother in Islam,your defender if anyone tries to dishonor you. I pray Allah gives me the Iman to spill my blood to defend brothers and sisters that i do not know. You should not address me in this manner, because Muslims in their love and honor are like one body. I am not more evil than fir'aon and your not more religious than Musa(as). Were merciful to each other right? Speaking about knowing the reality of the muslims in the uk, well london is like a second home for me and from my analysis it's indeed true many of our sisters are been divorced, especially Somalians(beg your pardon) its a reality, a fact for whoever has eyes. I am not saying that all Somalian muslima's are evil. Infact the third sweetest muslimah i have ever known comes from Somalia. Both genders have faults in regards to the present state of marriages around the world, u see ukti i want us to find solutions to such problems so we can all gain Allah's Pleasure, is'nt that'a why were here in Ummah forums trying to bring help and benefit to Muslims everywhere. Give your brothers and sisters a squeeze as well as benefit of the doubt. I pray Allah preserves you and brings unity to our amazing Ummah.:up:
Alright Brother I'm sorry, I didnt meant to jump you or anything its jst that you are speaking as though you live in the somali community or as their spokes person
I dont appreciate them being bashed when the things you mentioned are not entirely true.
In the future can we not single out an entire race of people and give them a label and unfair one too?
Thanks...and ameen to us duas. I would defend people from Qatar if someone started a thread and said something about Qatari sisters.
shamson
12-06-07, 04:27 PM
Alhumdolilla - next subject please inshAllah
Tax-Man
12-06-07, 04:31 PM
Man divorce sucks I don't think I could handle it
we cant blame one sex more than the other, unless u have lived with each divorced couple in this world and saw how they reached that stage :rolleyes:
these things happen becos imaan is not strong in individuals, they have lack of knowledge of how an islamic marriage should be and hence they do not fulfill each others rights
DIVORCE Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:1popcorn:
algharib
12-06-07, 05:02 PM
DIVORCE Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:1popcorn:
Ukti if u joke with such serious issues the joke might drop on u. We can be humourous and crack all up, but we have limits because were Muslims. One of my Shaykhs advised me that " if u joke a lot, you'll even take the mickey on the deen which would eventually lead to kufr. This is brotherly advise and please no love lost.:up:
Mods: please close this thread.
heaven2002
12-06-07, 05:54 PM
unless you've actually gone through an unhappy marriage and then a divorce i dont see how you can talk about the topic with any deep understanding
$HugoBoss$
12-06-07, 05:56 PM
Thats why you shouldn't be forced to marry someone you don't want to, especially when it's your cousin :rolleyes:
The alarming rate of divorce cases among our sisters
:scratch:
:eek3:
And I think the title should be renamed 'alarming rates of divorce among the MUSLIMS'
Thank you :coolbro:
Well my little sister Asmara(may Allah preserve u), since u want my attention,im here. I see u perceive me to be a full fledged hater of the Somali people? if that is your perception then its false and wrong.It amazes me how u think that way, despite your inteligence and the goodness and kindness i have seen from you ukti. Were here to undertnd our din and not to win arguments, remember pride and ego destroys people.How so sure can you be that i do not know the Somali community in london, let me tell u something i have a niece that is Somali and secondly i have met your people back home,tell me does someone that hates Somalians care to visit and help them, i mean live and sleep in their homes litreally.There are some ulama and mujahidin, and muhajireen(helpers) that are skeptical in travelling to Somali to aid them due to their tribalism that is based on tribalism and not Aqeedah. Among the Somalians are good muslims,among the Somalians are bad people, understand me, what im saying is they need to be educated more on recognizing the implications and consequences of nationalism that has destoyed a lot of their people.A lot Somalis have love and compassion for muslims and could be exceptionally generous to prefer to help someone while at the same time they deny themselves.They do have quite a number of Pious sisters, one can never tell maybe my future wife might be a Somali lol.
Understand me,Somalians are not the only muslims with such problems, you have even my people,asians,africans etc involved, but atleast lets try to do our best to fix it, and not attack each other this way and this is not the adab of Ahl sunna wal jamaah. I should not expect such an attack from a muslimah, especially you Asmara,a Muslim flower like you...ya Sallam!
Your niece being Somali does not excuse that you said Somali women are mostly divorcees who are bringing about the destruction of the Ummah. What a thing to say! Calling me a muslim flower does not make me feel any better about what you said either.
I'll just leave you to your Lord. I apologize if I insulted you in any way but what you said was 100% wrong. I just wish that I hadn't bothered addressing you :banghead: Don't know why I bothered :lailah:
Understand me,Somalians are not the only muslims with such problems, you have even my people,asians,africans etc involved, but atleast lets try to do our best to fix it, and not attack each other this way and this is not the adab of Ahl sunna wal jamaah. I should not expect such an attack from a muslimah, especially you Asmara,a Muslim flower like you...ya Sallam!
