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Lady_Mujahideen
26-03-07, 02:08 PM
Asalamu alaykum
Case Study: Teenage muslim girl , muslim boyfriend . Parents don't know. They continue their little relationship in secret.
There are so many cases like this. Even where a muslim is involved with a non-muslim.
What I would like to know is why???
Medievalist
26-03-07, 02:09 PM
Asalamu alaykum
What I would like to know is why???
alaykum salaam.
is thata a rhetorical qsn? :rubeyes:
Al-ghurabah
26-03-07, 02:10 PM
sis these days its not done in secretanymore.. im my daus they used to hide but now you see kids having no shame no fear they willing to meet in front of elders.. and other muslims
Lady_Mujahideen
26-03-07, 02:10 PM
No it isn't. I would actually like to know why. And discuss it in an adult manner.
Young muslim boys having girlfirends..does it ring a bell?
Asalamu alaykum
Case Study: Teenage muslim girl , muslim boyfriend . Parents don't know. They continue their little relationship in secret.
There are so many cases like this. Even where a muslim is involved with a non-muslim.
What I would like to know is why???
is really a sad situation, especially nowadays , forget boyfriends and girlfriends, "muslims" havin extra marital affairs and thinking nothing of it, is sooo rife, it really hurts to see and hear stuff like this
Medievalist
26-03-07, 02:12 PM
sis these days its not done in secretanymore.. im my daus they used to hide but now you see kids having no shame no fear they willing to meet in front of elders.. and other muslims
forget that - elders KNOW whose son is with whose daughter and the only thing they do is now and then tut a disapproval and then move on.
Because of elders being lenient on this matter - the disease has become rampant. I dont have anything but contempt for such elders - regardless of who or what they think of themselves.
Al-ghurabah
26-03-07, 02:12 PM
No it isn't. I would actually like to know why. And discuss it in an adult manner.
im sure you know why..
its lust, temptation, peer pressure, media tv adverts all promote it..
Lady_Mujahideen
26-03-07, 02:13 PM
Yeah so what, it is kind of the same thing just vice-versa.
Niqaabi
26-03-07, 02:14 PM
Why? You need to ask those people that.
some say because their parents wouldnt allow it. But wont it be hard if you have to get married off to some next person after you've had your time with this other person? It would hurt even more than not being with them at all. IMO.
Al-ghurabah
26-03-07, 02:17 PM
forget that - elders KNOW whose son is with whose daughter and the only thing they do is now and then tut a disapproval and then move on.
Because of elders being lenient on this matter - the disease has become rampant. I dont have anything but contempt for such elders - regardless of who or what they think of themselves.
true bro parents are cared of saying stuff in case the kids run away or rebel.. hence you lsee lady/ man with hijab and beard with kids looking like western kids ...
Bint Yusuf
26-03-07, 02:17 PM
reasons why my friends and some female cousins had boyfriends is because they didn't have a good or any islamic influences as in they didn't go madressa, or have muslim friends or their parents aren't that strict.
I know in my case it was my personal beliefs that stopped me from going down that road because I was put into madressa etc. Many kids go madressa when they young but parents think oh they've finished qur'an thats that! When teenage hood if the worst time a child gets influenced..!! It's only once their almost out of their teenage hood that they realise something is missing in their life which is ISLAM, being a practicing muslim.
ibn suleman
26-03-07, 02:21 PM
becos they dont know their deen properly
My question is: Let's say this was your daughter or son acting the same way, i.e. dating secretly/girlfriends/boyfriends - what would you honestly do to stop this kind of behaviour? What is the solution?
