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Raising Muslim kids with Down's Syndrome
Written by Shyrose Jaffer-Dhalla


The ominous tone of the doctor's words shattered the cheerful atmosphere of the hospital maternity room where Sukaina Syed had given birth to a beautiful baby boy, just two days earlier.

She recalls the scene vividly for it is a moment of her life that is forever etched in her memory. "Mrs. Syed," said the doctor. "There is something important that I must discuss with you in private."

Syed remembers the doctor's serious face and that sickening feeling of dread that had suddenly come upon her. "My mother was sitting across from me, my husband was by my side and the baby was playing in the bassinet at the foot of the bed.

"The doctor asked my mother to leave the room but I said, 'No, whatever you have to say, you can say it in front of her', and that was when he said the words that changed our lives forever. He said, 'Mrs. Syed, we strongly suspect that your child has Down's Syndrome'.

"We were completely rooted to the spot. I felt as if I had become paralyzed and I couldn't hear anything else that he was saying to me. My mother and husband's eyes were wide with shock as we watched the doctor place the child on the examining table and remove the baby's clothes. And then he looked at us and slowly nodded in confirmation.

More tests were needed, he said, but all the signs indicated that the initial diagnosis was correct. And then he left the room to order the tests."

Syed takes a deep breath as she remembers that fateful scene. "Each of us was just stunned. We were unable to even speak. And then, the baby started to cry. We saw him there, small and totally naked, his arms and legs kicking away like little babies do, crying his eyes out. And we just couldn't move to pick him up.

"I think the world was just spinning around me, I could hear him crying and I felt as if the earth should open up and just swallow me. He cried and cried and I summoned up all of my inner strength and told myself that I must pick him up.

"I went towards him and my legs were wobbling. I felt as if someone had thrown freezing cold water on me. I took him in my arms and I held him close to my heart and I thought to myself, 'this is my child, this is my Abbas' and I said to Allah, 'If you have given me this challenge, then I shall face it'."



What is Down's Syndrome? Down's Syndrome (DS)--in the past referred to as Mongolism--is a genetic, chromosomal disorder that occurs in approximately 1 in 700 births in Canada.

A child with DS has 47 chromosomes in each cell instead of 46. This extra chromosome material is present at conception and may be contributed from the father's sperm or the mother's egg, each of which contribute 23 chromosomes. Although it is not known for sure what exactly causes this extra chromosome, it is possible that it may be due to an error in cell division. Since the defect occurs at conception, nothing done by the mother during pregnancy will alter the condition in any way.

The chance of having a child with DS increases significantly with age (odds are 1:32 for women over age 45). However, statistics show that 80 percent of babies born with the syndrome are born to women under 35 years of age, as these are the prime childbearing years.

Newborns with DS may look like babies who do not have DS while other may clearly exhibit the features that are characteristic of this condition. These features include chubby cheeks, large, round eyes, larger tongue, smaller limbs and smaller frame. Other features range from small ears, flattened bridge space between the two eyes and short neck, to a protruding tongue and webbed or connected fingers and toes.

The child may also--but not always--face health complications such as some life-threatening congenital malformations of the heart, hypothyroidism, hearing loss, vision problems, upper respiratory problems and other medical conditions. Some degree of mental retardation is also common and the child may function at a mental capacity below their age and have difficulty with speech and comprehension. The life expectancy of children with DS can be up to and over 40 years depending on the degree of medical complications.



"At first, I just couldn't see anything different about my child," says Zehra Hashem, who has a twelve-year-old daughter with DS.

"During my fifth month of pregnancy the doctors had done a routine amniocentesis (test for fetal abnormality) due to my age (40 years at the time). The results indicated that the child would be severely abnormal and I spent the whole pregnancy just totally devastated.

