How fast is your internet connection? [Archive] - Ummah.com

cyber_abdullah

13-05-07, 05:20 PM

I just did another speedtest with http://speedcheck.ispconnect.co.uk/ and this time I get anj even lower 156kbs.

Here are some links exposing this trash isp.

http://tiscalisucks.blogspot.com/
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/t18538.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/about592.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tiscali+sucks&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

I was looking forward to getting BE Broadband, but they don't provide their service in my city and I live in a major city!

Anyone got any recommendations for a broadband service which is below £20 and has unlimited usage?

urban_rose

13-05-07, 05:23 PM

cyber_abdullah, mines Virgin, and its not too bad so far....

cyber_abdullah

13-05-07, 05:24 PM

Another test this time with internetfrog (http://www.internetfrog.com/):

Download: 189,264 bps Upload: 245,008 bps
Never get Tiscali Broadband

cyber_abdullah

13-05-07, 05:24 PM

cyber_abdullah, mines Virgin, and its not too bad so far....

Do you require a cable inserted into your house or is it done over the telephone wire?

urban_rose

13-05-07, 05:26 PM

Do you require a cable inserted into your house or is it done over the telephone wire?

:scratch: i think its the telephone wire, i dunno :o

.: Rashid :.

13-05-07, 05:30 PM

when u clik on the image. what u meant to do?

It should open the page...click on the little yellow/gold prymaid (London) and it should zoom in and start the test. Just wait for it to finish, it'll come up with your results, and a list of code. Just click copy next to "forum" and press paste here.

I just did another speedtest with http://speedcheck.ispconnect.co.uk/ and this time I get anj even lower 156kbs.

Here are some links exposing this trash isp.

http://tiscalisucks.blogspot.com/
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/t18538.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/about592.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tiscali+sucks&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

I was looking forward to getting BE Broadband, but they don't provide their service in my city and I live in a major city!

Anyone got any recommendations for a broadband service which is below £20 and has unlimited usage?

Yep...my friend's got tiscali and its awful. He just logs off randomly when talking on MSN cos the connection breaks.

I strongly recommend Virgin Media (NTL). If you live in a cable area that is. Few years ago NTL used to be awful but alhamdulillah their service has improved massively. Its very reliable (masha'Allah :p) and reasonably fast (see my original post)

Standard price (what we pay) is £18.00 but I think you get a few months cheaper when you join.

If you don't live in a cable area...virgin is probably just as good/bad as any other ADSL provider.

Virgin has installed 20MB infrastructure in my area recently, so their best package customers get 20MB broadband (for no extra cost) while us on the lowest package get no improvement :( Good marketing I guess...although they'd be more popular if they gave improvements universally.

Summary: Get Virgin/NTL cable broadband :up:

EDIT: Just read the other posts...abdullah, its cable. But trust me...its worth it ;) urban rose lol, its cable :p :)

-Rashid

belal1

13-05-07, 05:43 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125664756.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

if i tried this at my home, it would've been faster, atleast 10 times more :coolbro:

Amaara

13-05-07, 05:44 PM

Amaara

13-05-07, 05:45 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125663853.png

belal1

13-05-07, 05:48 PM

this is my favorite bandwidth meter site though: cnet...

just look at my results :rolleyes:

http://reviews.cnet.com/7009-7254_7-0.html?CType=2278&ac=716&ISPID=405001&ISPNAME=&&kbps=536453256734.28

.: Rashid :.

13-05-07, 05:56 PM

Im on BT with speedtest.net I got...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/-1.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

with Tiscali -dont know if i shud have bothered coz i aint on their serer..anyhoo i got..
87.15 Mbps

meanin my d/load rate is 10.89 mb/s

that is good right?

87mbps? lol that isn't possible :p

10mbps sounds about right...you got that with tiscali? :rubeyes:

The 2nd image you posted means you have 0.8mbps which is not good assuming your supposed to be getting tiscali 2MB? If so, you're getting less than half of what you're paying for...

-Rashid

urban_rose

13-05-07, 05:59 PM

EDIT: Just read the other posts...abdullah, its cable. But trust me...its worth it ;) urban rose lol, its cable :p :)

-Rashid

:D shows how much i know :o are you talking about the USB cable which inserts into the 'speed touch' thingy-majig :scratch:

Amaara

13-05-07, 05:59 PM

:rubeyes: thats no good...Im on BT at the mo..upto 8 MB..

my connection lways says 54mbps and when I had it checked with BT they found that it was in my 5.5 speed coz of my area or sumat...
im paying 18.00 from this month aswell...#

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125671056.png

cuda sworn ^ that was different the last time I did it

.: Rashid :.

13-05-07, 06:09 PM

:D shows how much i know :o are you talking about the USB cable which inserts into the 'speed touch' thingy-majig :scratch:

Ooh wait...do you have Virgin Media NTL, or the other one (you know when virgin merged with ntl and the other ISP...)

And no, cable means how the system actually works...if its ADSL, something goes from your computer to your phone socket. If you have cable, its a completely seperate thing to your phone line, and goes out of your house through the wall...

:rubeyes: thats no good...Im on BT at the mo..upto 8 MB..

my connection lways says 54mbps and when I had it checked with BT they found that it was in my 5.5 speed coz of my area or sumat...
im paying 18.00 from this month aswell...#

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125671056.png

cuda sworn ^ that was different the last time I did it

Yeah it changes slightly...thats slightly better (1MB) but still, not even close to 8MB.

My advice: Switch ISPs.

-Rashid

urban_rose

13-05-07, 06:12 PM

Ooh wait...do you have Virgin Media NTL, or the other one (you know when virgin merged with ntl and the other ISP...)

And no, cable means how the system actually works...if its ADSL, something goes from your computer to your phone socket. If you have cable, its a completely seperate thing to your phone line, and goes out of your house through the wall...

