Islamic schools

[MG]

Im trying to find a good islamic school inshallah to send my lil one, i found one and went to see it but i want to see what kinda results they ave been achieving and the school is not the OFSTED website (P.S. its a legit school!) for me to be able to check, anywhere else i could look?

[.: Anna :.]

can u not ask them in the school sis? insha allah maybe they have some kind of a brochure or something? if not they shud b able 2 tell u where 2 find the info, they shud not mind if u ask.. its a normal question?

[MG]

can u not ask them in the school sis? insha allah maybe they have some kind of a brochure or something? if not they shud b able 2 tell u where 2 find the info, they shud not mind if u ask.. its a normal question?


i thought they might get abit funny about me asking, like i dont trust them or summit , they gave me a brochure but its really basic.

[Umm 'Umarah]

Try here Ukhti..

http://www.ams-uk.org/

[MG]

Try here Ukhti..

http://www.ams-uk.org/


that jus lists the islamic schools from what i can see sis :rubeyes:

it doesnt go into detail about them at all?

j/k

[Umm 'Umarah]

that jus lists the islamic schools from what i can see sis :rubeyes:

it doesnt go into detail about them at all?

j/k

Hmm..Ukhti, ask them for a brochure as sis Anna mentioned...you are entitiled to one... or you could contact someone from the AMS to look into it for you.

[MG]

Hmm..Ukhti, ask them for a brochure as sis Anna mentioned...you are entitiled to one... or you could contact someone from the AMS to look into it for you.

j/k sis ,might try and contact AMS

[.: Anna :.]

lol well if u think they might get funny wit u asking for that info cn u get someone else 2 ask em n pass the info to u :p

[sis_sarah]

Leicester Islamic Academy all the wayyy
u need any info about it, u know who to ask ;)

[MG]

Leicester Islamic Academy all the wayyy
u need any info about it, u know who to ask ;)

im in london sis, i doubt i can commute their for the school run every morning :p

[dhakiyya]

Ask them what percentage of children got 5 grades A*-C in there GCSE's last year. Then check the data against the league tables. This is the main statistic that the league tables are compiled on.

[MG]

lol well if u think they might get funny wit u asking for that info cn u get someone else 2 ask em n pass the info to u :p


yeh ive asked a few sisters so inshallah waiting for them to get back to me :)

[urban_rose]

Yeah, i would also recommend checking with amsuk, they are quite legit with all their stuff :)

[MG]

j/k sis urban rose and dhakkiyya, inshallah good info

[Eemaan]

'slamic schools are usually private and dont get ofsteded :scratch:

ask about their SATs results and what percentage of kids achieve above the national average

....gawd i sound like a teacher :smack: *dies*

[Al-Irhaab]

Im trying to find a good islamic school inshallah to send my lil one, i found one and went to see it but i want to see what kinda results they ave been achieving and the school is not the OFSTED website (P.S. its a legit school!) for me to be able to check, anywhere else i could look?

wonder what gave me that idea :rolleyes:

[MG]

wonder what gave me that idea :rolleyes:

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[MG]

How fast are AMS in replying?

[heaven2002]

ofsted report isnt worth paper its written on
ask other parents who send children to that school and look around school urself

[MG]

ofsted report isnt worth paper its written on
ask other parents who send children to that school and look around school urself


yeh i read their reports and they are something i defo wouldnt take seriously, i know some schools they talk about and they had them down as "good school" !!! when thats the last thing they are

[heaven2002]

yeh i read their reports and they are something i defo wouldnt take seriously, i know some schools they talk about and they had them down as "good school" !!! when thats the last thing they are

yes and some 'bad' schools they have judged on are schools where the children are happy and safe if not the brightest

best thing to do is look around and get a feel of the place -is it welcoming, do the children learn and are they happy, are parents happy? forget league tables and such