:jkk: for the clarification.
i think its your accusatory (is that a word :scratch: thread title) and your first post implicating solmali women is what antagonised folk.
but youve rectified it alhamdolillah:)
Ask yourself this; why do you want to get married?
And is that reason enough to justify whatever problems may arise in wedlock? In most cases, the answer is a firm No.
What is this focus on Somali woman? 99% of women deserve nothing full stop. They're all just as bad.
Ask yourself this; why do you want to get married?
And is that reason enough to justify whatever problems may arise in wedlock? In most cases, the answer is a firm No.
What is this focus on Somali woman? 99% of women deserve nothing full stop. They're all just as bad.
This is business, no need to bring personal grudges in :p
THHuxley
12-06-07, 07:17 PM
I have noticed in America and the uk, the growing number of divorced sisters escalating day by day. In the Uk unfortunatly, many of our Somalian sisters have been divorced so much that it's possible that the divorce sisters can out number the un married sisters. Frankly on a serious note, this is bad for the sisters, and such can bring so much destruction to our Ummah. I would appreciate you share some light on this issue.
Uhhhh... wouldn't that require divorced "brothers" as well?
Le Croyant
12-06-07, 07:19 PM
yup.. but he's only sympathetic to sisters. bros don't matter.
This is business, no need to bring personal grudges in :p
I have no personal grudges. Just alot of baggage :rolleyes:
algharib
12-06-07, 08:53 PM
I'll just leave you to your Lord. I apologize if I insulted you in any way but what you said was 100% wrong. I just wish that I hadn't bothered addressing you :banghead: Don't know why I bothered :lailah:
Your apology is accepted and i appreciate it, pls forgive me, if i did bring pain and sadness to u, cuz by Allah it was not deliberate. Like Imam Abu Hanifa(rahimuhullah) said:" Our hearts are open to those that have wronged us". I have another advise for you Asmara(may Allah preserve u),amin. My nasiya is never regret a good deed as long as u did it to gain Allah's Pleasure, because u mentioned that u wish that u hadn't bothered to adress me and don't know why u bothered. Tell me do u have the hukm(ruling) from Quran and Sunnah that teaches us not to give nasiya's to our brothers and sisters even though they'll reject the message. The Sunnah teaches us that our message is to deliver the message and leave the rest,the guidance to none but Allah Azza wal jal. I hope there is no longer bad blood from u towards me and you'll be different and more lenient with me next time insha'Allah. I still love and appreciate u as my sister filah, and well by Allah's permission correct u where i see u slip and as wll remember u often in my duas despite how much u despise me even though what i said has a lot of haq in it because what i said had no shirk,no kufr so i should not be bashed this way or do u prefer to treat me this way and turn me into a monster that is our to dishonor the Precious Somali Muslimah's??? Insha'Allah that shall never come to pass. You hardly know me and your talking to me this way, is that right? think deeply in regards to this situation of ours but remember to be true to Allah, me and yourself and you'll come out with a positive outcome insha'Allah.
you can't just blame women as the source of the divorce - it takes 2 to tango. What a horrid generalisation u have made.
I think mods need to close this thread, there's no good in it.
algharib
12-06-07, 09:48 PM
I think world war 3 has been declared against me by some sisters that want to misunderstand me. May Allah give me and the brothers\sisters pious spouses that have sabr jamil,hikma and fiqh(understanding of the deen)
dhakiyya
12-06-07, 09:56 PM
Has anyone checked whether they are genuine divorces, or "divorces" by British law to allow the husband to bring second/third/fourth wives into the country?
Has anyone checked whether they are genuine divorces, or "divorces" by British law to allow the husband to bring second/third/fourth wives into the country?
Last time I checked it was illegal to have more than one wife in the UK. Don't know if they have changed that law.
dhakiyya
12-06-07, 10:50 PM
Last time I checked it was illegal to have more than one wife in the UK. Don't know if they have changed that law.
it is illegal to have more than one wife. Hence "divorcing" ;) wife no 1 (but only by British law not Islamic law) to free him up to marry the second wife (or to bring the second wife who he is married to in his country of origin into Britain)
tux08902
12-06-07, 10:53 PM
The UAE divorce rate currently stands at 46%. Its not that far behind the supposed "corrupt West's" divorce rate.
In Arab countries, divorce can come from another problem that's not present and probably will never be in the West: polygamy. Many Arab men have several wives, and when the men can't satisfy each of their wives, then that is sufficient reason for a divorce.
Also, divorce is a very touchy statistic and a flawed one in that it defames the institution of marriage. That divorce rate shows that 46 out of 100 marriages end in divorce. The people who divorce then remarry, then some get divorced again. That throws off the statistic.