-Rashid

Its just the normal Virgin, had it for 1 1/2 years.....and i think its ADSL, thats what it says on that speed touch thing...and i dont remember anything about a cable so....

Amaara

13-05-07, 06:14 PM

Ooh wait...do you have Virgin Media NTL, or the other one (you know when virgin merged with ntl and the other ISP...)

And no, cable means how the system actually works...if its ADSL, something goes from your computer to your phone socket. If you have cable, its a completely seperate thing to your phone line, and goes out of your house through the wall...

Yeah it changes slightly...thats slightly better (1MB) but still, not even close to 8MB.

My advice: Switch ISPs.

-Rashid

Im on an 18 month contract- 12 months to go...

that is terrible 1 mb:(

unbelievable...but I have nevr had trouble watching films n programmes :o

urban_rose

13-05-07, 06:17 PM

Im on an 18 month contract- 12 months to go...

that is terrible 1 mb:(

unbelievable...but I have nevr had trouble watching films n programmes :o

thats one good thing about Virgin, you dont need to sign up to a contract :up:

.: Rashid :.

13-05-07, 06:22 PM

Its just the normal Virgin, had it for 1 1/2 years.....and i think its ADSL, thats what it says on that speed touch thing...and i dont remember anything about a cable so....

I guess yours is ADSL then (through the phone line) (assuming you had virgin before the merge)

I have Virgin but its cable (the NTL part of the merge)

Im on an 18 month contract- 12 months to go...

that is terrible 1 mb:(

unbelievable...but I have nevr had trouble watching films n programmes :o

When you download stuff what speed does it download at?

-Rashid

Amaara

13-05-07, 06:31 PM

i tend to avoid downloading and when I have don i haven't checked it takes like 20 sec for like tlks n tthat...if that helps:)

XRUHYX

13-05-07, 06:41 PM

I'm with Tiscali Broadband and my results are:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125683376.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Is that really slow? I'm paying like £18 or £19 a month.

Al Qadr

13-05-07, 07:06 PM

1116 kb/s download
155 kb/s upload

cyber_abdullah

13-05-07, 07:12 PM

I'm with Tiscali Broadband and my results are:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125683376.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Is that really slow? I'm paying like £18 or £19 a month.

You're getting less than half of what you're paying for (if you are on the 2mb contract). But your speed is better than mine, mine is 241kbs and i'm on tiscali as well.

huhwhatwhere

13-05-07, 07:26 PM

I'm with Be Broadband ant these are my results:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125698607.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

.: Rashid :.

13-05-07, 08:20 PM

i tend to avoid downloading and when I have don i haven't checked it takes like 20 sec for like tlks n tthat...if that helps:)

20 seconds? That sounds fast...although depends how long the talks your talking about are :p

I'm with Tiscali Broadband and my results are:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125683376.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Is that really slow? I'm paying like £18 or £19 a month.

See abdullah's post. Thats bad, because you're getting less than half of what you're paying for i.e. you are being ripped off. You should switch away from tiscali to save money/get your money's worth.

I'm with Be Broadband ant these are my results:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125698607.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Sweet :up: (how much are you paying btw?)

I'm waiting for someone on a university campus to come here and trash us all :p

-Rashid

alld

13-05-07, 08:35 PM

1116 kb/s download
155 kb/s upload

approx the same with me here . I pay around 30 us dollars a month . I am happy abot the speed and less payment as earlier it was around 75 dollrs on dial up .

Nawar

13-05-07, 08:36 PM

Dont know. But super dooper fast alhumdulillah. :D

Eemaan

13-05-07, 08:49 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125725952.png

i dunno what this means :(

Ruprecht

13-05-07, 09:01 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/92556482.png

Amaara

13-05-07, 11:31 PM

20 seconds? That sounds fast...although depends how long the talks your talking about are :p

'm waiting for someone on a university campus to come here and trash us all :p

-Rashid

I was referring to the normal lik 1/2-1 hr long islamic tlks by hmm different speakers..pop up says starts off with like 1 min but after like 20 secods im done :)

bint

13-05-07, 11:48 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125773767.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

is that good or bad?

Amaara

13-05-07, 11:52 PM

that, i think is the same as Akhi rashid786's..gud or bad Im not too sure...but If I take an educated guess I'd say it's more than 1mb but less than 2...

wether it is good depends on how much you are paying for?

and how much it is that you pay for it..

bint

13-05-07, 11:53 PM

i dunno. im not payin for it. my bros the one that does all this. i just sit bak n use it. :confused:

Amaara

14-05-07, 12:01 AM

i dunno. im not payin for it. my bros the one that does all this. i just sit bak n use it. :confused:

ah well no need for worries then lol..NOT FAIR I found out Im getting ripped paying 2ice as much as I should be :( and I dont work...thats £18/m :mad:

what is ur ISP?

btw i feel so techno...im using all this lingo n im talking about internet technicality stuff :cool:

bint

14-05-07, 12:02 AM

whats ISP??

Amaara

14-05-07, 12:06 AM

internet service provider :cool:

like bt, tiscali, virgiin/ntl etc..

bint

14-05-07, 12:07 AM

erm..i dunno :S

hw do i find out?

Amaara

14-05-07, 12:10 AM

no big deal just making te mos of being all techno lol..

actually whats your homepage...like when u put the internet on, u have to click on an icon that would say...''...''broadband? unless its internet explorer...

:cool:

bint

14-05-07, 12:12 AM

lool

erm is iternet explorer
yahoo.

Amaara

14-05-07, 12:13 AM

lol...ok no..but i have a feelin that if yahoo comes up it maybe that u r on bt...coz they have like merged :)

bint

14-05-07, 12:14 AM

oh yeah maybe. so if my connection bad?
lol

bint

14-05-07, 12:18 AM

ermm hmm
mine is..

british telcommunications. so yeah its BT.

