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noble
08-03-07, 12:02 PM
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Celebrate Birthdays?

The question is: Is it allowed for Muslims to celebrate birthdays?
Perhaps, if we elaborate on a few words it will give us the answer.

Muslim: (in general terms) a person who accepts Islam and Islam is
the way of life founded on the Quran and the authentic Sunnah
(exemplary practice of the prophet) that is perfect and complete and
needs no alternations and to make sure that these sources of Islam are
understood and practiced correctly a Muslim is to refer to scholars,
especially the first three generations, particularly the Companions.

Celebrate: Two of its definitions are: 1. to observe in some special
way (as merrymaking) and 2. to observe a special day or even (as a
holiday or anniversary) with festivities. [webster's new ideal
dictionary]

Birthday: the day or anniversary of ones birth. [ibid]

Since Islam is based on revelation [the Quran and the Sunnah] we
should see what revelations states: Anas imparted that when the
prophet (PBUH) came to Madinah the people had two days of holiday
celebrations. So he asked them about their significance and they
replied it was merriment from Jahiliyah. Then the prophet [PBUH]
rejoindered, "Allah has replaced them with something far much better:
Eid Ul-Adha and Eid Ul-Fitr. This hadith in itself is enough to answer
the question concerning Muslim celebrating Birthdays. However, some
Muslims asked for further evidence therefore we'll give some.

Precedents:

Allah told the prophet [PBUH} to say:

Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow
me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur'ân and the Sunnah),
Allâh will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allâh is
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Let us make note that Allah loving us is conditional. He only loves
us if we follow the Prophet [PBUH]; and if you do not follow the
prophet then you do not love Allah and He doesn't love you. As is
presently known, there is not place where it is recorded (not even
unauthentically) that the prophet [PBUH} celebrated birthdays. He did
not celebrate the birthday of Khadijah or Fatimah or Abu Bakr or Zayd
or his grandchildren, etc. So if he did not celebrate birthdays, why
should we?? [Makes you really think....what do we think ourselves
making stuff up and calling it good?? I was argueing with a friend
about this today....I said ok you want to have fun and eat cake and
gather with friends...do it once a month!! do it every now and
then....not on a specific day!! would it matter much...it's only for
fun....if you start saying it's cause my birthday then you are going
in a circle!]

The companions who are and for ever will be the best generation
throughout humanity due to faith, belief, piety, practice, sacrifices,
etc never celebrated anybody's birthday – not even the prophet's
birthday – and thi sis the man whom they fought for, killed close
relatives for, and died for. So it would have been nothing for them to
say "Oh Messenger of Allah, Happy Birthday!" The reason why they did
not do this could not have possibly been because it was not a part of
their culture. Before Islam, the Arabs appreciated any opportunity to
party. The companions did not celebrate birthdays due to their
knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of the guidance. We must emulate
them for Allah says:

"Whomever opposes/contradicts the Messenger after the Guidance has
been made clear and follows a way different than that of the
believers, I allow him to continue with what he has chosen and cast
him to Hell – an unfortunate circumstance." [O Allah protect us from
the Fire and reward us with Jannah Ameen!]

And non of the trustworthy scholars from the past or present who
follow the way of the righteous predecessors have condoned the
celebrating of any body's birthday.

"Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know" (Quran: 21: 7)

Based in Polytheism:

The celebration of birthdays is something that doesn't come from
Islam. It comes from Jahilayah (non-Islam: lit. Ignorance) and has
origins in Shirk. There were people who thought that the giving of
gifts to a person on one's birthday would prevent the Jin from
attaching the person. This is shirk in Roboobeeyah because it is
thinking that something other than Allah has authority in His dominion
to prevent harm and bestow benefit. The original purpose of the gifts
is no different than believe in charms and omens. The prophet said
"Know that if the whole world were to gather to benefit you, it would
only happen because Allah had it pre-ordained for you. Likewise if the
whole world were to gather to harm you, it will only happen because
Allah has it pre-ordained for you". Furthermore, the lighting of
candles came about because some people thought that they would take
one's dua' "Wishes" to Allah. This is shirk in Ulooheeyah because
Allah doesn't need intermediaries. [Does it remind you of
something....make a wish....blow the candle??? seems familiar!!]