[MG]

yes and some 'bad' schools they have judged on are schools where the children are happy and safe if not the brightest

best thing to do is look around and get a feel of the place -is it welcoming, do the children learn and are they happy, are parents happy? forget league tables and such

thingi s i dont know any paretns at this school
or anyone that goes to it for that matter, so i havent got really much to go on

[heaven2002]

thingi s i dont know any paretns at this school
or anyone that goes to it for that matter, so i havent got really much to go on


stand outside at hometime or better still before school opens and chat to some of the mums,

[Umm 'Umarah]

How fast are AMS in replying?

thingi s i dont know any paretns at this school
or anyone that goes to it for that matter, so i havent got really much to go on

Don't know Ukhti, but their website has a forum aswell..I'd say you are better off giving them a call mon/tues morning and speaking to someone on the phone directly..explain everything..they should give you an insight of what they know Insha'Allah.

[MG]

Don't know Ukhti, but their website has a forum aswell..I'd say you are better off giving them a call mon/tues morning and speaking to someone on the phone directly..explain everything..they should give you an insight of what they know Insha'Allah.


yeh inshallah ill call them on ,monday inshallah :)

[Medievalist]

My advice is dont just blindly believe what teh madrassah authorities tell you about the facilities at the school or their grades. Tell your husband to go there and check the madrassah out himself and SEE and CHECK that what they say works - works. Eg if they got a comp room with loads PCs make sure he sees them switched on with good software and internet access etc. If they say they got a functioning science lab make sure he checks it out that they actually have a functioning one with the gas supply turned on to the taps and with chemicals in the draws and on the shelves.

I aint saying be suspicious - but just make your enquiries thorough :D

[Medievalist]

Also you need to decide what it is you want for your child. If its good secular education then send him to a grammar school cos in all honesty none of the Jamias in UK are that good at secular education.

If you want him to get good religioius education then again check out the madaaris - some are fantastic for deen mashaALLAH.

If you want him to get secular AND deen then gud luck cos as far as Im aware no such jamia is currently in existence.

[sis_sarah]

im in london sis, i doubt i can commute their for the school run every morning :p

oh lol ok no problem

[dhakiyya]

Also you need to decide what it is you want for your child. If its good secular education then send him to a grammar school cos in all honesty none of the Jamias in UK are that good at secular education.

If you want him to get good religioius education then again check out the madaaris - some are fantastic for deen mashaALLAH.

If you want him to get secular AND deen then gud luck cos as far as Im aware no such jamia is currently in existence.

There's a Muslim primary school in London that I have heard is very good, both for religious teaching and general education, I think its called Al Noor or something.

[dhakiyya]

A good way to check out a school is to work there for a bit. Before I had Ruqayya I worked as a supply teacher (state schools, mostly non religious apart from one catholic school), got to see schools from the inside and believe me there was a huge difference across just one city, in how good each school was.

I've no idea how to go about getting supply work in the private sector, but maybe you could volunteer to help out at the school, like listening to children read (if its a primary) or volunteer classroom assistant (for secondary) - you would have to go through police checks and the like, but once you have helped out for a while you will get a very good feel for the place, its ethos, how well it handles the kids, how much kids are learning, how happy kids and teachers are and so on.

[Medievalist]

There's a Muslim primary school in London that I have heard is very good, both for religious teaching and general education, I think its called Al Noor or something.

Is that the one in croydon run by Ml Qasim?

If it is then I personally have objections to it. Its more a secular institute than religious.

I maintain that if a person wants to be an Alim and study properly he has to devote his time to that exclusively - its not possible to teach gcse/a levels and dars e nizami in 8 years at secondary school.

Thats why my intention is that if ALLAH Ta'ala accepts that a school is established which is a secondary school and its aim is:

1. to have a tahfeedh ul Qur'aan dept.
2. to have an excellent core secular deptment
3. to teach BASIC fiqh on salaah, siyaam.

