Freemixing on Ummah forums

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

As a member of this forum I have to say I am concerned with the amount of casual chit-chat and outright gossip that goes on between males and females.

Free-mixing is forbidden in Islam. Muslims males do not joke, laugh and talk about personal things in front of sisters, that does not happen, however with Internet forums, the World has ‘shrunk’, we are almost brought into one room, there are no barriers, we laugh, joke and talk absolute nonsense in a mixed environment. In the real World, this would be blatant and people would be wary of it, they would avoid it as our religion condemns it. However with forums, the talk between brothers is open to the sisters, the private talk between sisters is made open, brothers can read them and that is wrong. Shaytaan is playing tricks with us.

I believe this is a major issue, and I believe the moderators should take steps to limit the talk between males and females. Private discussions between brothers, should take place within a section only for males, personal posts would be fine, it could be moderated by a senior male moderator. Sisters would have their own section, personal posts would be fine, and it would be moderated by a senior female moderator. This would mean the ‘General’ and ‘Lifestyle’ sections would no longer be necessary (this is where most of the chit-chat occurs), they would be broken up between the male and female sections. Discourse within these sections would flow more freely and there will be no sin, there will be no loss of content as the same topics will be covered but it will be segregated. On other Islamic forums I know, the interaction between the sexes is restricted, banter and chit-chat it is not tolerated at all.

I am not trying to condemn or attack anyone, I don't blame anyone for what is happening now, however I believe it is important for me to raise this issue. I see sin everywhere in the West, free-mixing, forbidden glances, illicit relations, Astagfirullah, when reflecting, I believe the same thing is happening to a lesser degree on this very forum. Even with avatars, the use of masculine avatars for males and feminine ones for females may also be wrong, maybe we should use avatars that are ‘neutral’. I’ll tell you straight, I believe I’ve said things that I shouldn’t have said, I shouldn’t have my current avatar, I should have avoided certain threads, I have recognised that, some of the posts in this thread (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116032&highlight=segregation) have struck my heart and filled me with shame.

I believe taking all these steps will help improve this forum, help in avoiding sin and truly bring out our Islamic identity. I am busy at the moment, but I am free in the summer but I’m sure some brothers and sisters can really take charge of this and make some positive changes.

I was thinking, if I had a wife, would I be happy with her posting on this forum? Being brutally honest, the answer is no. If I had a younger sister would I be happy for her to be on this forum, again the answer is no. I ask the brothers here, how would you feel? would you be happy?

InshAllah, lets take action now.

Forgive me for any mistakes.

Your brother in Islam.

[.: Anna :.]

We do already have separate sisters and brothers forums.
If you see any posts in general and lifestyle which are not appropriate can you be specific and direct us to that link in order 2 check it out insha allah.
As for avatars I feel this is not really an issue, its not like someone has a picture of themself in their avatar?? Like why do you feel you should not have your avatar brother, its a red circle with Allah and Mohammad written on it... how is this a problem?? :confused:

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

We do already have separate sisters and brothers forums.
If you see any posts in general and lifestyle which are not appropriate can you be specific and direct us to that link in order 2 check it out insha allah.
As for avatars I feel this is not really an issue, its not like someone has a picture of themself in their avatar?? Like why do you feel you should not have your avatar brother, its a red circle with Allah and Mohammad written on it... how is this a problem?? :confused:

Yes, I know that. From what I've read, the brothers section is pretty much dead, so it would seem as though its not really working. Alot of the chit-chat is going on in the 'General' and 'Lifestyle' sections, alot of these threads should be placed within private forums. My concern is about free-mixing in general, not just individual threads.

Regarding my avatar, I got rid of my old one, this new one is fine.

[bint]

the ladies section is buzzin...

u cant determine what a person is..not behind a screen..for all we know he cud be some buddhi..and she cud be some little boy kid..

it was drive non-muslims away from the forums..

no proper debates wud take place..ie gender debates :1popcorn:

[anti-minger]

jazakallahu khair

very much needed advice. i have said this also and a few get so offended by it *shrugs*

btw be warned you wil get neg rep 'cus pple on here don't like it when someone says 'you guys free mix too much'

[bint]

u wont get neg reps from me. :)

and whoever does give negreps..have issues..

[anti-minger]

As a member of this forum I have to say I am concerned with the amount of casual chit-chat and outright gossip that goes on between males and females.