I don't want answers like, 'My child wouldn't act that way' or 'I'd bring them up properly in a good environment,' - because let's say it DID happen.
id sit em down..
id talk to her..get his parents down too..
if theyre serious on gettin married then do so..if its playing then well i dont know yet..cos ill have to think hard..with my husband and hes not here to help me make my decision. :D
so i guess inshaAllah...it wont happen..i know u dont want me to say that..but id rathe that i bought em up in such a way that it does not happen.
and if they did see someone thy want to marry..id ask them to go thru me..not take it into their own hands.
id sit em down..
id talk to her..get his parents down too..
if theyre serious on gettin married then do so..if its playing then well i dont know yet..cos ill have to think hard..with my husband and hes not here to help me make my decision. :D
so i guess inshaAllah...it wont happen..i know u dont want me to say that..but id rathe that i bought em up in such a way that it does not happen.
and if they did see someone thy want to marry..id ask them to go thru me..not take it into their own hands.
That's a reasonable answer Bint :) Talking is the best method, not hitting/smacking them otherwise you see some kids rebelling.
Btw are you married? Because you mentioned in your post that your husband wasn't with you, so I assumed you were. :p
cra zee
26-03-07, 02:30 PM
Salaamz y'all
itz a good topic ya knaw
n cozza dis reason da UK has da highest numba of teenage pregnancies.. many of which lead to abortions and 95% of these girls having their children aborted ar emuslims. and even the kufaar girls having their children aborted.. the children are still born upon the fitrah and are muslims. but i guess having a gf/bf in todays society has becum such a norm. that no one thinks of it as being wrong. people have no hayah left in them.. and when one has no hayah..they can go to any extent
stephenoskie
26-03-07, 02:30 PM
Asalamu alaykum
Case Study: Teenage muslim girl , muslim boyfriend . Parents don't know. They continue their little relationship in secret.
There are so many cases like this. Even where a muslim is involved with a non-muslim.
What I would like to know is why???
trying to fit in with others, its part if growing up
and espically growing up in a western soicety this hard
That's a reasonable answer Bint :) Talking is the best method, not hitting/smacking them otherwise you see some kids rebelling.
Btw are you married? lol :p
lol..i dont think in these situations id slap her..or him..as much as id want to i wudnt..
this wud be serious..and id be serious..and not resort to slapping..id want to sort it out properly..once n for all..no mesing about straight to the point.
mental torture is worse :p but id never use it on my kids..
do i sound married? :eek:
lol..i dont think in these situations id slap her..or him..as much as id want to i wudnt..
this wud be serious..and id be serious..and not resort to slapping..id want to sort it out properly..once n for all..no mesing about straight to the point.
mental torture is worse :p but id never use it on my kids..
do i sound married? :eek:
lol....you said your husband wasn't around, so I assumed you were married. :p :p
Anyway, a parent has to be strict with their children in order to be taken seriously, so yeah I agree. You can be harsh with words without resorting to violence.... and YET still get your point across :)
cra zee
26-03-07, 02:33 PM
trying to fit in with others, its part if growing up
and espically growing up in a western soicety this hard
wel it depends on hu ur tryna fit in wit :S
da kufaar society or muslim society?
lol....you said your husband wasn't around, so I assumed you were :p :p
Anyway, a parent has to be strict with their children in order to be taken seriously, so yeah I agree.
lol i meant..it wud be a join decision..id mention my feelings towards it to him..hed do the same..but i dont know what he'll say..cos im not married to him yet :p
sowie sis didnt see ur post there........fink i went of topic :P
Its fine :) The point you mentioned is very important and is something that has become common in today’s society. :)
anyways ahem..
boyfriends is the 'in' thing at the moment..can be a cause of peer pressure too.
It is a shame that young Muslims go around with boyfriends and girlfriends and especially having pre-marital affairs. As Muslims however we can't just blame the parents...we must blame our ummah/society/structure. If one strays we are to blame as a whole...we have to look out for our own family as well as our other brothers and sisters to ensure that they do not stray away from the right path.
