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ammarcool
30-05-07, 08:35 AM
By JESSICA MINTZ, AP Business Writer
2 hours, 28 minutes ago

SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. has taken the wraps off "Surface," a coffee-table shaped computer that responds to touch and to special bar codes attached to everyday objects.

The machines, which Microsoft planned to debut Wednesday at a technology conference in Carlsbad, Calif., are set to arrive in November in T-Mobile USA stores and properties owned by Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide Inc. and Harrah's Entertainment Inc.

Surface is essentially a Windows Vista PC tucked inside a shiny black table base, topped with a 30-inch touchscreen in a clear acrylic frame. Five cameras that can sense nearby objects are mounted beneath the screen. Users can interact with the machine by touching or dragging their fingertips and objects such as paintbrushes across the screen, or by setting real-world items tagged with special bar-code labels on top of it.

Unlike most touchscreens, Surface can respond to more than one touch at a time. During a demonstration with a reporter last week, Mark Bolger, the Surface Computing group's marketing director, "dipped" his finger in an on-screen paint palette, then dragged it across the screen to draw a smiley face. Then he used all 10 fingers at once to give the face a full head of hair.

With a price tag between $5,000 and $10,000 per unit, Microsoft isn't immediately aiming for the finger painting set. (The company said it expects prices to drop enough to make consumer versions feasible in three to five years.)

Some of the first Surface models are planned to help customers pick out new cell phones at T-Mobile stores. When customers plop a phone down on the screen, Surface will read its bar code and display information about the handset. Customers can also select calling plans and ringtones by dragging icons toward the phone.

Guests sitting in some Starwood Hotel lobbies will be able to cluster around the Surface to play music, then buy songs using a credit card or rewards card tagged with a bar code. In some hotel restaurants, customers will be able to order food and drinks, then split the bill by setting down a card or a room key and dragging their menu items "onto" the card.

At Harrah's locations, visitors will be able to learn about nearby Harrah's venues on an interactive map, then book show tickets or make dinner reservations.

Microsoft is working on a limited number of programs to ship with Surface, including one for sharing digital photographs.

Bolger placed a card with a bar code onto Surface's surface; digital photographs appeared to spill out of the card into piles on the screen. Several people gathered around the table pulled photos across the screen using their fingertips, rotated them in circles and even dragged out the corners to enlarge the images — behavior made possible by the advanced graphics support deep inside Windows Vista.

"It's not a touch screen, it's a grab screen," Bolger said.

Historically, Microsoft has focused on creating new software, giving computer programmers tools to build applications on its platforms, and left hardware manufacturing to others. (Some recent exceptions include the Xbox 360 and the Zune music player, made by the same Microsoft division that developed Surface.)

For now, Microsoft is making the Surface hardware itself, and has only given six outside software development firms the tools they need to make Surface applications.

Matt Rosoff, an analyst at the independent research group Directions on Microsoft, said in an interview that keeping the technology's inner workings under wraps will limit what early customers — the businesses Microsoft is targeting first with the machine — will be able to do with it.

But overall, analysts who cover the PC industry were wowed by Surface.

Surface is "important for Microsoft as a promising new business, as well as demonstrating very concretely to the market that Microsoft still knows how to innovate, and innovate in a big way," said Michael Gartenberg, an analyst at Jupiter Research.

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nami
30-05-07, 09:24 AM
Did Microsoft steal this idea from here?

Multi-Touch Screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89sz8ExZndc)

Or did they buy the technology?

ammarcool
30-05-07, 09:47 AM
Did Microsoft steal this idea from here?

seems like that! :)

nami
30-05-07, 10:51 AM
seems like that! :)

It's what microsoft does best. :D

Jam
01-06-07, 06:22 AM
:salams

Unfortunately without corporations "borrowing" ideas, technological progress would be slowed down by eons. This is why patents/copyrights only have a limited time in law, to allow others to implement and interpret ideas differently, thereby creating competition and accelerating development :up:

:salams

belal1
01-06-07, 01:38 PM
Let's see, first their BOB operating system went belly up, then their so called windows ME failed miserably, not to mention Tablet PC which was hailed as the future student and business professional laptop that would replace the market for such devices and THAT too failed. Then just recently microsoft released their origami project aka Ultra Mobile Portable Computer (UMPC) and that was a disaster (Nokia killed them with their N700 and N800 which is hundreds of dollars cheaper, runs linux and a whole slew of apps, has wifi, skype and is an open platform).

now they come up with this contraption....hailing it as a future device....

hmmm... call me crazy but i'm skeptical.


the only thing microsoft ever did right was windows 2k professional and NT4.0 on the OS side, and Microsoft Office on the software application side. Those were amazing products.

nami
01-06-07, 02:29 PM
the only thing microsoft ever did right was windows 2k professional and NT4.0 on the OS side, and Microsoft Office on the software application side. Those were amazing products.

I've still got a win2k computer which I use as a cctv system for home use. I tried getting it to work on linux but apparently my cctv capture card is not compatible with linux...

I have to say though bro, microsoft's programming ide's are the best, i.e. visual studios.

belal1
01-06-07, 02:37 PM
I've still got a win2k computer which I use as a cctv system for home use. I tried getting it to work on linux but apparently my cctv capture card is not compatible with linux...