Free-mixing is forbidden in Islam. Muslims males do not joke, laugh and talk about personal things in front of sisters, that does not happen, however with Internet forums, the World has ‘shrunk’, we are almost brought into one room, there are no barriers, we laugh, joke and talk absolute nonsense in a mixed environment. In the real World, this would be blatant and people would be wary of it, they would avoid it as our religion condemns it. However with forums, the talk between brothers is open to the sisters, the private talk between sisters is made open, brothers can read them and that is wrong. Shaytaan is playing tricks with us.

I believe this is a major issue, and I believe the moderators should take steps to limit the talk between males and females. Private discussions between brothers, should take place within a section only for males, personal posts would be fine, it could be moderated by a senior male moderator. Sisters would have their own section, personal posts would be fine, and it would be moderated by a senior female moderator. This would mean the ‘General’ and ‘Lifestyle’ sections would no longer be necessary (this is where most of the chit-chat occurs), they would be broken up between the male and female sections. Discourse within these sections would flow more freely and there will be no sin, there will be no loss of content as the same topics will be covered but it will be segregated. On other Islamic forums I know, the interaction between the sexes is restricted, banter and chit-chat it is not tolerated at all.

I am not trying to condemn or attack anyone, I don't blame anyone for what is happening now, however I believe it is important for me to raise this issue. I see sin everywhere in the West, free-mixing, forbidden glances, illicit relations, Astagfirullah, when reflecting, I believe the same thing is happening to a lesser degree on this very forum. Even with avatars, the use of masculine avatars for males and feminine ones for females may also be wrong, maybe we should use avatars that are ‘neutral’. I’ll tell you straight, I believe I’ve said things that I shouldn’t have said, I shouldn’t have my current avatar, I should have avoided certain threads, I have recognised that, some of the posts in this thread (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116032&highlight=segregation) have struck my heart and filled me with shame.

I believe taking all these steps will help improve this forum, help in avoiding sin and truly bring out our Islamic identity. I am busy at the moment, but I am free in the summer but I’m sure some brothers and sisters can really take charge of this and make some positive changes.

I was thinking, if I had a wife, would I be happy with her posting on this forum? Being brutally honest, the answer is no. If I had a younger sister would I be happy for her to be on this forum, again the answer is no. I ask the brothers here, how would you feel? would you be happy?

InshAllah, lets take action now.

Forgive me for any mistakes.

Your brother in Islam.

i wouldnt even wnat my husband to come on this forum.

but he hates forums alhamdulilah

:up: :D etc to the opposite gender should be banned

aye na'aam

[Ignatius F. Peace]

How long has this forum been up?

[Raggy Doll]

which other forums you talking about? where the free mixing is down to a minumum?

:jkk: for the nasihah

[.: Anna :.]

We did explain this before... if we have just segregated section only, then we have to basically kick out many people from the forum because we don't allow just anyone into the segregated areas, rather we have a strict verification process in place.
If brothers section is dead I don't know, but sisters one is not and never has been... maybe brothers should take responsibility and liven their place up if its not used enough.
Issues such as "emoticons should be banned" have been covered many times, and admin is not on the opinion that we need to ban it. Something like the :love: :inlove: ;) to opposite gender we would pick up on and tell those people. A simple :) or :up: is not an issue.
Again as bint mentioned... it is also a dawa minded forum, we are open to non muslims. This can not work with out having a mixed area for that to take place.
If you're looking for a forum which is muslim only and one gender only... there are such forums around, but ummah.com is something slightly different. I dont mean that we allow people to just chat unnecessarily with opposite sex, but for some purposes of the forum mixed area is needed, and people need to conduct themselves appropriately. If someone feels that they can not, they better not come on the forum. If someone feels specific thread is problematic in terms of free mixing too much, then give us the specific example. It's difficult for us to implement your suggestions when people just come and say "split the whole board in two, bros and sis area only" when that is totally impractical. Then when we ask you to use help desk and show us threads we need to look at, or specific posts... you never do.

[Kal-El]

Sis Anna, I think you should create a closed-thread on this matter and explain it in detail to all those interested because, yea, it does seem we all keep repeating ourselves time and time again.

[zay_1982]

Yes, I know that. From what I've read, the brothers section is pretty much dead, so it would seem as though its not really working. Alot of the chit-chat is going on in the 'General' and 'Lifestyle' sections, alot of these threads should be placed within private forums. My concern is about free-mixing in general, not just individual threads.

