The Beard

[Eemaan]

Would you marry a non beardo?

(this is a poll for females only, so ibn suls and fais please refrain from voting) :D

No threads on this at all in this part of the world :eek: and its such an important factor

Really, one of the resons im wanting to post this thread is because i know lots of little adolescent muslim lads who are :crying2: about keeping beards and they need to know that a large proportion of the muslimah population (i hope) would not consider marrying someone who did not carry the sunnah of the prophet on the most importnat part of their physcal appearnace- the face.

Peace :coolbro:

[Na'eemah]

:coolbro: :up: inshaAllah.

[urban_rose]

:coolbro: :up: inshaAllah.

same here, inshAllah :) or if not, they could always grow one after, right?

[sunrise]

i doubt it verryy much, unless he just reverted or something

[Na'eemah]

same here, inshAllah :) or if not, they could always grow one after, right?

Yeah, hide his razors :up: AND threaten to wax his back :evilb:

[urban_rose]

Yeah, hide his razors :up:

:hidban:

[Kal-El]

What about those women who grow beards?

[Eemaan]

faislu you plonk :smack:

ruining my super duper poll :(

What about those women who grow beards?


well kal you can vote and say you dont wanna marry a beardo i guess :D

[urban_rose]

(this is a poll for females only, so ibn suls and fais please refrain from voting) :D



ahem ahem, Kal-el and Faisy :torture:

[sunrise]

Would you marry a non beardo?

(this is a poll for females only, so ibn suls and fais please refrain from voting) :D

No threads on this at all in this part of the world :eek: and its such an important factor

Really, one of the resons im wanting to post this thread is because i know lots of little adolescent muslim lads who are :crying2: about keeping beards and they need to know that a large proportion of the muslimah population (i hope) would not consider marrying someone who did not carry the sunnah of the prophet on the most importnat part of their physcal appearnace- the face.

Peace :coolbro:


lool

[Eemaan]

ahem ahem, Kal-el and Faisy :torture:

im worried

fairy wants a bearded wife :crying2:

ai hai

[nami]

If I voted "no" I will not marry a man without a beard or "yes" i would marry a man without a beard, then I think something is wrong...

A bit too gay for me. My homophobia is starting to kick in.

[Kal-El]

If i had known this woman would have rejected me based solely that i didnt have a beard, then I would have retracted my proposal and looked for someone better.

:coolbro: No shallow women allowed in this castle

[Fais]

faislu you plonk :smack:

ruining my super duper poll :(


:confused: .. What if i want a bearded wife ...

ahem ahem, Kal-el and Faisy :torture:

What .. :eek3: ... :outta: ..

im worried

fairy wants a bearded wife :crying2:

ai hai

So :o .. Whats wrong with that .. ibn khatab wants one with a beard too :p

[journey2jannah]

beard is a MUST...to me men without beard resemble women!

Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: "He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement)."

Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "I have no connection with one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication."
- Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

[Ibn Khattab]

If i had known this woman would have rejected me based solely that i didnt have a beard, then I would have retracted my proposal and looked for someone better.

:coolbro: No shallow women allowed in this castle


theres a difference between not growing one naturally and shaving it off.
if you shave it off completely, then your as much of a man as your wife is.

however if u cant grow it cos of natural reasons or medical reasons its a totally different story.

[nami]

If i had known this woman would have rejected me based solely that i didnt have a beard, then I would have retracted my proposal and looked for someone better.

:coolbro: No shallow women allowed in this castle


anyone woman who said "no" to you because you are unable to grow a beard is not worth marrying bro!

[Ibn Khattab]

So :o .. Whats wrong with that .. ibn khatab wants one with a beard too :p

looooooooool :torture: :torture: look at you all dreaming mate.

you gonna be stroking your wifes beard not the other way round :outta:

[sunrise]

anyone woman who said "no" to you because you are unable to grow a beard is not worth marrying bro!


ye defo, but if he purposely shaves it off is another story

[Kal-El]

95% of threads about marriage or spouses is in the private sections of the forum :rolleyes:

[Abu Mus'ab]

ahem ahem, Kal-el and Faisy :torture:
You think they're hiding somethign? *Roll Eyes*

[Abu Mus'ab]

theres a difference between not growing one naturally and shaving it off.
if you shave it off completely, then your as much of a man as your wife is.

however if u cant grow it cos of natural reasons or medical reasons its a totally different story.
I concur.

[Hafsah]

it depends why he doesnt have a beard

if its cos hes follically challenged..then fair enough

or if he knows its fardh...and would like to grow one..fair enough

otherwise...probably not?

[ur_yusra]

Sisters be weary - a beard does not necessarily mean taqwa.

[MMS]

Sisters be weary - a beard does not necessarily mean taqwa.

very true, take the berverted beardos fer example :vomit:

they lower their gaze except when they see hijaabis :torture:

[Eemaan]

yah dont be qucik to be impressed by bro because of the length of his beard :smack:

:jkk: yusra

[bint]

get married to the guy that dont keep a beard then hell grow one after ure married :D kinda hard getting used to just an idea :D

personally im not fussed. :D

[Kubs]

What about those women who grow beards?


Oh my..! :rubeyes:

[uhkt_al'muminun]

What about those women who grow beards?


:banghead: they dont? not a propa beard anyway?

no i wouldnt marry a brother who shaves BUT if he couldnt grow 1 that a different story...just make dua that he gets 1 asap :rolleyes:

[MMS]

:banghead: they dont? not a propa beard anyway?

no i wouldnt marry a brother who shaves BUT if he couldnt grow 1 that a different story...just make dua that he gets 1 asap :rolleyes:

i actually know of a few women who had propa beards, though they would remove them but yeh they were like propa beards :rubeyes:

[uhkt_al'muminun]

i actually know of a few women who had propa beards, though they would remove them but yeh they were like propa beards :rubeyes:

:rubeyes: you mean propa propa beards as in... :coolbro:

[MMS]

:rubeyes: you mean propa propa beards as in... :coolbro:
yaa u cud see that they had propa beards but they wud either shave them or wax them or whatever but if they didnt it would be like a man beard :rubeyes:

i dont know if they were naturally just very hairy or sometimes its a side effect of medication

[uhkt_al'muminun]

yaa u cud see that they had propa beards but they wud either shave them or wax them or whatever but if they didnt it would be like a man beard :rubeyes:

i dont know if they were naturally just very hairy or sometimes its a side effect of medication


intresting... subahn'Allah

[Redmist]

yah dont be qucik to be impressed by bro because of the length of his beard :smack:

:jkk: yusra

My yardstick is the longer the beard the bigger the pervertedness.

There are guys who are pure and hav long beards but i have yet to come across them.

[Abu Mus'ab]

My yardstick is the shorter the beard the shorter the emaan.

There are guys who are pure and hav short beards but i have yet to come across them.
This doesn't refer to people who can't grow beards

[JiHaDiYa]

Mash'allah its good to go for someone who tries/strives to looks/resembles the prophet Muhammad Ibn Abduallah (saw)....when brothers try and shave the beard they just look moldy lol, and there face just looks over green and spiky :D not a good sight, not at all! But nope i wouldnt wnna marry a brother that shaves, no way!

Some naseeha to the brothers insh'allah, try n look like this brother here insh'allah :coolbro:

[Redmist]

My yardstick is the shorter the beard the shorter the emaan.

There are guys who are pure and hav short beards but i have yet to come across them.
This doesn't refer to people who can't grow beards

Ok lol good one :up:

an eye for an eye and that thing!

[aurorascopic]

no, i wouldnt want to marry a woman thank you :)

i despise especially those men who try to do the 'rough look' but instead end up looking like a 14 yr old teenager who has just hit puberty...stubble they call it? pft!

on the other hand though, i think someone has mentioned this- there is a difference between not being able to grow one and shaving. i know this because my husband to be (inshallah) his beard only started growing last year and it doesn't grow very much either :( but inshallah he'll get there-> :coolbro: might take a while but he will :D i know he will :D inshallah

[funk999]

http://islamictube.net/view_video.php?viewkey=110419396 something about the beard

[alld]

My yardstick is the shorter the beard the shorter the emaan.

There are guys who are pure and hav short beards but i have yet to come across them.
This doesn't refer to people who can't grow beards

All the muttawas (religious police ) in s.arabia have big bigger biggest beards on the scene but can the same be said about their imaan ?.

[urban_rose]

'tis true, many guys speshly the older dudes have big beards, makes them seem all holy but then their gaze is not as holy :(

[me.sawda]

What is the arabic term of Beard as for veil is to hijab what about beard?

[Abu Mus'ab]

All the muttawas (religious police ) in s.arabia have big bigger biggest beards on the scene but can the same be said about their imaan ?.
Look at this picture,

http://www.naqshbandi.org/events/karzai/karzaim_2.jpg

Is there any difference between them? no.

[aurorascopic]

What is the arabic term of Beard as for veil is to hijab what about beard?


in gujrati we call it...'the daari'

i know you asked for arabic..

[Abu Mus'ab]

What is the arabic term of Beard as for veil is to hijab what about beard?
Beard = Lihya

[me.sawda]

in gujrati we call it...'the daari'

i know you asked for arabic..

