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sapphire_blue
18-05-07, 05:08 PM
Just to let all you brothers and sisters know the above products are NOT Halal.

This is not because of the rennet issue.

They all contain E120 (Cochineal - crushed insects)


Time to avoid these now folks.

Reema
18-05-07, 05:19 PM
How many threads are we going to open about this??

I think everybody is aware and knows now.

We had a thread about crushed insects from long ago:p

sapphire_blue
18-05-07, 05:22 PM
No, as far as I'm aware this has recently been made not halal. And they have only started adding this recently.

As I said this is not the same issue as mentioned in other threads. THIS IS NOT A RENNET issue.

Reema
18-05-07, 05:25 PM
No, as far as I'm aware this has recently been made not halal. And they have only started adding this recently.

As I said this is not the same issue as mentioned in other threads. THIS IS NOT A RENNET issue.

I know, but we have a thread about crushed insects from long long ago and that same thread said it wasnt halal either.

Omar Mukhtar
18-05-07, 05:27 PM
Which chocolates.

sapphire_blue
18-05-07, 05:31 PM
I know, but we have a thread about crushed insects from long long ago and that same thread said it wasnt halal either.


That maybe may have been in America??

As this was halal in last years Masterfoods list, as far as I can remember.

This is only a recent change in the Uk.

sapphire_blue
18-05-07, 05:32 PM
Which chocolates.

M&Ms Crispy

M&Ms Chocolate

M&Ms Peanut

(Skittles - Sours)

Omar Mukhtar
18-05-07, 05:34 PM
skittles is haraam contains gelatin.

YesilkoyBoy
18-05-07, 05:52 PM
Just to let all you brothers and sisters know the above products are NOT Halal.

This is not because of the rennet issue.

They all contain E120 (Cochineal - crushed insects)


Time to avoid these now folks.
I end up eating crushed instects everytime I go for a run outdoors. Who knew?

Umm Yusef
18-05-07, 05:59 PM
Do they put crushed insects in chocolates???.... are you sure???:rubeyes:

...you don't need to be Muslim to be disgusted...

imported_wicked
18-05-07, 10:35 PM
skittles are harraam cuz they got gelatin in them but i was on a islamic or muslim site can't remember you where but u can also get halal skittles that don't contain gelatin in them

sapphire_blue
18-05-07, 10:37 PM
Do they put crushed insects in chocolates???.... are you sure???:rubeyes:

...you don't need to be Muslim to be disgusted...


Yeah they do.

Known as E120.

veilofmysoul
18-05-07, 10:44 PM
:( Not good for chocoholics like myself. Khayr Alhumdulillah

Loobna
19-05-07, 02:47 AM
Jazakallah for this info - am not a big fan of m&m's anyway :) I dont like smarties either, which everyone finds really weird...

I thought skittles, the normal ones, were ok? my sis eats them a lot :S

Supernova Nebula
19-05-07, 03:06 AM
ohh no:(

Te'oma
19-05-07, 03:41 AM
WHAT!!! My M&M peanuts aren't halal? Zoinks!

Tiuchiha
19-05-07, 03:46 AM
I thought since locusts were okay to eat other insects were halal as well.

Supernova Nebula
19-05-07, 03:48 AM
well actually our M&Ms in malaysia is produced in Thailand and there's Halal logo recognized by teh Muslim council in Thailand but since I'll be in the Uk inshaAllah, this is really not a nice news.

Te'oma
19-05-07, 03:52 AM
well actually our M&Ms in malaysia is produced in Thailand and there's Halal logo recognized by teh Muslim council in Thailand but since I'll be in the Uk inshaAllah, this is really not a nice news.