"When the child was born, I was scared to even look at her because of all the fear within me. I just did not know what I would find. It took me three days to finally take her in my arms and then I saw that she was just so beautiful! She was just very red. And I kept looking at her for the first few weeks just asking myself, 'could it be true? I don't see anything wrong with her. Maybe there has been a horrible mistake. Even doctors can be wrong'.

"I would just keep staring at her and I'd show her to relatives and ask them, 'do you see anything different about her?' and they would politely reassure me that the baby is okay. And I spent that whole time just denying it, convincing myself that everything would be alright."

"It is very common," says Syed, "to wonder if you, as a mother, are to blame for your child's condition. For me, the questions were even more difficult, because I was barely 30 when I gave birth to Abbas and that's not too old at all. Lots of people have children at that age. Was I being punished?

"But I quickly reasoned with myself that that can simply not be true. I vowed then, to myself, that I would never be ashamed of my child. I was not going to hide him. He was a special gift from Allah and not a punishment but a blessing. There were going to be challenges ahead, but I would face them because Allah has said in the Qur'an that our souls will be tested to the extent to which we can bear and not beyond that."



The challenges involved in parenting a child with Down's Syndrome are so varied, that the full commitment and time of the whole family is required. For the Syeds, who already had a 6-year-old daughter, Zahra, life took up a frantic pace.

"I realized that I would have to empower myself if I wanted to be of any help to my son," says Syed. "The hospital had given us a phone number for help but it was totally up to us to follow up on it. I registered with the Down's Syndrome Association of Toronto and with various other organizations.

"I read every newsletter, books and everything else possible about DS that I could find. I went to workshops, conferences, activities for mother and child. I took speech therapy and behavior management courses to deal effectively with Abbas and I also researched whatever type of funding was available out there to help him.

"Abbas became my focus but I had to also make time for Zahra and for my husband. The daily routine of life had to go on as well, of course. This is when it becomes difficult to find a balance and to decide how to share your time. In terms of the effect on our marriage and family life, alhamdulillah [praise Allah], we were able to pull together closer. My daughter matured very quickly because of all the challenges in our lives.

"I think that when you are confronted with a situation like this, it can either make or break a marriage. There are many spouses who can't take the pressure and end up leaving. I am glad that my husband is religious which helps a lot. There are times when he feels neglected, of course, but then we try to make an effort to spend some time alone together and go out.

"I must admit that whenever I take time out for myself, I can't help but feel guilty because I tell myself that my first priority should be Abbas, but then I have to remind myself that I need a change of scenery too so that I can be rejuvenated."

Both time and individualized attention are crucial when dealing with children who have DS. Parents interviewed spoke of the need for constant reinforcement coupled with regular repetition and reminders since low memory retention is an acute problem faced by such children.

"Like all parents, we had certain expectations from our first child, Zahra," explains Syed, "we knew that someday she, like any other child, will dress herself, read, write, etc. With Abbas, everything he learned was a big milestone for us because we had no idea if he was capable of it. It took so much more effort to teach him how to button his shirt, or to count or to write something. And if after teaching him something we leave it for a week, then he forgets everything and it means starting all over again."

Hashem struggles with the same challenges. "The doctor has said that it is important to keep talking to Ferwa, even if she doesn't appear to understand, because she needs constant stimulation in order to learn. He has recommended that we make her watch children's TV programs as well because it will help with her speech development. Her memory is low but if she is interested in something then she makes an effort to learn it.

"Right now she is very interested in fishes and she has memorized names of all sorts of whales and can recognize their pictures. She goes to a regular school and has a special teaching assistant who simplifies the concepts for her.

"She never ceases to amaze me with her willingness to learn. Even as a baby, she made the effort to walk, became toilet trained, learned her alphabet. She can speak very clearly, understands everything that is said to her, and makes an effort to communicate with those around her. I am so proud of her!"

A firm believer in her son's abilities, Syed has taken an active role in Abbas' education. He also had a teaching assistant to simplify concepts for him at his regular school. "I have fought hard for his rights and will continue to do so," she says resolutely.

