Should men and women be given equal rights, according to islam?

[ana_mujahid]

sallam alekum,

The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:

. . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . .



The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

Men are managers of the affairs of women because Allah has made the one superior to the other



This hadith shows that the majority of inhabitants of hell are women.

Narrated 'Imran bin Husain:

The Prophet said, "I looked at Paradise and found poor people forming the majority of its inhabitants; and I looked at Hell and saw that the majority of its inhabitants were women."



Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

I heard the Prophet saying. "Evil omen is in three things: The horse, the woman and the house." (Bukhari)



The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:

The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . .



Malik (d. 795) is a founder of a major school of law. He composed a law book that is also considered a collection of reliable hadith: Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik ibn Anas: The First Formation of Islamic Law (rev. trans. Aisha Bewley, Inverness, Scotland: Madina Press, 1989, 2001).

Malik writes:

The generally agreed upon way of doing things among us . . . about fixed shares of inheritance (fara’id) of children from the mother or father when one or the other dies is that if they leave male and female children, the male takes the portion of two females.



Ibn Rushd agrees with Malik:

Muslims [jurists] agreed that the inheritance of the child from his father or mother, if they are both males and females, is that the share of the male is equal to the shares of two females . . . (vol. 2, p. 413).



The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:

And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her.



God treats men and women as spiritual equals., Quran 3:195 tells us :

"Their Lord responded to them: "I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you MALE OR FEMALE, YOU ARE EQUAL TO ONE ANOTHER........."



However what God revealed in the Quran is very different. The spiritual equality between men and women is reiterated in 4:124, as follows:

"As for those who lead a righteous life, MALE OR FEMALE. while believing, t hey enter Paradise; without the slightest injustice"

and again in 16:97:

" Anyone who works righteousness, MALE OR FEMALE, while believing, we will surely grant them a happy life in this world, and we will surely pay them their full recompense for their righteous works."

and yet again in 40:40,

[40:40] Whoever commits a sin is requited for just that, and whoever works righteousness - MALE OR FEMALE - while believing, these will enter Paradise wherein they receive provisions without any limits.

[Peacenik]

Walaikum-a-salaam

ALLAH (SWT) has already given rights to women.

Depends what you mean by 'equal'.

For example, in 'inheritance', the male of the household gets a higher share than the female.

But this is ALLAH (SWT)'s Decision - no-one has a right to question what The Almighty has Ordained for His creation.

:)

[urban_rose]

are you asking if men and women should be given equal rights or whether they are treated the same? they are both slightly different....

[ana_mujahid]

Walaikum-a-salaam

ALLAH (SWT) has already given rights to women.

Depends what you mean by 'equal'.

For example, in 'inheritance', the male of the household gets a higher share than the female.

But this is ALLAH (SWT)'s Decision - no-one has a right to question what The Almighty has Ordained for His creation.

:)
:up:

[Raziel]

Walaikum-a-salaam

ALLAH (SWT) has already given rights to women.

Depends what you mean by 'equal'.

For example, in 'inheritance', the male of the household gets a higher share than the female.

But this is ALLAH (SWT)'s Decision - no-one has a right to question what The Almighty has Ordained for His creation.

:)

theres an obvious reason, though, the Men have to spend it on their Families, the Women don't have to spend any of their Inheritance on their Families, Men have to Earn a living for the Family, the Women don't have to go to work ...

:jkk:

[ana_mujahid]

are you asking if men and women should be given equal rights or whether they are treated the same? they are both slightly different....

treated

[ana_mujahid]

theres an obvious reason, though, the Men have to spend it on their Families, the Women don't have to spend any of their Inheritance on their Families, Men have to Earn a living for the Family, the Women don't have to go to work ...

:jkk:
:D
:jkk:

[Cristiana]

Salam aleykum,

For "equal rights" I understand thast their lives as human beings have the same value and they both have the same basic freedoms (speech, education, owning property etc...). Women aren't "second class" citizens.

However men and women are different, as far a the generalization can go, that's why Allah explained we should have different roles :D

I do not approve of patronizing women as "emotional and irrational beings" who "live of love" and whose life and moods are regulated solely by hormones, as some men like to think when they can't understand us and/or because they like to think of their gender as tough, rational and free from passions.

But in general, we are different because Allah made us this way, His directives mirror these differences and recommend the best way for us to fulfill our potential according to what we have been given insha'Allah:)
and he knows us better than we know ourselves :up:

[ana_mujahid]

Salam aleykum,

For "equal rights" I understand thast their lives as human beings have the same value and they both have the same basic freedoms (speech, education, owning property etc...). Women aren't "second class" citizens.