*moves to Malaysia* Can't live without my M&M peanuts

Supernova Nebula
19-05-07, 04:07 AM
*moves to Malaysia* Can't live without my M&M peanuts

yea, we also have halal mars, snickers, something like skittles here:D and cadbury chocolate is also produced here, we have the confectionary here under liscence cadbury england:D

Te'oma
19-05-07, 04:09 AM
Well that begs the question...why would you ever want to leave :D

Supernova Nebula
19-05-07, 04:12 AM
Well that begs the question...why would you ever want to leave :D

One luggage full of mars, snickers, M&Ms etc will be prepared:D

Te'oma
19-05-07, 04:19 AM
One luggage full of mars, snickers, M&Ms etc will be prepared:D

well so long as you have supplies...:p

squirrel
19-05-07, 03:32 PM
I once ate a brown tablet under my grandfather's bed because I thought it was a brown M&M...

yes I was young...
yes I ran to the sink screaming because crunching into a tablet tastes awful!

(yes - very random)

(no - not happy to read M&M's aren't halal)

(yes - will make mental note not to read any further posts on food cos soon it will mean I cannot eat anything!)

znisha
19-05-07, 04:20 PM
Oh my gosh!!! :smack:
I soooooo didn't know that...
Which chocolate is halal to eat then?
Now I'm even so worried as to what snack to indulge in....
.......oh gracious!!!

Islamiyyah
19-05-07, 07:05 PM
Is this accurate?

I mean M&M's??????????????????






















Im going on a hunger strike :crying:

sunflower820
19-05-07, 07:17 PM
i think its important to mention in what country this change has been made.because in some countries foods are made differently.

sapphire_blue
29-10-07, 10:59 PM
Bump. For Hugo Boss and others . . . :p

Islamiyyah
29-10-07, 11:27 PM
Maybe it is haram in the UK but not North America. Skittles are haram in the US becasue they contain gelatin but I heard they dont contain gelatin in the UK.

sapphire_blue
29-10-07, 11:46 PM
In the UK Skittles - Sours are not halal either. It contains Carmine I think . .

http://www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.php?page=viewquestion&id=197

Good site for US users -

www.muslimconsumergroup.com (http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com)

Pro_Candy
30-10-07, 01:31 AM
Can someone bring proof that insects are haraam? As mentioned above, aren't locusts ok to eat?

I'm asking, because, nearly every processed food you eat will contain insects, whether or not it is in the ingredients. Insects crawl into the foods before they are prepared, and are processed right along with the food unnoticed. So, if insects are haraam (proof please), then we may as well say that all processed foods are haraam.

*asiya*
30-10-07, 01:38 AM
cochenial is used because it gives the red dye to food colour so is it only the red m & m`s that u cant eat if insects are haram :confused:

dunya_or_akhira
30-10-07, 01:44 AM
hello..skittles in england dont have gelatine in them unless they started putting it back in them

Kahmed
30-10-07, 01:44 AM
Insects are eaten in various countries and cultures, including Malaysia I believe..Does anyone have evidence that insects are explicitly haraam?

I don't eat insects, for the record.

bradford
30-10-07, 04:41 AM
All produce have defects such as insect filth or rodent filth. Wheat for an example requires more than 75 or more insect fragments per 50 grams before the the government will take action or 1 or more rodent hairs per 50 grams.

Cherries are rejected if more than 5% of pieces are rejects due to maggots.

For a complete governmental listing see http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/dalbook.html

P.S. Warning! If you are a chocolate lover, I bring bad news. Chocolate has lots of insect filth and rodent filth.

Bon Appetit
Brad

.: Anna :.
30-10-07, 09:18 AM
hello..skittles in england dont have gelatine in them unless they started putting it back in themno i think it is still gelatine free

abubakarbristol
30-10-07, 09:38 AM
DON'T PANIC !

There is plenty of halal chocolate out there.

Try Belgium Chocolate, you may never long for M&Ms, Mars, Skittles again.

ღ♥JuSt*bLuShInGღ♥
30-10-07, 11:29 AM
Just to let all you brothers and sisters know the above products are NOT Halal.

This is not because of the rennet issue.

