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Al-Irhaab
17-04-07, 10:56 PM
I came across this was very interesting tell me what you think...the only thing i cant make out which i have doubt off is whether this is ibn abbas (ra) saying it or hes narrating from the prophet (Saw)... allah (SwT) knows best...

Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, which reads as follows:“ I try to look best to my wife, as I like her to look best to me. I also do not like to demand all my rights onto her, as I, as Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , am afraid she would also demand her full right onto me [in such a case I wouldn't be able to fulfill it for her]. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states in Quran Sura al-Baqarah (2:228): And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree [of advantage] over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise”.

Chained_Water
17-04-07, 11:00 PM
I came across this was very interesting tell me what you think...the only thing i cant make out which i have doubt off is whether this is ibn abbas (ra) saying it or hes narrating from the prophet (Saw)... allah (SwT) knows best...

Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, which reads as follows:“ I try to look best to my wife, as I like her to look best to me. I also do not like to demand all my rights onto her, as I, as Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , am afraid she would also demand her full right onto me [in such a case I wouldn't be able to fulfill it for her]. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states in Quran Sura al-Baqarah (2:228): And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree [of advantage] over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise”.

does the degree over them refer to the husbands right to obedience?

anyway it is sensible.. husbands especially as they have the right of obedience should not ask too much and make that duty of obeying him hard on his wife.. if you ask for little and fuss over little, it will be much easier and nicer for her to listen to you, she will be happy to do so.. if you ask always for things that against her wishes, you will become a major major test for her.. a wise husband would avoid that.

Al-Irhaab
17-04-07, 11:09 PM
does the degree over them refer to the husbands right to obedience?

anyway it is sensible.. husbands especially as they have the right of obedience should not ask too much and make that duty of obeying him hard on his wife.. if you ask for little and fuss over little, it will be much easier and nicer for her to listen to you, she will be happy to do so.. if you ask always for things that against her wishes, you will become a major major test for her.. a wise husband would avoid that.

yup degree over them is based upon obedience and the fact that they provide security for them etc....

is the above not true vice versa?

Chained_Water
17-04-07, 11:12 PM
yup degree over them is based upon obedience and the fact that they provide security for them etc....

is the above not true vice versa?
to an extent, but not as much because husband can refuse, wife can't.. if wife wants such and such, he can say, listen i've considered it, but i'm afraid the answers no.. if husband wants wife to do x or not do y, she has to obey.. so if he always keeps choosing his own view over hers and doing it his way rather than hers that will cause her a major strain and lead to problems and unhappiness.. let your wife do things her own way if there is no harm or haraam in it innit.. husbands should not try and control every move she makes.

Al-Irhaab
17-04-07, 11:15 PM
to an extent, but not as much because husband can refuse, wife can't.. if wife wants such and such, he can say, listen i've considered it, but i'm afraid the answers no.. if husband wants wife to do x or not do y, she has to obey.. so if he always keeps choosing his own view over hers and doing it his way rather than hers that will cause her a major strain and lead to problems and unhappiness.. let your wife do things her own way if there is no harm or haraam in it innit.. husbands should not try and control every move she makes.

i was talking about the rights not about obedience :smack:

Chained_Water
17-04-07, 11:17 PM
i was talking about the rights not about obedience :smack:

what do you mean? like wife not demanding all her rights? and husband not demanding all his?

umm_yusuf
18-04-07, 05:18 AM
I'm sure the saying is a saying of Ibn 'Abbas (Radiyallahu anhu) rather than that of the Rassul (:saw:).

I remember reading that it was attributed to him but then I could be wrong. If I am then someone please clarify.

Jazzakamullahu Khair

wa salaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullah.

Al-Irhaab
18-04-07, 09:55 AM
what do you mean? like wife not demanding all her rights? and husband not demanding all his?

yes

JiHaDiYa
19-04-07, 07:13 PM
Jazak'allahkhair akhi :)

Abu Mus'ab
30-08-07, 06:01 PM
I came across this was very interesting tell me what you think...the only thing i cant make out which i have doubt off is whether this is ibn abbas (ra) saying it or hes narrating from the prophet (Saw)... allah (SwT) knows best...

Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, which reads as follows:“ I try to look best to my wife, as I like her to look best to me. I also do not like to demand all my rights onto her, as I, as Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , am afraid she would also demand her full right onto me [in such a case I wouldn't be able to fulfill it for her]. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states in Quran Sura al-Baqarah (2:228): And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree [of advantage] over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise”.
erm well as far as i can see from your post it seems like it's a saying of hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Abbas radhiallahu anhu.

Al-Irhaab
31-08-07, 01:02 AM
erm well as far as i can see from your post it seems like it's a saying of hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Abbas radhiallahu anhu.

read the middle part of the post ill highlight it for u .... ur getting slow *smack*


Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, which reads as follows:“ I try to look best to my wife, as I like her to look best to me. I also do not like to demand all my rights onto her, as I, as Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , am afraid she would also demand her full right onto me [in such a case I wouldn't be able to fulfill it for her]. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states in Quran Sura al-Baqarah (2:228): And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree [of advantage] over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise”.

afsalim
01-09-07, 08:43 AM
Allah SWT knows best.