Regarding my avatar, I got rid of my old one, this new one is fine.

asalamaualykum brother i'm not trying to be rude but if you have a big problem with people sharing their views or talking to each other then what are you doing here your self...? should u not be in the brothers room only inshallah...?


and can the admins please make or change the forums... and make it strictly for brothers separate and sisters separate?

i don't think so becz this is the net not matter what we do to operate people they will still find a way to free mix.

i can understand your concern.

[.: Anna :.]

sis zay he might not have bro access yet?

[Omar]

asalamaualykum brother i'm not trying to be rude but if you have a big problem with people sharing their views or talking to each other then what are you doing here your self...? should u not be in the brothers room only inshallah...?


and can the admins please make or change the forums... and make it strictly for brothers separate and sisters separate?

i don't think so becz this is the net not matter what we do to operate people they will still find a way to free mix.

i can understand your concern.

nd its not bout sharing views he has an issue with tis more about the idle talk i fink

[As-Sajdah]

JazakAllahu Khair, this was a good reminder for myself.

We need to try and conduct ourselves in a more responsible manner both with our own gender and especially the other insha'Allah, and like sis Anna said, if we feel we literally cant its better for us not to be here in the first place.

I knw tht via this forum there has been Fitan caused, but we have to thnk whether its the forum's fault for facilitating a way to the fitnah, the individuals fault for engaging in it, or both hmmm :scratch:

[heaven2002]

[QUOTE=Abu_Mohammad_21;1745583]As a member of this forum I have to say I am concerned with the amount of casual chit-chat and outright gossip that goes on between males and females.

Free-mixing is forbidden in Islam. Muslims males do not joke, laugh and talk about personal things in front of sisters, that does not happen, however with Internet forums, the World has ‘shrunk’, we are almost brought into one room, there are no barriers, we laugh, joke and talk absolute nonsense in a mixed environment.

QUOTE]

good reminder for everyone
personally i find the avatars some people use unislamic, as they have images of people or people from opposite gender
it would be nice if people stuck to islamic images for their avatars

[.: Anna :.]

Again with the avatars if you have specific ones in mind you can let us know. Before when we receive a lot of complaints on certain peoples avatars we tell them to change it

[insomniac]

i wouldnt even wnat my husband to come on this forum.

but he hates forums alhamdulilah

:up: :D etc to the opposite gender should be banned

aye na'aam

but then why are you on the forum, if you don't want your husband on here? :rubeyes:

[Kal-El]

Why would you forbid your husband from coming here :rubeyes: what are you implying

[Amatul-Gaffaar]

:start:
:salams

Brothers and Sisters,

I honestly believe that the nasiha given by Abu Mohammad was so badly needed. The thing to do now would be for all those who for some reason or other may have felt it to be unnecessary or simply don’t understand the fuss…really try to be as objective as possible. Be an outsider looking in!

At times when we indulge in things, we begin to make allowances for ourselves and the more we do them, the tolerance level will decrease and the more excuses we try to find to somehow justify what we do.

I’ll be completely honest, I have seen some things on this forum that I was an still am truly amazed at. The way in which a number of bro/sis’s are very blasé about idle chat is alarming :sub: cause you know you wouldn’t act/ talk in the way you do on the forum in public.

This is my first post on this forum, reason being that I was afraid of becoming apart of something which I would otherwise have not been in agreement with. It is an obligation on us all to enjoin in the good and forbid what is evil. The sad thing is that I’m sure the intentions of this forum were good (and there is proof of that) but the negative aspects I feel at the moment outweigh the positive.

p.s

Admins & Mods, you have these positions for a reason, create order where it lacks and maybe if people see you do that (not that I’m saying you don’t at all!) they will be compelled insha’Allah to think first before they tap away on that keyboard!

:jkk:
:wswrwb:

[insomniac]

jazakallahu khair

very much needed advice. i have said this also and a few get so offended by it *shrugs*

btw be warned you wil get neg rep 'cus pple on here don't like it when someone says 'you guys free mix too much'

when accusations start being spread, then neg reps are in order :rolleyes:

[insomniac]

:start:
:salams

Brothers and Sisters,

I honestly believe that the nasiha given by Abu Mohammad was so badly needed. The thing to do now would be for all those who for some reason or other may have felt it to be unnecessary or simply don’t understand the fuss…really try to be as objective as possible. Be an outsider looking in!

At times when we indulge in things, we begin to make allowances for ourselves and the more we do them, the tolerance level will decrease and the more excuses we try to find to somehow justify what we do.

I’ll be completely honest, I have seen some things on this forum that I was an still am truly amazed at. The way in which a number of bro/sis’s are very blasé about idle chat is alarming :sub: cause you know you wouldn’t act/ talk in the way you do on the forum in public.

This is my first post on this forum, reason being that I was afraid of becoming apart of something which I would otherwise have not been in agreement with. It is an obligation on us all to enjoin in the good and forbid what is evil. The sad thing is that I’m sure the intentions of this forum were good (and there is proof of that) but the negative aspects I feel at the moment outweigh the positive.

p.s

Admins & Mods, you have these positions for a reason, create order where it lacks and maybe if people see you do that (not that I’m saying you don’t at all!) they will be compelled insha’Allah to think first before they tap away on that keyboard!

:jkk:
:wswrwb:



:jkk: bro, subhanAllah you speak the truth.

May Allah swt guard us from such fitnah. Ameen

[Lambo5688]

The bro's chat is going along just fine. Its not dead.

[Kal-El]

Lol, saved our honour

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

u cant determine what a person is..not behind a screen..for all we know he cud be some buddhi..and she cud be some little boy kid..

That is a minor drawback. Having a proper system in place would make it very hard for them, alot harder than it is now.

it was drive non-muslims away from the forums..

Non-Muslims should know that Muslim men and women don't joke around with each other, it might happen here but it doesn't happen in real life. Why present a distorted view to them?

no proper debates wud take place..ie gender debates :1popcorn:

What debates are you talking about?

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

which other forums you talking about? where the free mixing is down to a minumum?

:jkk: for the nasihah

sunniforum.com is a good example.

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

We did explain this before... if we have just segregated section only, then we have to basically kick out many people from the forum because we don't allow just anyone into the segregated areas, rather we have a strict verification process in place.
If brothers section is dead I don't know, but sisters one is not and never has been... maybe brothers should take responsibility and liven their place up if its not used enough.
Issues such as "emoticons should be banned" have been covered many times, and admin is not on the opinion that we need to ban it. Something like the :love: :inlove: ;) to opposite gender we would pick up on and tell those people. A simple :) or :up: is not an issue.
Again as bint mentioned... it is also a dawa minded forum, we are open to non muslims. This can not work with out having a mixed area for that to take place.
If you're looking for a forum which is muslim only and one gender only... there are such forums around, but ummah.com is something slightly different. I dont mean that we allow people to just chat unnecessarily with opposite sex, but for some purposes of the forum mixed area is needed, and people need to conduct themselves appropriately. If someone feels that they can not, they better not come on the forum. If someone feels specific thread is problematic in terms of free mixing too much, then give us the specific example. It's difficult for us to implement your suggestions when people just come and say "split the whole board in two, bros and sis area only" when that is totally impractical. Then when we ask you to use help desk and show us threads we need to look at, or specific posts... you never do.

I understand what you're saying.

Then when we ask you to use help desk and show us threads we need to look at, or specific posts... you never do.

Okay. Why don't the moderators make an announcement stating that casual chat, pointless banter between males and females is no longer permissible and will be dealt with harshly. That should be the first step and it would help alot. I am not on this forum alot, I cannot go through every thread and keep a look out, it has to start from the top and work its way down, I'm sure once the mods make it clear, the senior posters will take notice and the atmosphere on the forums will change for the better. Everyone on this forum would become part of the effort. Those that come here just to talk to the opposite sex will have no air to breathe.

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

Sis Anna, I think you should create a closed-thread on this matter and explain it in detail to all those interested because, yea, it does seem we all keep repeating ourselves time and time again.

Weren’t you the one that told me to make a separate thread (this thread)?

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

asalamaualykum brother i'm not trying to be rude but if you have a big problem with people sharing their views or talking to each other then what are you doing here your self...? should u not be in the brothers room only inshallah...?

I have no problem with Muslim males and females discussing Islam, lectures, politics, World/current affairs, discussing problems, looking for answers etc. I think that is great, it has a purpose.

What I'm opposed to is brothers and sisters talking absolute nonsense to eachother, making personal posts, boys-girls developing friendships etc. That is wrong. Modesty is very important in Islam.

[Ruprecht]

Non-Muslims should know that Muslim men and women don't joke around with each other, it might happen here but it doesn't happen in real life. Why present a distorted view to them?