However, they don't call it the "wild wild west" for nothing :D.
cra zee
26-03-07, 02:51 PM
anyways ahem..
boyfriends is the 'in' thing at the moment..can be a cause of peer pressure too.
yeh.. n even when u dont ave a bf.. those u mix wiv jus match u up.. :S ive seen it many tymz.. n ish not v.nice esp. wen u know itz rong and are being forced in2 da situation
yeh.. n even when u dont ave a bf.. those u mix wiv jus match u up.. :S ive seen it many tymz.. n ish not v.nice esp. wen u know itz rong and are being forced in2 da situation
yeah tryna be miss matchmaker..:smack:
she shud get a life.
cra zee
26-03-07, 02:53 PM
yeah tryna be miss matchmaker..:smack:
she shud get a life.
lol init... n these people dunt knaw a fing about da deen :( yet claim to be muslims and dont show it in der actions
sunrise
26-03-07, 03:24 PM
i went to the marriage talk at QM by Abu Talha...and the reason he gave i think is very true
These days parents, us, society etc have madce the 'halal' difficult and the 'haram' easy....yeah it's true some muslims involve them selves in adultery because they don't care but also some people see it as the only way out.
Allah (swt) craeted humans with desires but he also gave a soluation...marriage....but people have made it so hard putting all these restrictions and demands oh she must look like a super model and he must have a PHD and what not so people just resort to the haram to fulfil their dersires....which is very sad because marriage doesn't have 2 b hard 2 at all we just make it so......
Very true.
I mean, I want my missus to look like Cindy Crawford.
Why can't I find one that looks like her ?
INNIT! i was just gona say i look like a supermodel and have a PhD (errm well its getting there *cough*) but i still havent found my brad pitt lookalike making mega bucks (isnt it ironic that brad pitt doesnt do much for me) :D
Seriously i dont think its always the expectations- i dont think its as simple as that.
As far as youngsters dating goes- there are a number of reasons sadly. I have also noticed alot of parents knowing about their son or daughters behaviour and they think its acceptable and dont bat an eyelid. InshaAllah make dua that Allah (swt)_ protects all muslim brothers and sisters from such fitnah in the duniyah!
Problem is,parents dont want to sit down and explain to the child why something is wrong- they just scream and shout. Kids also are growing up just way too fast these days, Theyre so advanced its quite scary :S
Peer pressure, this TV junk aorund us, conformity to look a certain way, its "cool" to have a bf/gf etc... all reasons! Its also possibly a lack of deen in ones life and not the right kind of guidance..
Medievalist
26-03-07, 04:54 PM
My question is: Let's say this was your daughter or son acting the same way, i.e. dating secretly/girlfriends/boyfriends - what would you honestly do to stop this kind of behaviour? What is the solution?
If it was only a matter of them liking each other then talking would be the preferred method.
If things went terribly wrong and the child had fornicated then thats a completely different ball game. If it was a son then a beating and if he is repentant then ok - but he'd have to win trust back. If it was a daughter then a harsher beating - more likely from her mother cos my wife HATES that her daughters be like that - and then marry her off. In the end if the kid wants to be a lewd person then complete cut off for a son. For a daughter ship her off back home.
And its all nice to say we'd talk it over, we'd be there for our kids blah blah blah. Its all this softness that has resulted in such messed up lifestyle choices in our youth. If a kid sees grandad being chummy with the son who's got 2 illegitimate kids with an irish lass, if he sees oldest aunty being chummy with the sons gf then OBVIOUSLY he is gonna gain courage from this and be evil.
Rather cut off a diseased branch than to let the whole tree slowly rot.
If it was only a matter of them liking each other then talking would be the preferred method.
If things went terribly wrong and the child had fornicated then thats a completely different ball game. If it was a son then a beating and if he is repentant then ok - but he'd have to win trust back. If it was a daughter then a harsher beating - more likely from her mother cos my wife HATES that her daughters be like that - and then marry her off. In the end if the kid wants to be a lewd person then complete cut off for a son. For a daughter ship her off back home.
And its all nice to say we'd talk it over, we'd be there for our kids blah blah blah. Its all this softness that has resulted in such messed up lifestyle choices in our youth. If a kid sees grandad being chummy with the son who's got 2 illegitimate kids with an irish lass, if he sees oldest aunty being chummy with the sons gf then OBVIOUSLY he is gonna gain courage from this and be evil.