However men and women are different, as far a the generalization can go, that's why Allah explained we should have different roles :D

I do not approve of patronizing women as "emotional and irrational beings" who "live of love" and whose life and moods are regulated solely by hormones, as some men like to think when they can't understand us and/or because they like to think of their gender as tough, rational and free from passions.

But in general, we are different because Allah made us this way, His directives mirror these differences and recommend the best way for us to fulfill our potential according to what we have been given insha'Allah:)
and he knows us better than we know ourselves :up:

:jkk: :up: love ur comment :D

[beespreeteam]

a degree above them [in responsibility].

[ana_mujahid]

a degree above them [in responsibility].

yes, that is wats ment, but some ppl think of it differently :lailah:

[Haneef Muslim]

As far as I have learnt, in Allaah's eyes both men and women are equal in their adherance, devotion, love, fear and worship of Him. However, there are no "equal rights", meaning they're the same in their mental and physical make-up, or their own responsibilties.

Allaah has created man to excel over woman in some things and has created women to excel over men in some things, both ways. In Islaam, there are "just rights" in that every male and female is fairly treated according to their role, it's not injustice, nor wrong!

:jkk:

[Haneef Muslim]

And having said that it is my belief (and of my wife's), women were created to obey Allaah, their fathers, husbands and men-folk.

[sis_sarah]

males and females have different roles and responsibilities in life so... i'd say no not xctly equal rights...

[Sulaiman Harun]

In different matters they are treated differently but in some matters they are treated same!!

[Love4Sunnah]

According to Islam the rights of the Man or women is given by Allah swt. When the kuffar say equal rights they mean the women should have equal inheritance to the man. And Condoliza Rice has mentioned this in one of her speeches of equality.

But justice doesnt always mean equality. In Islam all financial obligation belongs to the man. All of the expenses like food clothing and shelter are the mans obligation. And the womans not obligated to spend anything of her money even if shes the richest of women. In Islam its haram for a man to pressure his wife to give any of her money towards the rent. Allahu Akbar

While the kafir women are working like slaves and at the end of the week are forced to pay half of the rent.

Anytime you heard terms like "equal rights" you have to ask where did this term or principle come from?

The principle of of equality came recently out of the womens rights movement. Before that time women in the west weren't allowed to own property (nothing). The western value of equal rights or the idea itself goes back less than 100 years. Before that the term "equal rights" was completely unheard of.

[muslim_sis]

sorry ... i did not read the thread (just noticed the title tho)... 'should' ?? u mean 'does' ... Islam is complete, it doesn't need anything, the way allah has chosen for us already alhamdulilah.

[yarerong]

Allah has given us guidances in this matters. the biggest problem i have is the twisting of Allah word to justify sub stander treatment of woman. this laws do not justify abuse of woman at the hand of men. we as men should treat us with dignity and respect for are wives where created by Allah and entrusted to us.

[cl@rity]

Men and women have same rights but not identical. The man gets more inheritance than the woman becoz the man will have to provide for his family, his wife and kids..whereas the woman will not hav to do that. Infact she will merely take the inheritance with her and keep it..her husband will use his inheritance to provide for her. :)

[Joha]

And having said that it is my belief (and of my wife's), women were created to obey Allaah, their fathers, husbands and men-folk.

And the men?

[`asiya]

And the men?

are ordered to obey and Fear Allah ta ala in regards to women, Allah has only given men the larger right of responsability over women, and they better Fear Allah in regards to that and not transgress the limits, because the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam has stated:

" Fear Allah when it comes to women, for they are helpers you took in faithfulness to Allah. You also find it permissible to enjoy them lawfully. You owe it to them to spend money on them for their food and clothes and in kindness." sahih Muslim

The messenger of Allah salallahu alleyhi wa salam said

" All of you are gaurdians and all of you will be questioned concerning those under your care and a man is the gaurdian over his familly, and he will be questioned concerning those under his care "

Sahih Al Bukhari and Muslim

a woman has more rights than a man does in Islam, if u want to start counting them individually, and a woman is fully protected by Allah ta ala, within those rights, Allah knows what is best for us, He ta ala is our creator, and so we hear and we obey. Men and women are equal before Allah ta ala, so this talk of "equal rights" is a non starter, as Allah ta ala clearly states "The male is not like the female" Allah ta ala has given us the perfect system in life, to ensure kind treatment to both men and women.