JZk..:D

[/QUOTE]Abu Mus'ab
Quote:
Originally Posted by me.sawda View Post
What is the arabic term of Beard as for veil is to hijab what about beard?
Beard = Lihya[/QUOTE]

[Redmist]

'tis true, many guys speshly the older dudes have big beards, makes them seem all holy but then their gaze is not as holy :(

Innit! Gawja daari waala!

[Eemaan]

get married to the guy that dont keep a beard then hell grow one after ure married :D kinda hard getting used to just an idea :D

personally im not fussed. :D

what abaht when Arrogorn, king of mordor converts to Islam inshallah :eek3:

[.: Anna :.]

If they didnt grow one before but then u asked them like how come u dnt have a beard etc and they realised they shud have it and then start growing it that is okay. i think a husband who refuses 2 keep it, and insists on shaving... that would be quite upsetting :S

[Na'eemah]

'tis true, many guys speshly the older dudes have big beards, makes them seem all holy but then their gaze is not as holy :(

Yea and even some of the ones that are married :wacko::eek3:

[bint]

what abaht when Arrogorn, king of mordor converts to Islam inshallah :eek3:


ameeen:D :inlove:

[Honey87]

I'd marry someone who didn't have a beard. Yes i know its sunnah, however, i find it a bit silly when some sisters judge brothers who do not have beards. I know many brothers who follow the sunnah of having beards but err, are not very nice people.

I suppose you could compare it somewhat to a sister who wears hijab.

[Abu Mus'ab]

Correction, it's waajib to have a beard.

[LiveIslam]

i dnt have have anything against brother who dnt have a beard but i prefer then to have one it just makes them look a bit humble. but i also agree with sister honey

[`asiya]

if he cant grow one then not a problem, but if he shaved his beard not a chance id consider it, men without beards look freaky anyway...like their heads are sort of unbalanced..

[Nawar]

if he cant grow one then not a problem, but if he shaved his beard not a chance id consider it, men without beards look freaky anyway...like their heads are sort of unbalanced..


Lol. I agree. :up:

[perfectpearl]

I know its not very religious, but a beard butchers the mans looks. I like MEN without beards. They look better. Sorry for all the people who like men with beards :embar:

[perfectpearl]

if he cant grow one then not a problem, but if he shaved his beard not a chance id consider it, men without beards look freaky anyway...like their heads are sort of unbalanced..

Those are the ugly men honey :D

[puella]

its highly recommended to grow a beard for the man (incase there is any confusion here!!) as it is not only the sunnah of the prophet (saw) but also of all the prophets (as). but on the other hand who is to say that the length of his beard or even the mere fact that a brother has a few facial hairs depicts the level of his emaan?...the same could be said about us sisters...maybe those who ear the viel are weaker in emaan that those who just wear a headcovering, yet the egneral assumption is that the one who is covering more is more pious, isnt it?

i married a beardo and i would not have considered otherwise merely because that is my preference alhamdulilah, but even if he wasnt a beardo then i would have still married him inshaAllah because he has a sound heart and is the best of all the men i have encountered masaAllah

[Nazias]

I think to reject someone because they did not have a beard is :wacko: the brother may have taqwa and piety and the beard does not determine that... perhaps he can not grow a beard, perhaps he didn't know the importance of the beard: Allahu Alim. :up:

[ibn suleman]

Would you marry a non beardo?

(this is a poll for females only, so ibn suls and fais please refrain from voting) :D

No threads on this at all in this part of the world :eek: and its such an important factor

Really, one of the resons im wanting to post this thread is because i know lots of little adolescent muslim lads who are :crying2: about keeping beards and they need to know that a large proportion of the muslimah population (i hope) would not consider marrying someone who did not carry the sunnah of the prophet on the most importnat part of their physcal appearnace- the face.

Peace :coolbro:

:smack:
u didnt have to mention me

and why is the poll multiple choice? :p

[Abu Nuh AMW]

before you start wondering why on earth i clicked the first option.... it was accidental!

[Chained_Water]

Of course not being able to grow one is a whole different issue.

And like yusra and others have said, beard doesn't mean the person must be an amazing Muslim and would make an ideal husband.

Personally, to me, I'd see a mans shaving his beard whilst knowing it is a sunnah, as an indication of a lack of love for the prophet(saw). And if the guy doesn't love the prophet(saw) enough, how could you love and respect him?

If he uses "image" as a reason for not growing it, then what kind of image exactly is he after? And if that the kind of image a sister would want her husband to have? And if its the case that he hasn't got the bottle to do it, then would a sister really want a husband that is (sorry to blunt about it) such a whimp. If he dislikes the sunnah? Why would you like him?

It is just a bad sign from the get go.

Ignorance of the deen is something that would take away all the above though, because the above would only apply if the brother KNEW it was part of Islam. If he didn't then fair enough. And yes of course different people are at different stages in religious development and progression, often it takes small gradual changes and steps in how you live your life. And he could be praying 5 times a day, have an amazing character and be a wonderful person in other ways but at the end of the day, it is such a basic sunnah of the prophet(saw) and why would you want the amir of your household to be someone who can't uphold such a basic thing.. all it involves afterall is NOT shaving :eek3: ..he'd need a darn good reason.

If sisters can go out clad in hijaab, jilbaab, niqaab and go about their business, living and working in this predominantly kaffir society then I don't see ANYTHING as a good enough reason for a MAN to shave his beard off (unless medical reason).

It isn't the be all and end all, you don't just go marry the first bearded guy in sight, or assume he's perfect just because he has a beard. But it is a clearly visible aspect of being Muslim, so if it isn't present that should ring alarm bells and make you ask some questions before proceeding any further.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Thats not really a good line of argument because if you goto a resturant and people sit on the table to eat whilst the sunnah is to eat on the floor.. does that now denote people don't love the prophet (saw)? or they dont have the balls to practice their deen?

[Chained_Water]

Thats not really a good line of argument because if you goto a resturant and people sit on the table to eat whilst the sunnah is to eat on the floor.. does that now denote people don't love the prophet (saw)? or they dont have the balls to practice their deen?

No that is different because the prophet(saw) actually commanded the Muslim men to trim the moutache and leave the beard.

As far as I'm aware eating on the floor is an observed sunnah, not a commanded one, I mean there are hadiths commanding growing the beard, but afaik eating on the floor was something that was noted and related about but no command was given saying we must do it. The scholars say there is no sin in eating at a table. There may be valid reasons like legs hurting from sitting on floor or something.

In restaurant I doubt theyd have the floor space anyway :p

Reminds me actually the other day shaykh Yaqoubi told us story about how he was invited to a party with many other scholars, all of them sat at the table on chairs and a younger scholar walked in and decided he would sit on floor, and this just drew attention to him and he got praise for it and was the only different one. Shaykh said that this isn't really good making yourself stand out like that in something where there is no harm in doing as everyone else, like with sitting at table he said there is no harm in that.

But the prophet(saw) was very clear on how the Muslims should appear, he(saw) used to dress differently from the pagans in Mecca and would wear trousers there and seem more like the monotheists and people of the book, but in Madina he(saw) made a clear point of differentiating the Islamic identity and went back to wearing izhars and jubbahs and told us to be different from the people of the book and the desbelievers. He(saw) gave clear instruction on how to appear, he commanded leaving the beard.

So people can say what they like and everyone has their own preference, to me, my argument is in accordance to my own personal preference, I wouldn't be too impressed by a bro shaving his beard off. Sis Eemaan was asking for sisters opinions and my opinion is above, knowingly going against a sunnah of the prophet(saw) which he commanded for the men is showing a lack of love for the prophet(saw).

The sahabah would do whatever the prophet(saw) did without caring why or if it made any sense, they would imitate it regardless because of the immense love they had for the prophet(saw). If he went around a certain spot whilst riding his camel, if they crossed that path, they would go around in that circle also. It was an indication of pure love.

Someone once told me they were asked why they keep a beard by a young girl. They responded "Why don't you?" to which the girl gave a :eek3: look and replied "I'm a girl!" The brother responded "Well I'm a man!" :coolbro:

:D

[Lambo5688]

I wouldn't marry a woman with a beard.

[Chained_Water]

I wouldn't marry a woman with a beard.
Now that's just descrimination :banbear:

[Lambo5688]

Now that's just descrimination :banbear:
Oh sorry, its just that I get scared easily by women with beards.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Whats a commanded sunnah?

[Chained_Water]

Oh sorry, its just that I get scared easily by women with beards.
Well yes it is scary, I have seen three women during my lifetime with FULL beards, oh four, I saw one on telly on that Shazia Mirza program.

But the male of the species should know that women are hairy, like all other mammals, that should be obvious from all the ads for venus/gilette razors, veet, imaac, etc whatever.. they wouldn't make any money unless women were naturally hairy. But that is a whole different thread and discussion :rubeyes:

[Chained_Water]

Whats a commanded sunnah?
Bro its not a technical term as you well know :p don't get your beard in a twist.. I explained what I meant by saying that in the post. As in there are hadiths in which the prophet(saw) commanded it explicitly to trim moustache and leave/grow beard. Afaik there are no hadiths where the prophet(saw) commanded us to only eat on the floor, it was just something he did and was observed doing, he didn't forbid doing otherwise. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I could just be ignorant of any.