I've thought abt this issue a LOT and I think that making a jamia with the invitation that students will be well-taught ulama AND secular graduates in 8 years is impossible in UK. It cant be done - obviously there may be a handful of intelligent students who manage it - but for the vaste majority its impossible and produces half baked results that I've seen all too often unfortunately.

In this light my thinking is that because upto age of 16 kids HAVE to be taught national curriculum in school - then there is not much good in giving them dodgy teachers jsut to fulfill the government requirements whilst having intention to only really produce ulama. I think we need to forget this idea of making people farigh at age 18 in UK.

If anyones interested in me explaining then lemme knw otherwise I shut up :o :coolbro:

[MG]

My advice is dont just blindly believe what teh madrassah authorities tell you about the facilities at the school or their grades. Tell your husband to go there and check the madrassah out himself and SEE and CHECK that what they say works - works. Eg if they got a comp room with loads PCs make sure he sees them switched on with good software and internet access etc. If they say they got a functioning science lab make sure he checks it out that they actually have a functioning one with the gas supply turned on to the taps and with chemicals in the draws and on the shelves.

I aint saying be suspicious - but just make your enquiries thorough :D


been to see the school, they were part of a good masjid (so someone told me) b4 they moved to their own premises across the road from masjid, due to expansion, they are due to open a secondary girls school also, not to far down the road (altho thast not relevant).

In the school i saw the a couple of the class rooms, the ICT room had about 15 PC's, they were on and yes they had internet access .... :D

But then again, they new i was coming in advance so who knows

I jus want him to learn more of deeni aspects of life, more than the rubbish he comes home speaking from being at the normal school he is now, once i walked past his present school and they have a stereo in the playgorund playing music at lunch time:rubeyes:

[Medievalist]

Thats good - obviously parents want the best for their kids but that aint always the easy option.

I seriously am in a dilemma. I aint a father yet but one day inshaALLAH and I think that how will I do correct tarbiyah of my children? I know what happens in secular schools and I also know that much of the same thing happens in madaaris in UK because of the situation of many of the kids sent there.

In this light Im seriously considering my options - I'd rather my kids have no secular education at all but have good akhlaaq and taqwa and knowledge of the religion. But ideally I'd want them to be well-rounded in the sense they know science and maths and english and history and about other religions and other languages in a good way. It sounds daft I knw - but I am seriously considering homeschooling my kids - atleats my daughters because I dont agree totally with girls jamias - with boys might send them abroad but for girls I'd want them taught at home and employ a qualified teacher to come and teach her at home. I knw its expensive but at the end of the day people fork out money for soo many things - why not forget the plasma screen tv and the flashy car and live in a small terraced house but have a daughter who is a gem?

Im sounding like a crazee person innit :wacko:

[dhakiyya]

Is that the one in croydon run by Ml Qasim?

If it is then I personally have objections to it. Its more a secular institute than religious.

I maintain that if a person wants to be an Alim and study properly he has to devote his time to that exclusively - its not possible to teach gcse/a levels and dars e nizami in 8 years at secondary school.

Thats why my intention is that if ALLAH Ta'ala accepts that a school is established which is a secondary school and its aim is:

1. to have a tahfeedh ul Qur'aan dept.
2. to have an excellent core secular deptment
3. to teach BASIC fiqh on salaah, siyaam.

I've thought abt this issue a LOT and I think that making a jamia with the invitation that students will be well-taught ulama AND secular graduates in 8 years is impossible in UK. It cant be done - obviously there may be a handful of intelligent students who manage it - but for the vaste majority its impossible and produces half baked results that I've seen all too often unfortunately.

In this light my thinking is that because upto age of 16 kids HAVE to be taught national curriculum in school - then there is not much good in giving them dodgy teachers jsut to fulfill the government requirements whilst having intention to only really produce ulama. I think we need to forget this idea of making people farigh at age 18 in UK.