Islamiyyah

14-05-07, 01:28 AM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125795495.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Ibn Sina

14-05-07, 01:34 AM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125796935.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Not bad .... I think :scratch:

Loobna

14-05-07, 02:03 AM

Uni residential braodband connection :) - has a mind of its own - sometimes its brilliant - sometimes I'd be quicker walking the 20 mins to the library to get the book out :rolleyes:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125802955.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Te'oma

14-05-07, 02:44 AM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125813467.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

belal1

14-05-07, 04:17 AM

lol...ok no..but i have a feelin that if yahoo comes up it maybe that u r on bt...coz they have like merged :)

idoubt theymerged sis. most likely they went into partnership/alliance, but never will merge. if yahoo was to merge with BT,then alot of the other broadband providers would lose out on using yahoo as their portal. see BT would have a upperhand, yet yahoo would be the one losing business.

besides...if yahoo did merge with anyone, it would be all over slashdot, news.com, techrepublic,and the other usual sites. look what happened last week, someone said a few words along the lines of "microsoft and yahoo..." and everyone thought microsoft was gonna buy yahoo.... all the sites was raving about it till the officials came and squashed it.

RashidD

14-05-07, 11:15 AM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/-1.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

bint

14-05-07, 12:56 PM

so was mine fast or not? :smack:

Guvna

14-05-07, 02:21 PM

so was mine fast or not? :smack:

tisd not bad! chalsay! :up:

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 04:27 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125725952.png

i dunno what this means :(

is that good or bad?[/QUOTE]

Depends what you're paying for. I assume you're paying like £18/month or near abouts, in which case, thats bad. If you're paying like £14-15 thats OK.

erm..i dunno :S

hw do i find out?

It says in the bottom right corner of the picture...your BT (you know that already though :p just pointing out to others)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/125813467.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Woah...thats fast for someone living in the middle of no where :rubeyes: I expected yours to be dialup-ish :p

so was mine fast or not? :smack:

Yours is a good speed, like Eemaan, assuming you're paying about £18/month. If you're paying any more thats bad, if any less thats very good :up:

-Rashid

huhwhatwhere

14-05-07, 06:26 PM

20 seconds? That sounds fast...although depends how long the talks your talking about are :p

See abdullah's post. Thats bad, because you're getting less than half of what you're paying for i.e. you are being ripped off. You should switch away from tiscali to save money/get your money's worth.

Sweet :up: (how much are you paying btw?)

I'm waiting for someone on a university campus to come here and trash us all :p

-Rashid

I'm paying £28 as i have a static IP, but with a dynamic ip its £24

urban_rose

14-05-07, 06:32 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126077933.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:rubeyes: mines so low...

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 06:35 PM

I'm paying £28 as i have a static IP, but with a dynamic ip its £24

May I ask why you bother with the static IP?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126077933.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:rubeyes: mines so low...

Wow yeah thats slow...and its NTL :rubeyes:

What package do you have? Where do you live...? (don't answer if you don't wanna :p)

-Rashid

urban_rose

14-05-07, 06:39 PM

May I ask why you bother with the static IP?

Wow yeah thats slow...and its NTL :rubeyes:

What package do you have? Where do you live...? (don't answer if you don't wanna :p)

-Rashid

i think we have the £15 a month one, im not too sure, and hah, my dad was blaming me for making it real slow :( now, im gonna tell him its stupid Virgins fault :p

bint

14-05-07, 06:49 PM

tisd not bad! chalsay! :up:
marow techyyyy :D:up:

huhwhatwhere

14-05-07, 06:52 PM

May I ask why you bother with the static IP?

Wow yeah thats slow...and its NTL :rubeyes:

What package do you have? Where do you live...? (don't answer if you don't wanna :p)

-Rashid

Well im planning to run an FTP server at home an perhaps a mail server. It just makes thing alot easier. Also Be broadband have constant connection problems with DHCP at the time i signed up, so alot of people signed up for the static ip.

nami

14-05-07, 07:13 PM

Broadband and phone for £20.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126097873.png (http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/product.do?id=11021)

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 07:45 PM

bint, I checked and you're in a non-cable area, thats why yours is so slow :(

i think we have the £15 a month one, im not too sure, and hah, my dad was blaming me for making it real slow :( now, im gonna tell him its stupid Virgins fault :p

Its not actually their fault :p You're signed up to a slower package so you are basically getting what you're paying for. Put it this way, other people are getting the same as you, but paying more ;)

Well im planning to run an FTP server at home an perhaps a mail server. It just makes thing alot easier. Also Be broadband have constant connection problems with DHCP at the time i signed up, so alot of people signed up for the static ip.

Is it for anything official, or just personal? If the latter, why not just use a dynamic dns service like dyndns (http://www.dyndns.com/) which is free and should suite your needs perfect. Saves you £4 :up:

Plus even if it is for something more official or whatever, you can always redirect (or mask or cloak or something, can't remember what its called) a bought domain to your dynamic one without anyone ever being the wiser.

Maybe its just me being bent on saving poxy £4 a month :p

Broadband and phone for £20.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/126097873.png (http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/product.do?id=11021)

Huh...I have broadband and phone, pay £18.00/month, and I only get 2MB :rubeyes:

-Rashid

nami

14-05-07, 07:57 PM

Huh...I have broadband and phone, pay £18.00/month, and I only get 2MB :rubeyes:-Rashid

Long live the power of haggling ;)

huhwhatwhere

14-05-07, 08:24 PM

bint, I checked and you're in a non-cable area, thats why yours is so slow :(

Its not actually their fault :p You're signed up to a slower package so you are basically getting what you're paying for. Put it this way, other people are getting the same as you, but paying more ;)

Is it for anything official, or just personal? If the latter, why not just use a dynamic dns service like dyndns (http://www.dyndns.com/) which is free and should suite your needs perfect. Saves you £4 :up:

Plus even if it is for something more official or whatever, you can always redirect (or mask or cloak or something, can't remember what its called) a bought domain to your dynamic one without anyone ever being the wiser.