[Niqaabi]

I chose the first 3 options, had no clue what the last one meant. Anyways my answers depended on:
No no no: If they guy just didnt want a beard, thats not acceptable to me. Length of beard doesnt = length of taqwa but it does help towards it. Its like a bro marrying a sis who doesnt observe hijaab it feels weird.

Yes: If his beard doesnt grow or he has some facial hair but is going through this whole presure thing. I have to understand cos its not like i woke up one day and i was in full niqaab. it took me some time too, step by step so at least if he had some hair on his face then it could be enough for me... so far.

Not sure: any other reason he has :S would have to take into consideration.

[Chained_Water]

I chose the first 3 options, had no clue what the last one meant. Anyways my answers depended on:
No no no: If they guy just didnt want a beard, thats not acceptable to me. Length of beard doesnt = length of taqwa but it does help towards it. Its like a bro marrying a sis who doesnt observe hijaab it feels weird.

Yes: If his beard doesnt grow or he has some facial hair but is going through this whole presure thing. I have to understand cos its not like i woke up one day and i was in full niqaab. it took me some time too, step by step so at least if he had some hair on his face then it could be enough for me... so far.

Not sure: any other reason he has :S would have to take into consideration.

That bit is true as well, it would depend on the rest of his character and other aspects of deen in that case. Crucially it would be a question of "has he show that he is willing to change things about himself for the better?" ..because if people have it in their character to correct themselves when they gain knowledge and support then Alhamdulillah that is a really good quality, because it shows they are the kind who want to better themselves.

In the same way there wouldn't be much point marrying a beardo who does not have this trait, because if you think you are good and don't need to improve, then that is a big mistake.

But at the same time before marriage you cannot know someones character intimately in the way you would with sisters, so you should observe their outer traits because they are an indication of whats on the inside. I don't just mean beard, I mean how they carry themselves, how they walk talk speak eat look at people and so on.. Actions can speak louder than words as the saying goes.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Bro its not a technical term as you well know :p don't get your beard in a twist.. I explained what I meant by saying that in the post. As in there are hadiths in which the prophet(saw) commanded it explicitly to trim moustache and leave/grow beard. Afaik there are no hadiths where the prophet(saw) commanded us to only eat on the floor, it was just something he did and was observed doing, he didn't forbid doing otherwise. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I could just be ignorant of any.

command contained in text which is not hukm shar'ee is known as the 'amr which comes in various forms, such as past, present, future tense. If the meaning is imperative (fi'l al-'amr) or sometimes does NOT contain the command. For example there are ayats in Quran which could be interpreted as commands or orders but they are simply do not contain commands and they are just permissable acts, such as 'marry women of your choice 2,3 or 4..'

So, if something is a sunnah than its a sunnah and following it contains equal reward or as specified whether sunnah was Qawli, Fi'li or taqreeri.

Remember Islam came to teach us how to live, it taught us how to eat and how to dispose, it has made some aspect of this teaching fardh and others sunnah. So, I find it incorrect and its technically wrong to say that Sunnah of eating on the floor is not really a sunnah, when it is an established sunnah and there are probably more ahadith about ettiquettes of eating and more narrations about how the prophet (saw) told sahabah to drink and eat than about the beard.

[Chained_Water]

I'm not saying it's not really a sunnah and didn't mean to imply that at all. Eating on the floor is just one etiquette of eating, and I don't see what the number of hadiths on it has to do with it, unless we want to start counting the hadiths about eating on the floor and the ones about growing the beard for some reason :S

I wasn't saying "Oh don't eat on the floor, thats not a proper sunnah, pfft."

You gave eating at table as comparison to shaving beard because I said it showed lack of love for the prophet. And I simply said it seems a different thing to me when the prophet(saw) clearly said leave beard, let it grow.. but didn't say similar about eating on floor.. and when the scholars have said there is no harm in eating at table, surely that is based on how they classify the erm "recommendedness" of eating on the floor? Whereas I'd like to see where they say it is ok to shave your beard? ..that isn't to take away from the sunnah of eating on the floor, just to emphasize how it's been strongly discouraged to shave beard.

I don't understand what you are getting at tho bro? :scratch:

[Niqaabi]

And yes of course different people are at different stages in religious development and progression, often it takes small gradual changes and steps in how you live your life. And he could be praying 5 times a day, have an amazing character and be a wonderful person in other ways but at the end of the day, it is such a basic sunnah of the prophet(saw) and why would you want the amir of your household to be someone who can't uphold such a basic thing.. all it involves afterall is NOT shaving :eek3: ..he'd need a darn good reason.

Sis you started off saying that everyone is in different stages and then in the end you were saying its a basic thing and he'd need a good reason which im getting an implied "its so easy why cant you do it?"

I hold the opinion that a valid beard is at least a fist length. A brother who has more than that alhumdulillah he is following the sunnah of the prophet :saw: who we should follow but that doesnt mean he is more than a brother who trims his beard to a fist length or less, appearance wise yes maybe, but only Allah knows what is truly his intentions.*
Same with the niqaab/jilbaab/hijaab. I have seen niqaabis sisters that are so arrogant they think they are better then the ones who dont wear it and refuse to take naseeha from them because "i wear a niqaab who are you to give me advice?!".
I believe these issues to be of importance but not as importance as the 5 daily prayers or tawheed as a muslim not believing/acting upon this will nulify his islam, not keeping his beard/not wearing her hijaab doesnt.
Everyone is at different levels, everyone has different eemaan levels at different times, maybe something which is basic to you and can be done easily can be such a hardship on someone else. We dont know how these people feel. We might be like ":eek3: its just facial hair/its just a piece of cloth on your head" but for some its such a huge gap they need people to support and be patient with them and most of all not pressure them because they should be doing it for Allah not so someone will marry them.
If non-bearded bro said he would keep his beard after marriage for me, id tell him to forget it, there is no reward in doing if for the sake of his wife.

Also not to be rude but a lot of people say "if he was a revert" thats understandable, but a person who was born into a muslim family might not have been always practising islam. Some people have to learn the deen themselves because they were taught wrong or taught nothing so they could be just as overwhelmed by it all just like a revert.

EDIT: * also a bro that trims his beard to a fist length is follow a sunnah of the companions so no one can say anything about that because its permissable and it is an ikhtilaaf issue which really should be left to scholars.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

I'm not saying it's not really a sunnah and didn't mean to imply that at all. Eating on the floor is just one etiquette of eating, and I don't see what the number of hadiths on it has to do with it, unless we want to start counting the hadiths about eating on the floor and the ones about growing the beard for some reason :S

I wasn't saying "Oh don't eat on the floor, thats not a proper sunnah, pfft."

You gave eating at table as comparison to shaving beard because I said it showed lack of love for the prophet. And I simply said it seems a different thing to me when the prophet(saw) clearly said leave beard, let it grow.. but didn't say similar about eating on floor.. and when the scholars have said there is no harm in eating at table, surely that is based on how they classify the erm "recommendedness" of eating on the floor? Whereas I'd like to see where they say it is ok to shave your beard? ..that isn't to take away from the sunnah of eating on the floor, just to emphasize how it's been strongly discouraged to shave beard.

I don't understand what you are getting at tho bro? :scratch:

This goes with every sunnah, ie, there is no harm in not doing it unless you are hanafi and follow the sunnah muakadah usul, which doesnt apply to both examples anyway. However, if people are saying its fardh than it would be haram to shave it and its a differnt discussion altogether.

where I am getting at is, If people are using beard as criteria to measure his love for the Prophet (saw) than surely him doing something out of ordinary, like eating no the floor with his hands in a resturant would show the length he (or her) would go to emulate the Prophet (saw). There are brothers and sisters who do that, they dont go to resturants or only goto places where they can sit on the floor and eat with their hands.. because sunnah is to show the love of Prophet (saw) by emulating him not what is convenient to follow and what is not.

growing a beard maybe too easy for some as everyone they know has one, but eating on the floor with hands may not be so easy because no one else is doing it..

[Chained_Water]

Sis Niq: OK the reason that this is getting muddly is because there is more than one issue here. There is the issue of following the sunnah.

Like I said I do understand about the progression thing and different stages, knowledge etc. Like I said he could be doing many other islamic things, but if he can't stop shaving knowing that he shouldn't then again that raises same questions as I said in first posts.

If he wants to grow beard but isn't yet, then thats his own personal journey BUT.. that is much easier to accept for a random brother in Islam, because he ain't gonna be the one who you live under and who helps you raise your kids.

When it is a potential husband the other issue of what you want in a husband comes into play. And what their particular reason for not keeping a beard is may say a lot about their strength of character. What is a good reason for not keeping it if you KNOW you should be?

Because yes it is just not shaving, so what makes you shave? Why do you shave? I would be wanting to know the answers to those questions.

It's just not a good indictation in any way.

