:scratch: Women on the big screen...

[jus'me]

Salaam to all..

Just wanted to know what the opinion and ruling is about women in hijab on television...

Open to all

Jzk..:)

[Niqaabi]

Fitnah

[urban_rose]

Salaam to all..

Just wanted to know what the opinion and ruling is about women in hijab on television...

Open to all

Jzk..:)

the same reason/rules of why the sisters do not post pics on the forum :)

[jus'me]

Fitnah

sis could you elaborate a little? :)

[jus'me]

the same reason/rules of why the sisters do not post pics on the forum :)

i agree...but often to remove the idea of women in islam being 'oppressed'..they often feel the need to show that they are not...

[.: Anna :.]

if they are adequately covered and there is a purpose for it... fine

[RAJMIN]

theirs lady presentors on islam channel n all sorts these days.

[Medievalist]

tv? :asta:

women n tv double :asta:

[RAJMIN]

thers nthing wrong with tv, as long as what ur watchin is halal.

[ammarcool]

thers nthing wrong with tv, as long as what ur watchin is halal.

:scratch:

Is there HALAAL/HARAAM in TV too?

[Medievalist]

thers nthing wrong with tv, as long as what ur watchin is halal.

we should rather say that there is a difference of opinion :up:

[RAJMIN]

we should rather say that there is a difference of opinion :up:

fair enough :)

[ammarcool]

we should rather say that there is a difference of opinion :up:

negative side >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive side

[me.sawda]

Innamal a'amalu binniyat.
Aren't we accountable according to our intention?
If a women in tv performing with modesty and in good program how that would be counted fitnah?

[ammarcool]

Innamal a'amalu binniyat.
Aren't we accountable according to our intention?
If a women in tv performing with modesty and in good program how that would be counted fitnah?

what about any male hearing the voice of non-mahram female & vice versa? EVENTHOUGH is she reads news or anything..

I am afraid of Fighting/Arguing because I am a <see my avatar>! :D

[Medievalist]

Innamal a'amalu binniyat.
Aren't we accountable according to our intention?
If a women in tv performing with modesty and in good program how that would be counted fitnah?


Intention and action both have to be straight - you cant have bent action and clean intention and think its ok - nor can you have bent intention and clean action. Both are essential to be straight and pure for something to be accepted in religious law.

[Medievalist]

what about any male hearing the voice of non-mahram female & vice versa? EVENTHOUGH is she reads news or anything..

I am afraid of Fighting/Arguing because I am a <see my avatar>! :D

If you have been taught the opinion that the womans voice is awrah then it is valid and you would not support women on tv in any shape or form. mashaALLAH

[ammarcool]

If you have been taught the opinion that the womans voice is awrah then it is valid and you would not support women on tv in any shape or form. mashaALLAH

:up:

FOR EX:

SIMPLY i can say like this: waste/unclean water runs through a pipe line..suddenly through that same pipe line pure, nutritioned MILK comes!

ARE WE going to use that MILK?

[.: Anna :.]

If you have been taught the opinion that the womans voice is awrah then it is valid and you would not support women on tv in any shape or form. mashaALLAH

Brother is it stronger opinion to say that the voice itself is not awra but she should not talk in a "soft" way rather speak in a businesslike kind of way, for needing to say things of necessity (ie not chatting) to men?
As I originally thought voice is awra then I was taught this ^ because if we classify women's voice as awra we could not speak in prescence of non mahram men at all because we can not expose awra? or is that the view which u take?

[ammarcool]

The Female Voice

The female voice, according to Islam, is also included in the category of satar, i.e. it has to be concealed and not revealed. Since the female voice is satar it is not permissible for males to listen to women singing or even reciting the Holy Qur’aan. Allah, the Creator, is well aware of the lure for men which exists in the female voice, hence women in Islam are not permitted to raise their voices when speaking; neither are they permitted to recite aloud during salaah. When necessity demands that they have to speak to males then their speech should not be attractive, gentle and alluring like the deliberate ‘lure’ put in speech by the ‘trained’ women of the kuffar. Recognising the danger of allurement in the female voice, the Holy Qur’aan commands women thus:

"And do not speak in alluring tones so that he in whose heart there is disease (of lust) desires."
(Qur’aan 33:32)

The indulgence in soft alluring speech by women is a cause of raising amorous hopes in the listener, as speech of women is an important source of sexual excitation. Van de Velde in his book ‘Ideal Marriage’, states,
"The tone-colour of a voice, and the intonation of a single word – and it may be a word of no special meaning or association in itself – may excite incredible intensity of desire. The unique and precious significance that a woman’s voice can give to ‘you’ or ‘thou’ can suffice to overwhelm man’s power of endurance and control…"

Islam has, hence, forbidden its women to speak in a soft or ‘sexually’ sweet tone. If anyone is aware of the springs of sex-psychology he will clearly see the justification for Islam’s restriction in this matter.