Maybe its just me being bent on saving poxy £4 a month :p

Huh...I have broadband and phone, pay £18.00/month, and I only get 2MB :rubeyes:

-Rashid
Lol i did think of that. But at the time "be" where having problems with dynamics ip. Plus im not paying the bill my bros work does. So im not too fussed lol

nami

14-05-07, 08:31 PM

does dyndns work on linux? i used to use it with windows "back in the day".

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 08:44 PM

Long live the power of haggling ;)

No fair :mad:

Any tips? :D

Lol i did think of that. But at the time "be" where having problems with dynamics ip. Plus im not paying the bill my bros work does. So im not too fussed lol

Well, I'm sure you can stop paying now that Be've got it sorted?

...but seeing as they pay for it, no need :D

does dyndns work on linux? i used to use it with windows "back in the day".

Yes (http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/unix.html)

-Rashid

nami

14-05-07, 09:19 PM

No fair :mad:

Any tips? :D

tell em that you want to cancel because you're found a provider cheaper and faster, they will reduce the price or increase the speed. :D

Yes (http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/unix.html)

-Rashid

jazak'allah

ibn suleman

14-05-07, 09:21 PM

...

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 09:38 PM

tell em that you want to cancel because you're found a provider cheaper and faster, they will reduce the price or increase the speed. :D

jazak'allah

Haha...the problem arises when the person on the other end of the phone goes "OK sir, blah blah blah, you're now disconnected" :rubeyes:

-Rashid

nami

14-05-07, 09:40 PM

Haha...the problem arises when the person on the other end of the phone goes "OK sir, blah blah blah, you're now disconnected" :rubeyes:

-Rashid

what happened with me was, i was genuinely going to switch over, cant remember who with now, so i phoned them up and said, "cancel my broadband", they go "why?", I said, so and so companies are faster and cheaper, they go "ok sir, because you have been with us for x amount of years, we can give you the following deal", so I go, "ok" :D

.: Rashid :.

14-05-07, 10:03 PM

what happened with me was, i was genuinely going to switch over, cant remember who with now, so i phoned them up and said, "cancel my broadband", they go "why?", I said, so and so companies are faster and cheaper, they go "ok sir, because you have been with us for x amount of years, we can give you the following deal", so I go, "ok" :D

What was the X amount of years? I've been with them for 6 years...and I'm pretty sure we had NTL dialup before that.

-Rashid

nami

15-05-07, 11:39 AM

What was the X amount of years? I've been with them for 6 years...and I'm pretty sure we had NTL dialup before that.

-Rashid

i dunno how many years i've been with them, i just remember that i had the second best speed when i first joined them which was 500k. so it must be around 4 years or more.

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 03:18 PM

i dunno how many years i've been with them, i just remember that i had the second best speed when i first joined them which was 500k. so it must be around 4 years or more.

I've always been on the cheapest package there was :o

-Rashid

Amaara

15-05-07, 03:58 PM

I've always been on the cheapest package there was :o

-Rashid

lol...but wasn't NTL like really no good before..so slow..

My uncle had it and it was sooo slow :zzz:

It's probably better now though sppesh with all this virgin/sky rivalry..

nami

15-05-07, 04:01 PM

lol...but wasn't NTL like really no good before..so slow..

My uncle had it and it was sooo slow :zzz:

It's probably better now though sppesh with all this virgin/sky rivalry..

NTL has always been good for me.

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 04:32 PM

lol...but wasn't NTL like really no good before..so slow..

My uncle had it and it was sooo slow :zzz:

It's probably better now though sppesh with all this virgin/sky rivalry..

Yeah it used to be awful before...I dunno how but they got their act together relatively recently and its really good now. I dunno what impact the Virgin merger has had on that...not that much I imagine...although in the long term it may be good.

I've really started to dislike Sky recently...they're the Microsoft of Satellite TV/broadband :torture:

-Rashid

jzcasejz

15-05-07, 05:33 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126524602.png.....

xyz

15-05-07, 05:36 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126526684.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

What does this mean?? :o

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 05:37 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126526684.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

What does this mean?? :o

Its pretty much the same as me...NTL, paying £18/month, and getting what you're paying for :up:

Although I think I'll try nami's trick soon insha'Allah :D

-Rashid

xyz

15-05-07, 05:39 PM

Its pretty much the same as me...NTL, paying £18/month, and getting what you're paying for :up:

Although I think I'll try nami's trick soon insha'Allah :D

-Rashid

Mhmmm how do u know i use ntl??? :o

& does that mean its fast???

O and wats nami's trick?? :o :o :o

me.sawda

15-05-07, 05:44 PM

Mine is slowwwwwwwwww
Trick plz
Jzk

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 06:00 PM

Mhmmm how do u know i use ntl??? :o

;)

& does that mean its fast???

O and wats nami's trick?? :o :o :o

Its "fast" as in fast enough. Its not amazingly fast like some other peoples. But you're getting what you're paying for which is important, and assuming you're on NTL cable broadband, its reliable as well which is possibly as/more important :up:

Nami's trick is to phone up and say you want to switch because you found another ISP with a better deal (even if you have no intention of doing so...although you should probably make that intention so its not lying :)) and then wait a few seconds for the person on the other end of the line to offer you a better deal :D

-Rashid

xyz

15-05-07, 06:01 PM

;)

Its "fast" as in fast enough. Its not amazingly fast like some other peoples. But you're getting what you're paying for which is important, and assuming you're on NTL cable broadband, its reliable as well which is possibly as/more important :up:

Nami's trick is to phone up and say you want to switch because you found another ISP with a better deal (even if you have no intention of doing so...although you should probably make that intention so its not lying :)) and then wait a few seconds for the person on the other end of the line to offer you a better deal :D

-Rashid

Ohhh okie cool :up:

Last time i called ntl, i had an Indian bloke answer and he was soo rude and condascending :(

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 06:05 PM

Ohhh okie cool :up:

Last time i called ntl, i had an Indian bloke answer and he was soo rude and condascending :(

Haha, don't worry I'm usually rude and condescending to indian people on the phone if that makes you feel any better? :p

-Rashid

souljaa

15-05-07, 06:14 PM

:(:(:(:(:(

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126544180.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 06:19 PM

:(:(:(:(:(

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126544180.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Akhi how much you paying for that?