They all contain E120 (Cochineal - crushed insects)


Time to avoid these now folks.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

why do they need to put crushed insects in human food.????????

:confused: why? :confused: why? :confused: why?

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

sapphire_blue
30-10-07, 12:34 PM
What is the ruling on eating insects, vermin and rodents?

Answer:


Praise be to Allaah.

Al-Nawawi said:

According to the scholars, the vermin of the earth such as snakes, scorpions, dung beetles, cockroaches, rats etc., are haraam. This is the view of Abu Haneefah, Ahmad and Dawood.

Al-Shaafa’i and his companions quote as evidence for that the aayah,

“and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabaa’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods),”
[al-A’raaf 7:157 – interpretation of the meaning]

These are things which the Arabs find repulsive. And they quote as evidence the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “(There are) five animals, all of which are evil and should be killed in the Haram (sanctuary of Makkah): crows, kites [a kind of bird], scorpions, rats and vicious dogs.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim from the report of ‘Aa’ishah, Hafsah and Ibn ‘Umar). It was narrated from Umm Shurayk that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded the killing of lizards. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim). With regard to the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘I find not in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be Maytah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth (by slaughtering or the like), or the flesh of swine (pork); for that surely, is impure or impious (unlawful) meat (of an animal) which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols, or on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering).” [al-An’aam 6:145]


al-Shaafa’i and other scholars said: what this refers to is things which you used to eat and regard as good. Al-Shaafa’i said: this is the most likely meaning of the aayah, based on the Sunnah. And Allaah knows best.


IslamQA

sapphire_blue
30-10-07, 12:43 PM
cochenial is used because it gives the red dye to food colour so is it only the red m & m`s that u cant eat if insects are haram :confused:


In Smarties it is used to give a pink and purple colour.

The best option, and as a matter of caution, is to refrain from eating it as the body heat of the sweets may cause each to run into the other and there is a danger of cross contamination . . .

GAL-actic
30-10-07, 12:47 PM
Which choc. bars are halaal?

Pro_Candy
30-10-07, 12:54 PM
What is the ruling on eating insects, vermin and rodents?

Answer:


Praise be to Allaah.

Al-Nawawi said:

According to the scholars, the vermin of the earth such as snakes, scorpions, dung beetles, cockroaches, rats etc., are haraam. This is the view of Abu Haneefah, Ahmad and Dawood.




Snakes, scorpions, roaches, rats, are all nasty. Dung beetles are mentioned specifically, but not other beetles. Why? Is it because dung beetles are called dung beetles for a reason?

What about just plain old insects? Ants, bees, things like that? Are locusts the only insects that are halal?

sapphire_blue
30-10-07, 01:01 PM
Islam is a religion of mercy and compassion. It only commands and prohibits that which is in the best interests of the human being. The human mind however, due to it being very limited and restricted, may not be able to understand the logic behind every ruling. It may not be able to comprehend properly why a particular ruling is given, but Allah Most High- the Merciful and All-Knowing- is the best to decide what is beneficial and harmful for us, for He is the one who created us.

Allah Most High blessed humanity with His beloved Messenger (Allah bless him & give him peace), as a light and light-giving. The Sacred Law (Shariah) of Islam that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him) came with from Allah differentiated between a living and a dead animal. Dead animals were declared unlawful (haram). Certain animals that were harmful to the welfare of humans were also prohibited, such as pigs, dogs, cats and wild animals. Thus, the animals that have been prohibited for consumption by Shariah is due to the fact that they are harmful for human consumption, whether we realize this or otherwise.

After understanding the above, it should be noted that each of the four Sunni Schools of Islamic law (madhhabs) have their own principles (based on the guidelines of the Qur’an & Sunnah) with regards to which animals are lawful (halal) and which are unlawful (haram) for consumption.