Rather cut off a diseased branch than to let the whole tree slowly rot.
ssoo being chummy with someone and being polite with people who you dont necessarily agree with or who havent done something in the right manner means that you or you kids are also gona turn out like that?:rolleyes:
no offence but i dont think so. The onus is on the parents to teach the children right from wrong and to educate them.
Im sure many of us have relatives who married or ran off with or whatever with non-muslims and arent really practising etc.. so if i see my mum or my dad being polite with someone who has illegitimate children then this is going to encourage me and i will become evil? Quite an insult to my intelligence or many other peoples out there quite frankly. You can see and accept that soething is wrong and this may actually strengthen your Imaan instead of having the opposite effect inshaAllah! It makes you appreciate the beauty of Islam and the rights and responsibilities in Islaam.
Maybe havig bad around us is good to an extent because it encourages us to forbid it and do righteous deeds inshaAllah.
Peacenik
26-03-07, 05:08 PM
So you'd rather pass on a Muslim who doesn't have a beard but reads his daily Salaat ?
Although he does wish to have a beard, but it's very difficult for him ?
So you'd rather pass on a Muslim who doesn't have a beard but reads his daily Salaat ?
Although he does wish to have a beard, but it's very difficult for him ?
:D nahh.. im just attracted to beards (waits to be shouted at) :D got nothing to do with that being a way of judging his level of Imaan :) dont get so defensive and presumptous brother peacenik.
Alhamdullilah being a good muslim, and praying salaah comes first to me.
Medievalist
26-03-07, 05:12 PM
ssoo being chummy with someone and being polite with people who you dont necessarily agree with or who havent done something in the right manner means that you or you kids are also gona turn out like that?:rolleyes:
no offence but i dont think so. The onus is on the parents to teach the children right from wrong and to educate them.
Im sure many of us have relatives who married or ran off with or whatever with non-muslims and arent really practising etc.. so if i see my mum or my dad being polite with someone who has illegitimate children then this is going to encourage me and i will become evil? Quite an insult to my intelligence or many other peoples out there quite frankly. You can see and accept that soething is wrong and this may actually strengthen your Imaan instead of having the opposite effect inshaAllah! It makes you appreciate the beauty of Islam and the rights and responsibilities in Islaam.
Maybe havig bad around us is good to an extent because it encourages us to forbid it and do righteous deeds inshaAllah.
You misunderstand the fundamental point.
When evil is committed, and tolerated then it encourages more evil to be taken place in public.
I aint rude or abusive to any one that I knw personally - at times I've spoken harshly and bluntly but that isnt the same thing as being rude. This liberal rubbish of being polite and chummy is just that - rubbish.
Nabi :saw: without doubt had the best akhlaaq - and often times the liberal brigade quote this and misinterpret it. Nabi :saw: had the best manners and the best etiquette and wouldnt take a PERSONAL insult and revenge it - but the sunnah is quite clear and emphatic that when the holy shari'ah was being contravened then none showed as much anger on that as Nabi :saw:
We like to think we polite and wise for turning blind eye to the OPEN sins that go on - but that isnt manners and it isnt wisdom - its called weakness and its called distortion of faith.
Promote the Virtue AND PREVENT THE VICE.
And children are like sponges - we take on the values that surround us. As an example a person may consider alcohol a taboo but we dont consider a lill dodgy benefit fraud that big a deal - why? Because CULTURALLY a sharaabi is an evil person but the one who is swindling her majesties government outta 80 quid a week is someone smart, someone clever, someone just cutting a small corner.
Values we need from Islaam - unfortunately many, including myself, lack in this department.
Well inshaAllah maybe we can learn and build on them? :)
There are very few people in this duniyah who will actually speak out when something is wrong. I have only come across a handful (if that) who have openly condemned the actions that thy witnessed as being wrong and subhanAllah seeing them being so direct was an amazing experience and left me feeling dumbfounded. (Maybe shameful too, at the prospect of turning a blind eye to things i see myself).
If it was only a matter of them liking each other then talking would be the preferred method.
