Which kind of wife would you like?

[E.W-Izzi]

In the name of Allah most Gracious Most Merciful.

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I bear witness that there is no deity other than Allah
and that Muhammad is his servant and Messenger.

Brothers, I want to discuss this topic as I am thinking of getting married. I am not too sure which kind of wife I am after. I have been looking around alhamdulilah a few have raised my passions. I am not too sure about their personality, however I have been told one of them is a fundamentalist Muslim subhanallah. However I am not to sure how life would be like with one.

So am polling it.

[P3X-018]

:salams

How do you define a fundamentalist? By conservative you mean like a moderate muslim?
I wouldn't go after the liberal, since by being liberal you oppose islam.
Choose what you consider as a good muslim with taqwa :up:
InshaAllah you'll find a good person.

[E.W-Izzi]

:salams

How do you define a fundamentalist? By conservative you mean like a moderate muslim?
I wouldn't go after the liberal, since by being liberal you oppose islam.
Choose what you consider as a good muslim with taqwa :up:
InshaAllah you'll find a good person.

Peace.

I've applied it in the traditional western sense. You know the fundamentalist = sister in the burka with the black gloves. The conservative = sister with the hijab. The liberal = sister with no Hijab (probably) a hadith rejecter too.

[Abu Mus'ab]

*cough* is this question necassary?

Anyway i voted for the first one *Roll eyes*

[Abu Mus'ab]

Peace.

I've applied it in the traditional western sense. You know the fundamentalist = sister in the burka with the black gloves. The conservative = sister with the hijab. The liberal = sister with no Hijab (probably) a hadith rejecter too.
I don't see why you'd even consider a liberal.

it's not permissable to marry zanadiqah, and hadith rejectors are zanadiqah.

[E.W-Izzi]

*cough* is this question necassary?

Anyway i voted for the first one *Roll eyes*

Salaam, brother. Its probably totally useless, but then again I really actually need some advice.

Brother, you would not happen to know if I can read something? like a duwah?

[P3X-018]

Peace.

I've applied it in the traditional western sense. You know the fundamentalist = sister in the burka with the black gloves. The conservative = sister with the hijab. The liberal = sister with no Hijab (probably) a hadith rejecter too.

In that case I wouldn't mind if it where a "fundamentalist" or a "conservative", as long as they have taqwa and knowledge about islam (and probably also prefer someone who has an education and is not ignorant).
Ofcourse you also need to know the person, Hijab is the only thing.

[Niqaabi]

fundamentalist as all muslims have to follow the fundamentals of islam.

[E.W-Izzi]

I don't see why you'd even consider a liberal.

it's not permissable to marry zanadiqah, and hadith rejectors are zanadiqah.

Indeed brother, I would not actually go for a liberal, I just wanted to add some variety to the poll.

[Quest]

Asalama alaykum

"The prophet scw was more conservative then the 'conservative muslim'
and more liberal then the 'liberal muslim' " Anwar al awlaki

of course the akii isnt talking of conservative and liberal in the sense we understand it folks.

in terms of how we understand it, pick the 'fundamentalist'
this word really means shes that uktii holding on 2 her diin with her molar teeth.

p.s not all fundies wear niqaab. but yes they sure plan 2 soon enough.

:) barakallahu feek

[Peacenik]

Where's the 'moderate' option ?

(as the Prophet (saw) said ).

:)

[E.W-Izzi]

fundamentalist as all muslims have to follow the fundamentals of islam.

Peace. Sister, the reality is not all Muslims actually follow the fundamentals.

For example, I want to PC world to buy a new computer, and I needed some assistance. And there was a female working there I thought I hope she doesn't come and ask me. At the time I thought she was a pagan (Hindu) however she did come over (maybe its the beard) and I read her name tag and it was a Muslim name and I actually found her behavior to be quite disgraceful. She was actually flirting with me, until I told her "Could you please, be quick I am getting late for salat" then she backed off. I still felt like reprimanding her though.

[E.W-Izzi]

Someone actually voted liberal! lol

[Abu Mus'ab]

Salaam, brother. Its probably totally useless, but then again I really actually need some advice.

Brother, you would not happen to know if I can read something? like a duwah?
Hmm i don't know any dua's for marriage, i think someone else might know.

[.: Anna :.]

