Is it wrong..?

[RaNdOm]

:salams

“Verily, those who disbelieve and did wrong; Allaah will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way — Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever; and this is ever easy for Allaah” [al-Nisaa’ 4:168-169].

is it wrong to get sad when a non muslim dies? :( cos even though they've probably been shown signs from Allah swt and we can't pray that they're forgiven... is it still wrong to get sad? cos it's like that was it... now they can't ever go back... and what they're to face has all started takin place, and only if they had believed then we could all go to paradise inshaAllah...:( i just wish everyone was muslim... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen

[Al-Irhaab]

:salams

“Verily, those who disbelieve and did wrong; Allaah will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way — Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever; and this is ever easy for Allaah” [al-Nisaa’ 4:168-169].

is it wrong to get sad when a non muslim dies? :( cos even though they've probably been shown signs from Allah swt and we can't pray that they're forgiven... is it still wrong to get sad? cos it's like that was it... now they can't ever go back... and what they're to face has all started takin place, and only if they had believed then we could all go to paradise inshaAllah...:( i just wish everyone was muslim... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen

the prophet (SaW) felt sad at the death of abu talib...? allah (swT) knows best whether its forbidden or not and whether that was an exceptional case.... but i don't see any daleel to say its forbidden to feel sad when a non-muslim dies....

[RaNdOm]

the prophet (SaW) felt sad at the death of abu talib...? allah (swT) knows best whether its forbidden or not and whether that was an exceptional case.... but i don't see any daleel to say its forbidden to feel sad when a non-muslim dies....

:salams

:jkk:

[Salman Al-Farsi]

IF the non-musilm is a relative or something it is only natural to grieve.

[Khubaib]

:salams

“Verily, those who disbelieve and did wrong; Allaah will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way — Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever; and this is ever easy for Allaah” [al-Nisaa’ 4:168-169].

is it wrong to get sad when a non muslim dies? :( cos even though they've probably been shown signs from Allah swt and we can't pray that they're forgiven... is it still wrong to get sad? cos it's like that was it... now they can't ever go back... and what they're to face has all started takin place, and only if they had believed then we could all go to paradise inshaAllah...:( i just wish everyone was muslim... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen

I also wish everyone was Muslim. Allah knows best though and is just to all of his creation.

[.: Anna :.]

its natural that we will feel something, we dnt hav a heart made of stone.. we just have to remember and not transgress in wat we are allowed to do, ie in terms of starting to make dua for them after death etc

[RaNdOm]

:salams

so so so so so so so sad :(

[K h a l i l]

:salams

so so so so so so so sad :(

Did a non-muslim just die? :(

Or..

Are you just sad.. coz... you're happy being sad?

[RaNdOm]

Did a non-muslim just die? :(

Or..

Are you just sad.. coz... you're happy being sad?

:salams

dont u think its sad...

[K h a l i l]

:salams

dont u think its sad...

:salams:

Yeah.. I do..

So.. what are we sad about? :confused:

[RaNdOm]

:salams:

Yeah.. I do..

So.. what are we sad about? :confused:

:wswrwb:

shudnt u be revisin for ur gcse's??

and non muslims dyin :torture:but i dno... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen...

[K h a l i l]

:wswrwb:

shudnt u be revisin for ur gcse's??

and non muslims dyin :torture:but i dno... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen...

forget my GCSEs.. Got one left.. and im gonna revise all day today inshallah.

We sad coz kufaar are dying?... Yeah.. well now i get it. Its not so bad when muslims die.. Coz.. they will go to jannah.

But kufaar.. no hope :( ... WE coulda saved each one..

[angel*]

Did a non-muslim just die? :(

Or..

Are you just sad.. coz... you're happy being sad?

:smack:



:wswrwb:

shudnt u be revisin for ur gcse's??

and non muslims dyin :torture:but i dno... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen...