If things went terribly wrong and the child had fornicated then thats a completely different ball game. If it was a son then a beating and if he is repentant then ok - but he'd have to win trust back. If it was a daughter then a harsher beating - more likely from her mother cos my wife HATES that her daughters be like that - and then marry her off. In the end if the kid wants to be a lewd person then complete cut off for a son. For a daughter ship her off back home.
And its all nice to say we'd talk it over, we'd be there for our kids blah blah blah. Its all this softness that has resulted in such messed up lifestyle choices in our youth. If a kid sees grandad being chummy with the son who's got 2 illegitimate kids with an irish lass, if he sees oldest aunty being chummy with the sons gf then OBVIOUSLY he is gonna gain courage from this and be evil.
Rather cut off a diseased branch than to let the whole tree slowly rot.
I agree to an extent.
One question though, why on earth does a Muslim girl deserve a harsher beating than the son?
Medievalist
26-03-07, 05:17 PM
I agree to an extent.
One question though, why on earth does a Muslim girl deserve a harsher beating than the son?
There is a crude saying in our MP - but basically the honour of men lies in their women.
And there is no concept of virginity in Islaam for a man - whereas there is for a woman.
If she loses her honour then I'd feel disgusted to even look at her.
I agree to an extent.
One question though, why on earth does a Muslim girl deserve a harsher beating than the son?
Cos shes a girl innit :rolleyes: she should have been locked up in the house, cooking rotis in the kitchen anyway :p
On a serious note- maybe he has a point of women supposed to guard their modesty more, etc etc... not sure- im sure these rules about chastity and haya also apply to men. I'll let medi answer and not make assumptions :D
Medievalist
26-03-07, 05:20 PM
Cos shes a girl innit :rolleyes: she should have been locked up in the house, cooking rotis in the kitchen anyway :p
On a serious note- maybe he has a point of women supposed to guard their modesty more, etc etc... not sure- im sure these rules about chastity and haya also apply to men. I'll let medi answer and not make assumptions :D
Well thats one thing I didnt mention. She shouldnt even have a way of contacting men - for her to do something like that means a truly evil conduct. For a son - he'd be out and about and in this society you have women everywhere so its not as hard for him to slip.
Well thats one thing I didnt mention. She shouldnt even have a way of contacting men - for her to do something like that means a truly evil conduct. For a son - he'd be out and about and in this society you have women everywhere so its not as hard for him to slip.
:rofl1: :rofl1: its ok, i mentioned it for you! are you saying it would be harder for your son to slip cos he'd be out and about where women exist?
Medi, are you planning on sending your daughters to school?
There is a crude saying in our MP - but basically the honour of men lies in their women.
And there is no concept of virginity in Islaam for a man - whereas there is for a woman.
If she loses her honour then I'd feel disgusted to even look at her.
Wouldn't you say the sin they both have committed is equally haram?
When we all die I'm sure Allah Almighty would make no differences between both genders. He wouldn't regard one sin less worthy or less haram just because it was committed by the male. Wouldn't they deserve the same punishment?
If Allah shows no gender preference, then why should we?
LiveIslam
26-03-07, 05:27 PM
id sit em down..
id talk to her..get his parents down too..
if theyre serious on gettin married then do so..if its playing then well i dont know yet..cos ill have to think hard..with my husband and hes not here to help me make my decision. :D
so i guess inshaAllah...it wont happen..i know u dont want me to say that..but id rathe that i bought em up in such a way that it does not happen.
and if they did see someone thy want to marry..id ask them to go thru me..not take it into their own hands.
Ive would of dun exactly the same aswell :up: . i would also ask why she/he gone in this situation in the first place, what made them do it?
Medievalist
26-03-07, 05:50 PM
:rofl1: :rofl1: its ok, i mentioned it for you! are you saying it would be harder for your son to slip cos he'd be out and about where women exist?
Medi, are you planning on sending your daughters to school?
I said its NOT as hard for a son to slip cos he goes out and about more.
Primary probably - secondary definitely not in uk
Wouldn't you say the sin they both have committed is equally haram?