[Songbird]

*Prefers her man to be furry* :inlove:

*licks her lips* :D

[Lambo5688]

*Prefers her man to be furry* :inlove:

*licks her lips* :D

:0: :eek:

[Chained_Water]

*Prefers her man to be furry* :inlove:

*licks her lips* :D
Careful there, you don't want to be getting no hair stuck in your mouth sis. :eek3:

[abdusamad]

I made a mistake and those who also voted "no no no no" made a mistake. There are brothers who dont have a beard because no hair grows on their face. So the poll should have been, would you marry one who shaves his beard. It is not our job to grow our beards, but its our job to NOT shave off our beards. This is a misconception amongst ALOT of muslims. They think we have to have a beard, thats wrong. Beard comes from Allaah, if Allaah gives you facial hair then alhamdulillah, if he doesnt then alhamdulillah. Your not doing wrong by not having a beard, your doing wrong by Shaving it off.



God help you if you would marry one who shaves his beard off. Remember the prophet (SAWS) turned away from the two persians without facial hair. Do you want to be married to one like that? Think before you follow your likes/dislikes. We as muslims shouldn't be led by our desires/prefferences but by our Islamic Values.

[Songbird]

Careful there, you don't want to be getting no hair stuck in your mouth sis. :eek3:
Erm, I just meant as in I find bearded bros yummy, metaphorically speaking of course :o

Don't mean beardless bros aren't good Mu'mins though. Just my personal preference is for hair and lots of it. I like 'em furry mashaAllah :D

Oh and I append a proviso that a man's beard is not necessarily an iman indicator. Met a few dodgy bearded types unfortunately. For them it's sadly just a 'pious' facade... :rolleyes:

[Lambo5688]

:outta:

[Chained_Water]

This goes with every sunnah, ie, there is no harm in not doing it unless you are hanafi and follow the sunnah muakadah usul, which doesnt apply to both examples anyway. However, if people are saying its fardh than it would be haram to shave it and its a differnt discussion altogether.

where I am getting at is, If people are using beard as criteria to measure his love for the Prophet (saw) than surely him doing something out of ordinary, like eating no the floor with his hands in a resturant would show the length he (or her) would go to emulate the Prophet (saw). There are brothers and sisters who do that, they dont go to resturants or only goto places where they can sit on the floor and eat with their hands.. because sunnah is to show the love of Prophet (saw) by emulating him not what is convenient to follow and what is not.

growing a beard maybe too easy for some as everyone they know has one, but eating on the floor with hands may not be so easy because no one else is doing it..
Sorry bro I have kept saying sunnah to mean a practice of the prophet(saw). But in Hanafi fiqh it is wajib, you can trim until fist length thats permissible, but shaving is mukrooh or prohibited and cutting less than fist length. On other madhabs it is different, I'm no expert, but I've never read anything about it being ok to clean shave the beard in any madhab. There are diff opinions on what constitutes beard, like only hair on chin etc.. but plain just shaving it off is next level.. who says that is allowed and based on what?

And on the restaurant thing yep mashaAllah on anyone who goes to that length to follow any sunnah. Any sister would be lucky to even just find a bro who makes it habit to implement new sunnah into life every week. There are so many sunnahs you could never run out of something new to start doing, from how the prophet(saw) slept to how he sat, there are so many narrations of so many things the prophet(saw) did. I wouldn't say "Oh, not dividing your night into six parts and sleeping whilst reclined on right hand during the last part.. shows lack of love for the prophet(saw)" :rubeyes: ..beard is just such a widely known one, and considered wajib in different madhabs, part of visible islamic identity, and so on that most would consider it a basic sunnah.

And there are a million other reasons to put one off non-beardos:

Not having one:
-Is effeminate
-Is not at all manly
-It very unattractive
-Takes away from visible islamic identity
-Means the girl may have a hairier face than the bloke :p
-There are other mushy reasons we need not go into.

It's just generally offputting and I'd wanna see what possible reason in the world a Muslim man could have for shaving his beard off. Because it does make one wonder if he just hasn't got the bottle.. and it that is the case it would hardly be an encouraging characteristic to present to a sister looking for a husband.

Again the overall message is NOT "hey lets measure peoples Islam by the length of their beard." that would be foolish.. I've known Muslims who had beards and quite openly even said it was because they "can't be bothered to shave." ..but shaving the beard off completely gives 101 wrong signals and reasons to :outta:

[mgilani]

I didnt realize beard was mandatory:rubeyes:

[Chained_Water]

Erm, I just meant as in I find bearded bros yummy, metaphorically speaking of course :o

Don't mean beardless bros aren't good Mu'mins though. Just my personal preference is for hair and lots of it. I like 'em furry mashaAllah :D

Oh and I append a proviso that a man's beard is not necessarily an iman indicator. Met a few dodgy bearded types unfortunately. For them it's sadly just a 'pious' facade... :rolleyes:
Lets not even get started on that.. the thread would never end unfortunately.

[abdusamad]

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you." (Quran 4:59)

Obeying Rasool Allaah (SAWS) is also obeying Allaah. Thats how important it is to obey all of the commandments of our beloved prophet (SAWS).


Importance of the Beard in the words of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam):
(1) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "I have no connection iwth one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication."
- Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow)."
- Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498

(5) "Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) ordered us to trim the moustache closely and spare the beard" says Ibn Umar.
- Muslim, Hadith no. 449

(6) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)said: "Act against contrary to the polythesists, trim closely the moustache and grow the beard."
- Reported by Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 500

(7) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "Trim closely the moustache and grow the beard."
- Reported by Abu Hurairah (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501
The views of the four Imaams in the 4 Schools of Thoughts (madhahib) in the History of Islam.

Hanafi

Imam Muhammed (R.A.) writes in his book "Kitabul Aathaar" where he relates from Imam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) who relates from Hadhrat Haytham (R.A.) who relates from Ibn Umar (R.A.) that he (Ibn Umar) used to hold his beard in his hand and cut off which was longer. Imam Muhammed (R.A.) says that this is what we follow and this was the decision of Imam Abu Hanifa. Therefore, according to Hanafies, to shorten the beard less than a FIST LENGTH is HARAAM and on this is IJMA (concensus of opinion).

Shafi'i
Imam Shafi (R.A.) in his Kitabul Umm states, "To shave the beard is HARAAM." (Shari Minhaj dar Shara Fasl Aqueeqa).
Maaliki
Shekh Ahmad Nafarawi Maliki in the commentary of Imam Abu Zayed's booklet states, "to shave the beard is without doubt haraam according to all Imams." It is also mention in "Tamheed" which is a commentary of "Muatta" (Sunnan Imam Malik (R.A.)) that to shave the beard is HARAAM and among males the only ones to resort to this practice (of shaving) are the HERMAPHRODITES (persons who possess both male and female features and characteristics).
Hanbali
The Hanbalies in the famous Al-Khanie'a Hanbali Fatawa Kitab state that "to grow the beard is essential and to shave it is HARAAM." Also in the Hanbali Mathab books "Sharahul Muntahaa" and "Sharr Manzoomatul Aadaab", it is stated "The most accepted view is that it is HARAAM (prohibited to shave the beard)."
Also note, according to scholars of Islam: "To shave off the beard is unlawful (haraam) and one who shaves his beard is legally speaking an unrighteous fellow (FASIQ); hence, it is NOT PERMISSIBLE to appoint such a man as an Imam. To say Taraweeh behind such an Imam is MAKRUH-E-TAHRIMI (near prohibition)" (Shami Vol.1, p.523)
The Durre-Mukhtar states: "No one has called it permissible to trim it (the beard) less than FIST-LENGTH as is being done by some westernized Muslims and hermaphrodites." (Vol. 2, p. 155). Also, "It is forbidden (haraam) for a man to cut off another's beard." (Vol. 5, p. 359).

[alld]

Look at this picture,

http://www.naqshbandi.org/events/karzai/karzaim_2.jpg

Is there any difference between them? no.

MashaALLAH .
Even the beard in your earlier avatar was good enough considering the yardstick of length .
Hope these pictures can motivate beard less Muslims inshaallah .

[Abu Mus'ab]

I didnt realize beard was mandatory:rubeyes:
Well now you do.

[Abu Mus'ab]

I made a mistake and those who also voted "no no no no" made a mistake. There are brothers who dont have a beard because no hair grows on their face. So the poll should have been, would you marry one who shaves his beard. It is not our job to grow our beards, but its our job to NOT shave off our beards. This is a misconception amongst ALOT of muslims. They think we have to have a beard, thats wrong. Beard comes from Allaah, if Allaah gives you facial hair then alhamdulillah, if he doesnt then alhamdulillah. Your not doing wrong by not having a beard, your doing wrong by Shaving it off.



God help you if you would marry one who shaves his beard off. Remember the prophet (SAWS) turned away from the two persians without facial hair. Do you want to be married to one like that? Think before you follow your likes/dislikes. We as muslims shouldn't be led by our desires/prefferences but by our Islamic Values.
Seems like you haven't read the thread, they clearly stated that it refers to people who shave not those who can't grow beards.