If anyones interested in me explaining then lemme knw otherwise I shut up :o :coolbro:


Good points mashaAllah :up:

Why would someone need to be an aalim/aalima by the age of 18 anyway? Why not get a well rounded education say up to age 16, then study Islam in depth from say 16-24 (say at an Islamic university), then you have someone who is all round well educated as well as being an aalim/aalima. Plus if someone is going to be an Imam or Mufti, they need maturity and life experience in addition to a vast knowledge of Islam, and a general education is helpful to anyone inshaAllah.

Plus kids at 16 can have the choice whether to be aalims, doctors, teachers etc, because with a rounded education you have the choice. Also it would be more possible to study both Islam and something like medicine at the same time at uni. Secular universities allow students to combine subjects, so why not Muslim ones (in fact I'm sure they do in other countries inshaAllah.)

[dhakiyya]

Thats good - obviously parents want the best for their kids but that aint always the easy option.

I seriously am in a dilemma. I aint a father yet but one day inshaALLAH and I think that how will I do correct tarbiyah of my children? I know what happens in secular schools and I also know that much of the same thing happens in madaaris in UK because of the situation of many of the kids sent there.

In this light Im seriously considering my options - I'd rather my kids have no secular education at all but have good akhlaaq and taqwa and knowledge of the religion. But ideally I'd want them to be well-rounded in the sense they know science and maths and english and history and about other religions and other languages in a good way. It sounds daft I knw - but I am seriously considering homeschooling my kids - atleats my daughters because I dont agree totally with girls jamias - with boys might send them abroad but for girls I'd want them taught at home and employ a qualified teacher to come and teach her at home. I knw its expensive but at the end of the day people fork out money for soo many things - why not forget the plasma screen tv and the flashy car and live in a small terraced house but have a daughter who is a gem?

Im sounding like a crazee person innit :wacko:

no you don't sound crazy at all. i'm seriously considering homeschooling as an option. InshaAllah my family is moving to Saudi very soon, don't know how long for, but if we stay long enough, or move to another Muslim country then inshaAllah we will probably send our daughter to school there. However if we come back to England there is a very strong possibility of me home educating. Not just the reasons you say, but because I have serious reservations about the way kids are taught in schools, in particular mixed ability classes where the pace moves too slowly for bright kids and too quickly for kids that are struggling with the subject. Also I don't agree with teaching boys and girls in the same classes, for academic reasons as well as religious ones. Also the way the government messes around with schools and teachers is ridiculous, its all about the latest faddy teaching method that the government is pushing on teachers, drove me crazy when I was working as a teacher. And as a teacher I would know what I'm doing homeschooling. The only thing I'd have to do on top of that, is find someone qualified to teach my daughter inshaAllah (and any other kids inshaAllah) Islamic studies, tajweed, etc because as a revert to Islam I don't think I will learn enough to teach her this properly.

Homeschooling doesn't have to be doing everything by yourself, parents that homeschool in the same area can get together and teach each others kids stuff. For example if one is a tajweed expert, they could teach the kids tajweed, another parent who is a maths teacher by profession could teach them maths etc etc and everyone pools resources and skills to cover all the different subjects, and if there are any no-one can cope with, then they could all put money towards hiring a tutor for the kids for that subject inshaAllah.

Also, if you decided to hire a teacher to teach your kids at home, you would not need to hire someone full time, with one to one teaching you get so much more done that you could cover the national curriculum just in the mornings, and probably not even every morning of the week (say fridays off for Juma3a) - classes in state schools are held back frequently because of bad behaviour, mixed ability classes going slowly so as many kids as possible can keep up etc.

[Medievalist]

Good points mashaAllah :up:

Why would someone need to be an aalim/aalima by the age of 18 anyway? Why not get a well rounded education say up to age 16, then study Islam in depth from say 16-24 (say at an Islamic university), then you have someone who is all round well educated as well as being an aalim/aalima. Plus if someone is going to be an Imam or Mufti, they need maturity and life experience in addition to a vast knowledge of Islam, and a general education is helpful to anyone inshaAllah.