Ameen. Aww Randy, yh i feel sad 2 when any1 dies be they muslim or non-muslim its an emotion we have no control over.:(

[Abu Nuh AMW]

asalamu'alaikum wa'rahmatullah

Depends really. We probably should be sad knowing that they died as non-muslims and we didn't do enough to bring them to Islam.

but in battle, I highly doubt muslims would be sad about them dying, rather the opposite.

[Raziel]

:salams

“Verily, those who disbelieve and did wrong; Allaah will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way — Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever; and this is ever easy for Allaah” [al-Nisaa’ 4:168-169].

is it wrong to get sad when a non muslim dies? :( cos even though they've probably been shown signs from Allah swt and we can't pray that they're forgiven... is it still wrong to get sad? cos it's like that was it... now they can't ever go back... and what they're to face has all started takin place, and only if they had believed then we could all go to paradise inshaAllah...:( i just wish everyone was muslim... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen

I don't think so, but it is forbidden to Pray for any Kuffar who has died in a state of Kufr...

as Kaffirs who died as a Kaffir will never be Forgiven as is stated in the Quran...


:jkk:

[RaNdOm]

:wswrwb:

its all a bit confusin cos like it gets me proper sad when they die and im thinkn about what they must be goin through from the very moment their souls are bein ripped out hmmmm but then i get worried that maybe thats me doubtin the wisdom of Allah swt or sumt, and He is the Most Just so He knows...

like..

“And Nooh (Noah) called upon his Lord and said, ‘O my Lord! Verily, my son is of my family! And certainly, Your Promise is true, and You are the Most Just of the judges.’

He said: ‘O Nooh (Noah)! Surely, he is not of your family; verily, his work is unrighteous, so ask not of Me that of which you have no knowledge! I admonish you, lest you should be one of the ignorant’” [Hood 11:45-46]

so like does gettin sad about it mean that u dont believe properly or sumt? :o

[Raziel]

:wswrwb:

its all a bit confusin cos like it gets me proper sad when they die and im thinkn about what they must be goin through from the very moment their souls are bein ripped out hmmmm but then i get worried that maybe thats me doubtin the wisdom of Allah swt or sumt, and He is the Most Just so He knows...

like..

“And Nooh (Noah) called upon his Lord and said, ‘O my Lord! Verily, my son is of my family! And certainly, Your Promise is true, and You are the Most Just of the judges.’

He said: ‘O Nooh (Noah)! Surely, he is not of your family; verily, his work is unrighteous, so ask not of Me that of which you have no knowledge! I admonish you, lest you should be one of the ignorant’” [Hood 11:45-46]

so like does gettin sad about it mean that u dont believe properly or sumt?
:o

No it doesn't...

but we shouldn't be when we know that whatever Punishment Allah decrees for them, it will always be fitting and Just!


this was when He was Alive, He did not pray for his forgiveness after he was dead...

also We shouldn't feel sorry for those who died in a state of Kufr/Kaafirs...

they had a Lifetime to repent to Allah Subhana Uta'ala they did not, so it is only fitting that Allah Subhana Does not forgive them...

as Allah says...

Al-Quran, Chapter 45 : Verse 21
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"What! Do those who seek after evil ways think that We shall hold them equal with those who believe and do righteous deeds,- that equal will be their life and their death? Ill is the judgment that they make."

and...

Al-Quran, Chapter 7 : Verse 147
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"Those who reject Our signs and the meeting in the Hereafter,- vain are their deeds: Can they expect to be rewarded except as they have wrought?"

and in...

Al-Quran, Chapter 68
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Verse 35 : "Shall We then treat the People of Faith like the People of Sin?"
Verse 36 : "What is the matter with you? How judge ye?"

:jkk:

[ADZ w3]

:salams

its sadenning when you think about BUT did not the prophet worry n become sad at the ste of people when he was giving dowah...But look what was said to him...n plsu i thinks it a Point which shud mke us all that more
GREATFULL that wer MUSLIM!.:)

[Abu Nuh AMW]

:salams

its sadenning when you think about BUT did not the prophet worry n become sad at the ste of people when he was giving dowah...But look what was said to him...n plsu i thinks it a Point which shud mke us all that more
GREATFULL that wer MUSLIM!.:)

Yea I think thats a major point, we should be more grateful that we are muslim and won't insha'Allah be subjected to the same punishments as them.