Below are the basic principles of permissibility and impermissibility in the Hanafi School with regards to animal consumption, as mentioned in the classical books of Hanafi jurisprudence. (Culled from: al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/289-291, Bada’i al-Sana’i, 5/35-39 and Radd al-Muhtar, 304-308)

Animals that have been clearly and explicitly prohibited in the Qur’an or Sunnah are without doubt Haram, such as a swine, donkey, etc.
Animals that are born and live in water are all Haram with the exception of fish. All types of fishes are Halal, with the exception of that which dies naturally in the sea without any external cause. However, if a fish was to die due to some external cause such as cold, heat, being thrown to the shore by the water, colliding with a stone, etc, then it would be Halal
Allah Most High says:
“Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine…..” (Surah al-Ma’idah, V: 53)In the above verse, Allah Almighty forbade the meat of all dead animals without differentiating between sea-animals and land-animals. Thus, all sea-animals would also be included in this general prohibition. However, fish has been exempted from this general ruling due to the explicit mention of its permissibility by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace).

Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him eternal peace) said: “Two types of dead meat and two types of blood have been made lawful for our consumption: The two dead meats are: fish and locust, and the two types of blood are: liver and spleen.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad and Sunan Ibn Majah)

Moreover, there is no mention in the Sunnah literature that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) or his Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) ever consumed the meat of a sea-animal besides the fish, hence if it was permitted, it would have at least been consumed once in order to show its permissibility. (Dars Tirmidhi, 1/280)

As far as the fish which dies naturally in the sea without an external cause (samak al-tafi) is concerned, Sayyiduna Jabir ibn Abd Allah (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “What the sea throws up and is left by the tide you may eat, but what dies in the sea and floats you must not eat.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, no: 3809 & Sunan Ibn Majah)

Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) forbade the selling of naturally dead fish (floating fish) in the markets. (Bada’i al-Sana’i, 5/36 and al-Ikhtiyar)

In light of the above, all sea-animals are Haram except for fish. It will be permitted to eat a fish even without slaughtering it according to the rules of Shariah. However, a fish that dies naturally without an external cause and begins to float on the surface of the water (Samak al-Tafi) is also considered Haram.

The third principle is that, amongst the land-animals, those that have no blood in them are considered Haram, such as a hornet, fly, spider, beetle, scorpion, ant, etcAllah Most High says


“…for he (the Prophet) commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure)…” (Surah al-A’raf, V: 157)Thus, animals that don’t contain blood such as spiders and others are considered to be from “what is impure” because a sound natured person would detest their consumption.
The only exception is that of a locust, for the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) clearly permitted its consumption, in the Hadith of Sunan Abu Dawud and Musnad Ahmad quoted earlier.
Similarly, Ibn Abi Awfa (Allah be pleased with him) was asked concerning the consuming of a locust and he said: “I fought with the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in six or seven battles, and we used to eat it (locust) with him. “ (Sunan Abu Dawud, no: 3806)


The forth principle is that those land-animals who have blood in them but the blood does not flow, in other words animals that do not have flowing blood, are also considered Haram, such as a snake, lizard, chameleon, etc.
The fifth principle is that all types of pests (hasharat al-Ardh) are also considered Haram, such as a mouse, hedgehog, jerboa, etc. The reasoning behind the prohibition of these animals is the same verse of Surah al-A’raf quoted above, in that they are considered impure (khabith) for consumption.
The sixth principle is, land-animals who have flowing blood in them and they survive on grass and leaves, and do not prey on other animals (i.e. non-predatory terrestrial animals) are all considered Halal, such as a camel, cow, goat, buffalo, sheep, deer, etc, although there is a slight difference of opinion within the Hanafi School with regards to the consumption of horse-meat, as will be discussed later. Also, a donkey is exempted from this general ruling, in that its meat in considered Haram for consumption.
Allah Most High says:
“And cattle (an’am), He has created for you, from them you derive warmth, and numerous benefits, and of their (meat) you eat.” (Surah al-Nahl, V: 5)

And:
“It is Allah Who made cattle for you, that you may use some for riding and some for food.” (Surah al-Mu’min, V: 79)
In the above two verses, Allah Most High uses the term “al-An’am” (cattle) which refers to non-predatory animals, according to the unanimous agreement of all the linguistics.