My sentiments EXACTLY.

Lets look at this objectively. You cannot have a school in UK - private or public - without teaching the national curriculum. end of.

In this light - the current system of having a jamia which just to fulfill gov. guidelines teaches national curriculum is in my view not the best and its an issue that some people have raised with the Buzurgs.

As we HAVE to teach national curriculum it's my belief that we need an islamic school - not a madrassah - which teaches kids national curriculum to a very high standard to GCSE at the least. By high standard I mean small classes - maximum 25 to a class, with very qualified teachers. If that means you need to bring in a hindu to teach the national curriculum or a jew or a buddhist then so be it. Obviously the classes will be monitorred but the best person for the job has to be employed to teach the subject.

Secondly - national curriculum subjects have to be taught in my view at a grammar school level. Thats means EVERY pupil has to come away with GCSE in:

Maths
English Lit.
English Language
Biology
Chemistry
Physics

MINIMUM - thats 6 SUBJECT yeh.

Note - I aint saying they come away with dual award in science or one science gcse but three seperate GCSE's.

Then comes in the Islamic education. I dont think going in with intention of handing out sanads to pupils at the end of the 8 years is the right way to go about it - its become unfortunately almost a ritual that the students capabilites or character is completeley overlooked and mere completion of 8 years is enough to hand him a certificate of ijaazah - it aint right.

In regards Islaamic education.
This can be combined with secular to build up qualifications

As a must students should do

Arabic GCSE.

As accessory GCSE's go - thats up for discussion but my personal inclination is to add two more wellchosen subjects - to make up a total of 9/10 GCSEs.

French/Geography/History/IT/DT.

Further - I dont think establishing a Faculty for Quran Memorisation in such a school is detrimental to the secular education and my own opinion is to have Tahfeedh Faculty also included.

Finally - basics of deen have to be taught. That means aqeedah and basic fiqh. No heavy study of masaa'il or mantiq or islamic history or deviation or anything.

At the end of the 5 years - from Yr 7-Yr11 a student leaves the school with a minimum:

9 GCSEs
CORE ISLAMIC knowledge
Hifz of the Quran.

At the end - if a student wishes to continue religious education then ahlan wa sahlan, if they wish to go college and then uni then they are equipped both in regards education but also are trained with correct islaah and tarbiyah inshaALLAH to deal with life outside.

ALLAH Ta'ala knows best but all these things require money and I make du'a that one day comes when such a place is established.

[.: Anna :.]

masha allah brother ur idea seems good, i think we definately lacking such schools here and it would be really useful if something like this cd b established insha allah

[MG]

Thats good - obviously parents want the best for their kids but that aint always the easy option.

I seriously am in a dilemma. I aint a father yet but one day inshaALLAH and I think that how will I do correct tarbiyah of my children? I know what happens in secular schools and I also know that much of the same thing happens in madaaris in UK because of the situation of many of the kids sent there.

In this light Im seriously considering my options - I'd rather my kids have no secular education at all but have good akhlaaq and taqwa and knowledge of the religion. But ideally I'd want them to be well-rounded in the sense they know science and maths and english and history and about other religions and other languages in a good way. It sounds daft I knw - but I am seriously considering homeschooling my kids - atleats my daughters because I dont agree totally with girls jamias - with boys might send them abroad but for girls I'd want them taught at home and employ a qualified teacher to come and teach her at home. I knw its expensive but at the end of the day people fork out money for soo many things - why not forget the plasma screen tv and the flashy car and live in a small terraced house but have a daughter who is a gem?

Im sounding like a crazee person innit :wacko:


i agree with some of what u say, (dunno if i could send the kid abroad tho!) but if i was able to home school i.e. if it was an option for me, it would be my first stop.

