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Islamiyyah
18-05-07, 08:00 PM
Shall this discussion go to the sisters section.....:outta:
sunrise
18-05-07, 08:01 PM
Shall this discussion go to the sisters section.....:outta:
brothers need 2 know things asweel! cause they will be the ones livivng with us and helping us inshAllah
I don't think this is as G rated as some posts..so i think it shld stay inshAllah
brothers need 2 know things asweel! cause they will be the ones livivng with us and helping us inshAllah
I don't think this is as G rated as some posts..so i think it shld stay inshAllah
i was just about to say that, but you beat me to it! :)
Islamiyyah
18-05-07, 08:09 PM
Yea I know they need to know too of course, but like I mean, some may go into details etc.
Well whatever, its fine I guess :)
imeg.org
18-05-07, 08:11 PM
brothers need 2 know things asweel! cause they will be the ones livivng with us and helping us inshAllah
I don't think this is as G rated as some posts..so i think it shld stay inshAllah
i agree
i think this is very benificial for brothers too.. specially i would and could help my habibati after the marriage insha'Allah in alot better way.. by knowing about stuff.. rather then me jst guessing what to do.. or asking.. and who else words would you count more.. the doctore or the Allah (swt).. :up:
sunrise
18-05-07, 08:38 PM
i agree
i think this is very benificial for brothers too.. specially i would and could help my habibati after the marriage insha'Allah in alot better way.. by knowing about stuff.. rather then me jst guessing what to do.. or asking.. and who else words would you count more.. the doctore or the Allah (swt).. :up:
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Shall this discussion go to the sisters section.....:outta:
I thought that but then I thought, like with the Tawfique Chowdhury 'pregnancy' talk, my husband learnt so much as I am sure many of the brothers did and as the Shaykh said, it is not something to be embarassed about but something they should be aware of.
and not forgetting that there are clear ayah in the Quran such as: “The mothers shall give suck to their children for two whole years (that is) for those (parents) who desire to complete the term of suckling.” [Surah Al-Baqarah: 233] therefore we should not shy away from it... though I'm not saying that we should all discuss it here as we should have haya but just something which I thought maybe of some use.
Apologies if I offended anyone with the post! :o
ummbilal
18-05-07, 10:00 PM
brothers need to know the importance of bfeeding to encourage and support their wives, oh and fetch them a drink and stuff lol
Any one knows where I can get Tawfique Chowdhury 'pregnancy' talk on the web or in audio please?
Any one knows where I can get Tawfique Chowdhury 'pregnancy' talk on the web or in audio please?
Qadimoon will Insha'allah be releasing it on dvd! :up:
dhakiyya
18-05-07, 11:05 PM
Yea I know they need to know too of course, but like I mean, some may go into details etc.
Well whatever, its fine I guess :)
Discussing the importance of breastfeeding is essential information for mothers and fathers.
Its not describing "how to" or bodily details. If posts do that you can report them inshaAllah and we can move specific posts to the sisters area if necessary.
Yea I know they need to know too of course, but like I mean, some may go into details etc.
Well whatever, its fine I guess :)
If a Muslim man is to be amir of his wife and children, then their health ought be among his most important concerns.
Any responsible Muslim man who is a husband and father, or who hopes someday to be husband and father, should know as much as reasonably possible about women's health concerns and those of children.
One of the wonderful things about the human body is that it is remarkably logical -- there really are very few mysteries. With relatively little effort, a person can get a very good general idea of how the human body works, and of symptoms indicating that it's not working as it should.
ze leetle elper
19-05-07, 07:39 AM
MashaAllah dhakiyya, brilliant tips, I can relate to every single one!
.: Anna :.
19-05-07, 10:13 PM
I think its okay to keep the thread here if ne1 wants 2 discuss something for sisters only can make a new thread on it insha allah :)
btw nawaf look in this parenting section i typed alot of notes from that talk, and as the other sister said qaadimoon r gna bring it out neway insha allah
I think its okay to keep the thread here if ne1 wants 2 discuss something for sisters only can make a new thread on it insha allah :)
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i think i remember something something somewhere somewhere in the (sisters forum maybe) about breast milk having shifa in it and using it to heal eczema something something. i dunno, but yeah it has shifa in it.
and grow up guys, most likely your mothers breast fed you.