Islam commands the concealment of the female voice and prohibits its display in public, but television demands the contrary. Great use is made of the female voice on TV to advertise, to allure, to excite lust, and female singing with the accompaniment of music is most popular. Mufti Muhammad Shafi sahib says:

"It is categorically Haraam – and it is Haraam without any difference of opinion – to listen on a gramophone to such a voice, the listening to which is Haraam in the real state. For example – singing of women even without music, and singing of men with music."

Television portrays voices, many of which are unlawful according to Islam, e.g., the female voice, the male voice singing with music. And this portrayal of unlawful voices and sounds is done in no small measure. The importance of television programmes, like the importance of all mass media of the kuffar hinges on the maximum exhibition of the female body and the female voice which have been subverted by the bestial culture of the unbelievers, to pamper the inordinate sexual desires of men who have no belief of Allah in them – of men who have no fear of Allah left in them.

The Evils of Television (http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/tv.htm)
By
A Student of Darul Uloom
Holcombe, Bury, U.K

[ammarcool]

Is watching TV permitted in Islaam ? If so under what coditions ? (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=3633&ln=eng&txt=TV)

Women watching men on TV with no desire (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=5395&ln=eng&txt=TV)

Her husband wants her to sit in front of the TV with him (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=38724&ln=eng&txt=TV)

[Medievalist]

Brother is it stronger opinion to say that the voice itself is not awra but she should not talk in a "soft" way rather speak in a businesslike kind of way, for needing to say things of necessity (ie not chatting) to men?
As I originally thought voice is awra then I was taught this ^ because if we classify women's voice as awra we could not speak in prescence of non mahram men at all because we can not expose awra? or is that the view which u take?

By us we mention that by some it is awrah and by others it is not. But in either case she is not to speak alluringly and in either case for necessity she can speak.

Our stance is that taqwa demands that she refrain from speaking infront of men at all and when she does talk she is to-the-point. When I go out with my housepeople - no1 hears her speak. Only in the comfort of the home does she say something - outside it doesnt happen.

[ur_yusra]

Women shouldn't go on T.V same way men shouldn't be watching it.

So if a brother sees a hijabi woman on T.V and spends ten years complaining about it afterwards (a certain programme comes to mind) then they should look in the mirror and slap themselves silly for switching on the T.V in the first place.

[Medievalist]

Women shouldn't go on T.V same way men shouldn't be watching it.

So if a brother sees a hijabi woman on T.V and spends ten years complaining about it afterwards (a certain programme comes to mind) then they should look in the mirror and slap themselves silly for switching on the T.V in the first place.

we are not shi'tes that we slap ourselves :asta:

[miss-ali]

hmmmmm

[ur_yusra]

we are not shi'tes that we slap ourselves :asta:

I never said do it on the 10th of Muharram :smack:

[Medievalist]

I never said do it on the 10th of Muharram :smack:

doesnt matter - they do it generally in the year aswell :rolleyes:

[ur_yusra]

doesnt matter - they do it generally in the year aswell

Charming :rolleyes:

[junaidb]

tv is haraam......

guys seeing ghair mahrams n gals seeing guys.....how can there be any good wen the bad outweighs the good??????????

is this some way of the modern muslims trying to make sumthing haraam halaal?????????

its a big no no!!!!

Alhamdulillah all praise to my beloved parents who brought us up with the shaytaan box and even extended families dont have this....
even in my family, my wife and kids have never had tv in the house....

Allah save us all from the fitnah of the television and the filth that it promotes....

:coolbro: :coolbro: :coolbro:

[umm_yusuf]

Jazzakallahu Khair from all the respondants. Even though the question was a general one (women on TV) the responses have opened up a floodgate of avenues regarding the topic of which we can all gain benefit Insha Allah.

May Allah reward you all for your efforts and please keep the answers flooding in as I am learning a lot Insha Allah.

[jus'me]

we are not shi'tes that we slap ourselves :asta:


Just wanted to say that i actually have a shi'a freind and having once asked her y they actually did this..she replied that it was haraam and that it was not permissible. Its a misconception..some shi'te do this but its not permissible according to shi'te ruling...:) ...but when i asked y they thought the way they did about Khalifa's ie..y Hadhrat Abu Bakr being first and not Hadhrat Ali..she couldnt answer....interesting!:scratch:

[Medievalist]

Just wanted to say that i actually have a shi'a freind and having once asked her y they actually did this..she replied that it was haraam and that it was not permissible. Its a misconception..some shi'te do this but its not permissible according to shi'te ruling...:) ...but when i asked y they thought the way they did about Khalifa's ie..y Hadhrat Abu Bakr being first and not Hadhrat Ali..she couldnt answer....interesting!:scratch:

actually according to twelver shi;'tes its highly recommended. :rolleyes: