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belal1
27-04-07, 04:58 PM
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Broadband_to_go_free_in_2_yrs/articleshow/1955351.cms

NEW DELHI: The government proposes to offer all citizens of India free, high-speed broadband connectivity by 2009, through the state-owned telecom service providers BSNL and MTNL. While consumers would cheer, the move holds the potential to kill the telecom business as we know it.

You have heard of free municipal broadband — many cities in the US have drenched themselves in wireless broadband connectivity which is freely accessible to residents. The idea is to boost economic activity in general. The government of India plans to achieve free broadband connectivity at a speed of 2 MB per second across the country, with a similar goal. Senior government officials expect to be able to achieve this goal spending only a portion of the corpus of the Universal Service Obligation Fund (USOF).

All telecom operators contribute 5% of their revenues every year to USOF. It is estimated that the unutilised sum from the USOF has touched Rs 9,194.12 crore by March, 2007-end.

The current technological trend is for voice calls also to shift to the internet, using voice over internet protocol (VOIP). The quality of VOIP calls, patchy to start off with, has been improving steadily over the years and by 2009, is likely to be as good as current analogue calls that establish a circuit between the calling and called parties. When that happens, revenue streams from calls would dry up and telecom companies would need to develop value-added applications to make money from the connectivity they provide for free or virtually free.

The department of telecom (DoT) will be taking a series of steps to make its plans for free broadband a reality. These include, using the USOF to set an extensive optic cable network across the country, opening up the long-distance sectors to further competition, allowing free and fair access to cable landing stations, permitting the resale of bandwidth, setting up web hosting facilities within the country and asking all internet service providers to connect to the National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI).

With international bandwidth rates in India being between two-to-five times higher than the global standards, the DoT will also go all out to break the monopoly of existing national and international distance players in a bid to induce cut throat competition in this sector. “India has only a handful of NLD/ILD operators while small countries such as Singapore and Taiwan have over 30 and 60 long distance operators respectively.

With limited players, they control the bandwidth gateways and form a cartel and this ensures that tariffs remain high. The entry of new players such as AT&T, British Telecom amongst others has started creating an impact,” the government source added.

Importantly, the ground work for this project is already being laid. This comes as telecom regulator Trai had recently proposed that access to submarine cables be made cost-based and independent companies be given free and fair access to cable landing stations. (Cable landing stations connect submarine telecom cables with data and voice networks in the country.) Additionally, Trai had also recommended that bandwidth resale be permitted in India. Industry analysts estimate that these two steps by Trai alone will lead to a 30% reduction in bandwidth costs, when implemented.

In a related move, the DoT will also issue norms which mandate Indian companies, including state-owned BSNL and MTNL to begin large scale web hosting services. “This is because, most of the internet traffic generated in India is currently routed out of the country and re-routed back, resulting in the increased use of international bandwidth,” the government source said.

Additionally, the plan also includes asking all internet service providers to connect their networks to NIXI. This will also ensure that internet traffic, originating and destined for India, is routed within India resulting in optimum domestic bandwidth utilisation. Currently, the very purpose of establishment of NIXI has not been served as only 27 ISPs out of 135 operational ISPs have joined it, the source explained.

alld
27-04-07, 05:04 PM
same thing gone to happen in s.arabia . there are some roads / streets where wireless connectivity is available .

belal1
27-04-07, 05:07 PM
same thing gone to happen in s.arabia . there are some roads / streets where wireless connectivity is available .

that's some hot stuff.... i wish they had something like that in NYC :(

alld
27-04-07, 05:11 PM
that's some hot stuff.... i wish they had something like that in NYC :(

to be precise there are places in riyadh and jeddah where free wireless internet connectivity is available throuhg wi fi or some thing dunno . they plan to take other areas step by step .

and as you know probably india is emerging economics supwerpower replacing gaints as america and europe .

.: Rashid :.
27-04-07, 05:44 PM
That sounds really cool...

...kinda makes me feel...hmm...

How much do they expect it to cost? And I don't get the logic in providing broadband for absolutely free...I assume its gonna cost quite a lot, and the increase in economic activity can't be that much...?

What would be the shari'ah position?

Imagine we have a spanky new khilafah...how would we go about having a modern state?

As I understand it, in Islam, "essential" industries are govt. owned/controlled but what does that include? Whats an essential industry?

Also, essentials of life should be provided for free by the khilafah to those who are unable to attain it themselves, this includes food, shelter and clothing. Could energy extend to this? What about clean running water? What about internet connectivity?