Its quite a weird poll. Its not beneficial to make catogories like "fundamentalist" "conservative" etc... and to be honest i would not know what is the difference between these 2 until you defined it (Also i find the definition weird, why not then just say munaqaba or muhajaba if this is all you are judging by???)
Its quite clear, we should seek a spouse who fears Allah and observes Islam properly. These labels of conservative, moderate, liberal, fundamental... they serve no purpose

[Abu Mus'ab]

Someone actually voted liberal! lol
i noticed, you should have made it a public poll so people can see who voted for what.

[Quest]

Where's the 'moderate' option ?

(as the Prophet (saw) said ).

:)

and do u think he scws suggestion is followed by so called moderates today?

[P3X-018]

i noticed, you should have made it a public poll so people can see who voted for what.

:rotfl:

Now that I think about it, the westeren definition of a "fundamentalist" is one who pratices the fundamentals of islam, which is what every muslim should, which is what the sister appointed to earlier.

[E.W-Izzi]

Its quite a weird poll. Its not beneficial to make catogories like "fundamentalist" "conservative" etc... and to be honest i would not know what is the difference between these 2 until you defined it (Also i find the definition weird, why not then just say munaqaba or muhajaba if this is all you are judging by???)
Its quite clear, we should seek a spouse who fears Allah and observes Islam properly. These labels of conservative, moderate, liberal, fundamental... they serve no purpose


Salaam. Sister, I don't agree. In my book, if you're not a fundamentalist Muslim then you're a bad Muslim. Like the sister said you need to follow the fundamentals of Islam.

I guess I've got myself to want a fundamentalist Muslim wife then. :inlove:

[.: Anna :.]

And on the same grounds if your not a conservative muslim then you are not conserving the sunnah in ur life and etc etc... it could be said for many things.
yet we have the labels Muslim, Mu'min... we dont need to add these extra words on the front and make up our own catogories. We already have catogories, muslim munafiq kafir etc.... we dont need these new ones, especially when these terms are actually coined by the non muslim media on the whole.
Its a joke :rolleyes:

[heaven2002]

i dont understand why muslims themselves wud use terms like 'fundamentalists' and 'conservative'
marry someone with piety

[cl@rity]

fundamentalist hands down! Meaning one folowing the fundamentals of Islam very closely. This includes ,hijab, abayah, niqab and gloves. [My view]

[Zesty]

As-salamu-alaikum

Im not sure this poll is correct. According to whose definition do we mean "fundamentalist," "conservative.."etc?
Shouldn't we look for someone who has a pure heart, fears Allah and someone who you can learn, grow and inshaAllah become a better muslim with?

You might have a female who wear full jilbaab, niqaab the works- who says she has a pure heart or good intentions etc? You might get a female who wears just the headscarf (according to your definition this = conservative) who may be a very pious person mashaAllah, who fears Allah and just wants to marry someone who will inshaAllah encourage her to better herself? (The same goes for brothers and vice versa situation).

Anyway, bottom line is-it is your decision however you make it and however you come to the conclusions of one being a fundamentalist, a conservative or a liberal. INshaAllah let it not become a judging game (only Allah can measure someones Imaan).
InshaAllah may you find a sister who is right for you, who has piety, love for Allah, fear of Allah and someone you can build on your deen with. Ameen :)

[ur_yusra]

:scratch:..

All this fundementalism etc is something the kuffar have come up with really..

[Medievalist]

Brother, you would not happen to know if I can read something? like a duwah?


although the question was not addressed to me . . .


daily recitation of 500 darud shareefs has been proven to be beneficial.

[Abu Mus'ab]

:scratch:..

All this fundementalism etc is something the kuffar have come up with really..
Yeah we know *Roll Eyes*

but some people still use it as examples.

[Kal-El]

Everyone has their own interpretation of the words, like me. And no I won't say what it is

[summer786]

can sisters vote ??

[Kubs]

can sisters vote ??

Maybe we should have a 'what kind of husband would you like' thread. :up:

[summer786]

yeh thats what i meant....or we could answer 'what kind of wife you would like to be'

i just realised how i sounded :embar: :embar:

[RashidD]

Fundamentalist muslim wife InshaAllah...

[alld]

Source:www.irf.net

This question is often hurled at Muslims, either directly or indirectly, during any discussion on religion or world affairs. Muslim stereotypes are perpetuated in every form of the media accompanied by gross misinformation about Islam and Muslims. In fact, such misinformation and false propaganda often leads to discrimination and acts of violence against Muslims. A case in point is the anti-Muslim campaign in the American media following the Oklahoma bomb blast, where the press was quick to declare a 'Middle Eastern conspiracy' behind the attack. The culprit was later identified as a soldier from the American Armed Forces.