.: Anna :.
20-05-07, 10:06 PM
i think i remember something something somewhere somewhere in the (sisters forum maybe) about breast milk having shifa in it and using it to heal eczema something something. i dunno, but yeah it has shifa in it.
and grow up guys, most likely your mothers breast fed you.
even the nurses from the nhs clinics and stuff they also said that about breast milk
well u learn something new everyday :D, i was breastfed thats why alhamdulillah im gorgeous :D
$HugoBoss$
21-05-07, 07:12 AM
Great tips sis dhakiyya, as long as Lambo and Fais are kept out of this thread, it will remain clean and mature.
Great tips sis dhakiyya, as long as Lambo and Fais are kept out of this thread, it will remain clean and mature.
... There no need for that now is there .. lol :o ..
Ok ok .. Im out :D .. Good tips btw ... :eek: .. :outta:
dhakiyya
21-05-07, 04:14 PM
even the nurses from the nhs clinics and stuff they also said that about breast milk
when my baby was newborn she had a sticky eye, and the health visitor said to put breast milk in it to clear it up inshaAllah. It worked quite well too, but didn't clear it up completely, eventually it had to be treated with saline, which got rid of it completely, but the problem was that I was told to wipe the eye the wrong way, and the baby book I had also said to wipe the way I was told, the doctor at the walk in centre said to wipe it the other way, using saline, and it cleared up within a day or so mashaAllah.
For reference, the correct way to wipe is towards the nose. I was originally told away from the nose, but the doctor explained that this was wiping the bactera across the eye (the stickyness comes from the tear duct which is next to the nose) - wiping towards the nose stops the bacteria from spreading beyond the tearduct.
So inshaAllah if you wipe the correct way, breast milk inshaAllah should help clear it up, and if it doesn't inshaAllah see a doctor to get some saline.
dhakiyya
21-05-07, 04:24 PM
Great tips sis dhakiyya, as long as Lambo and Fais are kept out of this thread, it will remain clean and mature.
Well inshaAllah Lambo and Fais will be fathers one day in the not too distant future, and then they'll need to know this stuff inshaAllah :up:
Al-ghurabah
21-05-07, 04:30 PM
Breastfeeding One's Child
AUTHOR: ‘Abdus-Salaam bin ‘Abdillaah As-Sulaymaan
SOURCE: Tarbiyat-ul-Awlaad fee Daw’-il-Kitaabi was-Sunnah (pg. 33-34)
PRODUCED BY: Al-Ibaanah.com
[From the upcoming Al-Ibaanah publication: "Raising Children in Light of the Qur'aan and Sunnah" by 'Abdus-Salaam As-Sulaymaan. The book was introduced and commended by Shaikh Saalih Al-Fawzaan.]
Breastfeeding:
Afterward, the mother should focus on breastfeeding the newborn child until the age of weaning.
Natural milk from the mother has a huge effect in the health and upbringing of a child. Allaah instructs the mothers to breastfeed their children for two complete years. This is for those wish to complete the period of breastfeeding. Allaah says:
“The mothers shall give suck to their children for two whole years (that is) for those (parents) who desire to complete the term of suckling.” [Surah Al-Baqarah: 233]
The reason for this is because the infant senses the affection of the mother while breastfeeding and he is in need of that.
Modern medicine has confirmed that there is a high percentage rate of disease and death for those children that were fed in their infancy with processed milk. Natural milk is also advantageous to the mother’s health in terms of mending the uterus after delivery and her digestive system.
Islaam also encourages it for it permits the breastfeeding mother to break her fast in Ramadaan if the fast will have an effect on her breastfeeding.
Perhaps one of the reasons why many children are not affectionately attached to their mothers and why there is such widespread disobedience of them in these times is due to the lack of using natural milk and the high use of processed milk.