[Medievalist]

masha allah brother ur idea seems good, i think we definately lacking such schools here and it would be really useful if something like this cd b established insha allah

1. I've seen some really ignorant people make "jamias" for business ventures/inheritance for their kids in UK and I think if these ppl who cant speak english, dont even know how to raise their hands in takbeer e oola can make a school whats stopping a british born muslim from going and establishing one on a right way?

2. It requires support sister - a person cant do it on his own and my plan requires money. Small classes with highly qualified teachers means big bucks are required and call me a cynic - but people in our community would be more likely to spread gossip abt pilfering of funds rather than assist in establishing such a school.

But ALLAH Ta'ala grants assistance from the unseen. you know this is the only instance in which I would love to live in UK - establishing an amazing school which is producing amazing students - otherwise I dont wanna stay here. Im worried about how my kids'll turn out cos I knw how I am and dont my kids to be like that innit.

[dhakiyya]

Well you can be headmaster of the boys n I'll be headmistress of the girls inshaAllah :up:

Seriously, I'd consider working at a school like this. Teaching biology which is my subject inshaAllah. and also sitting in on the Tahfeedh and Tajweed classes inshaAllah :up: (for me to learn those things inshaALlah )

I would also recommend, unless the school is selective and only takes intelligent children, that the school is streamed, and that the curriculum for the less intelligent kids is different. To do well at subjects like sciences and maths, you need to develop abstract thinking. There are ways to develop abstract thinking skills, but around 30% of the population never develop these skills, and so many things in maths and science are beyond them. for such kids, I'd recommened not having GCSE's (in fact the old system of O-levels (for abstract thinkers) and CSEs (for non abstract thinkers) is far better than GCSEs) - but having an alternative qualification, with more emphasis on vocational/practical skills. There are such qualifications. The reason is, although grades A*-G are pass grades, most people consider anything below a C to be not very good and below an E to be pretty bad and a failure. This means the kids that are not able to get C's or even E's feel that they have failed before they have begun. The old system of O'levels had grades A-E which were harder to get than GCSE A*-E, and then fail, and kids that were not capable of doing those did CSE's which were easier, but which they could still get good grades in.

If you've never taught a low ability set in science or maths, you probably find it hard to relate to what I'm saying. I have, there are two types of kid in low ability sets, those who are bright enough and should be in higher sets getting good grades, but spend their school life socialising, getting into trouble etc and don't study. A properly run Islamic school should not get many kids like this, if any at all. However the other type of kid in those sets are those that try and try and study really hard, and are lovely lovely kids that really try hard, and still can't manage to get more than a grade F, and it breaks your heart to see them disappointed with yet another F, when at least with an easier level exam they'd get themselves an A or a B. They won't mind that they exam is easier, or the qualification is worth less than the harder one, because they'll feel they have achieved something. And no qualification is worthless, they types of jobs these kids want to do are the types you don't need to go to university for anyway.

[Medievalist]

See now thats things I dont know about. Like I said before - its not possible for one person to establish such an institute - I aint got a clue abt anything really - just an ideal and obviously people who know what they are on about would be turned to for mashwarah.

Btw - my wife will be headmistress - it makes running things a lot easier when the HeadMaster and HeadMistress are Mr and Mrs - you can be deputy head which basically means you do all the work and my Mrs gets all the credit - I like the idea of that :D

Seriously make du'a that some brothers in UK make sincere intention and amal to establish a school that we need.

Btw - in my school fantasy - the kids dont walk around in school uniform - they wear thobe and topee - eat on the floor, the sunnah is inculcated in them. Basically only where they need to be secular sort of they will be - they dont have to wear shirt and trousers so they will wear sunnah libaas. And sports - now Im getting really cuckoo - the lads will have horses and archery range and an indoor swimming pool and a wrestling gymnasia :rotfl:

INSHAALLAH - you know from small ideas ALLAH Ta'ala grows mighty things - perhaps my jokes will be accepted by some ALLAH Walee here and they will establish a school in UK which excells in almost every field. How amazing would that be!!