As far as the consumption of horse-meat is concerned, Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah have mercy on him) considers is somewhat disliked (makruh tanzihan) due to its honour and due to the fact that a horse is needed in Jihad. Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad (Allah have mercy on them both) consider it Halal, and it is said that Imam Abu Hanifa also retreated to this opinion. Thus, it would be permitted to consume horse-meat, although better to avoid.


With regards to the meat of a donkey and mule, Allah Most High says:
“And (He has created) horses, mules, and donkeys, for you to ride and use for show; and He has created (other) things of which you have no knowledge.” (Surah al-Nahl, V: 8)
So, in regards to all other non-predatory animals, Allah Almighty mentions that He has created them for consumption (as we have seen in the verses mention earlier). However, with regards to donkeys and mules, He mentions that they are for riding and adornment (zeenah). Had consumption of these animals been Halal, Allah Almighty would surely have mentioned it.

Moreover, Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the meat of donkeys on the day of the battle of Khaybar.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 5202)

Sayyiduna Abu Tha’laba (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) prohibited the eating of donkey’s meat. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 5205)

Sayyiduna Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that a person came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “The donkeys have been (slaughtered and) eaten.” Another man came and said: “The donkeys have been destroyed.” The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) ordered a caller to announce to the people: “Allah and His Messenger forbid you to eat the meat of donkeys, for it is impure.” Thus the pots were turned upside down while the (donkey’s) meat was boiling in them.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 5208)
With regards to the mules, Sayyiduna Khalid ibn al-Walid (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the meat of horses, mules and donkeys.” (Musnad Ahmad, 4/89, Sunan Abu Dawud, no: 3790, Sunan Nasa’i and Sunan Ibn Majah)
However, the fuqaha mention that the ruling on a mule would be that of its mother. If the mother is a donkey, then it would be definitely Haram. If the mother is some Halal animal such as a cow, it would be completely Halal, and if the mother is a horse, then the rules of eating horse-meat would apply. (See: Radd al-muhtar)



The seventh principle is that all terrestrial predatory animals and beasts, i.e. animals that hunt with their teeth, are considered Haram, such as a lion, cheetah, tiger, leopard, wolf, fox, dog, cat, etc.
The eighth principle is that all birds of prey, i.e. those that hunt with their claws/talons, are considered Haram, such as a falcon, eagle, kite, hawk, bat, etc. The proof for both these principles (seven and eight) is the famous Hadith of Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) prohibited the eating of all fanged beasts of prey, and all the birds having talons.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1934)
Hence, all beasts and birds of prey, beasts that hunt with their teeth and birds who hunt with their talons/claws, are unanimously considered Haram.
The ninth principle is that birds who do not hunt with their claws and do not prey on other animals, rather they merely eat grains and crop, are all considered Halal, such as a chicken, duck, pigeon, dove, sparrow, crow, etc.
Sayyiduna Abu Musa al-Ash’ari (Allah be pleased with him) says: “I saw the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) consuming (the meat of) chicken.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 5198)
The tenth principle is that if a Halal animal only consumes impure things to the extent that it creates bad odour in its meat and milk, then it will be Makruh to consume its meat and drink its milk. However, if it consumes other things along with the impure, or if it does not create bad smell in its meat and milk, then the meat and milk will be totally Halal. (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/340)
It is stated in al-Fatwa al-Hindiya:
“A chicken will only be considered a jallalah (hence makruh) if the majority of what it eats is impure, and that it penetrates into the meat in such a way that it creates a bad smell.” (See: al-fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/289)
The last principle is that if one parent of an animal is Halal and the other Haram, consideration will be taken of the mother. Thus, if the mother is a Halal animal, the offspring would also be Halal, such as a mule whose mother is a cow. If however, the mother is a Haram animal, the offspring would also be Haram, such as a mule whose mother is a donkeyThe above were eleven general and broad principles with regards to the consumption of animal meat, according to the Hanafi School of thought. It should be noted here that the meaning of Halal is merely that one may eat of the animal, but there are separate rules with regards to slaughtering and hunting these animals, for which one may refer to previously posted articles or the books of Fiqh. Failure to comply with these rules may well render a Halal animal Haram.