[Abu Mus'ab]

erm i count 8 brothers that voted on that poll, wasn't it supposed to be females only *Roll Eyes*

[peace2u]

option: not sure, it would depend on a lot of other things.



Peace

[nami]

erm i count 8 brothers that voted on that poll, wasn't it supposed to be females only *Roll Eyes*

That's what I mean. Any brother who would consider getting married to a brother with or without a beard, something is wrong... :rubeyes:

[Niqaabi]

What is a good reason for not keeping it if you KNOW you should be?

Because yes it is just not shaving, so what makes you shave? Why do you shave?

These are the questions we all ask ourselves everyday and shaytaan has a big part in the answer. Why dont we do this? Why dont we carry out this wajid/fardh knowing it is a command from Allah and his prophet :saw:?

I understand where your coming from, a brother SHOULD have a very good reason for why he doesnt have a beard, just like sisters SHOULD have a good reason for why they dont wear hijaab, or why a revert doesnt pray 5 times a day. Im not being mean here but i have seen some reverts that dont pray and they have been a revert for like 6 months. Sorry but to me thats not a good enough reason, your muslim now you can say you are a revert. For how long? when you have been a muslim for 10 years are you going to use the same excuse? But its not for me to understand, some people use these excuses that they are just not ready and we can use lines like "not ready to obey Allah?" "not ready to fully follow islam?" "not ready to fully implement your deen knowing its a fardh?" but its not going to make the person change and think "yeh for the sake of Allah i will do it" they end up doing it because they feel other muslims judge them or shun them and thats not good dawah.
So yeh we can ask these "why" questions but majority of the time it might be "im not ready yet" which you can interpret as "not ready to follow rasoolAllah :saw: " but id rather someone be honest and rather than say its such an easy sunnah why are you disobeying Allah? Just try and help them and have sabr and make duah for them to get over this hardship like i got over my hardships by the will and grace and help of Allah azza wa ja'al.

[Ruprecht]

That's what I mean. Any brother who would consider getting married to a brother with or without a beard, something is wrong... :rubeyes:

I assume they took it to mean would they get married to a sister with/without a beard... :D

Although that does mean that there are three brothers who wouldn't marry a sister unless she had a decent beard...:shock:

[Peacenik]

Surely it's the character of the person you need to look at ?

There are people with beards that act in an extremely un-Islamic way.

Same goes for females who wear the Hijaab (some).

Men without beards can be the most wonderful people - kind, considerate, but at the same time, feel guilty about not keeping the beard.

There's good and bad in all.

It would be folly to choose on the beard alone without looking deeper.

[nami]

Surely it's the character of the person you need to look at ?

There are people with beards that act in an extremely un-Islamic way.

Same goes for females who wear the Hijaab (some).

Men without beards can be the most wonderful people - kind, considerate, but at the same time, feel guilty about not keeping the beard.

There's good and bad in all.

It would be folly to choose on the beard alone without looking deeper.

true, but more often than not, the beard is a good sign/starting point. After seeing the beard, you supposed to dig deeper.

[Peacenik]

true, but more often than not, the beard is a good sign/starting point. After seeing the beard, you supposed to dig deeper.

Fair point, but if I was to marry a female with a Hijaab, I'd like to know what kind of person she was.

Same goes for females wanting to marry a brother with a beard (well, I would hope so).

[nami]

Fair point, but if I was to marry a female with a Hijaab, I'd like to know what kind of person she was.

Same goes for females wanting to marry a brother with a beard (well, I would hope so).

Agreed! :up:

[Peacenik]

Phew !

That's settled then ;)

[sajid]

Lets rephrase this poll

would you marry a guy with a big beard - yet he was dodgy

likewise

with a clean shaven guy that prays and practise 5 times a day

whats the different?

there are people like this out there

p.s thanks salman :P

[MMS]

Lets rephrase this poll

would you marry a guy with a big beard - yet he was dodgy

likewise

with a clean shaven guy that prays and practise 5 times a day

whats the different?

there are people like this out there

p.s thanks salman :P

obviously u are not just going to be marrying him just for his beard, but for his obedience to Allah for growing and it and his fear of Allah for not shaving it

you just wouldnt marry a dodgy person would u :p

but if u were to choose out of a guy who is clean shaven and prays etc and a bearded guy who also prays and practices his religion, u would go for the bearded one no?

[sajid]

obviously u are not just going to be marrying him just for his beard, but for his obedience to Allah for growing and it and his fear of Allah for not shaving it

you just wouldnt marry a dodgy person would u :p

but if u were to choose out of a guy who is clean shaven and prays etc and a bearded guy who also prays and practices his religion, u would go for the bearded one no?

well this is what this Thread seems to be about right?

cos to me this thread just seems that its being based on looks

most prolly wont agree with me

[OBL]

How unreal is it that a full grown adult desires that his face appears like that of a child: Allah created the beard and the mustache for the male adult to adorn his face with them, whoever laughs and mocks those with beards, is in fact mocking the prophets. all the prophets had beard.

from compulsion on growing the beard, by muhammed zakarriya saheb

[.: Anna :.]

Lets rephrase this poll

would you marry a guy with a big beard - yet he was dodgy

likewise

with a clean shaven guy that prays and practise 5 times a day

whats the different?

there are people like this out there

p.s thanks salman :Psajid we rather have the husband to pray 5x and practising and beard... we want everything :p

[Ibn Khattab]

TAKBEER, man the beard is just too much,
much much better than starky and hutch,
bearded people are full of noor,
handsome, eloquent and mature.

this thread really affects this position,
i hope you enjoy this poetic edition.
cos the daari just simply rocks,
look theres a fox.

[Eemaan]

:rotfl:

ibn k what you been smokin :D

[peace2u]

How unreal is it that a full grown adult desires that his face appears like that of a child: Allah created the beard and the mustache for the male adult to adorn his face with them, whoever laughs and mocks those with beards, is in fact mocking the prophets. all the prophets had beard.

from compulsion on growing the beard, by muhammed zakarriya saheb

the desire to stay youthful..........

denial that he is getting old.........




Peace

[Ibn Khattab]

:rotfl:

ibn k what you been smokin :D

smoking you say, what do you mean?
all ima sayin man, its part of the deen.
brothers man, if you aint gona be a beardo,
quit it lak man your just a weirdo.

[Eemaan]

well this is what this Thread seems to be about right?

cos to me this thread just seems that its being based on looks

most prolly wont agree with me

no this thread is about the muslimahs preferance against brothers who shave their beards in preferance for a more effiminate appearance :o

its not about judging someone about the way the look its about the way in which they implement the sunnah and the diverting from main stream practisces they are willing to take.

of course a person who wearas hijab or dons the beard is no garuntee or reflection of their eemaan=- its coupled with their good charcter and conviction for the deen inshallah :up:

[Niqaabi]

Ibn k rocks! :up: lol!

[blue rose]

the beard isnt everything... first i think u shud look at the personality... is the guy has a beard then i gess its a bonus becoz hes practising a sunnah...

[RashidD]

Shaving is haraam.

[Ruprecht]

Shaving is haraam.

...and also sucks.

[nami]

the beard isnt everything... first i think u shud look at the personality... is the guy has a beard then i gess its a bonus becoz hes practising a sunnah...

To say that the beard is not everything is not the best thing to say. The beard is EXTREMELY important. There is a hadith which says that someone came to the prophet who was clean shaven but had a tash and the prophet looked away with disgust!

Does that not say it all? That a man who shaved his beard displeased the prophet (pbuh) so much that the prophet (pbuh) looked away...

Will try looking for this hadith for you, can't remember the reference off the top of my head.

[blue rose]

well we dnt hav the ryt to judge people whether they hav beards or not... havin a beard doesnt automatically make u a good muslim

[abdusamad]

Seems like you haven't read the thread, they clearly stated that it refers to people who shave not those who can't grow beards.

I get what you mean...

thread asked.. would you marry a non-beardo?


and I only simply pointed out that some people dont have beards because they simply dont have facial hair.

A clear straight forward question should have been.. "would you marry a bro who shaves"

[Unique Muslimah]

Beards are lavly:love::D

[Unique Muslimah]

Lets rephrase this poll

would you marry a guy with a big beard - yet he was dodgy

likewise

with a clean shaven guy that prays and practise 5 times a day

whats the different?

there are people like this out there

p.s thanks salman :P

If he's all practising and whatnot,why can't he just keep a beard??

[abdusamad]

well we dnt hav the ryt to judge people whether they hav beards or not... havin a beard doesnt automatically make u a good muslim


if he shaves, he is sining. So it only says "hey I am sining publicly!"

[abdusamad]

To say that the beard is not everything is not the best thing to say. The beard is EXTREMELY important. There is a hadith which says that someone came to the prophet who was clean shaven but had a tash and the prophet looked away with disgust!

Does that not say it all? That a man who shaved his beard displeased the prophet (pbuh) so much that the prophet (pbuh) looked away...

Will try looking for this hadith for you, can't remember the reference off the top of my head.

The persian men

[nami]

well we dnt hav the ryt to judge people whether they hav beards or not... havin a beard doesnt automatically make u a good muslim

but you're missing the point bro/sis. any act which displeases the prophet (pbuh) displeases allah.

so any man who is willing to displease allah by openly sinning (shaving), then something is wrong.

and you're right, it doesn't automatically make you a good muslim, but at least you're not an open sinner by keeping a beard.