[dhakiyya]

MashaAllah bro, it needs to be done :up:

I also have very strong ideas on how to maintain discipline in a school. Uncle Te'oma Boot Camp style. :up:

[MG]

i wish i could home school :(

in this school im talking about, they teach boys and girls separately, they cover the National Curriculam in the mornings and then the afternoon is spent on islamic studies, Hifdh and Tajweed classes, on friday they finish school at 12noon so people can go for jummah

[.: Anna :.]

i wish i could home school :(

in this school im talking about, they teach boys and girls separately, they cover the National Curriculam in the mornings and then the afternoon is spent on islamic studies, Hifdh and Tajweed classes, on friday they finish school at 12noon so people can go for jummahthat sounds good sis insha allah

[Medievalist]

MashaAllah bro, it needs to be done :up:

I also have very strong ideas on how to maintain discipline in a school. Uncle Te'oma Boot Camp style. :up:

In regards discipline there would have to be set guidelines and unfortunately wouldnt involved a beating cos then school gonna get closed down.

But should be a clear policy on disciplinary behaviour and should also not be a fear that we cant expel a pupil because where we gonna pay for x,y,z because then it becomes a matter of business and not ta'leem. If a school is acceptable to ALLAH then ALLAH Ta'ala himself will deal with the finances so I wouldnt have any bad feeling in expelling 10 students for breaking of rules etc - basically the only kids who are taught at the beginning are those who are serious.

Atm what happens is that all the problem kids are accepted into the madrassah cos its the last option - this school aint somewhere to send the black sheep in the hope he gonna be corrected - its where you send capable sons to excel.

Later other branches etc can be established to deal with different levels of students. and a madrassah for blind students - ALLAH ALLAH - how amazing would that be!! Imagine the noor of such a madrassah - qasam there's so much to do in life and so little time and still we waste loads :torture:

[dhakiyya]

well you don't need corporal punishment when you do punishments that make the kid wish he'd been hit instead...

I totally agree on expelling. Problem in state schools is that the schools are actually penalised for expelling, not just losing the funding for that kid, but a thousand or so pounds in addition. Governments way of stopping kids getting expelled, and it has resulted in mayhem in schools cause the kids see the naughtiest kids get away without proper punishment. Undermines the entire system and the good kids don't see the point in being good any more.

With regards kids with physical handicap, they can go to the normal school, just make adjustments for them - wheelchair ramps, braille books or talking books, see how schools do this at the moment. its one thing that state schools are very good at mashaAllah. So long as there is no impairment to their general learning ability, they can learn with everyone else.

Talking of teaching blind kids, this one class of year 8 kids, lowish ability science set, but quite mixed, loads of naughty and lazy kids, there was this little girl with very little sight, no colour vision and needed textbook pages to be re-printed extra large size....... well there was this test they did, and one question was to name the colours of the rainbow in the correct order. Only one kid in the whole class got it right (the rest were not thick, just didn't bother to learn the stuff)... yes the little partially sighted girl who had no colour vision at all, mashaAllah.

[Medievalist]

Talking of teaching blind kids, this one class of year 8 kids, lowish ability science set, but quite mixed, loads of naughty and lazy kids, there was this little girl with very little sight, no colour vision and needed textbook pages to be re-printed extra large size....... well there was this test they did, and one question was to name the colours of the rainbow in the correct order. Only one kid in the whole class got it right (the rest were not thick, just didn't bother to learn the stuff)... yes the little partially sighted girl who had no colour vision at all, mashaAllah.

mashaALLAH - if I was sentimental I'd be going - awwwwwww - but Im not so I wont. :coolbro:

[MG]

Anyone's kids go to islamic school? my lil one is starting soon inshallah (took an eternity to get in).

What are ur experiences?