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belal1
18-05-07, 09:14 PM
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070508-160mbps-downloads-move-closer-for-us-cable-customers.html

The National Cable & Telecommunications Association is holding its annual convention in Las Vegas (where else?) and this year, super-high-speed cable service is finally moving into the limelight. Announcements from hardware providers like Motorola and Texas Instruments suggest that we're finally moving closer to the promised land of DOCSIS 3.0.
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DOCSIS 3.0 offers two immediate benefits over what cable ISP subscribers are currently stuck with (DOCSIS 1.1): faster speeds and support for IPv6. The technology has the potential to bump download speeds to 160Mbps and upload speeds to 120Mbps, although that bandwidth will be divided up between households attached to a single node.

In the first widespread deployment of pre-DOCSIS 3.0 hardware, a South Korean cable ISP was able to pump 100Mbps service into the homes of its subscribers. This week's announcements provide hope that the kind of speeds seen in Korea will be making their way across the Pacific before too long.

Motorola, Singapore-based StarHub, and cable hardware provider Vyyo announced that they have successfully tested DOCSIS 3.0 hardware, delivering speeds in excess of 145Mbps. Testing was performed over StarHub's hybrid fiber-coax network in Singapore and used a combination of Motorola hardware and Vyyo's spectrum overlay products.

Texas Instruments has also announced a new DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem architecture that it says will enable "fast adoption and deployment of advanced DOCSIS 3.0 specification-based products." Called Puma 5, TI's solution provides advanced home networking support and is optimized for data, voice, and video traffic.

The announcements demonstrate that while the cable companies will have to invest in some new equipment, wholesale infrastructure improvements will be largely unnecessary. This is especially true for cable companies that have already deployed mixed fiber/coaxial networks. The upside? Faster DOCSIS 3.0 deployments in the US.

Cable companies have another incentive to roll out DOCSIS 3.0 in a rapid manner. Verizon and AT&T are investing heavily in fiber networks of their own. While AT&T's fiber-to-the-node solution won't break any speed records (DSL download speeds are capped at 6Mbps), Verizon's FiOS network offers the kind of bandwidth that is out of reach even for DOCSIS 3.0. Of course, much of that 3.5Gbps of bandwidth is reserved for television programming (leaving around 622Mbps for broadband), but FiOS has the potential for even faster speeds as more technological advances are made and FiOS TV is migrated to an IPTV system.

Comcast plans to demo DOCSIS 3.0 at The Cable Show this week and, more importantly, plans to begin DOCSIS 3.0 trials later this year, according to Cable Digital News. Large-scale DOCSIS 3.0 deployments are unlikely to begin until next year, and a November 2006 report estimated that only 40 percent of the cable modems in use will support the technology by 2011—by that time, FiOS will be available to well over 18 million households in the US. Still, it's encouraging to see one of those "three-to-five-years-away" technologies poised to finally hit the market.

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damn, and i was all hyped up hearing about FiOS's 25Mbps connection

nami
18-05-07, 09:29 PM
:rubeyes:

belal1
18-05-07, 10:46 PM
i give it atleast 5 years before we actually see this in action for regular customers...

Akib
19-05-07, 09:19 PM
:eek::shock:man.... that's fast!!

belal1
19-05-07, 10:52 PM
:eek::shock:man.... that's fast!!

oh yeah.... man...if we had that kind of speed, we'd be top notch

.: Rashid :.
19-05-07, 11:03 PM
In 5 years time us here in England might just have 20mbps connections as standard...IF we're lucky.

-Rashid

Irfan GBH
19-05-07, 11:42 PM
In 5 years time us here in England might just have 20mbps connections as standard...IF we're lucky.

-Rashid

This land has always been in the dark ages.

belal1
20-05-07, 12:00 AM
In 5 years time us here in England might just have 20mbps connections as standard...IF we're lucky.

-Rashid

if in 5 years we can even get 10Mbps to be standard here, then i'd be more than happy. like seriously, to have 10Mbps as standard would besuch a big boost. that 160Mbps is probably gonna be extremely expensive, so if we're lucky, then we might get 6-10Mbps as "affordable".

.: Rashid :.
20-05-07, 12:10 AM
if in 5 years we can even get 10Mbps to be standard here, then i'd be more than happy. like seriously, to have 10Mbps as standard would besuch a big boost. that 160Mbps is probably gonna be extremely expensive, so if we're lucky, then we might get 6-10Mbps as "affordable".