Do you live in like the lake district or some national park or something...?

-Rashid

Peacenik

15-05-07, 06:21 PM

I think it also depends on what time you're using the net.

Makes a huge difference (for me anyway).

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 06:32 PM

I think it also depends on what time you're using the net.

Makes a huge difference (for me anyway).

Depending on your contention rate...

I'm not sure but as far as I know, that only applies for ADSL connections (through phone line) not cable ones...?

-Rashid

souljaa

15-05-07, 07:12 PM

Akhi how much you paying for that?

Do you live in like the lake district or some national park or something...?

-Rashid

Normal pay...I live in a normal area lol...The internet company is so crap...Avoid TalkTalk at all costs :(

Peacenik

15-05-07, 07:13 PM

Depending on your contention rate...

I'm not sure but as far as I know, that only applies for ADSL connections (through phone line) not cable ones...?

-Rashid

JZK for that info, Rashid.

I'm on Orange and seem to have a really slow connection in the evenings and weekends.

During weekdays, it's fine but come after 6pm, it's a nightmare.

urban_rose

15-05-07, 07:18 PM

:rubeyes: and i thought mine was bad :eek:

.: Rashid :.

15-05-07, 07:27 PM

Normal pay...I live in a normal area lol...The internet company is so crap...Avoid TalkTalk at all costs :(

lol whats normal pay?

JZK for that info, Rashid.

I'm on Orange and seem to have a really slow connection in the evenings and weekends.

During weekdays, it's fine but come after 6pm, it's a nightmare.

Wa iyaak. Yeah thats kinda typical with adsl...alhamdulillah, I never experience that :D (if at all its not noticeable)

:rubeyes: and i thought mine was bad :eek:

Ukthi yours is stil pretty bad :S Problem is I don't think it gets much better in your area so...

-Rashid

urban_rose

15-05-07, 07:38 PM

Ukthi yours is stil pretty bad :S Problem is I don't think it gets much better in your area so...

-Rashid

thats not fair :( :torture:

Fahad Hasnain

15-05-07, 10:03 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126659841.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I pay $5 a month for this.

nopah

15-05-07, 10:25 PM

how fast?
I wish its faster. Im getting FIOZ http://www22.verizon.com/content/ConsumerFios/
but again its whorerizon, they are good to rip people off

nopah

15-05-07, 10:25 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126659841.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I pay $5 a month for this.
I can get it free. Wardriving !!!:up:

Abu_Mohammad_21

15-05-07, 11:07 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/126682576.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Am currently with Tiscali - very disappointed with their service. Trying to switch to Virgin.

MuslimTorrents.

15-05-07, 11:21 PM

Don't get jealous now :rolleyes:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/126688295.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

(Now wonder our users on MuslimTorrents.com (http://www.MuslimTorrents.com) achieve such fast download speeds)

belal1

15-05-07, 11:38 PM

MuslimTorrents.

15-05-07, 11:47 PM

u on comcast, fios, or what?
It's a T3/DS3 connection

cyber_abdullah

15-05-07, 11:47 PM

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 10:00 AM

England is waay behind everyone else when it comes to broadband :( (well behind developer nations I mean...)

-Rashid

Ruprecht

16-05-07, 12:17 PM

England is waay behind everyone else when it comes to broadband :( (well behind developer nations I mean...)

-Rashid

Yeah, I'm surprised you guys aren't really much ahead of us here in Oz.
We're usually way behind because of the low population density.
Although I haven't heard anyone mention download limits when talking about their accounts.
My account is $60au a month and limited to 30GB of downloads.

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 12:35 PM

Yeah, I'm surprised you guys aren't really much ahead of us here in Oz.
We're usually way behind because of the low population density.
Although I haven't heard anyone mention download limits when talking about their accounts.
My account is $60au a month and limited to 30GB of downloads.

£18/month (~40 AUD) and unlimited download. (Having limits would suck...I can do quite a lot of downloading :D)

-Rashid

nami

16-05-07, 01:19 PM

belal1

16-05-07, 03:10 PM

I've noticed that the americans here have higher average speeds than us in the UK. Once again an example of "rip-off Britain". Anyway, what is the average price for s broadband connection in the US? And what is the average speed and download limit, if any?

average price is about 20 USD for anywhere between 786kbps/3xxKbps to 1.5Mbps/786kbps. Normally, cable is about 30 USD a month and offers about 10-15Mbps and they usually pack in phone and t.v service with that for another 30 bucks each (it's called triple play package).

Verizon entered recently with its FiOS service which is all fiber, and start for 40 bucks a month, you get 25Mbps (or i think 30Mbps). FiOS is really fast, and I think Mace (a member here) had/has that and he seemed to give it a very high approval (as did EVERYONE else).

I read a report on News.com that when the gov't auctions off the analog tv spectrum, they want to give it to some mobile/cell operator so they could offer mobile broadband. basically the gov't wants prices for broadband to come down even further so that broadband penetration skyrockets. and ofcourse, next year hopefully sprint launches its WiMaX initiative in 17 states or so, so that definitely is something to watch as it could drive local broadband providers to bring down their prices even further.

Basically we hope to have broadband prices down to 10 dollars or less a month soon. that's the only way broadband usage can get high and we'd be able to compete better with south korea.

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 03:26 PM

average price is about 20 USD for anywhere between 786kbps/3xxKbps to 1.5Mbps/786kbps. Normally, cable is about 30 USD a month and offers about 10-15Mbps and they usually pack in phone and t.v service with that for another 30 bucks each (it's called triple play package).