I have to say though bro, microsoft's programming ide's are the best, i.e. visual studios.

what kind of capture card you have? model and make?

nami
01-06-07, 02:41 PM
what kind of capture card you have? model and make?

ummm, not sure, I will have to look it up. As soon as I figure it out, I'll let you know insha'allah.

belal1
01-06-07, 02:45 PM
ummm, not sure, I will have to look it up. As soon as I figure it out, I'll let you know insha'allah.

jazakhallahu khairan....

i'm actually thinking of getting a capture card for my future system....

i know my bro has one which works well on windows, it can take HD signals and llooks great on his LCD monitor... but i donno if his work with linux. i'd like to make a powerful multimedia centerin the near future, hopefully replacing a T.V. so I'd need a capture card for video input...

i'm thinking of getting taht dell ubuntu system, but with a monster display. either a regular 19" monitor, or just buy a big widescreen flat panel t.v (maybe 27 or 32", LCD or some other tech).

nami
01-06-07, 02:52 PM
jazakhallahu khairan....

i'm actually thinking of getting a capture card for my future system....

i know my bro has one which works well on windows, it can take HD signals and llooks great on his LCD monitor... but i donno if his work with linux. i'd like to make a powerful multimedia centerin the near future, hopefully replacing a T.V. so I'd need a capture card for video input...

i'm thinking of getting taht dell ubuntu system, but with a monster display. either a regular 19" monitor, or just buy a big widescreen flat panel t.v (maybe 27 or 32", LCD or some other tech).

:eek: that sounds like some serious equipment!

the capture card I got is just a low performance card, I only got it because i wasn't sure what i was doing at the time and i just wanted to get something that was easy to setup. i even tried some of the wireless stuff, but ended up giving it back because it was not clear at all. so i ended up getting the wired stuff. only probably with that is that you gotta get the ladder out and get on the roof of the house with a hammer.

the card i have is:
make: swann
model: pc dvr 4 net

it comes with its own software which is windows only and does not support linux, i even phoned them and they said that they have no linux drivers and have no plans to create any...

anyway, i tried getting it to work with zoneminder with linux/ubuntu but had no luck. i remember seeing a list of compatible cards which work with zoneminder, you might want to look at that list. not sure where i saw that list unfortunately.

YesilkoyBoy
01-06-07, 02:54 PM
the only thing microsoft ever did right was windows 2k professional and NT4.0 on the OS side, and Microsoft Office on the software application side. Those were amazing products.
Apparently not the "only things." Bill Gates did not become the richest man in the world because were not buying his products.

The market votes with its money. They've been voting for Microsoft for a very long time.

belal1
01-06-07, 03:00 PM
Apparently not the "only things." Bill Gates did not become the richest man in the world because were not buying his products.

The market votes with its money. They've been voting for Microsoft for a very long time.

the average person does not buy microsoft products. he buys computers. it's the OEMs, IHV's and major manufacturers that buy microsoft products.

and bill gates has a monopoly on OEMs. the strategy is, sell to OEMs at insane prices (15$ per system compared to store shelf versions of $300), and then make money by selling the other enterprise and SOHO applications at higher prices since people will be forced to buy it for the windows platform.

other than office, isthere an application that microsoft profits from? none.

belal1
01-06-07, 03:16 PM
:eek: that sounds like some serious equipment!

the capture card I got is just a low performance card, I only got it because i wasn't sure what i was doing at the time and i just wanted to get something that was easy to setup. i even tried some of the wireless stuff, but ended up giving it back because it was not clear at all. so i ended up getting the wired stuff. only probably with that is that you gotta get the ladder out and get on the roof of the house with a hammer.

the card i have is:
make: swann
model: pc dvr 4 net

it comes with its own software which is windows only and does not support linux, i even phoned them and they said that they have no linux drivers and have no plans to create any...

anyway, i tried getting it to work with zoneminder with linux/ubuntu but had no luck. i remember seeing a list of compatible cards which work with zoneminder, you might want to look at that list. not sure where i saw that list unfortunately.

lol not really that good of an equipment, I just need a system with good processor, lots of hard disc space, a compatible linux graphics card for video input/output and good display.

my dream is to have a ondemand system in every room of the house, where i use old recycled pc's as thin clients, to display video on demand via VLC or some other system. that would be awesome.

but anyway, i looked around the web for ur card, its difficult to find the kind of chipset the card uses. i'm assuming if u knew the chipset, then u'd be able to find out if it's compatible or not withlinux. usually the tech support at the maker's site don't really give away too much info on linux compatibility but if the chipset is known then chances are someone made a driver for it through hacking and that shouldget you up and running.

u ever try mythdora? see if it picks up the card in auto detection... it's a DVR/PVR meta-distro for linux...

nami
01-06-07, 03:24 PM
u ever try mythdora? see if it picks up the card in auto detection... it's a DVR/PVR meta-distro for linux...

never heard of it, will look into it and see what happens. :up:

Suliman
25-06-07, 01:27 PM
A video about Microsoft Surface. Well worth a looky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY

Kal-El
25-06-07, 01:30 PM
It's like something out of Star Trek

Suliman
25-06-07, 02:48 PM
Watch the video though, it's cool - Trust me :up:

Joha
25-06-07, 07:35 PM
A video about Microsoft Surface. Well worth a looky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY

haaaaha, brilliantly sarcastic, made microtrash look like complete dorks!