When we all die I'm sure Allah Almighty would make no differences between both genders. He wouldn't regard one sin less worthy or less haram just because it was committed by the male. Wouldn't they deserve the same punishment?
If Allah shows no gender preference, then why should we?
There is no arguement against that so Im not gonna try and fathom one :up:
I said its NOT as hard for a son to slip cos he goes out and about more.
Primary probably - secondary definitely not in uk
There is no arguement against that so Im not gonna try and fathom one :up:
eeeehhhhh but surelyyy if he's going out and about that precisely might lead him to slip?! i mean he's being exposed to everything out there!
primary probably? lol- erm ok. so you wouldnt send her to secondary school in the Uk- what would be your option? (btw dont think im personally attacking you, you hold these views so im simply trying to gauge an idea of how you;d go about things like sending your daughters to school etc).
Medievalist
26-03-07, 06:04 PM
eeeehhhhh but surelyyy if he's going out and about that precisely might lead him to slip?! i mean he's being exposed to everything out there!
primary probably? lol- erm ok. so you wouldnt send her to secondary school in the Uk- what would be your option? (btw dont think im personally attacking you, you hold these views so im simply trying to gauge an idea of how you;d go about things like sending your daughters to school etc).
to your first part. Do you not understand english? Im saying that as the son goes outside more its EASIER for him to slip cos he comes in contact with women more than a daughter raised at home comes in contact with men. Got it now? :rolleyes:
No, no, no. No Jamia, no secondary, no college in uk. Home-tutoring is an option and money Im not concerned about. Rather spend hard-earned money on giving daughters an education that is worthwhile rather than send em on the cheap where they learn very little and risk ruining themselves. Or alternatively send abroad or finally Im seriously considering about establishing a small jamia here in uk after a few years. Money should inshaALLAH be from ALLAH's side, ilm from my Asaatizah and small bits and bobs from me.
One of the main reasons for illegitimate relationships such as this are because it is so hard for a young person to bring the subject of marriage to their parents.
Although we can try our best, in a mixed gender society you will no doubt be in close contact with the other gender so it's no real surprise that young Muslims develop feelings for one another outside of marriage. What the Muslim inside of them would do is to consider marriage as the viable solution before they commit a serious sin such as fornification.
But I speak from personal experience in saying this; 98% of the time parents will reject your marriage proposal and tell you to wait before marrying the girl.
It is the cultural boundaries which only fuel the problem and I think this is the real discussion point.
.: Anna :.
26-03-07, 07:24 PM
Sooo much off topic posts. I just spent the last 5 mins deleting 50% of the thread. Can people please control themselves from posting meaningless chit chat all over the forum??
To the actual question, both the youths themselves and the parents have to take responsibility in this. The parents its for not encouraging marriage in a young age, or for actively discouraging/forbidding it. Sometimes not realising what their kids are up to in society, where they go, who they go with... they should try to keep an eye on this. The kids fault also as some of them even if offered 2 get married young they dont want this. They are looking just to have "fun" and be like the non muslim youths in society. Insha allah teaching their deen more and surrounding with good friends would have helped the situation, but when they become older and into this kind of thing sometimes its harder... they should have been brought with it since their small days. Still some of them even are and they rebel anyway, they can only blame themselves in that case I guess :S
I think the reason that most teenagers and adolescents have romantic relationships is that they don't have a clear idea of their future.
I think it's very, very important to raise your children to be goal oriented -- it helps you and your kids to set definite, understandable limits on behaviour.
Often for kids, when you say something like, "No. You can't have a boyfriend or go out on dates," it sounds to them like you're saying, "No. You must be lonely and alone for your entire life."
I can't emphasize enough the importance of families having a "team spirit."
If mother and father are a team with clear, reasonable goals and objectives, then it's much easier for the kids to have clear, reasonable goals and objectives.