Enigma Dreamer
12-06-07, 10:55 PM
Why have you singled out Somali women? You have no right to talk about something you have no knowledge about. You're not even Somali! How do you know the number of divorced Somali women in the UK? Did you carry out a survey or something?
Bro, cool down. Just ask it in a brotherly way. I undretsand the anger though :) InshaaAllah, you will udnerstand each other.
dhakiyya
12-06-07, 11:03 PM
I don't think you can say that a low divorce rate is always a good thing. For example, if people are staying in abusive marriages because they are afraid of the social stigma of divorce, then a low divorce rate is not a sign of good marriages or a good society.
Even in the best society, some marriages will not work out, a tiny number of people will still be abusive for whatever reason, and some people will just not turn out to be compatable. And tux's point about serial divorcees is an important one. If someone has not learned from mistakes they made if they are the cause of their first divorce, then either they will have to marry someone so timid they will not stand up for their rights, or their next marriage will also end in divorce.
Simply looking at the percentage of marriages that end in divorce is not enough.
sis_niqabi
13-06-07, 03:13 PM
From what u mentioned in your first paragraph is quite true, and if we stuck more to Quran and Sunnah life would be better for us. In your second paragraph i don't see the point,or your business in finding out whether im Qatari or britani, it does not concern you so please back off from being all in my business ukti. And if you want to know whether im from uk, well no, but there's arab/Qurayshe blood running in me. Sis Niqaabi why u and them other uktii's wanna point your rage and irrational behaviour towards me when im your BROTHER FILAH,khallas,faqat
ukti/ahki
i could care less where you are from. i was just defending you because some of the posters said that your statement lack credibility because you stats said qatar. and they were assuming you are qatari. so i wasn't all up in your business. i was giving you the benefit of the doubt( that is what a muslim is supposed to do). my statement was not in at rage towards you.
algharib
13-06-07, 03:48 PM
ukti/ahki
i could care less where you are from. i was just defending you because some of the posters said that your statement lack credibility because you stats said qatar. and they were assuming you are qatari. so i wasn't all up in your business. i was giving you the benefit of the doubt( that is what a muslim is supposed to do). my statement was not in at rage towards you.
I am an akhi and not an ukti. Jazakiallahu khayrun for your understanding.Please anyone that happens to see our beloved sister Asmara, should kindly convey my salams.Barakallahu feekum.
Muslim Online
13-06-07, 10:45 PM
All those happily living in the UK the US and whatnot. Is it Islaamically allowed for you to fake-divorce for polygany?
I am an akhi and not an ukti. Jazakiallahu khayrun for your understanding.Please anyone that happens to see our beloved sister Asmara, should kindly convey my salams.Barakallahu feekum.
You salams have been coveyed.
I have found something very interesting about divorce rates by country on this site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate
Qatar leads the Muslim countries in divorce rate, yet you want to concentrate on the divorce rate among Somali women who live in the US and UK? Strange. Perhaps you should look a little closer to home brother.
algharib
16-06-07, 02:49 PM
You salams have been coveyed.
I have found something very interesting about divorce rates by country on this site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate
Qatar leads the Muslim countries in divorce rate, yet you want to concentrate on the divorce rate among Somali women who live in the US and UK? Strange. Perhaps you should look a little closer to home brother.
Masha'Allah! i appreciate ur understanding,breakup/make up is one of the sweetest joys one can experience. Insha'Allah i will never be specific next time but will speak on general terms and im sure ukti your not a nationalist. May Allah recitify the affairs of Muslims everywhere and may I be granted a Somali wife! oops i did it again............
Songbird
16-06-07, 04:53 PM
It takes 2 to divorce.
It's not sisters divorcing sisters is it?
Lol, you tell 'em ukht. As soon as I saw this thread, that was my immediate thought.
To the not-so-clever little boy that initiated this thread: humans tend to marry humans and most tend to marry the opposite sex too. Now be a good boy and do the math.
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 05:03 PM
It's usually the females fault, most of the time. They think they can have anything they want and most women turn the husbands against their own parents, women are evil :buttkick:
algharib
16-06-07, 05:50 PM
It's usually the females fault, most of the time. They think they can have anything they want and most women turn the husbands against their own parents, women are evil :buttkick:
Akhi, some but not all... You should remember there are amazing pious sisters out there that bring a lot of good not just to their familes but to our Ummah. Make this dua and Allah will grant u such sisters
"Our Lord bestow upon our wives and off spring to be the comfort of our eyes and make us the leaders of the Muttaqun(Pious people)."(Surah Furqan:74)
...Then do your best to be minful of Allah by following His Shariah law. And the very best of the best will come towards you insha'Allah. May Allah grant us what is best for us,amin.
aisha2007
16-06-07, 06:03 PM
I have no personal grudges. Just alot of baggage :rolleyes:
then you need to leave it at lost luggage
don't judge everyone the same!!!
aisha2007
16-06-07, 06:06 PM
It's usually the females fault, most of the time. They think they can have anything they want and most women turn the husbands against their own parents, women are evil :buttkick:
women are evil?
do you consider yourself a good muslim talking like that?