Let us analyze this allegation of 'fundamentalism' and 'terrorism':

1. Definition of the word 'fundamentalist'

A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practise the fundamentals of medicine. In other words, he should be a fundamentalist in the field of medicine. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of mathematics. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of mathematics. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of science. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science.

2. Not all 'fundamentalists' are the same

One cannot paint all fundamentalists with the same brush. One cannot categorize all fundamentalists as either good or bad. Such a categorization of any fundamentalist will depend upon the field or activity in which he is a fundamentalist. A fundamentalist robber or thief causes harm to society and is therefore undesirable. A fundamentalist doctor, on the other hand, benefits society and earns much respect.

3. I am proud to be a Muslim fundamentalist

I am a fundamentalist Muslim who, by the grace of Allah, knows, follows and strives to practise the fundamentals of Islam. A true Muslim does not shy away from being a fundamentalist. I am proud to be a fundamentalist Muslim because, I know that the fundamentals of Islam are beneficial to humanity and the whole world. There is not a single fundamental of Islam that causes harm or is against the interests of the human race as a whole. Many people harbour misconceptions about Islam and consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. If one critically analyzes the teachings of Islam with an open mind, one cannot escape the fact that Islam is full of benefits both at the individual and collective levels.

4. Dictionary meaning of the word 'fundamentalist'

According to Webster's dictionary 'fundamentalism' was a movement in American Protestanism that arose in the earlier part of the 20th century. It was a reaction to modernism, and stressed the infallibility of the Bible, not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record. It stressed on belief in the Bible as the literal word of God. Thus fundamentalism was a word initially used for a group of Christians who believed that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without any errors and mistakes.

According to the Oxford dictionary 'fundamentalism' means 'strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam'.

Today the moment a person uses the word fundamentalist he thinks of a Muslim who is a terrorist.

5. Every Muslim should be a terrorist

Every Muslim should be a terrorist. A terrorist is a person who causes terror. The moment a robber sees a policeman he is terrified. A policeman is a terrorist for the robber. Similarly every Muslim should be a terrorist for the antisocial elements of society, such as thieves, dacoits and rapists. Whenever such an anti-social element sees a Muslim, he should be terrified. It is true that the word 'terrorist' is generally used for a person who causes terror among the common people. But a true Muslim should only be a terrorist to selective people i.e. anti-social elements, and not to the common innocent people. In fact a Muslim should be a source of peace for innocent people.

6. Different labels given to the same individual for the same action, i.e. 'terrorist' and 'patriot'

Before India achieved independence from British rule, some freedom fighters of India who did not subscribe to non-violence were labeled as terrorists by the British government. The same individuals have been lauded by Indians for the same activities and hailed as 'patriots'. Thus two different labels have been given to the same people for the same set of actions. One is calling him a terrorist while the other is calling him a patriot. Those who believed that Britain had a right to rule over India called these people terrorists, while those who were of the view that Britain had no right to rule India called them patriots and freedom fighters.

It is therefore important that before a person is judged, he is given a fair hearing. Both sides of the argument should be heard, the situation should be analyzed, and the reason and the intention of the person should be taken into account, and then the person can be judged accordingly.

7. Islam means peace

Islam is derived from the word 'salaam' which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world.

Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society

[alld]

fundamentalist :up:

[Bint Yusuf]

Salaam

Yeh I don't quite understand the whole fundamentalist thing and to be honest isn't in my vocabulary:D

Anyways I'd say go for the muslimah in the abaya and gloves cause end of the day we should be following Islam the way it was delivered to us. We can't pick or choose what parts we follow and what parts we don't.

Also just wondered why do so many Muslims and non-Muslims think that for example a muslimah wearing an abaya and hijaab, prays 5+ a day etc happens to be extreme:rolleyes: Surely this is only the foundations of Islam and is actually quite scary that some people can't even follow this let alone anything else.

[Raziel]

fundamentalist as all Muslims have to follow the fundamentals of Islam.

Yeah we all aught to be Fundamentalists... :D

:jkk:

[Raziel]

i dont understand why Muslims themselves wud use terms like 'fundamentalists' and 'conservative'
marry someone with piety

a Fundamentalist is a person who stick's to the Fundamentals of whatever they believe in.