Since breastfeeding has such an effect on the child being breastfed, the Prophet (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) prohibited Muslims from employing a dumb woman for the purposing of breastfeeding one’s child. [1]
Ibn Qaasim, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in Haashiyat-ur-Rawd commenting on this hadeeth: “This is since breastfeeding has an effect on an individual’s nature.” Then he said: “Al-Qaadee mentioned that whoever is breastfed from a stupid woman, the child too will come out being stupid. And whoever is breastfed from a woman with bad manners, it will pass onto him. And whoever is breastfed from an animal, he will come out senseless, like an animal.” [2]
Ibn Qudaamah, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in al-Mughnee: “It is said: ‘Breastfeeding changes personalities.’”
So how much more so for those who are fed formula milk which one does not even know the source from where it came or who processed it?
Source (http://www.al-ibaanah.com/articles.php?ArtID=159)
sis not tahta simple.. there are some babies which can get a reaction to milk.. so have no choice but to be fed formual milk.. also you have issues with mothers may not be able to produce enough for the kid..
but islamically and scientifically it is best :up:
<-Deen uL Haq->
21-05-07, 05:43 PM
Is it appropriate to use the B Word in a islamic forum?
dhakiyya
21-05-07, 05:57 PM
Is it appropriate to use the B Word in a islamic forum?
The word breastfeeding? It's in the Qur'an (well the equivalent Arabic word is)
As discussed in earlier threads, new fathers need to know a certain amount about it, see in particular my thread on tips for new fathers for helping their wives when they are breastfeeding. This is a parenting forum, and understanding certain issues surrounding breastfeeding is very important for fathers as well as for mothers.
If brothers who are not married do not want to read this thread, please do not click on it. For those brothers who are married, who intend soon inshaAllah to become married, and especially for married brothers who are inshaAllah expecting a baby, they can read this thread and learn how they can help and support their wives when they are breastfeeding.
Not all sisters have access to female relatives who can help them with breastfeeding, it would be very wrong to deny this information to brothers whose wives are not in a position to be helped by female relatives. Even for those that are able to have support from female relatives, their husbands need to understand why this is so important for them.
From now on all posts complaining that this thread exists in the parenting forum will be deleted as off topic. If anyone has any complaints about *specific* posts, then please post in the help desk. For example, a post explaining "how to breastfeed" or going into graphic biological detail would not belong here and should be moved to the sisters area inshaAllah. General discussion of breastfeeding will remain here for the benefit of new and soon to be fathers inshaAllah.
<-Deen uL Haq->
21-05-07, 06:02 PM
Ok
It is natural and if scholars of our time an discuss it and it is in the Quran, what is the harm?
As i said, no one is saying to discuss the ins and outs :smack: and Insha'allah, we can maintain hayaa! :o
dhakiyya
21-05-07, 10:16 PM
After discussing with other mods, we have decided to change the title of the thread because when the thread is at the top, you can see the title from the front page. Unmarried brothers can choose not to read this thread and its contents, but they can't choose not to see the title on the front page. So as a compromise, the title has been changed slightly.
Commenting on the title of this thread being "Mother's milk is best for your baby":
An infant is not able to synthesize IgA (an antibody) which is a first line of defense against microbes entering through mucosal surfaces (the respiratory, gastrointestinal and genitourinary tracts) and prevents colonization of mucosal surfaces by pathogens and mediates their phagocytosis.
SO therefore the infant has to rely on passive immunity which compensates for this initial "deficiency" (inability to synthesize IgA in the beginning):
The infant obtains maternal IgA from colostrum (foremilk) and milk during nursing and this coats the infants gastrointestinal tract and supplies passive mucosal immunity.
So yea
And may I just add that one is responsible for ones own thoughts (PURE rational and objective) so if a brother sees the topic of discussing breastfeeding as "disturbing" then HE is the one with the problem. It's how a person choose to look at it and it's quite interesting because it says alot about a person.