Verizon entered recently with its FiOS service which is all fiber, and start for 40 bucks a month, you get 25Mbps (or i think 30Mbps). FiOS is really fast, and I think Mace (a member here) had/has that and he seemed to give it a very high approval (as did EVERYONE else).

I read a report on News.com that when the gov't auctions off the analog tv spectrum, they want to give it to some mobile/cell operator so they could offer mobile broadband. basically the gov't wants prices for broadband to come down even further so that broadband penetration skyrockets. and ofcourse, next year hopefully sprint launches its WiMaX initiative in 17 states or so, so that definitely is something to watch as it could drive local broadband providers to bring down their prices even further.

Basically we hope to have broadband prices down to 10 dollars or less a month soon. that's the only way broadband usage can get high and we'd be able to compete better with south korea.

$10 a month? :rubeyes:

Subhanallah, we're paying 36 USD for 2Mb broadband and thats considered a good deal! (nami pays 40 USD for 4mb but thats a special case :p)

There is actually deals cheaper than that, but much slower. Obviously there's faster services which are more expensive.

Yeah I remember talking to Mace about his connection... that was like probably a year ago, and our speeds still haven't got anywhere near :(

The govt. sucks when it comes to things like this...countries in the continent do a lot better than us let alone them in the far east and across the pond.

Soon India will probably have faster broadband than us :rolleyes: Maybe even bangladesh :D Hmm...nah, ain't happening :p

-Rashid

belal1

16-05-07, 03:35 PM

$10 a month? :rubeyes:

Subhanallah, we're paying 36 USD for 2Mb broadband and thats considered a good deal! (nami pays 40 USD for 4mb but thats a special case :p)

There is actually deals cheaper than that, but much slower. Obviously there's faster services which are more expensive.

Yeah I remember talking to Mace about his connection... that was like probably a year ago, and our speeds still haven't got anywhere near :(

The govt. sucks when it comes to things like this...countries in the continent do a lot better than us let alone them in the far east and across the pond.

Soon India will probably have faster broadband than us :rolleyes: Maybe even bangladesh :D Hmm...nah, ain't happening :p

-Rashid

actually just a little while ago, BT had offered speeds faster than what our DSL providers could churn out. you guys were the first (among us) to get speeds higher than 786Kbps, and then 1.5Mbps. It was only due to the cable providers that our DSL speeds got faster because of competition. people started switching from dsl to cable like crazy because DSL used to cost about 40 to 45 bucks a month, where as cable had cost 49 bucks a month but with speeds of 3 to 6Mbps. Then prices for DSL went down to 30 bucks and upped the speed to 1.5, then 3.0Mbps, and cable followed suit dropping prices to 30 but also upping the speed.

but u know, UK will get much faster thanks to BBC. they taking some initiatives about delivering more content with better quality (videos), so that means bandwidth requirements will rise, and that in turn will force telco's to up their speeds.

nami

16-05-07, 03:41 PM

These are the cheapest rates I could find all with unlimited bandwidth:

1MB - tiscali - £12.24
2MB - AOL - £13.74
4MB - Virgin media - £21.88
8MB - eclipse internet - £13.74
16MB - sky - £25.00
20MB - Virgin media - £32.37
24MB - be - £24.00

but they are all "rubbish" except virgin media because the rest seem to use bt's exchange centres which mess things up even if it says 24MB, you will only get what the exchange centre can send you depending on how far you are from it.

this is where virgin media is the best in the uk because when they say 20MB, you "most of the time" get 20MB.

and apparently their lines can handle 50MB (soon to be made available) and theoretically they can go upto 60MB...

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 04:12 PM

actually just a little while ago, BT had offered speeds faster than what our DSL providers could churn out. you guys were the first (among us) to get speeds higher than 786Kbps, and then 1.5Mbps. It was only due to the cable providers that our DSL speeds got faster because of competition. people started switching from dsl to cable like crazy because DSL used to cost about 40 to 45 bucks a month, where as cable had cost 49 bucks a month but with speeds of 3 to 6Mbps. Then prices for DSL went down to 30 bucks and upped the speed to 1.5, then 3.0Mbps, and cable followed suit dropping prices to 30 but also upping the speed.

but u know, UK will get much faster thanks to BBC. they taking some initiatives about delivering more content with better quality (videos), so that means bandwidth requirements will rise, and that in turn will force telco's to up their speeds.

Cable is generally better than ADSL...everyone should just abondon adsl and switch to cable, or even better, FTTP like Fios ;)

And I really don't see BBC's services over the net as making that much difference...real advanced, complete fibre infrastructure is very expensive and if initiated by private companies themselves isn't very appealing/may not be profitable. In the continent the initiative was taken by governments, and thats what needs to be done :torture:

These are the cheapest rates I could find all with unlimited bandwidth:

1MB - tiscali - £12.24
2MB - AOL - £13.74
4MB - Virgin media - £21.88
8MB - eclipse internet - £13.74
16MB - sky - £25.00
20MB - Virgin media - £32.37
24MB - be - £24.00

but they are all "rubbish" except virgin media because the rest seem to use bt's exchange centres which mess things up even if it says 24MB, you will only get what the exchange centre can send you depending on how far you are from it.

this is where virgin media is the best in the uk because when they say 20MB, you "most of the time" get 20MB.

and apparently their lines can handle 50MB (soon to be made available) and theoretically they can go upto 60MB...