"His therapists, his teachers, everyone tells me that I am a wonderful advocate for my son and I believe that it is my duty to do whatever I can for him. It is not always easy. Sometimes my husband cautions me to be less vocal because I often end up arguing or even crying when I am trying to win his case but I tell him, 'if you would be in my situation, you would react the same way'.

"My goal is to make my son as independent as possible so that one day he can live on his own, or go to the bank and write a check. I have to help him reach that goal."



Perhaps equally daunting as the goal for self-independence, is the goal for social integration that the parents of children with Down's often dream of. The social stigma faced by the children leaves them isolated from their peers, a fact that breaks their parents' heart.

"Now that Abbas is older," says Syed, "I can see him becoming aware of the fact that kids his own age don't include him in their games. I can see him getting depressed and how it is affecting his self-esteem and I wish that I could make things better for him. Sometimes it causes me to go into a depression too and then I tell myself, 'Sukaina, you can't let every little thing bother you like this. There are other bigger challenges to worry about.' But I just can't help wishing that people would treat him like an individual and try to understand and accept him instead of ignoring him."

"If people took the time to know Ferwa," says Hashem, "they would see that she is like any other child who loves to pray dress-up, put nail polish on and braid her hair with fancy hairstyles. She even loves to put on mehndi (henna)!

"Two and a half years before Ferwa was born, I lost my 14-month-old daughter in a car accident right outside the mosque. Those were the darkest years of my life and I never thought I would ever smile again.

"Then Allah gave me Ferwa. And she has given me a reason to live again. I have fallen so much in love with this sweet girl. I wonder now why I was so scared before. I have given birth to her, she is mine, no matter what she has. And she is always by my side. She has become my partner, my friend, my companion.

"I love her so deeply, I think without her I would have died with grief. She has this wonderful ability to win everyone's hearts. She is so kind and loving. She may have Down's but she is a living, breathing human being who responds to those around her."

The pure love that such special children tend to give and evoke is something that the Syed family has been touched with as well.

"My husband claims that only Abbas has the power to make me laugh," says Syed with a chuckle. "You know, when I see his face, I forget everything. Nobody makes me happy like Abbas can. He is so cute and loving and with him, there is just so much to look forward to in life. I cannot describe to you the joy that I feel when he is able to do something new. Little things like when he manages to button his own shirt by himself just gives me so much delight and I just exclaim with joy, 'Abbas, you did it!'"

For most parents of children with special needs, the future well-being of their children is a gnawing concern that is always in the back of their minds.

"I worry about what will happen to little Ferwa once I am gone," says Hashem quietly. "I wish that we had a foster or adoption system in our community so that such children can be taken care of after the death of their parents. I want to keep Ferwa in this community. I even wish we could have some sort of Islamic schooling system for children like her. Or even arrangements for outings and events to foster friendships. Imagine if we set aside a unit or two at the Jaffari Islamic Housing complex so people like her can live alone within the supportive environment of the community? We have to start somewhere."

"Having a child like Abbas has actually strengthened our faith and changed our outlook of life," says Syed philosophically.

"There are some realities of life that you can't escape but you can at least improve things by ding a little bit of hard work. You have to reach out to others who may be able to give some advice, steel yourself from becoming too sensitive and try to open up to others too.

"There are times when I am just so exhausted in every way, my heart, my head, my body, everything is just numb but I have to push myself to go on. I have no choice. I can't afford to give up."

The selfless devotion of women like Sukaina Syed and Zehra Hashem enhances the notion that paradise lies at the feet of a mother. There is no doubt that the strong presence of Allah in their lives and acceptance of His decree constantly nourishes their spirits.