In this case we are Referring to Our Beliefs...

we all aught to be Fundamentalists...

a Person of Piety is a Fundamentalist, because he/she will not divert from the Fundamentals of their Faith...

Piety requires that a Person stick's to their Fundamentals of Faith.

Theres no Such thing as a Liberal Muslim, and I don't what people mean by Conservative Muslim...

these terms need to be defined clearly...

:jkk:

[*18B.L.U.E18*]

None Of The Above Options :d

[sajid]

:)

[Jam]

:salams

Inshallah I will marry a good muslim. Someone with love for Allah (swt) and for everything He loves. Without sounding difficult, I would not like to categorise her, but :insha: when the time comes, an Istikhara will suffice in helping me make this decision :)

:salams

[Raziel]

:salams

Inshallah I will marry a good muslim. Someone with love for Allah (swt) and for everything He loves. Without sounding difficult, I would not like to categorise her, but :insha: when the time comes, an Istikhara will suffice in helping me make this decision :)

:salams

:up:

[sunrise]

a Fundamentalist is a person who stick's to the Fundamentals of whatever they believe in.

In this case we are Referring to Our Beliefs...

we all aught to be Fundamentalists...

a Person of Piety is a Fundamentalist, because he/she will not divert from the Fundamentals of their Faith...

Piety requires that a Person stick's to their Fundamentals of Faith.

Theres no Such thing as a Liberal Muslim, and I don't what people mean by Conservative Muslim...

these terms need to be defined clearly...

:jkk:

:up:

[junaidb]

And on the same grounds if your not a conservative muslim then you are not conserving the sunnah in ur life and etc etc... it could be said for many things.
yet we have the labels Muslim, Mu'min... we dont need to add these extra words on the front and make up our own catogories. We already have catogories, muslim munafiq kafir etc.... we dont need these new ones, especially when these terms are actually coined by the non muslim media on the whole.
Its a joke :rolleyes:

agreed....:up: :up: :up:

[OBL]

A Muslim fundamentalist..:)

[junaidb]

If somone reads :lailah: then who are we to judge????


as long as sumone believes in :lailah: . then his/her afaiars are between him and Allah.....

i think that as long as she a muslim with good Islamic akhlaaq....i say :start: get married......

no need for lables.......thats just my thoughts...

[Al-ghurabah]

own up which three chose liberal???
any sane muslim male would want a practising muslimah not liberall one..

[Raziel]

own up which three chose liberal???
any sane muslim male would want a practising muslimah not liberall one..

It's probably the Non-Muslim members...

[miss-ali]

:scratch:...

[Raziel]

own up which three chose liberal???
any sane muslim male would want a practising muslimah not liberall one..

Can't argue with that...:D

Liberal are the ones who pick and chose, in other words Hypocrites, adding a liberal dose here and there when it suits them...

:jkk:

[abdul Mateen]

i chose liberal. the choices that we had can mean different things to most of us. i made mines based on my understanding of them. to me the word "liberal" is a term that best desrcibes my upbringing and the larger community where i'm from, which is why i identified with that term (liberal), from the choices that were given. i actually don't consider/label myself any of the three though. are all from many different places and we have different influences. i expect some differences. after reading the replies, it proves true that the choices can mean many different things to most of us. ALLAH (swt) is the best knower. true, any sane muslim wants a practising muslimah, and so do i (and i consider myself sane). i most definetly want a sister with taqwa who practices her deen though, inshallah!


ok, i "owned" up and I AM MUSLIM. who are the other two? FRONT and CENTER Brothers!

[PiElle]

If I am a guy, i would choose a wife with pleasant features and mind, actions and words consistently conscious for the sake of Allah.:D

C H A R A C T E R!?!

[ammarcool]

A Muslim Fundamentalist

[Redmist]

What kind of wife would i like?

One whos of pious character but not too strict either. Someone who you can go out in the world with, modern, you know what i mean!

[Raziel]

If I am a guy, i would choose a wife with pleasant features and mind, actions and words consistently conscious for the sake of Allah.:D

C H A R A C T E R!?!

Are you a Guy then? :o

or a Girl? :scratch:

[Suliman]

I couldn't see in the poll the section that says "One that can cook some damn fine food"

I'll wait until the error has been sorted out :up:

[Raziel]

I couldn't see in the poll the section that says "One that can cook some damn fine food"

I'll wait until the error has been sorted out :up:

:p

[zaki]

a practicing sister who is willing to help me as much as I can help her and we can have a good laugh :D thats all i could ask for :)