Desipower
22-05-07, 01:18 AM
I honestly don't see the need for this topic. Most of the people here are teenagers, not married pregnant girls. They have a long time before their time comes, and then they have relatives and parents to teach them. Plus plenty of great books out there these days. Lastly, this thread would've been better in sister's area. Yea i know brothers need to know too, they can learn from their wife or get a book.
ze leetle elper
22-05-07, 07:45 AM
Ok but this is a parenting forum specifically for users who are parents, parents to be, or just generally interested in learning how to bring up a child etc etc. If the teenagers are not interested in this then they do not need to be clicking on this section. I do not believe this thread needs to be in the sisters area, it is genel advice and tips for EVERYONE, both male and female. When a brother sees his wife with their baby he will understand why myself an dhakiyya are reiterating this over.
Like dhakiyya said anymore offtopic posts will be deleted. If you don't like it, then control yur fingers and don't click here!
dhakiyya
22-05-07, 12:37 PM
To add to what ze said, most users here are not teenagers. Ummah users span a huge age range. Have a look at all the topics in the parenting section and you will see that there are a lot of parents and parents to be inshaAllah exchanging information. In addition, teenagers are allowed to marry in Islam, and there is at least one teenage woman on Ummah who is engaged to be married, and there may well be more that I don't know about. So this topic is relevant to teenagers, and it is a very important topic that has a huge impact on the health of our children.
.: Anna :.
22-05-07, 02:23 PM
I agree all the complaining about the topic is getting really annoying, especially as we have explained already a few times now...
Dhakiyya I have a Q... as we all know Quran recommends 2 breastfeed for two yrs and u can wean before, wat about those ppl who actually feed for longer?! I'm asking cos I kno atleast one person who is still feeding her daughter and the child is three years.. I dont know if it is allowed or after two yrs they MUST finish? I just wondered..
dhakiyya
22-05-07, 02:33 PM
I agree all the complaining about the topic is getting really annoying, especially as we have explained already a few times now...
Dhakiyya I have a Q... as we all know Quran recommends 2 breastfeed for two yrs and u can wean before, wat about those ppl who actually feed for longer?! I'm asking cos I kno atleast one person who is still feeding her daughter and the child is three years.. I dont know if it is allowed or after two yrs they MUST finish? I just wondered..
I think I have read a fatwa saying that you should not feed more than 2 years unless there is a medical reason? But I don't know, I read the fatwa a long time ago before I knew how to check evidence etc and I have no idea what mufti wrote it.
I know in some societies (e.g. hunter gatherer) there is a necessity to feed the baby for about four years because there isn't enough food that children that young can eat. So I would imagine that it must be permissable for them if they became Muslim, cause the kid would be malnourished otherwise...? I have no idea about women from affluent societies who choose to breastfeed longer from an Islamic point of view.
Lambo5688
22-05-07, 09:43 PM
Great tips sis dhakiyya, as long as Lambo and Fais are kept out of this thread, it will remain clean and mature.
What! me and immature?
Me and Fais happen to be mature adults who just have a great sense of humor. Unlike some people. :D
.: Anna :.
22-05-07, 09:46 PM
I think I have read a fatwa saying that you should not feed more than 2 years unless there is a medical reason? But I don't know, I read the fatwa a long time ago before I knew how to check evidence etc and I have no idea what mufti wrote it.
I know in some societies (e.g. hunter gatherer) there is a necessity to feed the baby for about four years because there isn't enough food that children that young can eat. So I would imagine that it must be permissable for them if they became Muslim, cause the kid would be malnourished otherwise...? I have no idea about women from affluent societies who choose to breastfeed longer from an Islamic point of view.
hmm ok :) :up:
Family story...my grandmother breastfed my uncle until he was 4...the only one that she fed this long. He was 6'11" tall before he broke his back in an industrial accident
$HugoBoss$
24-05-07, 04:55 AM
What! me and immature?
Me and Fais happen to be mature adults who just have a great sense of humor. Unlike some people. :D
No i was referring to your neighbour :rolleyes:
Yeah more like gay sense of humor :rotfl: :outta:
Don't take it to seriously, some people take time to mature hehehe hahahaha lol anyways <----------ignore
No i was referring to your neighbour :rolleyes:
Yeah more like gay sense of humor :rotfl: :outta:
Don't take it to seriously, some people take time to mature hehehe hahahaha lol anyways <----------ignore
You reffering to me, when you say neighbour :( ... Im mature.
ok boys...don't make me send you to the corner :D
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