The example you used of Prophet Nuh (:D) alaihi'asalaam was regarding his family member again, his son, so its natural to feel emotions for your family members.

[RaNdOm]

:salams

ok i think i get it now.... so does that mean we should be like the people that die in a state of disbelief got everything that they deserved, and they were never gonna be of the guided, so like hate the fact that they dint believe?

“And Ibraaheem’s (Abraham) invoking (of Allaah) for his father’s forgiveness was only because of a promise he had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him that he (his father) is an enemy of Allaah, he dissociated himself from him. Verily, Ibraaheem was Awwah (one who invokes Allaah with humility, glorifies Him and remembers Him much) and was forbearing” [al-Tawbah 9:114]

so they've had their warnin...


‘… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ [al-Isra 17:15].”

and Allah knows best

“Verily, you (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allaah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided[al-Qasas 28:56]

right [I]:D?

[Raziel]

:salams

its sadenning when you think about BUT did not the prophet worry n become sad at the ste of people when he was giving dowah...But look what was said to him...n plsu i thinks it a Point which shud mke us all that more
GREATFULL that wer MUSLIM!.:)

certainly they did... they were Trully exceptional Muslims... :D

Ditto! :up:

:jkk:

[Raziel]

:salams

ok i think i get it now.... so does that mean we should be like the people that die in a state of disbelief got everything that they deserved, and they were never gonna be of the guided, so like hate the fact that they dint believe?

“And Ibraaheem’s (Abraham) invoking (of Allaah) for his father’s forgiveness was only because of a promise he had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him that he (his father) is an enemy of Allaah, he dissociated himself from him. Verily, Ibraaheem was Awwah (one who invokes Allaah with humility, glorifies Him and remembers Him much) and was forbearing” [al-Tawbah 9:114]

so they've had their warnin...


‘… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ [al-Isra 17:15].”

and Allah knows best

“Verily, you (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allaah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided[al-Qasas 28:56]

right [I]:D?

correct, they had innumerable signs and warnings given to them, so it is their fault for not heeding them...

the Mu'mineen will hate all Evil ... and Disbelief/Kufr is Major act of Evil which leads to others...

:jkk:

[uhkt_al'muminun]

:salams

ok i think i get it now.... so does that mean we should be like the people that die in a state of disbelief got everything that they deserved, and they were never gonna be of the guided, so like hate the fact that they dint believe?

:salams

na'am ukhty you got the gist :rolleyes: (insh'Allah)

to say they got what they deserve may sound harsh but is true as one of Allah Azwajal attributes are that he is the MOST JUST.

Also all sons of Adam had signed a covinent with Allah Azwajal in our Fitrah that we will submit to him (Allah Azwajal) alone and not associate partners with him (commit Shirk)

[ADZ w3]

Also all sons of Adam had signed a covinent with Allah Azwajal in our Fitrah that we will submit to him (Allah Azwajal) alone and not associate partners with him (commit Shirk)

:salams

MASHALLAH ..."on point" :rolleyes: :up:

w.salam

[As-Sajdah]

:salams

“Verily, those who disbelieve and did wrong; Allaah will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way — Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever; and this is ever easy for Allaah” [al-Nisaa’ 4:168-169].

is it wrong to get sad when a non muslim dies? :( cos even though they've probably been shown signs from Allah swt and we can't pray that they're forgiven... is it still wrong to get sad? cos it's like that was it... now they can't ever go back... and what they're to face has all started takin place, and only if they had believed then we could all go to paradise inshaAllah...:( i just wish everyone was muslim... may Allah guide the whole of mankind Ameen

I think Masha'Allah this shows your faith in the Hellfire etc rather than luvin up non-Muslims, coz the Prophet PBUH strived to bring anyone and everyone to Islam even if they had wronged him & the Muslims greatly in the passed (eg.Quraish) , I think coz you know and believe in the Hellfire as a Muslim, you know the pain and torment of it and you feel sad when you imagine a person X is doomed to that for eternity, its a scary thought especially when you think due to our actions we could find ourselves in there for a certain period of time :rubeyes: May Allah save us from it - Aameen.