[nami]

The persian men

yes that was it, do you remember the hadith bro?

[blue rose]

but you're missing the point bro/sis. any act which displeases the prophet (pbuh) displeases allah.

so any man who is willing to displease allah by openly sinning (shaving), then something is wrong.

i know wot u mean... but findin a husband isnt as easy as clicking ur fingers...

[Ebony]

:1popcorn:

[abdusamad]

yes that was it, do you remember the hadith bro?

yes, but only pretty much what you mentioned, I dont remember it detailed. There was also a sahabi had one string of hair on his chin, and prophet would smile and mildy laugh whenever he saw it, and the sahabi thought it was because of the hair just sticking out, so he pulled it out, and next time prophet (SAWS) saw him, he asked him what he do? and he said he thought prophet was laughin at him because of it, and prophet turned away and walked away.

This is not word for word.

So even if it looks ugly, no excuse to shave!


I heard from brothers (Da'ee) that reason prophet (SAWS) smiles and laughed, was because he saw angels play with it, and angels play with our beards in between the hairs.



Wallahu alim.

[ibn suleman]

:1popcorn:

i thought u said no carbs :p

[RashidD]

http://www.alinaam.org.za/dhadith/sbeard.htm

#2 under the sub-heading Proof of the Wujoob.

[abdusamad]

http://www.alinaam.org.za/dhadith/sbeard.htm

#2 under the sub-heading Proof of the Wujoob.


When the two messengers of Kisraa (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)

[blue rose]

ive met a lot of beardy guys and believe me i wudnt marry any of them purely bcoz of their character and the people they are

masha'allah they hav beards and im not knockin that but i believe if ur gonna hav a beard then u shud practice... because ur representing islam...

nearly all the bearded men i hav met... well i dnt want to go into all of that... personal experience has shown me that a guy having a beard isnt EVERYTHING...

shaving the beard is haram... but so r a lot of things and we do them...

im jus sayin that u cnt judge a guy on whether he has a beard or not...

[Raziel]

Oops I almost clicked No on the poll :eek:

thought it might be referring to sis's... :D

:jkk

[Medievalist]

My yardstick is the longer the beard the bigger the pervertedness.

There are guys who are pure and hav long beards but i have yet to come across them.

harsh

People should think abt what they say - particularly when its regarding a sunnah

[bint]

harsh

People should think abt what they say - particularly when its regarding a sunnah
exactly..redmist u shud really take those words back..

our ulemas have long beards..are you calling them perverts? are you calling the prophet Muhammad SAW that too? (Na udhubillah)..really please have that deleted ..im disgusted.

[Peacenik]

well we dnt hav the ryt to judge people whether they hav beards or not... havin a beard doesnt automatically make u a good muslim

100% agree.

At last, some common sense.

[Peacenik]

i know wot u mean... but findin a husband isnt as easy as clicking ur fingers...

Or a wife (preferrably without the beard).

[blue rose]

Or a wife (preferrably without the beard).

lol... but this thread was a question for the sisters sorry for not mentioning the wife part...

[Peacenik]

I know, but I thought I'd throw a spanner in the works ;)

[Raziel]

lol... but this thread was a question for the sisters sorry for not mentioning the wife part...

lol1 I wonder why so many Brothers thought they'd be asked a question about marrying a sister with a beard? :D :scratch:

:jkk:

[Peacenik]

We're trying to be funny

*cough*

[blue rose]

lol1 I wonder why so many Brothers thought they'd be asked a question about marrying a sister with a beard? :D :scratch:

:jkk:

We're trying to be funny

*cough*

is that wot u wanna call it??? being funny??

[JayC]

one of things i was looking for when looking to marry was a beard and alhamdulillah i married a :coolbro:

[Unique Muslimah]

ive met a lot of beardy guys and believe me i wudnt marry any of them purely bcoz of their character and the people they are

masha'allah they hav beards and im not knockin that but i believe if ur gonna hav a beard then u shud practice... because ur representing islam...

nearly all the bearded men i hav met... well i dnt want to go into all of that... personal experience has shown me that a guy having a beard isnt EVERYTHING...

shaving the beard is haram... but so r a lot of things and we do them...

im jus sayin that u cnt judge a guy on whether he has a beard or not...

Having a beard isn't an indication of how Islamic someone is..There are alot of beardos who pretend to be one thing,you know,got their beard,thowbs & trousers above ankles masha'Allah..but they're lacking so much,sometimes in the basics like manners,hayaa2 etc..
By the way this is not a generalisation I am making,it's merely an observation.Masha'allah I am sure that there are brothers who do observe the sunnah of keeping a beard and on the other hand are firm in the other aspects of their deen masha'Allah
May Allah swt guide us all.Aameen.

[Chained_Water]

So what though if there are are bros who keep beards and do bad things, I know of many too, but really, so what?

Its like the same old stuff we hear about hijaabis gone wild.

It's besides the point completely, and still doesn't provide any reason as to why someone who knows how important something in like keeping the beard is in Islam would continue to shave everyday.

I think we all already established that it's not ONLY the beard you look at, you don't marry the first bearded guy you see, noone said that. So why the rerunning of "beardos can be bad" posts? Is it meant to be some kind of justification for brothers who don't keep them and purposely shave their facial hair off day in day out knowing its haraam or mukroh at the least..

[Peacenik]

is that wot u wanna call it??? being funny??

Whoahh !!!!

Easy....

[blue rose]

Whoahh !!!!

Easy....

im jus jokin...

[Peacenik]

Phew !

:D

[ImaanSeeker]

TAKBEER, man the beard is just too much,
much much better than starky and hutch,
bearded people are full of noor,
handsome, eloquent and mature.

this thread really affects this position,
i hope you enjoy this poetic edition.
cos the daari just simply rocks,
look theres a fox.

smoking you say, what do you mean?
all ima sayin man, its part of the deen.
brothers man, if you aint gona be a beardo,
quit it lak man your just a weirdo.


Great Stuff bro! :up: :up:

[Niqaabi]

So what though if there are are bros who keep beards and do bad things, I know of many too, but really, so what?

Its like the same old stuff we hear about hijaabis gone wild.

It's besides the point completely, and still doesn't provide any reason as to why someone who knows how important something in like keeping the beard is in Islam would continue to shave everyday.

I think we all already established that it's not ONLY the beard you look at, you don't marry the first bearded guy you see, noone said that. So why the rerunning of "beardos can be bad" posts? Is it meant to be some kind of justification for brothers who don't keep them and purposely shave their facial hair off day in day out knowing its haraam or mukroh at the least..
I completely agree. Its not judtified to say we all sin or we do bigger sins, you know i read somewhere that its the small sins that cause more havok cos you keep doing to because its small and its doesnt add much up but if you keep doing it then it becaomes massive. (the sins)
And just because we all sin doesnt mean we keep on sinning, we're suppose to keep away from sinning, yes it is likely we will sin, but you gotta try hard not to!
No one is judging anyone, but really a sunnah is a sunnah and this sunnah is wajib to carry out so even if the brother is commiting no one here should say "he should keep it" because that there is judging! Yes he shouldnt commit zina but at least he is doing one good and that is keeping beard. Its like the prostitute who gave the dog water, she got the reward for feeding the dog. And Allah mercy/reward is upto Him.

[bint_ummi]

I wouldn't marry someone without a beard... unless:
-he couldn't grow one
-he was trying to grow one
-he wanted to grow one(kinda like finally wearing hijab... you know?)
-his iman was soooo amazing that it outdid all the iman of every bearded man on the planet(kinda makes you wonder why he wouldn't have a beard though, dosen't it?)

[Abu Muslim]

Woah, I dont quite know whats going on but I did read some beardo slating.

The fact of the matter is, everyone sins, thats how the son of Adam was created [and the best being with one who repents but thats another topic], but we all do, beardos, non beardos, hijabis, non hijabis, niqaabis, the whole lot.

Its like the ajeeb mentality of some guys: oh i want a non hijabi cos Ive seen hijabis get upto all sorts. If the hijabis/beardos who can cover up for the sake of Allah can do all that, imagine the one who doesnt cover/sport a beard, what they can do.

It is better for a sister to wear the hijab then not, likewise it is better for a brother to have a beard, commit the sins rather than for him to not have the beard and commit the sins anyway. Our outward appearance reflects our inward emaan.

And also, no one is perfect, everyone has faults, everyone lacks in someplace or the other, so yes, you get bearded brothers with faults, omg, the world is about to end.

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

:salams

Beard :insha:- definately - sure a few can be a bit weird and stare but that's because they have issues - all talk of marriage no steps towards it leads to this for some people ( :p )

A beard is beautiful in a man if kept properly- not those silly designer pencil thin ones that make some people think they're gangsters like snoop doggy dog dog but nice beards according to the person's understanding of Sunnah.