[$HugoBoss$]

Equal rights??? Are you kiddin me, nice joke :rotfl:

[Lost_Princess]

men and women dont have equal rights and i dont really care coz im not a man what concerrns me is how some men think they are more superior to females and think that they can do whatever they want to women it really gets to me :(:(

[aisha2007]

And having said that it is my belief (and of my wife's), women were created to obey Allaah, their fathers, husbands and men-folk.


Menfolk? What does this mean?
We are 'created' to be be the other part of a pair, and obey Allah subhanawat'Allah and our father...then when we marry we obey our husband UNLESS it is something that is in direct conflict of the Sunnah and Hadith.

Women and men are equal in their devotion to Allah, but obviously there are some things were we can't be equal. Men are stronger than us physically, they are responsible for the family, I would think that is why they get a larger share of the inheritance. A woman is not required to spend her inheritance on the family, a man is.

I feel that I do have 'equal rights' to a man, just in different forms. I am not as strong as my husband, so he works outside in the garden while I clean the house......he goes out to work 80 hours a week to give us a life, I work less hours but make it up in the house and learning about my faith so we can share it together. We both have our salary in the same account, and can both draw from it anytime we wish and don't have to justify what we do with it.....so where am I losing out, or being treated as subservient?

But the final thing is......these are the words of Allah subhanawat'Allah, why are we we questioning them? Allah is the best of all planners and He knows best.

[aisha2007]

men and women dont have equal rights and i dont really care coz im not a man what concerrns me is how some men think they are more superior to females and think that they can do whatever they want to women it really gets to me :(:(

Men and women have 'different' rights.
You will come across men in all walks of life who think they are superior to females, that's not religion that's a personality flaw.

[AbuMubarak]

Walaikum-a-salaam

ALLAH (SWT) has already given rights to women.

Depends what you mean by 'equal'.

For example, in 'inheritance', the male of the household gets a higher share than the female.

But this is ALLAH (SWT)'s Decision - no-one has a right to question what The Almighty has Ordained for His creation.

:)

i dont understand why there were any posts after this one

he gave an excellent answer

[AbuMubarak]

men and women dont have equal rights and i dont really care coz im not a man what concerrns me is how some men think they are more superior to females and think that they can do whatever they want to women it really gets to me :(:(

read the post above

[AbuMubarak]

i dont like it that women dont have to work

i want to be maintained

why do i have to get up every morning and work while the women do not

and another thing, i want a woman to give me money

why do i have to go out to work and make money only to give it to the woman?

and the children? why cant they work? i think children shold be able to work, why do i have to feed these little rugrats

if they are big enough to eat, they can work

maybe in a sweatshop somewhere, making michael jordan sneakers

i dont care

it would teach them some work ethic at a young age

yeah, i agree, and that inheritance thing, why do i have to share my money when women can keep theirs to themselves

and shopping money,who is going to give me shopping money????

[AbuMubarak]

And the men?

good question, joha

firstly, our islamic communities are not set up in accordance with quran and sunnah

there is political leadership within the community, from the head of the tribe (whether that is local mayor or imaam) which is tied to higher and higher leadership until you reach the khalifa

it is incumbent upon men to hear and obey their authority

unfortunately, there is no political authority these days (no matter what the madkhalis say) and men are able to run amok

but that does not change islam, nor the rights and responsibilities of women

without an authority a man will have to face his lord on the day of judgement, without his shield of protection

[aisha2007]

i dont like it that women dont have to work

i want to be maintained

why do i have to get up every morning and work while the women do not

and another thing, i want a woman to give me money

why do i have to go out to work and make money only to give it to the woman?

and the children? why cant they work? i think children shold be able to work, why do i have to feed these little rugrats

if they are big enough to eat, they can work

maybe in a sweatshop somewhere, making michael jordan sneakers

i dont care

it would teach them some work ethic at a young age

yeah, i agree, and that inheritance thing, why do i have to share my money when women can keep theirs to themselves

and shopping money,who is going to give me shopping money????

Touche akhi

[Umm 'Umarah]

As far as I have learnt, in Allaah's eyes both men and women are equal in their adherance, devotion, love, fear and worship of Him. However, there are no "equal rights", meaning they're the same in their mental and physical make-up, or their own responsibilties.

Allaah has created man to excel over woman in some things and has created women to excel over men in some things, both ways. In Islaam, there are "just rights" in that every male and female is fairly treated according to their role, it's not injustice, nor wrong!

:jkk:

Precisely. We already have equal rights Alhamdulillah.

I don’t quite understand the purpose of this thread… should men and women be given equal rights implies that we do not have equal rights to begin with.

[UZMA KHALID]

salam

we should do want islam says :up:



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