"A woman caught sight of Abbas in my arms at the mosque one day," recalls Sukaina. "She asked me in Urdu, 'Is something wrong with your child?' I answered, 'Yes. He has a cold … and he is not like you and me.' Her face just changed and my mind was silently saying, 'don't feel sorry for me'. Then I looked at her in the eyes and said something that has given me peace, ever since. I said [in Urdu], 'aur hum apne Allah se raazi hein' (I am in agreement with my Lord. I accept, and I am satisfied with what He has chosen for me)."



The author originally wrote this piece for the Toronto, Canada-based Ja'ffari News October, 2002 issue. It has been reprinted here with permission. Since the article was first published, a sub-committee for special needs people has been set up under the Toronto-based Jaffari Islamic Center.

heaven2002
04-06-07, 07:46 PM
bumpity bump

dhakiyya
05-06-07, 07:32 PM
MashaAllah great topic :up:

For all mums and dads to be inshaAllah - doctors will offer pregnant women tests to see if the baby has downs syndrome. However, Muslim parents to be should think very carefully whether to have them or not. The routine stuff like nuchal fold test (done via ultrasound) is non invasive and does not have any risks. However, if that shows an increased risk of downs, they offer invasive tests that carry a small risk of miscarriage. Also, if they do find that the baby has downs, there is nothing that they can do for the baby, except offer an abortion :crying: As I'm sure you are all aware, that would be haram so it is not an option. So the question is, is there any point in having the tests at all? For some parents maybe you will want to know so you can research about downs syndrome in order to be prepared for raising a child with downs. That would be a good reason to have the test. But for many parents it will just create a lot of worry and anxiety (especially worrying that the invasive test itself might harm the baby) for something that the doctors will not be able to do anything about besides offend you by suggesting an abortion.

When I was pregnant mashaAllah, I refused all tests where they would not be able to do anything for the baby other than offer an abortion. There are plenty that could help the baby, for example the more detailed ultrasound (done around 20 weeks) mashaAllah they can detect abnormalities like heart defects, and if necessary they can even operate on the baby inside the womb mashaAllah. So there is a point to those kinds of tests. However the downs one I refused, even the nucal fold one, because if I had a downs baby then inshaAllah I would have the baby and raise him or her. I have worked with downs syndrome children in special schools mashaAllah and they are lovely kids, and most downs syndrome children can achieve a surprising amount, even learning to read and write, and one girl with downs even got some GCSEs mashaAllah. (not one that I worked with, but I read a magazine article about her mashaAllah) The more serious health problems with downs, like heart defects mashaAllah doctors can do a lot to fix them nowadays. Raising any child with special needs mashaAllah takes a lot of extra work and extra patience of course and the more severe their problems the harder it is but mashaAllah Allah rewards that extra hard work, patience etc mashaAllah. People with mental handicaps who never reach the mental age of an adolescent (i.e. the age of responsibility, mentally) go straight to heaven mashaAllah.

nadous
09-06-07, 11:37 PM
In Montreal (Ste-Justine hospital from Canada) they start to pass a test at the 11th week (nuqual test) which can says if the baby as diseas such as trisomia 21... It is really help full at the 4 firsts childs I didn't have that test but this time they did it and my doctor told me it is more easy now to detect those disease earlier then before... It is a blood test with ultrasound where they do check some liquid into the neck of the babies... My baby as nothing... Alhumdulillah... But there was a women who's baby as been affected... I feel so sorry for her... She was young and that was her first one... But she decide to keep the baby... I hope everything will go well now for her... Insh'Allah.

Inky Fingers
10-06-07, 12:07 AM
Chidren with Down's syndrome are very special, and our creator does not give them to just anybody. He gives them to very special parents.

nadous
10-06-07, 12:20 AM
All the kids are special and one who came with any disease is more special... Allah give to all of parents the children it as to go with them...