Is your mother evil?
Have you considered if someone has treated you badly that you may well have been partly to blame?
Read your quoran.
sunny_skies
16-06-07, 06:17 PM
It's usually the females fault, most of the time. They think they can have anything they want and most women turn the husbands against their own parents, women are evil :buttkick:
Ok, Im going to assume that your'e joking.
On the other hand, we could also say something along the lines of 'It's usually the males fault, they think they can abuse the wife's rights, treat her badly then divorce her or even re-marry without divorcing her whenever they feel like it. They beat the woman if and when they feel like it, they deny her rights that Islam grants her. Men are evil.
Hmm, how does that feel? It's a sweeping generalisation, just like yours.
Songbird
16-06-07, 06:33 PM
Aisha and sunny skies, replying to Hugo is like giving in to a 2 year old throwing a tantrum.
Best left ignored.
It's usually the females fault, most of the time. They think they can have anything they want and most women turn the husbands against their own parents, women are evil :buttkick:
come on bro, I can't believe what your saying her... :smack:
I mean who exactly keeps count of Blame? and tallies up who's fault it is for divorce?
:jkk:
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:18 PM
Akhi, some but not all... You should remember there are amazing pious sisters out there that bring a lot of good not just to their familes but to our Ummah. Make this dua and Allah will grant u such sisters
"Our Lord bestow upon our wives and off spring to be the comfort of our eyes and make us the leaders of the Muttaqun(Pious people)."(Surah Furqan:74)
...Then do your best to be minful of Allah by following His Shariah law. And the very best of the best will come towards you insha'Allah. May Allah grant us what is best for us,amin.
I'm not talking about pious muslim sisters, i'm talking about women in general. I know that verse of the quran maybe women should start implementing it.
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:19 PM
women are evil?
do you consider yourself a good muslim talking like that?
Is your mother evil?
Have you considered if someone has treated you badly that you may well have been partly to blame?
Read your quoran.
yes
yes
no
no
it's spelt quran :rolleyes:
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:20 PM
Ok, Im going to assume that your'e joking.
On the other hand, we could also say something along the lines of 'It's usually the males fault, they think they can abuse the wife's rights, treat her badly then divorce her or even re-marry without divorcing her whenever they feel like it. They beat the woman if and when they feel like it, they deny her rights that Islam grants her. Men are evil.
Hmm, how does that feel? It's a sweeping generalisation, just like yours.
It feels great, never felt any better if you had to ask :cool:
Talk about some sexist posts. :rolleyes:
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:29 PM
come on bro, I can't believe what your saying her... :smack:
I mean who exactly keeps count of Blame? and tallies up who's fault it is for divorce?
:jkk:
Well i really meant that in the real life situations that i've seen or heared of it was almost all the time the womens fault. It usually is and i'm not just talking about muslim sisters, women in general. Thats why there's more women in hell than men, women are ungratefull.
Two most evil things: What people always fight over
#1 Money
#2 Women
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28
The bro's know what i'm talking about, it's hard to swallow the truth sometimes
Well i really meant that in the real life situations that i've seen or heared of it was almost all the time the womens fault. It usually is and i'm not just talking about muslim sisters, women in general. Thats why there's more women in hell than men, women are ungratefull.
Two most evil things: What people always fight over
#1 Money
#2 Women
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28
The bro's know what i'm talking about, it's hard to swallow the truth sometimes
why do some people on here generalise so much? and wat u hav written in your above post could not b mor twisted&taken out of context.
& if u genuinely standby wat u hav written ,can i ask ,wen u get married wat do u think u r going to b marrying?a tree? u no its a "evil" WOMAN dnt u?
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:44 PM
why do some people on here generalise so much? and wat u hav written in your above post could not b mor twisted&taken out of context.
& if u genuinely standby wat u hav written ,can i ask ,wen u get married wat do u think u r going to b marrying?a tree? u no its a "evil" WOMAN dnt u?
I'm not gonna bother arguing with you, you just won't understand. I never said all women are evil, i said women are evil. I made sure my fiance isn't EVIL before i decided to get married to her, so therefore no i'm not marrying evil.
I never said all women are evil, i said women are evil.
lol, bro same thing.
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:51 PM
lol, bro same thing.
sorry meant most women :D
sorry meant most women
oh, ok yh agree with you on that.
$HugoBoss$
16-06-07, 11:53 PM
oh, ok yh agree with you on that.
cheers :up:
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