Very true. When I was looking to switch ISP a quite while back I looked at a lot of them with unlimited as a requirement but unfortunately they all went through the phone line which is crap. Cable owns adsl :up: (don't ask me why...they're both copper :confused: I guess cos one's more dedicated)

-Rashid

Fais

16-05-07, 04:24 PM

2979k

is that good? .. For £5 a month?

belal1

16-05-07, 04:26 PM

Cable is generally better than ADSL...everyone should just abondon adsl and switch to cable, or even better, FTTP like Fios ;)

And I really don't see BBC's services over the net as making that much difference...real advanced, complete fibre infrastructure is very expensive and if initiated by private companies themselves isn't very appealing/may not be profitable. In the continent the initiative was taken by governments, and thats what needs to be done :torture:

if you don't have the demand, then things will remain the same. you need to demand in order for someone to make the initiative to fill that gap. now BBC is probably the biggest content provider in UK (i could be wrong, i don't live there afterall and never been there). if you look carefully, you see the content owners like BBC are the ones who hold the bargaining power. regardless of how expensive the infastructure may be, the technology has advanced enough to provide cheaper-than-before technology. remember, fiber isn't the only option, and besides that you can still churn out good speeds over copper provided the centers relaying the connection gets improved.

and for the record, no gov't here made the initiative to set up fiber connections. it was private companies who thought during the 80's (maybe 70's too?) the demand for fiber would rise at some point, so they started digging up streets and laying the fiber. all this time, that fiber was just there doing NOTHING, hence why it's called "dark fiber". lately however, companies started buying these dark fiber, mainly google, and started putting it to use. there's a rumor going around that google is setting up these shipping containers that act as small data centers connecting points in the fiber grid. some people are saying google may offer free net access or something, or they could resell that for cheap so consumers can get cheaper fiber, which ultimately helps their business (in ADs, youTube, etc).

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 04:34 PM

if you don't have the demand, then things will remain the same. you need to demand in order for someone to make the initiative to fill that gap. now BBC is probably the biggest content provider in UK (i could be wrong, i don't live there afterall and never been there). if you look carefully, you see the content owners like BBC are the ones who hold the bargaining power. regardless of how expensive the infastructure may be, the technology has advanced enough to provide cheaper-than-before technology. remember, fiber isn't the only option, and besides that you can still churn out good speeds over copper provided the centers relaying the connection gets improved.

and for the record, no gov't here made the initiative to set up fiber connections. it was private companies who thought during the 80's (maybe 70's too?) the demand for fiber would rise at some point, so they started digging up streets and laying the fiber. all this time, that fiber was just there doing NOTHING, hence why it's called "dark fiber". lately however, companies started buying these dark fiber, mainly google, and started putting it to use. there's a rumor going around that google is setting up these shipping containers that act as small data centers connecting points in the fiber grid. some people are saying google may offer free net access or something, or they could resell that for cheap so consumers can get cheaper fiber, which ultimately helps their business (in ADs, youTube, etc).

Which company did that and how did they afford/fund it and make profit from it? I mean obviously they're selling it now but for 10/20 years or whatever they would be making nothing and not recovering their expenses, which would have been massive.

If only everyone was that forward thinking...although obvious problem if everyone tries to be is most people will have wrong predictions and will end up bankrupt...

Thats interesting about Google...although like so many other things its jack all use to us over here :( Like Dell selling PCs with Ubuntu on...only in the US :torture:

-Rashid

belal1

16-05-07, 04:43 PM

Which company did that and how did they afford/fund it and make profit from it? I mean obviously they're selling it now but for 10/20 years or whatever they would be making nothing and not recovering their expenses, which would have been massive.

If only everyone was that forward thinking...although obvious problem if everyone tries to be is most people will have wrong predictions and will end up bankrupt...

Thats interesting about Google...although like so many other things its jack all use to us over here :( Like Dell selling PCs with Ubuntu on...only in the US :torture:

-Rashid

i think IBM was one of those companies? i forgot actually but i'm sure there's some wikipedia article about it. anyway, they did infact lose TONS of money. i think some of the companies went bankrupt aswell....

.: Rashid :.

16-05-07, 04:49 PM

i think IBM was one of those companies? i forgot actually but i'm sure there's some wikipedia article about it. anyway, they did infact lose TONS of money. i think some of the companies went bankrupt aswell....

Haha well there you go...thats exactly why no one over here is gonna take the initiative...unless the govt. does it. Because the govt. can afford to "lose" money in the short term and make it back in the long term cos they'll still be around in so many years. They also have enormous amounts of money which private companies don't...

I guess it'll sort of work out for some people in the US but here its definitely gotta be the govt. that takes the initiative :torture:

-Rashid

belal1

16-05-07, 10:58 PM

Haha well there you go...thats exactly why no one over here is gonna take the initiative...unless the govt. does it. Because the govt. can afford to "lose" money in the short term and make it back in the long term cos they'll still be around in so many years. They also have enormous amounts of money which private companies don't...

I guess it'll sort of work out for some people in the US but here its definitely gotta be the govt. that takes the initiative :torture:

-Rashid

i don't think it would be wise to go dig up streets and lay down fiber. it's ALOT wiser to use wireless broadband. if gov't's want to set up better speeds, let em free up the analog spectrum and force people to buy HDTVs. this solves two things: 1) it frees up the analog tv spectrum, and 2) HDTV adoption rises, so retailers profit/economy profits.

when the spectrum is free, let them run mobile broadband on that. you could auction off the spectrum and let the ISP's fight over it. that way, competition rises and consumers win.

then again, if BPL was accepted more widely, then u wouldn't have any of this problem since you'd get decent speeds out of your outlet :coolbro:

MuslimTorrents.

16-05-07, 11:41 PM

England is waay behind everyone else when it comes to broadband :( (well behind developer nations I mean...)

-Rashid
If you want to see truly blazing connections, visit South Korea or Japan. They're so far ahead in mobile and Internet connectivity, it's amazing.

Akib

17-05-07, 12:01 AM

3 MBPS $35 from Verizon DSL :)....

belal1

17-05-07, 01:32 AM

3 MBPS $35 from Verizon DSL :)....

u know, if ur gonna pay that much, u might aswell pay 5 dollars LESS and get cable.... with that u'd get atleast double that speed, or at most, 3 to 5 times more speed.

nami

17-05-07, 10:11 AM

2979k

is that good? .. For £5 a month?

thats good, what are you using?