Humour between men and women is unislamic?

That explains a few things...

[nevadajacks]

Non-Muslims should know that Muslim men and women don't joke around with each other, it might happen here but it doesn't happen in real life. Why present a distorted view to them?

?
You are joking aren't you? I know muslim men and women and they all have a sense of humour. Except for the guy at the carwash close to us. He has no sense of humour, that is why we stopped going there. We used to refer to him lovingly as the terrorist. Finally my wife got sick of his scowl look.

[nevadajacks]

u wont get neg reps from me. :)

and whoever does give negreps..have issues..

LOL. There are a lot of muslims who have issues it appears.

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

You are joking aren't you? I know muslim men and women and they all have a sense of humour. Except for the guy at the carwash close to us. He has no sense of humour, that is why we stopped going there. We used to refer to him lovingly as the terrorist. Finally my wife got sick of his scowl look.

You misunderstood the post. Of course Muslims have a sense of humour, may I add that British people in general (British Muslims included) have the best sense of humour. As Muslims though, boys don’t joke around with girls, we believe in segregation. Conduct between boys and girls has to be modest.

[.: Anna :.]

I understand what you're saying.



Okay. Why don't the moderators make an announcement stating that casual chat, pointless banter between males and females is no longer permissible and will be dealt with harshly. That should be the first step and it would help alot. I am not on this forum alot, I cannot go through every thread and keep a look out, it has to start from the top and work its way down, I'm sure once the mods make it clear, the senior posters will take notice and the atmosphere on the forums will change for the better. Everyone on this forum would become part of the effort. Those that come here just to talk to the opposite sex will have no air to breathe.

It is already supposed to be clear. Like we never had a policy of allowing this in the first place, but insha allah we could do a reminder about it.
We have policy of closing the "random thread"s and stuff, thats supposed to give this message of not idle talking and joking in mixed area. We made the people take a separate random thread for bros and sis in their areas, so we are trying with that :)

[uhkt_al'muminun]

:jkk: bro, subhanAllah you speak the truth.

May Allah swt guard us from such fitnah. Ameen

its a sister never the less Ameen.
Mash'Allah this reminder/nasiha was needed and all praises due to Allah

[Muhammad2]

I think we should have strict segregation of men and women everywhere.

Of course, that'd leave a lot of us male reverts facing a lifetime of celibacy. But, you got to break eggs to make an omelette ;)

[sajid]

Saying u can have a forum that can be completely avoided of freemixing is flawed none exist and it can never exist this is the internet and anything goes here

at the end of the day its upto people to watch themselves when talking

the platform is here for its purpose how people use it its upto them

same like a telephone u can use it to saves a person life and other things but at the same time u can use it to stalk and harass people

the forum is a tool how one utilises it is upto the invidual

[Reema]

Saying u can have a forum that can be completely avoided of freemixing is flawed none exist and it can never exist this is the internet and anything goes here

at the end of the day its upto people to watch themselves when talking

the platform is here for its purpose how people use it its upto them

same like a telephone u can use it to saves a person life and other things but at the same time u can use it to stalk and harass people

the forum is a tool how one utilises it is upto the invidual

My thoughts exactly :up: :p

[Amatul-Rahmaan]

Saying u can have a forum that can be completely avoided of freemixing is flawed none exist and it can never exist this is the internet and anything goes here

at the end of the day its upto people to watch themselves when talking

the platform is here for its purpose how people use it its upto them

same like a telephone u can use it to saves a person life and other things but at the same time u can use it to stalk and harass people

the forum is a tool how one utilises it is upto the invidual

but is it not a command from Allah swt for us to enjoin the good and forbid the evil, surely leaving people to their own devices is not fulfilling this command...

[Kal-El]

I think what Sajjid is humbly saying is, he can't do anything about it even if he wanted to.

[.: Anna :.]

we enjoin the good and forbid the evil by placing rules, deleting peoples off topic posts, removing "random thread" and the likes, yet still people have a certain amount of responsibility for their own actions. if we miss something, and someone says something wrong we are trying but also they have 2 take their responsibility

[ghanamuslima]

jazak sis i have to say though sometimes it's to tell who's who just by the ids, it's only since i gained access to the sisters forums that i realised which gender certain people belonged to.:)

[Niqaabi]

Tv, phones, internet they are like knives. You can be wise and use it properly by doing good things with it, or be bad and use it to do bad things like killing people.