A long beard does not necessarily mean the length of his deen. I don't think I'd marry a guy without a beard and this has been made plain unless he had a problem- none of that bollywood clean shaven look thank you :nerdsis:

:wswrwb:

[`asiya]

95% of threads about marriage or spouses is in the private sections of the forum :rolleyes:


wheres that ? :0:

[seven]

i don't get this thing about brothers that have beards (or women that wear hijab) should behave themselves coz they're representing islam... anyone that is a muslim should behave themselves, because, practising or not, they are representing islam.

[alld]

wheres that ? :0:

is that the one called as brother section and sister section :rubeyes:

[Kal-El]

we hear about hijaabis gone wild.


That sounds so funny :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kal-El]

wheres that ? :0:

Male and Female forums. :rolleyes:

[`asiya]

Male and Female forums. :rolleyes:

ohhhhhhh ok ... :0: hmmm ..so now we know all about what goes on over there on "the other side" eh kal ..

[Abu Mus'ab]

Male and Female forums. :rolleyes:
So what are you then?

Cause you claim to know what's in both gender's sections.

[urban_rose]

That isnt necessarily true, all of us are not marriage obsessed :D

[Kal-El]

Accusations. Outrageous accusations. :rolleyes:

That's all I can say to that.

[Kal-El]

That isnt necessarily true, all of us are not marriage obsessed :D

Brothers talk about what they'd look for in a wife. I'm sure the sisters do the same in the Forbidden Forum (a.k.a. sisters forum).

[urban_rose]

Brothers talk about what they'd look for in a wife. I'm sure the sisters do the same in the Forbidden Forum (a.k.a. sisters forum).


hmm, not really....

[AnZ4evaiA]

Would you marry a non beardo?

it's a no no no NOO for me

[alld]

hmm, not really....

though i have nenver been to female section but guess they may be talking about dress fashion food jewellary apart from their school college matters and certainly not about the beard

[AnZ4evaiA]

Brothers talk about what they'd look for in a wife. I'm sure the sisters do the same in the Forbidden Forum (a.k.a. sisters forum).


:eek: lol

Dont let the cat out of the bug hehe

[Black_Flag]

it's a no no no NOO for me

same as! the beard is wht makes a dude bufffffffffffffffffffff! :hidban:

[bint_ummi]

same as! the beard is wht makes a dude bufffffffffffffffffffff! :hidban:
lol... sis you're so funny mashallah...

[Te'oma]

Brothers talk about what they'd look for in a wife. I'm sure the sisters do the same in the Forbidden Forum (a.k.a. sisters forum).


:rotfl: @ the forbidden forum...
Trust me akhi, after a wife and 4 daughters and overhearing some of their convos, you don't want to know what women talk about. It would scare you :p

[Supernova Nebula]

:rotfl: @ the forbidden forum...
Trust me akhi, after a wife and 4 daughters and overhearing some of their convos, you don't want to know what women talk about. It would scare you :p

how scary? could u please share with us?:p

[Azzar]

My yardstick is the longer the beard the bigger the pervertedness.

There are guys who are pure and hav long beards but i have yet to come across them.


oiii! I have long beard and am not that!

[GKM]

Beard is good and must be in good shape so every one likes to keep beard but unfortunately some bros keep beard(:D) and they look like as they just come from TORA BORA:hidban:

[Islamiyyah]

I put the wrong vote!:o


I mean I wouldnt marry a brother w/o a beard unless he had a good excuse.

[muslimah85]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement

[GKM]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement
Yes I agree we should not look only BEARD and Scarf or Niqab.

[Cristiana]

I wouldn't marry anybody that isn't MY BEARDO:coolbro: :inlove:

...but in general...unless is hopelessly patchy... the beard makes a brother more "BROTHER" in my opinion. AND it's fluffy:D

[Cristiana]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement

That's right. I had beardos yelling at me from cars:eek:

but I think here we are just talking "look-wise":D

[Masumah]

i know of sum men who use der beard to "pull birds" :rolleyes:

[Sulaiman Harun]

What does Refugee no make it a good poll mean?

[Masumah]

What does Refugee no make it a good poll mean?

it means that do u think refugee bro does not make good polls?

[MMS]

i know of sum men who use der beard to "pull birds" :rolleyes:
some even use it to store yesterdays biryani :rubeyes:

[Abu Muslim]

i know of sum men who use der beard to "pull birds" :rolleyes:

Wow masha'Allah they must have some long beards, like cowboy rope kinda beards, I think some brothers would like beards long enough to pull birds with, free meal right there.

[Sulaiman Harun]

it means that do u think refugee bro does not make good polls?
but he didn't make the poll

[RashidD]

but he didn't make the poll

It's just a "take the mic" thing :)

[muslim_sis]

Mash'allah its good to go for someone who tries/strives to looks/resembles the prophet Muhammad Ibn Abduallah (saw)....when brothers try and shave the beard they just look moldy lol, and there face just looks over green and spiky :D not a good sight, not at all! But nope i wouldnt wnna marry a brother that shaves, no way!

Some naseeha to the brothers insh'allah, try n look like this brother here insh'allah :coolbro:
lol mashallah sis - interestingly put in a nice way ! :up: :coolbro:

[eshanz]

i got a beard :D short ok but its a beard alhamdulillah
yaaay me :D

[muslim_sis]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement
well the sisters saying yes to beards i can assure are saying it for the reason that inshallah that individual is trying to be more like muhammed (saw). so the brother having a beard would go in accordance with his actions [i.e. trying to be like muhamed (saw) in all aspects] inshallah if it were for the reason of following the sunnah inshallah !

[Islamiyyah]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement

My mom says the same, but we shouldnt have general thoughts like that.

I believe the beard and niqaab is fardh.


End of my story.

[seven]

the amount of bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that beard is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement
the amount of non-bearded men Ive seen and their actions :(, just scares me that islam is not as significant anymore :S, more a fashion statement

[Eemaan]

when brothers try and shave the beard they just look moldy lol, and there face just looks over green and spiky

shaving makes your skin mouldy :rubeyes:

[Abu Mus'ab]

shaving makes your skin mouldy :rubeyes:
You didn't know? :rubeyes:

[Eemaan]

You didn't know? :rubeyes:

no :(

no one tells me anything :crying2:

[alld]

the best poll i think to be like lenght of the beard , i like big lentgy bushy type . i got my scale ready . non bearded excuse nd go on shaving your treasure if u like :)

[Bint Yusuf]

shaving makes your skin mouldy :rubeyes:

ewwwwwwwww mouldy face:rubeyes:

[Irfan GBH]

:coolbro: Strokes beard :inlove:

[alld]

:coolbro: Strokes beard :inlove:

Irfan dhariwaala :)

[Azzar]

"trim your mustaches and let your beards grow" so you are arguing against the Prophet now?

[Islamiyyah]

"trim your mustaches and let your beards grow" so you are arguing against the Prophet now?

Exactly, thats why the beard is FARDH.

JazakAllahu Khayr akhi

[Ibn Sina]

Mines just started and I'm never gonna shave it even if it is just a fluff under my chin :D :inlove: :hidban:

[OBL]

Mines just started and I'm never gonna shave it even if it is just a fluff under my chin


:up:

[$HugoBoss$]

I grow it than shave and than i grow it again and than shave :(

[ImaanSeeker]

I grow it than shave and than i grow it again and than shave :(

how come bro? :(

[RashidD]

I grow it than shave and than i grow it again and than shave :(

1.) Don't expose sin InshaALLAH :up:

2.) Shaving is haraam bro, may ALLAH (Azzawajall) give you the Tawfeeq to stop. Ameen :)

[alld]

how come bro? :(

may be he didn't do niyaah for keeping beard yet .

[ImaanSeeker]

may be he didn't do niyaah for keeping beard yet .

oh, i figured it might have been his parents or something.

[sunflower820]

If i had known this woman would have rejected me based solely that i didnt have a beard, then I would have retracted my proposal and looked for someone better.

:coolbro: No shallow women allowed in this castle


it has nothing to do with being shallow.some of us women believe that a man should have a beard for islamic reason. its nothing about vanity its for religous purposes

[sunflower820]

what abaht when Arrogorn, king of mordor converts to Islam inshallah :eek3:
LOL!

[junaidb]

:)

[bint_ummi]

[quote=.: Anna :.;1795022 i think a husband who refuses 2 keep it, and insists on shaving... that would be quite upsetting :S[/quote]
he should be kicked :(

[bint]

I grow it than shave and than i grow it again and than shave :(
lol sounds like someone i know.

yes its hard like a woman should refrain from plucking eyebrows..inshaAllah try ure hardest. a beard does look cool.

[Medievalist]

Mulla Ali Qaree rahimahullah called the beard-shavers kusrey.

[bint]

whats a kusrey?

[Medievalist]

whats a kusrey?

i think they are called hijras in yr india.

[bint]

i think they are called hijras in yr india.
hijras? like emigrating?

[Medievalist]

The kusrey are the she-men. **roll eyes**

[bint]

The kusrey are the she-men. **roll eyes**
eww. hijaras? she men? :rotfl: lemme ask guvna. :D

[bint]

okay asked him. turns out ure right. how come u know gujji term?