But to question whether they deserved it, or feeling 'sorry' for them, theres no Islamic base for this as Allah is the Just & All-Knowing, and every soul will get, exactly what it deserves nothing more, nothing less even by an atoms weight.

[Raziel]

I think Masha'Allah this shows your faith in the Hellfire etc rather than luvin up non-Muslims, coz the Prophet PBUH strived to bring anyone and everyone to Islam even if they had wronged him & the Muslims greatly in the passed (eg.Quraish) , I think coz you know and believe in the Hellfire as a Muslim, you know the pain and torment of it and you feel sad when you imagine a person X is doomed to that for eternity, its a scary thought especially when you think due to our actions we could find ourselves in there for a certain period of time :rubeyes: May Allah save us from it - Aameen.

But to question whether they deserved it, or feeling 'sorry' for them, theres no Islamic base for this as Allah is the Just & All-Knowing, and every soul will get, exactly what it deserves nothing more, nothing less even by an atoms weight.

this does not make sense, ALlah says he will NOT forgive those who die as Kuffar...

so obviously they deserve it...

secondly you just negated the first statement by stating that they will get exactly what they deserve...

and the Kuffar (those among them who die in a state of Kufr) will end up in Jahannam! getting exactly what they deserved...

:jkk:

[RaNdOm]

this does not make sense, ALlah says he will NOT forgive those who die as Kuffar...

so obviously they deserve it...

secondly you just negated the first statement by stating that they will get exactly what they deserve...

and the Kuffar (those among them who die in a state of Kufr) will end up in Jahannam! getting exactly what they deserved...

:jkk:

:salams

Ameen :jkk: As Sajdah :D:D

and raziel i think ur agreein with him and sayin u shudnt question about whether he deserved it or not... re-read :rolleyes: grrrrrr

[Raziel]

:salams

Ameen :jkk: As Sajdah :D:D

and raziel i think ur agreein with him and sayin u shudnt question about whether he deserved it or not... re-read :rolleyes: grrrrrr

I agree that whatever Allah Subhana Uta'ala decrees is Just!

so the Kuffar who die in a state of Disbelief will not be forgiven, as mentioned in the Quran....

therefore whatever fate they get Jahannam, or Jannah, they Deserved it.... the Question of questioning their fate is therefore absurd...

:jkk: sis...

[As-Sajdah]

this does not make sense, ALlah says he will NOT forgive those who die as Kuffar...

so obviously they deserve it...

secondly you just negated the first statement by stating that they will get exactly what they deserve...

and the Kuffar (those among them who die in a state of Kufr) will end up in Jahannam! getting exactly what they deserved...

:jkk:

I agree that whatever Allah Subhana Uta'ala decrees is Just!

so the Kuffar who die in a state of Disbelief will not be forgiven, as mentioned in the Quran....

therefore whatever fate they get Jahannam, or Jannah, they Deserved it.... the Question of questioning their fate is therefore absurd...

:jkk: sis...

:scratch:

Tht's exactly what I said akhi, either I wrote it wrong or you read it wrong...either way just to clarify, what i'm saying is when a disbeliever is put into hell, it is becoz he truly 100% deserved it, and this is Allah's decision and we cannot question it or feel sad about it, coz Allah is most Just.

:salams

Ameen :jkk: As Sajdah :D:D

and raziel i think ur agreein with him and sayin u shudnt question about whether he deserved it or not... re-read :rolleyes: grrrrrr

BarakAllahu feeki, no probz lol