neelu
10-06-07, 07:48 PM
I only know one boy from a Muslim family who has DS and that's my brother's brother in law. He is the youngest in his family and I think his parents had him at a late age. Unfortunately due to the social stigma and coming from a family obsessed with status, his parents neglected him- but on a positive note, as he's the youngest in the family, he gets a lot of love and attention from his older siblings and there is the hope that when his parents are no longer there or no longer in a position to support him, he would still have the support of his older siblings inshallah. Out of my bros ex in laws we kinda liked him the most because people with DS are often quite innocent and even in a messy situation like the divorce, he doesn't get involved in any of the nastiness or mud slinging associated with it. I didn't know DS kids have such low life expectancy:(

I've noticed that many families who have a child with a severe disability choose not to have more children after that because the intense effort that goes into bringing up a disabled child makes the parents reluctant to increase their responsibility with another child. I think that is quite sad because in other families where the disabled child has healthy older siblings, it can give parents the peace of mind that if anything happens to them, there are other close family members around to help look after them. Another thing is that life has no guarantees and having a healthy baby offers no guarantees of healthy adulthood. I know a family who had a healthy, normal daughter but when she was 4 years old, she had an accident which caused her to have head injuries and she was severely retarded from then on. She died in her teens.

1Seeker
10-07-07, 09:18 PM
bump

Lady Celt
11-07-07, 02:25 PM
my nephew has downs. also a 10mm hole in his heart, cataracts and glaucoma. all the tests that were supposed to show downs or the likelihood of came back negative :( he is a beautiful child (2yrs now) who rarely cries and is mostly happy and smiling. it has been hard for my brother and his partner, but they both love him dearly, as do the rest of the family. my children adore him and will spend hours playing with him when they come to visit. most of the downs children or adults i have come across have been beautiful, gentle, loving people :)
it is very hard when a baby is born with a condition that is incurable, but they are never given to those who cannot cope, and always they are given for a reason.
this bit may sound silly - i feel very guilty. i have had 5 perfectly healthy children, yet my brother has had one son, who has all these problems. i know it's not my fault, but still, i feel guilty about it

MMS
11-07-07, 02:41 PM
my nephew has downs. also a 10mm hole in his heart, cataracts and glaucoma. all the tests that were supposed to show downs or the likelihood of came back negative :( he is a beautiful child (2yrs now) who rarely cries and is mostly happy and smiling. it has been hard for my brother and his partner, but they both love him dearly, as do the rest of the family. my children adore him and will spend hours playing with him when they come to visit. most of the downs children or adults i have come across have been beautiful, gentle, loving people :)
it is very hard when a baby is born with a condition that is incurable, but they are never given to those who cannot cope, and always they are given for a reason.
this bit may sound silly - i feel very guilty. i have had 5 perfectly healthy children, yet my brother has had one son, who has all these problems. i know it's not my fault, but still, i feel guilty about it

children with DS are extremely cute :inlove:

my lil cousin had a hole in her heart when she was born but it closed up as she has gotten older alhamdulillah :)

Lady Celt
11-07-07, 03:59 PM
children with DS are extremely cute :inlove:

my lil cousin had a hole in her heart when she was born but it closed up as she has gotten older alhamdulillah :)

they hope this will happen with my nephew, but because of the glaucoma, it causes problems. it's dangerous to have a general anaesthetic with a heart condition, but he needs regular ops to release the pressure caused in his eyes by the glaucoma. it's a very worrying thing :(
but, apart from this he's happy and healthy, which is always something to be grateful for :)

dhakiyya
11-07-07, 09:03 PM
May Allah bless your beautiful nephew with a long, healthy and happy life surrounded by family who love him :love: Ameen

Chained_Water
11-07-07, 09:18 PM
Nothing but awe and admiration for parents who bring up kids with any type of disability. It must take so much out of them, emotionally and physically. SuhanAllah..

I just even imagine it, I'd probably fall apart and become a wreck.