.: Rashid :.

17-05-07, 12:53 PM

i don't think it would be wise to go dig up streets and lay down fiber. it's ALOT wiser to use wireless broadband. if gov't's want to set up better speeds, let em free up the analog spectrum and force people to buy HDTVs. this solves two things: 1) it frees up the analog tv spectrum, and 2) HDTV adoption rises, so retailers profit/economy profits.

when the spectrum is free, let them run mobile broadband on that. you could auction off the spectrum and let the ISP's fight over it. that way, competition rises and consumers win.

then again, if BPL was accepted more widely, then u wouldn't have any of this problem since you'd get decent speeds out of your outlet :coolbro:

Good thinkin...sounds like a plan :up:

...do you do economics?

If you want to see truly blazing connections, visit South Korea or Japan. They're so far ahead in mobile and Internet connectivity, it's amazing.

South Koreo nor Japan are really that far ahead of America in terms of speed...just scale/widespread/extent of usage...but America is one big country (3000 miles coast to coast) and south korea/japan are pretty small in comparison...

-Rashid

Peacenik

17-05-07, 01:21 PM

Anyone on Orange Broadband ?

belal1

17-05-07, 02:03 PM

Good thinkin...sounds like a plan :up:

...do you do economics?

not really, but i'm stuck between doing specialization in Management Information Systems and Finance/Corporate Finance.

Suliman

17-05-07, 02:06 PM

I'm on Orange now so it ranges from 56k :P to 8meg. Seriously though for £5 it's good, drops now and then though.

Suliman

17-05-07, 02:07 PM

Anyone on Orange Broadband ?

Yeah me

Peacenik

17-05-07, 02:10 PM

Do you find that it's really bad in the evenings and weekends ?

belal1

17-05-07, 02:11 PM

Yeah me

brother, i just checked your temp portfolio, did you do the graphics for ubuntu ME?

Suliman

17-05-07, 02:17 PM

brother, i just checked your temp portfolio, did you do the graphics for ubuntu ME?

No I was lined up to do the work as there designer they said went 'missing' I was working on a logo for them and then I was offline for ages. I'm going to do more work with them insha Allah in the future and they asked me to work with them on some applications. So that sounds fun :D

belal1

17-05-07, 02:32 PM

No I was lined up to do the work as there designer they said went 'missing' I was working on a logo for them and then I was offline for ages. I'm going to do more work with them insha Allah in the future and they asked me to work with them on some applications. So that sounds fun :D

yeah that would be good bro. we need more designers for that project :up: also, we gonna change the name of the project to reflect something more islamically, so we'd definitely like it if u work with us.

.: Rashid :.

17-05-07, 02:38 PM

not really, but i'm stuck between doing specialization in Management Information Systems and Finance/Corporate Finance.

Cool...I hear that a lot (management information systems) sounds boring :p

brother, i just checked your temp portfolio, did you do the graphics for ubuntu ME?

Temp portfolio? :scratch:

I checked the links in his sig and they all seem very familiar...br. suliman, doesn't jameela have an account here? I remember her posting it up here and me complimenting the awesome design :D)

You have a lot of talent masha'Allah

BTW whats your username in the ubuntume forum/mailing list? I'm Rashid (would you have guessed :p)

EDIT: Subhanallah are you really 30? :rubeyes: You look a LOT younger :rubeyes:

-Rashid

Suliman

17-05-07, 02:51 PM

Yeah I voted for the Alif name, first one to vote if you look ;)

Suliman

17-05-07, 02:52 PM

Do you find that it's really bad in the evenings and weekends ?

Yeah speed is really erratic at the best of times.

.: Rashid :.

17-05-07, 03:02 PM

Yeah I voted for the Alif name, first one to vote if you look ;)

I see it :D Are you subscribed to the mailing list?

-Rashid

belal1

17-05-07, 03:10 PM

Cool...I hear that a lot (management information systems) sounds boring :p

Temp portfolio? :scratch:
the brother has a temp portfolio on his firm's site.

I checked the links in his sig and they all seem very familiar...br. suliman, doesn't jameela have an account here? I remember her posting it up here and me complimenting the awesome design :D)

You have a lot of talent masha'Allah

BTW whats your username in the ubuntume forum/mailing list? I'm Rashid (would you have guessed :p)

EDIT: Subhanallah are you really 30? :rubeyes: You look a LOT younger :rubeyes:

-Rashid

where's his pic?! move thisthread to the bro's section!

.: Rashid :.

17-05-07, 03:20 PM

where's his pic?! move thisthread to the bro's section!

Temp portfolio? I thought he's a freelancer...what firm? :confused: Just gimme the URL :D

And lool just click some links and you'll see ;) the bro's put his pics up publicly (not on the forum) so I'm guessing he doesn't mind :p

EDIT: Oh right you mean the 77pixels studio thing...and his CV. Just read it...I see what you're talking about re: UbuntuME. Cool looking CV...I guess it suits design etc but I heard most employs hate flashy templates and colours in CVs? :(

-Rashid

Peacenik

17-05-07, 03:23 PM

Yeah speed is really erratic at the best of times.

Have you been in touch with Orange about this ?

Whether they deliberately slow things down in the evenings and weekends ?

belal1

17-05-07, 03:35 PM

Temp portfolio? I thought he's a freelancer...what firm? :confused: Just gimme the URL :D

And lool just click some links and you'll see ;) the bro's put his pics up publicly (not on the forum) so I'm guessing he doesn't mind :p

EDIT: Oh right you mean the 77pixels studio thing...and his CV. Just read it...I see what you're talking about re: UbuntuME. Cool looking CV...I guess it suits design etc but I heard most employs hate flashy templates and colours in CVs? :(

-Rashid

we'd take his work aslong as it's FREE!