True Heart
26-03-07, 08:23 PM
I think that the reason why the younger generations want to have girlfriends or boyfriends is because they seek attention. They want someone to be able to hold them and make them feel like they are not alone. Don’t get me wrong they are also not good with their dean. The majority of them go to public school, I will not say they have their hair revealed or anything of that nature, because that does not stop them these days; nothing is going to stop them from the way it looks now. The older generations look at it as they are disrespectful by being happy to show it off. But they don’t care if people look it gives them a kick. In their mind set it does not matter. Because if you think about it the big saying “You are who you hang out with” that’s why they always say choice your friends. If they hang out with western kids all the time they will want to be like them having boyfriends having sex, getting body art, etc… If they go to Islamic school till they reach the age of Collage then they passed the dangerous stage. Yes some family can’t afford sending their kids to private school. But look at it. There are many other religions out there and not all of their kids have boyfriends or girlfriends or have sex at such a young age. They all know that it’s wrong. The way to solve this is not to give them the right to do anything and everything. But restrict what they do (limit), like going out they can only go out with people that you as their parent know and trust. My parents never let me out of their sight. If I would go out, I would not be able to leave without them knowing who and when I say who they have to know them for years and years. And after school there is nothing that would keep me outside. School to home and from home to school. I never had a job till I finished school that also helps. You don’t let them feel independent and expect them to listen to what you say. In the old days they would just get them married but we are not in that day and age. So we have to be civil and understand them. Being their friend helps but not all the time, and being too strict will push them. But from the beginning if your strong and hold your ground they will listen eventually.
:love:
saghveer
27-03-07, 07:57 PM
u cant stop them from doing these things, bcos we the muslims we r not perfect we dont set a good example to the young ones, we don't follow deen ourselves, but point fingers and backbite about other ppl.
stephenoskie
28-03-07, 10:30 AM
sorry i probally have so much to with that :(
cra zee
28-03-07, 01:06 PM
omg so many posts deleted :( oopz???
i was watching this programme on bbc 2 the other day, abt a muslim pakistani girl, and a white english non muslim boy, who work together, they 'fall in love' and towards the end of the movie she aged 17 runs away with him, i think his 18/19.
they sit on a train with her resting her shoulder on his head.
few days b4 that, her boyfriends racist brother beat up her dad, ok the b/f isnt racist and he did try 2 make him stop
but my point is she ran away with him, whilst her father was still critically ill.
the movie was called love & hate.
any1 seen it?
p.s we live in that era whereby zina is seen as fairseeming, remember what the prophet scw said in that famous hadith.
any1 seen it?
I watched it - found the end pretty ridiculous!
I watched it - found the end pretty ridiculous!
exactly, i was quite surprised
lol sis@the asian bro tho with the hoochie haha that had me and my girl cracking up.
also his double standards reminded me so much of my brother.
the whole movie was i dunno---strange to watch
the ending was a joke. that girl (THE SISTER) would one day wake up and think what have i done, i mean that fact that he was non muslim was not even discussed it was protrayed to focus on race more, when really race isnt the issue religion is!
remember when the asian bro dumps the white chick, and he says its coz of my religion
laughed my head of , when she swore and said d-head ur religion didnt stop u fornicating with me.
she had a point there.
exactly, i was quite surprised
lol sis@the asian bro tho with the hoochie haha that had me and my girl cracking up.
also his double standards reminded me so much of my brother.
the whole movie was i dunno---strange to watch
the ending was a joke. that girl (THE SISTER) would one day wake up and think what have i done, i mean that fact that he was non muslim was not even discussed it was protrayed to focus on race more, when really race isnt the issue religion is!
remember when the asian bro dumps the white chick, and he says its coz of my religion
laughed my head of , when she swore and said d-head ur religion didnt stop u fornicating with me.
she had a point there.
Yeah, I was probably more disgusted by the Asian guy then the girl. What a hypocrite, telling his sister to behave modestly when IN FACT he himself was having a relationship with a Non Muslim girl.
The film didn't seem realistic though....I mean, is it common for things like this to happen in Asian families in particular?
This is another example of integration, this is exactly what happens when we integrate with western ways of life. We need to reject integration for interaction on the basis of Islam. As long as we keep following the integrationist scholars and groups we will reap what we sow. Islam and the Khilafah is the only solution.
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