I think maybe I need a new thread :p

I think akhi Salman would be able to answer my questions. Where is he? :D

-Rashid

Joha
27-04-07, 06:12 PM
As I understand it, in Islam, "essential" industries are govt. owned/controlled but what does that include? Whats an essential industry?

Really? Why? Why is the model we use here (where most industries are privatised) not Islamic? Lol, or maybe you're joking about the shariah position on free broadband :p

.: Rashid :.
27-04-07, 06:45 PM
Really? Why? Why is the model we use here (where most industries are privatised) not Islamic? Lol, or maybe you're joking about the shariah position on free broadband :p

Its the shari'ah position...I'm no alim so I dunno the daleel.

And privatisation has proven itself to be crap in many areas...take the privatisation of public transport and national water for example ;)

And no I'm being serious...I wanna know the shari'ah position on the things I mentioned in my post :(

-Rashid

belal1
28-04-07, 05:51 PM
That sounds really cool...

...kinda makes me feel...hmm...

How much do they expect it to cost? And I don't get the logic in providing broadband for absolutely free...I assume its gonna cost quite a lot, and the increase in economic activity can't be that much...?



increase in economic activity will be immense. The internet is a pot of gold in my opinion. it affects everything, including radio, t.v, telephone and cable. Imagine how many industries will be affected: cable/fiber industries, steel industries, copper industries, semiconductors, companies that provide routers, switches, hubs, ALL computer distributors (because it'll raise the demand for cheap PCs), and tons more....

besides that, with the aid of free and fast net access, ecommerce within india will take off much faster than before. that will in turn affect the credit card companies who will churn out more credit for people to spend.... and ofcourse businesses can now rely on internet to conduct better business.

remember, india is a gold mine for computer technicians, they can help themselves so all tech support remains IN the country.

if you factor just these examples (theres way more), then no matter how much the cost may be, it'll be a great investment with monstrous payback.

.: Rashid :.
28-04-07, 07:10 PM
increase in economic activity will be immense. The internet is a pot of gold in my opinion. it affects everything, including radio, t.v, telephone and cable. Imagine how many industries will be affected: cable/fiber industries, steel industries, copper industries, semiconductors, companies that provide routers, switches, hubs, ALL computer distributors (because it'll raise the demand for cheap PCs), and tons more....

besides that, with the aid of free and fast net access, ecommerce within india will take off much faster than before. that will in turn affect the credit card companies who will churn out more credit for people to spend.... and ofcourse businesses can now rely on internet to conduct better business.

remember, india is a gold mine for computer technicians, they can help themselves so all tech support remains IN the country.

if you factor just these examples (theres way more), then no matter how much the cost may be, it'll be a great investment with monstrous payback.

Hmm...sounds pretty convincing :)

If we follow this example for the khilafah (obviously without the credit card and ahem *other* industry india that'll start booming) insha'Allah should also give same benefits :up:

-Rashid

Phoenix CG
28-04-07, 07:15 PM
England is a third world nation now :o :rotfl:

Irfan GBH
28-04-07, 09:19 PM
It'll never happen. Indian government promises alot of things, it's just to win more votes. After the elections everything will be back to normal.

belal1
29-04-07, 04:42 PM
It'll never happen. Indian government promises alot of things, it's just to win more votes. After the elections everything will be back to normal.

that's what ALOT of people at slashdot was saying. mind you, they were indians living in india.....

alld
29-04-07, 04:52 PM
It'll never happen. Indian government promises alot of things, it's just to win more votes. After the elections everything will be back to normal.

it is all a feeling of past now . elections in india are fought now on development plank alone . Indian telecom , software industry is booming . infact indian telecom co's and petrochem co's have major contracts in gulf , africa and s.america. I am quite hopeful that free bandwidth connectivity is a reality .
the sistuation has turned around for indian technocrats who no longer wish to take up job abroad as they are very well paid handsome amount working at home . i think india is one country worth watching for its rapid stride in economics.

nopah
30-04-07, 02:21 AM
And no I'm being serious...I wanna know the shari'ah position on the things I mentioned in my post :(


any un-Islamic & anti govt, especially those who are against the sauds. sites would be banned.:D

Sulaiman Harun
30-04-07, 02:29 AM
same thing gone to happen in s.arabia . there are some roads / streets where wireless connectivity is available .
same in AUH, but those are networks of other people. Signals coming from there houses.

.: Rashid :.
30-04-07, 06:41 PM
any un-Islamic & anti govt, especially those who are against the sauds. sites would be banned.:D

Haha...although actually, thats another important issue. Should there be filtering of the internet in the khilafah? OK, pornographic material and other fitnah...but what about political censorship etc?

Hmm.....

-Rashid