Yeah but you Americans are tight (not in the sense you use it :p) and haven't got a clue about money and its value...I mean, you've been complaining about "gas" (what you actually mean is petrol) prices rising to *shock horror* $3.x or something :eek: :rolleyes:

:p

8mbps broadband is completely affordable here (probably deathly expensive by your standards :p) but its hardly ever actually 8mb, it depends on the quality of the copper and how far you live from an exchange which is lame.

Considering 5 years ago were were on 300k broadband, and now its 2MB, a similar improvement would leave us at ~10mbps which sounds about right...but is disappointing :(

-Rashid

belal1
20-05-07, 12:17 AM
Yeah but you Americans are tight (not in the sense you use it :p) and haven't got a clue about money and its value...I mean, you've been complaining about "gas" (what you actually mean is petrol) prices rising to *shock horror* $3.x or something :eek: :rolleyes:

:p

8mbps broadband is completely affordable here (probably deathly expensive by your standards :p) but its hardly ever actually 8mb, it depends on the quality of the copper and how far you live from an exchange which is lame.

Considering 5 years ago were were on 300k broadband, and now its 2MB, a similar improvement would leave us at ~10mbps which sounds about right...but is disappointing :(

-Rashid

ayo ma brotha...we americans make the trend, ya follow it! so when we call it GAS, it's GAS. when we say it's in Style, ya follow it!

'nuff said! :coolbro:

.: Rashid :.
20-05-07, 09:59 AM
ayo ma brotha...we americans make the trend, ya follow it! so when we call it GAS, it's GAS. when we say it's in Style, ya follow it!

'nuff said! :coolbro:

You wish :p

Everyone here calls it petrol/fuel, NOT gas...

...its funny when you occasionally see americans over here who try an act cool and everything (probably whats considered "cool" over there) and they just get laughed at here :p

-Rashid

Guvna
20-05-07, 02:59 PM
whooooooaaaaaaaaa!!! thats some heaavyy speeds!!!! :rubeyes:

getting them kind of speeds here goes back to the old argument about who replaces teh copper backbone this ciuntry sits on!!!

belal1
20-05-07, 04:45 PM
whooooooaaaaaaaaa!!! thats some heaavyy speeds!!!! :rubeyes:

getting them kind of speeds here goes back to the old argument about who replaces teh copper backbone this ciuntry sits on!!!

how's traffic in UK? is it feasible to redirect traffic to dig up streets? or are streets way too narrow and holding traffic would cause severe economical issues?:(

.: Rashid :.
20-05-07, 05:38 PM
how's traffic in UK? is it feasible to redirect traffic to dig up streets? or are streets way too narrow and holding traffic would cause severe economical issues?:(

Varies place to place. Inner cities especially london can be extremely congested...suburbs and areas like that are fine...main roads can be busy still but they can always be redirected, plenty of routes like that...product of unplanned, "organic" streets etc

...compared to America, where its just a big fat grid, and roads have names like "4th Street" :zzz:

:D

-Rashid

nopah
21-05-07, 06:51 PM
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070508-160mbps-downloads-move-closer-for-us-cable-customers.html

DOCSIS 3.0 offers two immediate benefits over what cable ISP subscribers are currently stuck with (DOCSIS 1.1): faster speeds and support for IPv6. The technology has the potential to bump download speeds to 160Mbps and upload speeds to 120Mbps, although that bandwidth will be divided up between households attached to a single node.


the key word is up to 160mpbs & dont forget if you are on the cable ISP, your bandwith is shared with how many customers???
Its good on their PR. I used to work with Cable ISP and we also advertise on this fat pipe to gain more customer, what they dont know the pipe is our backbone.;)

Al-Muhaajiroun
23-05-07, 02:03 AM
In 5 years time us here in England might just have 20mbps connections as standard...IF we're lucky.

-Rashid
Salaam, but we already have a 25mb connection speeds anyways? am i missing somethink? :confused:

.: Rashid :.
23-05-07, 11:40 AM
Salaam, but we already have a 25mb connection speeds anyways? am i missing somethink? :confused:

They're available, but a) expensive and b) not standard.

I mean it will be standard as in, most people will have 20mb broadband for a reasonable price (£18) and I mean 20Mb not all that "up to" 20mb crap where you actually get anything from 0 to 20.

Virgin have just brought out real 20mb broadband in my area...but its like £37 which is a ridiculous amount to pay for broadband (~$75 for the Americans...)

-Rashid