In light of the above general principles, the following is a list of Halal and Haram animals in the Hanafi School: (Both these lists of animals are not exclusive)

Animals whose meat is Halal:

Camel
Goat
Sheep
Buffalo
Stag
Rabbit
Cow (including mountain cow)
Wild-ass (The prohibition in the Hadith is of domesticated donkeys)
Fish (of all types, including prawns according to those who consider prawns to be a form of fish. Others however, don’t permit its consumption, for they don’t consider prawns to be from the fish family. For details, see an earlier post).
Deer/Antelope/Gazelle
Duck
Heron (grey or white wading bird with long neck and long legs and (usually) long bill).
Nightingale
Quail
Parrot
Francolin
Locust
Partridge (heavy-bodied small-winged South American game bird)
Lark (North American yellow-breasted songbirds)
Sparrow
Goose
Ostrich
Dove
Pigeon
Stork
Rooster
Chicken
Peacock
Starling
Hoopoe (any of several crested Old World birds with a slender down-curving bill, known in Arabic as Hudhud- that was sent by Sayyiduna Suleyman (peace be upon him).Animals whose meat is Haram:

Wolf
Hyena
Cat
Monkey
Scorpion
Leopard
Tiger
Cheetah
Lion
Jerboa
Bear
Swine/pig
Squirrel
Hedgehog
Snake
Tortoise/Turtle
Dog
Crab
Jackal
Donkey (domesticated)
Lizard (The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the eating of a Lizard. Recorded by Imam Abu Dawud in his Sunan from Abd al-Rahman ibn Shibl (Allah be pleased with him. Hadith no: 3790)
Fox
Crocodile
Weasel
Elephant (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/306)
Falcon
Hawk
Kite
Bat
Vulture
Mouse
Rat
All insects, such as a Mosquito, Fly, Wasp, Spider, Beetle, etc.And Allah knows best.
Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK

Abu Mus'ab
30-10-07, 01:06 PM
Snakes, scorpions, roaches, rats, are all nasty. Dung beetles are mentioned specifically, but not other beetles. Why? Is it because dung beetles are called dung beetles for a reason?

What about just plain old insects? Ants, bees, things like that? Are locusts the only insects that are halal?
Only locusts are permissable, nothing else, not even moths.

Pro_Candy
30-10-07, 01:13 PM
A sound natured person would detest a locust the same as an ant or hornet, right? To most people, a bug is a bug, when it comes to eating them.

So, aside from the Prophet (saws) eating a locust, there is no mention in the Quran or sunnah about insects beiing haraam? “…for he (the Prophet) commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure)…” (Surah al-A’raf, V: 157) doesn't mention insects.

Perhaps it's the poisonous insects/bugs that are haraam? Ants, scorpions, spiders, wasps, are all poisonous (impure?).

What about worms? (seriously)

Either way, insects are in our food. Unless we grow it or slaughter it ourselves, bugs are there whether we like it or not.

*asiya*
30-10-07, 01:19 PM
so no more chocolate ants,or hedgehog stew then .. ;)

how about snails though ? serious q cos they eat them with garlic where i come from.