[Medievalist]

okay asked him. turns out ure right. how come u know gujji term?

ahem **no comment**

[urban_rose]

hijras? like emigrating?

:rotfl:

[Ibn Khattab]

what abaht when Arrogorn, king of mordor converts to Islam inshallah :eek3:

Alhamdulilah im already muslim :)

[Unique Muslimah]

Alhamdulilah im already muslim :)

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Deear Oh Dear....

[Ibn Khattab]

Ibn Arathorn :coolbro:

[Махди]

A non beardo woman... yeah!

[Abu Mus'ab]

Who bumped this poll? :eek3:

[sapphire_blue]

Who bumped this poll? :eek3:


Methinks it was DQ . .

[LFC]

lol @ the bros who voted in this poll... :S Might as well join ya. ;)

[Taalibah 4 Life]

av put a post up b4 about a beard,itz waajib.

Those of u that were at the nasheed festival in hyde,u must'veheard me say in my speech that "a guy without a beard is like a lion without a mane!"

am not gone say it all,but will provide the link once av got hold of it myself inshAllaah!

[Umm 'Umarah]

I don't think there is anything wrong in marrying a non bearded brother if he has intention to keep it, refusing to keep it full stop might be a major problem.

he may not keep it for several reasons, some guys beards just dont seem to grow lol. but if he is weak in his eemaan and he marries a women who is strong in her deen she can help him become strong and instil his love for sunnah.

same applies to brothers who marry non-jilbaab wearing sisters, hijaab understandably would be the benchmark but if she doesn't wear jilbaab due to weakness in eemaan, then he shouldn't judge her based on that he should marry her and help her become firm in her deen.

shaykh's in madrassah's advise their taalib's to marry sisters who are not Aailimah's because an Aalimah would already be equipped with the knowledge and understanding of the deen, whereas a sister who isn't an aalimah would be better with a husband who can be a means of guidance for her .

[ADZ w3]

NOPE i cudnt do it!! no matter how practising..i cud never marry a sister wid a beard!!!

[ify]

I don't think there is anything wrong in marrying a non bearded brother if he has intention to keep it, refusing to keep it full stop might be a major problem.

he may not keep it for several reasons, some guys beards just dont seem to grow lol. but if he is weak in his eemaan and he marries a women who is strong in her deen she can help him become strong and instil his love for sunnah.

same applies to brothers who marry non-jilbaab wearing sisters, hijaab understandably would be the benchmark but if she doesn't wear jilbaab due to weakness in eemaan, then he shouldn't judge her based on that he should marry her and help her become firm in her deen.

shaykh's in madrassah's advise their taalib's to marry sisters who are not Aailimah's because an Aalimah would already be equipped with the knowledge and understanding of the deen, whereas a sister who isn't an aalimah would be better with a husband who can be a means of guidance for her .

:up:

NOPE i cudnt do it!! no matter how practising..i cud never marry a sister wid a beard!!!

loool - gud job no1 expects u 2 :p

[Raziel]

This is another Worthless thread, just like the one about "Would you marry a Niqaabi?"

I hope brothers and sisters can see the absurd nature of such threads...

we should have No Objections to a Sunnah, nor should we recommend against any act of Sunnah...

:jkk:

[Abu Mus'ab]

This is another Worthless thread, just like the one about "Would you marry a Niqaabi?"

I hope brothers and sisters can see the absurd nature of such threads...

we should have No Objections to a Sunnah, nor should we recommend against any act of Sunnah...

:jkk:
You didn't read the thread did you? :smack:

[sis_niqabi]

Salam

me personally. i would not marry a non-bearded brother. because i believe that it's important for a man to keep a beard in islam. a beard for a man is like hijab for a woman.
i think a bearded man is a sign on how strong his faith is. of course there are other things to look at as sign of iman. but seeing a non bearded man is a complete turn off for me because it's a sign that he doesn't understands the importance of keeping one.

and that's just my opinion

[Peacenik]

i think a bearded man is a sign on how strong his faith is.

No it isn't.

:)

[umm shuyookh]

Salam

me personally. i would not marry a non-bearded brother. because i believe that it's important for a man to keep a beard in islam. a beard for a man is like hijab for a woman.
i think a bearded man is a sign on how strong his faith is. of course there are other things to look at as sign of iman. but seeing a non bearded man is a complete turn off for me because it's a sign that he doesn't understands the importance of keeping one.
and that's just my opinion

there is an exception sis, some men are not blessed with the beard.

[umm shuyookh]

No it isn't.

:)

it is one of the signs of how strong his faith is definitely.

[Abu Mus'ab]

No it isn't.

:)
You done with the niqaab now? so now it's defending the beardless "men"?

[Abu Mus'ab]

there is an exception sis, some men are not blessed with the beard.
Yes we know, and we never refer to those men, when we say "beardless" we refer to those that shave it without a valid reason.

[Raziel]

No it isn't.

:)

it's a sign that he is willing to follow the Sunnah of Rasulullah :saw: as we all should...

:jkk:

[sumayyah_19]

salaam aleykum

No, i would certainly not marry a man without a beard.the prophet peace be upon him was commanded to grow his beard and clip his moustache,so as to appose the mushriks who grow their moustache and shave off their beards.
the beard is the beauty of a man.
when a muslim man shaves off his beard without a reason,he resembles the kuffar and he is openly disobeying Allah.
shaving off ones beard is so henious that if someone shaves off another persons beard he will have to pay "Diya"it is like a fee,similar to the blood money in Qisaas ,if a person kills someone he will have to be killed also according to the islamic law,but if the persons relatives forgive him then he will have to pay that fee caled Qisaas, retalliation.


Do those men who shave their beards think it will make them beautiful?
no. rather they look like old women.take Tyler Perry for example when he becomes "Madea"

[sis_niqabi]

there is an exception sis, some men are not blessed with the beard.

of course if the brother can't grow one.that's a different story. but one who shaves it. is a :nono: for me

[Lone Wolf]

of course if the brother can't grow one.that's a different story. but one who shaves it. is a :nono: for me

When i said I wouldn't marry a Niqabi there was a furore. Would a Niqabi marry a non-beardo like me?

No she wouldnt! :D

[muslimah84]

When i met my husband, he didnt have a beard. I found him attractive. A few months after our marriage, my husband decided to grow his beard. I have to honestly saw that i don't find my husband attractive with a beard. It's been really hard. We have been married for 4 years, and i still dont find him attractive. I know...its really bad that i dont like the beard, i mean its SUNNAH! I just dont like the feeling of the beard and the look of it. When my husband and i are alone, I take my hijab off, fix my hair, makeup...etc. to attract my husband. Why is it that i have to look good for him, but he cant look good for me :confused:

[sis_niqabi]

When i said I wouldn't marry a Niqabi there was a furore. Would a Niqabi marry a non-beardo like me?

No she wouldnt! :D

actually that's not true. i know a lot of niqabis married to non-beardos.

[Umm 'Umarah]

When i said I wouldn't marry a Niqabi there was a furore. Would a Niqabi marry a non-beardo like me?

No she wouldnt! :D

actually a niqaabi would marry a non-bearded brother, but you're right, a niqaabi wouldn't marry a non bearded person with a mentality like yours and anyone with your line of thinking that's for sure.

so the answer is: a Niqaabi would marry a non-bearded brother, someone like you..? NO!!!

[Nazias]

When i met my husband, he didnt have a beard. I found him attractive. A few months after our marriage, my husband decided to grow his beard. I have to honestly saw that i don't find my husband attractive with a beard. It's been really hard. We have been married for 4 years, and i still dont find him attractive. I know...its really bad that i dont like the beard, i mean its SUNNAH! I just dont like the feeling of the beard and the look of it. When my husband and i are alone, I take my hijab off, fix my hair, makeup...etc. to attract my husband. Why is it that i have to look good for him, but he cant look good for me :confused:

:rubeyes: You should be pleased that your husband has a beard and is following the Sunnah.

Just because he has a beard, this does not mean that he does not wish to look attractive to you but perhaps this is something that you should discuss with him as I am sure he would be saddened to hear/see you say such a thing about him on a forum. Insha'allah, it all works out for you! :up:

My husband's beard was barely there before and Alhumdulillah, I love the fact that he has grown his beard! :inlove: The bigger the bestter! :coolbro: and everytime I look at him, I feel proud that he is following the Sunnah of our Prophet :saw:

[Lone Wolf]

When i met my husband, he didnt have a beard. I found him attractive. A few months after our marriage, my husband decided to grow his beard. I have to honestly saw that i don't find my husband attractive with a beard. It's been really hard. We have been married for 4 years, and i still dont find him attractive. I know...its really bad that i dont like the beard, i mean its SUNNAH! I just dont like the feeling of the beard and the look of it. When my husband and i are alone, I take my hijab off, fix my hair, makeup...etc. to attract my husband. Why is it that i have to look good for him, but he cant look good for me :confused:

Maybe you should convince him to get a stick on beard like they use in the movies. He can wear it out and about but take it off in the home!

[elji]

actually a niqaabi would marry a non-bearded brother, but you're right, a niqaabi wouldn't marry a non bearded person