Lady Celt
11-07-07, 11:10 PM
May Allah bless your beautiful nephew with a long, healthy and happy life surrounded by family who love him :love: Ameen


thank you :D

Qalb Al Asad
11-07-07, 11:46 PM
Beautiful article.:o

THE PATH 2
12-07-07, 12:39 AM
we are all tested in different ways:)

Saadet
12-07-07, 02:26 AM
Children concieved between first cousins are alot more likely to have DS. I just thought I'd point that out for all those who vociferously defend marriage between cousins.

That's all.

Water_Drinker
12-07-07, 07:24 AM
Down Syndrome isn't a disease. Children with Down Syndrome are actually very easy to parent. Please educate yourself.

Fais
12-07-07, 07:40 AM
Down Syndrome isn't a disease. Children with Down Syndrome are actually very easy to parent. Please educate yourself.

no they not ...

Eemaan
12-07-07, 08:48 AM
no they not ...

:p

heaven2002
12-07-07, 08:58 AM
Down Syndrome isn't a disease. Children with Down Syndrome are actually very easy to parent. Please educate yourself.

you cant generalise like this
many parents of down syndrome or other learning difficulties children find parenting challenging at times, doesnt mean its not rewarding
indeed parents with children with no learning diff are the same


so please educate ur self

dhakiyya
12-07-07, 08:44 PM
There's no such thing as a kid that's easy to parent, with or without downs syndrome. The learning disability and the medical problems that go with downs syndrome do make raising downs kids more challenging. But as has been repeatedly said, and as you would have realised if you'd read the rest of the thread, they are usually wonderful, affectionate kids and very rewarding mashaAllah.

neelu
12-07-07, 09:50 PM
Children concieved between first cousins are alot more likely to have DS.

Prove it.

dhakiyya
12-07-07, 09:58 PM
Children concieved between first cousins are alot more likely to have DS. I just thought I'd point that out for all those who vociferously defend marriage between cousins.

That's all.

I don't think that's true. Generally speaking genetic disorders are more common when first cousins marry, but I don't think trisomys (where you get three of a particular chromosome) are. Genetic disorders in first cousins are more common, because the vast majority of genetic disorders are recessive (i.e. you have to inherit two copies of the defective gene to get it) - and as first cousins have more DNA in common than two unrelated people, if one has one has a dodgy gene, the other is far more likely to have the same dodgy gene, thus increasing the risk that the child will inherit two copies of the same dodgy gene. Marriage between a brother and a sister (which is haram) would be considerably more dangerous than between first cousins, because they share 50% of their DNA and there is a very high risk of them both sharing the same dodgy genes.

Trisomies like Downs syndrome, are caused by an extra chromosome, which results from faulty cell division when either the egg or the sperm was formed. This has nothing to do with how much DNA the mother and the father share.

I don't see anyone here "vociferously defending marriage between cousins" - if its something from a thread in a different part of the forum, please keep that debate there and don't bring it in here.

Lady Celt
12-07-07, 11:24 PM
There's no such thing as a kid that's easy to parent, with or without downs syndrome. The learning disability and the medical problems that go with downs syndrome do make raising downs kids more challenging. But as has been repeatedly said, and as you would have realised if you'd read the rest of the thread, they are usually wonderful, affectionate kids and very rewarding mashaAllah.

i totally agree - and whilst you can apply basics learned from one child to rearing another, they're all different and require adaptation from child to child. mine range in ages from 16yrs down to 2yrs. i can explain most things in at least 5 different ways :D

Saadet
13-07-07, 02:59 AM
Prove it.

Go to southeastern Turkey. It's the only place in Turkey where you'll see more than the occaisional person with DS. Because, of course, of the fact that rural Kurds love to marry their cousins.

Te'oma
13-07-07, 08:00 AM
My hat is off to anyone that raises a child with a disability like DS. I have 2 daughters with varying learning/physical problems but I could not imagine what it would be like dealing with a DS child knowing that they really don't have a potential future ie marriage, kids or being self sufficient.

dhakiyya
15-07-07, 07:28 PM
My hat is off to anyone that raises a child with a disability like DS. I have 2 daughters with varying learning/physical problems but I could not imagine what it would be like dealing with a DS child knowing that they really don't have a potential future ie marriage, kids or being self sufficient.