Abu Mus'ab
30-10-07, 01:31 PM
so no more chocolate ants,or hedgehog stew then .. ;)

how about snails though ? serious q cos they eat them with garlic where i come from.
What is a snail? an insect? :confused:

sapphire_blue
30-10-07, 01:33 PM
For Pro Candy - Nu’maan ibn Basheer (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say – and al-Nu’maan pointed to his ears – “That which is lawful is plain and that which is unlawful is plain, and between the two of them there are doubtful matters about which not many people know. Thus he who avoids doubtful matters clears himself in regard to his religion and his honour, but he who falls into doubtful matters falls into that which is unlawful, like the shepherd who pastures around a sanctuary, all but grazing therein. Truly every king has a sanctuary, and truly Allaah’s sanctuary is His prohibitions. Truly in the body there is a morsel of flesh which, if it is sound, all the body is sound and which, if it is corrupt, all of it will be corrupt. Truly it is the heart.” Sahih Muslim

sapphire_blue
30-10-07, 01:36 PM
What is a snail? an insect? :confused:


http://www.natureartists.com/art/resized/1199_Snails_-_1.jpg

*asiya*
30-10-07, 01:42 PM
What is a snail? an insect? :confused:

one of these before : http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/pics/oct2005/snails.png


and after ... http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/784/427357.JPG

tastes like a whelk from the ocean but a land version http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Buckie.htm

Pro_Candy
30-10-07, 01:43 PM
So should we consider all, or most, of processed foods 'haraam'?


Think insect parts and rodent hairs are more of a rarity? Think again. An Ohio University fact sheet estimates that we eat from one to two pounds of insects each year, and without knowing it.

http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/06/29/how_many_insect_parts_and_rodent_hairs_are_allowed _in_your_food.htm

UniQue_BeDouin
30-10-07, 01:43 PM
Technically e120 yes is crushed insect but it a specific type and its used for its blood the blood makes the red m&ms red and other lollies that are red also red jelly ect so m&ms are alright aslong as u pick out the red and pink ones :up:

GAL-actic
30-10-07, 01:44 PM
one of these before : http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/pics/oct2005/snails.png


and after ... http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/784/427357.JPG

ewwwww I dunno if any of you is from morocco but they eat that alot over there (with a safety-pin)It's like the best snack :vomit:

Abu Mus'ab
30-10-07, 02:07 PM
http://www.natureartists.com/art/resized/1199_Snails_-_1.jpg
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: i know what a snail is :| i was asking whether it's an animal/mammal/insect etc

*asiya*
30-10-07, 02:09 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: i know what a snail is :| i was asking whether it's an animal/mammal/insect etc

err dunno its an invertebrate, which is basically an animal without a backbone so a bit like sea creatures http://www.amonline.net.au/invertebrates/

-Espérer-
30-10-07, 03:33 PM
Oh I love them

Stylish-Girly
30-10-07, 03:54 PM
Whats with people sayin blue smarties give you cancer? Does blue colourin really av that effect???

Smarties meant alot to me as a kid, now they're not good enough unless its a handful of the orange ones ;)

Arrakis
30-10-07, 03:56 PM
Eating insects is haram? :confused:

Urr
30-10-07, 03:58 PM
^Halal or Haram, does it matter why would you wana eat insects for.

Arrakis
30-10-07, 04:02 PM
^Halal or Haram, does it matter why would you wana eat insects for.

People in the far east have eaten insects for a long time, if food was scarce I would eat insects no probs, they survive.

I just didn't realise it was haram. :confused:

Abu Mus'ab
30-10-07, 04:32 PM
err dunno its an invertebrate, which is basically an animal without a backbone so a bit like sea creatures http://www.amonline.net.au/invertebrates/
hmmmmm i don't think they'd be halaal then :rubeyes: they sound ajeeb :|

$HugoBoss$
30-10-07, 04:41 PM
Just tell me Kit Kat is halal people, let me breathe at least :(

*Al-Qadr*
30-10-07, 05:24 PM
Just tell me Kit Kat is halal people, let me breathe at least :(

ITS ON BOYCOTT LIST... NESTLE