Ummah.com does have its idle threads as many other forums do, but its not as excessive and when there is a lot of idleness here the mods pick up on it and remove/delete/close these threads. Random thread is no more and many of us sisters (not gna speak for the bros) that seem like ":eek: where have you been havent seen you in ages" are about quite a lot but choose to interact in the sisters area out of out own choice, like some sisters choose to interact more in comparative religion etc.

[Hassan Aidarus]

http://www.knowledgeaudio.co.uk/Literature/interaction%20between%20men%20and%20women.htm

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

http://www.knowledgeaudio.co.uk/Literature/interaction%20between%20men%20and%20women.htm

Brother, that is spot on.

There are many interactive forums on the Internet, including chat sites and online communities. We need to address the critical question of how Muslim men and women should conduct themselves when they come into contact with one another while participating in these forums. Muslim men and women when interacting with one another on the Internet should observe the following guidelines:

1. Never display photographs under any circumstances.
To start with, photographs are simply not necessary. The written word is more than sufficient. We must also appreciate how photographs can become a great opportunity for Satan to tempt people and make their foul deeds seem fair to them. Some people might consider such caution misplaced. However, those who understand how people are seduced and tempted and who have experience in dealing with these problems, know that nothing is far-fetched. Moreover, some people who have a sickness in their hearts manage to deceive themselves and others that something which is completely wrong is instead something that is good and that is motivated by the sincerest and noblest intentions.

2. Use typing and avoid audible means of communication.
If, for some reason, using audible media becomes necessary, then we must adhere to Allah's command: "Be not too complaisant of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire; but speak a speech that is just." [Sûrah al-Ahzâb:32] This verse was revealed concerning the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him). If this was the case for them, we can appreciate how much more it must apply to us. Moreover, that was during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) while we are living in the age of permissiveness and promiscuity.

3. Maintain a serious tone and focus in conversation.
We must not get involved in talking at length about things that are unnecessary and unjustified. In truth, many people get a thrill out of merely speaking with the opposite sex, regardless of what the subject might be. Some men just like to hear a pretty voice. Likewise, since women are indeed the full sisters of men, they also find pleasure in speaking with men. Our tone should be serious. We should avoid all that is superfluous and frivolous.

4. Remain vigilant at all times.
Those who we meet on the Internet are, for the most part, apparitions. Men come online posturing as women and women often misrepresent themselves as men. Then, there are so many things we do not know about the other person. What is his ideology? What is his background? What country is he from? What is his line of work? What are his real intentions? All of these things are unknown.

I wish to call the attention of our honored sisters to the dangers that experience has shown us to be ever present in these situations. Many young women are quick to believe what others tell them and are very susceptible to sweet words. Such people are easy victims for the predator who lays out his trap. One moment, he is a sincere advisor, another the victim crying out for someone to save him, then he is the lonely man looking for someone with whom to share the rest of his life, the next moment he is the sick man looking for a cure…

5. Muslim women who work with the Internet should keep in close contact with one another.
They need to develop strong channels of communication so they can lend a degree of support to each other in this important and possibly dangerous field of endeavor. They need to cooperate closely and share their experiences and expertise. A person standing alone is weak, but standing with others she is strong. Allah says: "By time! Surely the human being is at loss. Except for those who have faith and do righteous deeds and exhort one another to truth and exhort one another to patience." [Sûrah al-`Asr]

Abû Mulaykah al-Dârimî narrates: "It was the practice among the Prophet's Companions, that if two of them met, they would not depart from one another without one of them reading Sûrah al-`Asr to the other. Then one of them would greet the other with peace." I also advise our Muslim sisters to focus most of their attention and their efforts on calling other women to Islam and enjoining them to righteousness. They should use this valuable medium to assist and serve their sisters and to reform them. This should be done indirectly, subtly, and with wisdom. Too direct an approach, when giving advice, often causes the other party to become angry, confrontational, and obstinate. This is because the person giving advice comes off as seeming high-handed and arrogant, while the one being advised feels shamed and belittled. Therefore, be gentle in your choice of words, good-natured, attentive, and forbearing. This makes the receiving party more conductive to receiving your advice and less likely to spurn it.

http://www.knowledgeaudio.co.uk/Literature/interaction%20between%20men%20and%20women.htm

[Abu_Mohammad_21]

Bump!

[UZMA KHALID]

salam brother

I can see this going on, i think we all should be more careful :rubeyes:



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