Some DS people can live semi-independantly in sheltered accommodation. They need someone on call to help out if they need it, plus regular visits, but they can be surprisingly independent. Ages ago my husband worked in a supermarket whilst he was studying, and at the same supermarket, they employed DS young adults to do stuff like bag packing and trolleys and basic stuff, and they all lived in the same sheltered accommodation near to the supermarket.

Of course it does depend on the individual, DS varies in severity, kids with more severe DS problems may never be able to achieve even this level of independence, but I'd be wary of ever trying to put limits on what any individual child may achieve later - only Allah knows.

Noor_Usman
15-07-07, 08:15 PM
Asalamalikum.

I just wanted to say this really touched my heart. Inshallah as mothers (when the time comes) we will all have this strength to accept what is written for us and appreciate what we have actually been given.

ummbilal
15-07-07, 08:25 PM
MashaAllah great topic :up:

For all mums and dads to be inshaAllah - doctors will offer pregnant women tests to see if the baby has downs syndrome. However, Muslim parents to be should think very carefully whether to have them or not. The routine stuff like nuchal fold test (done via ultrasound) is non invasive and does not have any risks. However, if that shows an increased risk of downs, they offer invasive tests that carry a small risk of miscarriage. Also, if they do find that the baby has downs, there is nothing that they can do for the baby, except offer an abortion :crying: As I'm sure you are all aware, that would be haram so it is not an option. So the question is, is there any point in having the tests at all? For some parents maybe you will want to know so you can research about downs syndrome in order to be prepared for raising a child with downs. That would be a good reason to have the test. But for many parents it will just create a lot of worry and anxiety (especially worrying that the invasive test itself might harm the baby) for something that the doctors will not be able to do anything about besides offend you by suggesting an abortion.

When I was pregnant mashaAllah, I refused all tests where they would not be able to do anything for the baby other than offer an abortion. There are plenty that could help the baby, for example the more detailed ultrasound (done around 20 weeks) mashaAllah they can detect abnormalities like heart defects, and if necessary they can even operate on the baby inside the womb mashaAllah. So there is a point to those kinds of tests. However the downs one I refused, even the nucal fold one, because if I had a downs baby then inshaAllah I would have the baby and raise him or her. I have worked with downs syndrome children in special schools mashaAllah and they are lovely kids, and most downs syndrome children can achieve a surprising amount, even learning to read and write, and one girl with downs even got some GCSEs mashaAllah. (not one that I worked with, but I read a magazine article about her mashaAllah) The more serious health problems with downs, like heart defects mashaAllah doctors can do a lot to fix them nowadays. Raising any child with special needs mashaAllah takes a lot of extra work and extra patience of course and the more severe their problems the harder it is but mashaAllah Allah rewards that extra hard work, patience etc mashaAllah. People with mental handicaps who never reach the mental age of an adolescent (i.e. the age of responsibility, mentally) go straight to heaven mashaAllah.

I'd like to second what sis has said ^^^

I refused the amniocentesis test as i knew whatever they told me i was not going to abort my baby also i knew it has risks involved in the test, inshaallah as muslims we can have sabr with whatever child we are given they are all precious gifts to us.

ummbilal
15-07-07, 08:26 PM
Go to southeastern Turkey. It's the only place in Turkey where you'll see more than the occaisional person with DS. Because, of course, of the fact that rural Kurds love to marry their cousins.

it is halal to marry your cousin, its any closer than that and the trouble starts.

ummbilal
15-07-07, 08:29 PM
Down Syndrome isn't a disease. Children with Down Syndrome are actually very easy to parent. Please educate yourself.

I know parents of downs children, and i know the daily battle they face, i hope one day Allah educates u so u may regret typing these words belittling the struggles of these people, subhannalllah