Following and Imitating the Disbelievers and Being Different from Them

Birthday celebrations are observed around the world. This celebration
is done differently based on culture and/or geographics. For example,
in china they are celebrated every ten years while in the United
States they are celebrated every year. Unfortunately, we are following
the disbelievers. The prophet [PBUH] said, "You will follow the Sunnah
of the people before you, foot by foot, and inch by inch. So much so
that if they crawled into a lizard's hole you would do it also!!"
[Masha'Allah....I love this....I Wish I could do it and follow that
strictly] Wouldn't it be better to follow the prophet's Sunnah so that
Allah will love us? [Sure it would...come lets try our bests!]

The celebration of birthdays by Muslims – particularly that of the
Prophet's – is an imitation of the disbelievers. Some Muslims try to
argue the point that the prophet Muhammad's birthday has more right to
be "so-called" honoured than that of the prophet Jesus as the
Christians do. This point that they tender is an admission that they
are following and imitating the disbelievers. The prophet said,
"Anyone who imitates a people is one of them" [A'ootho belAllah...
AstagferoAllah]

Additionally, the prophet has warned us on several occasions to be
different from the disbelievers. [Ohh does anyone know about this...I
heard that we are allowed to pray with shoes if they are not
najis...but we should take them off cause we use them to walk on
street and we dont know what was on the floor...but we are
allowed...(is that true?) dunno...this is what the articles says:
Islam allowed us to be different from disbelievers for example . . .
praying in shoes! If anyone has knowledge help us here!]

Some people also try to argue that celebrating the prophet's birthday
will help them remember the prophet. This is really interesting
because the people who usually say this are people who do not remember
the prophet almost every other day of the year. They harbour
misconceptions in Aqeedah, don't establish Salah regularly, dress
provocatively, and do several other things that show that they don't
really care to remember [follow the Sunnah is what we hope they mean
by remember] the prophet, and just want to have a day of merriment
that gives them a psuedo-sense of esteem and love of Islam. If these
Muslims really did want to remember the prophet they would implement
his Sunnah everyday of their lives. [We should remember him all the
time not on one day!]

Perform Ibadah

Being Muslims we should be extremely proud of Islam. Why have a
party? We have been given something better: the aqeedah for our
children. The only thing a Muslim could do on a birthday is fast for
this is what the prophet did on his. Notice what is said is birthday
and not birthdate. The prophet was born on a Monday and he did not –
nor did his companions or any of the trustworthy scholars – do
anything on the 12th of Rabi Al Awal. "…he was asked about fasting on
Mondays to which he responded: it was the day I was born on and the
day I became a prophet because revelations was given to me…"

Aside: we should research to find out what our real birthdates are on
the Hijree calendar which is based on revelations) and stop thinking
we were born on the dates from a synthetic man made calculations.

Conclusion:

Muslims do not celebrate the birthday of anybody regardless of who it
is. If we were to celebrate anybody's birthday it would be that of the
prophet and he and so many better Muslims than us did not do such and
the companions loved him immensely. So if his birthday is not
celebrated why should we celebrate someone's of lesser worthiness? To
celebrate birthdays is heresy. The prophet said: "Anyone who
introduces something into the affairs of ours (Islam) will have it
rejected"

By: Sister Asiyah S.

www.altayyeb.net

Jihaan
09-03-07, 03:49 PM
i strongly believe that people should buy me gifts on my birthdays

giving gifts is a sunnah afterall :)

noble
09-03-07, 03:58 PM
Why specifically on your birthday,why not any other day? well giving a gift is sunnah but i dont think its mentioned anywhere(Allahu aalam) that it must be given on birthdays.

bint
09-03-07, 04:00 PM
dont do birthdays. pray 2 rakah sala thnk Allah for the life u have..one more year closer to ure death.

Ebony
09-03-07, 04:06 PM
Instead of giving belated birthday cards, give them their gift a few days late :p

ummbilal
09-03-07, 09:06 PM
in short.
no birthdays r BIDAH

noble
09-03-07, 09:07 PM
in short.
no birthdays r BIDAH

what do you mean???

$HugoBoss$
09-03-07, 10:44 PM
Would taking your mom out for lunch on her birthday me haram?????

noble
09-03-07, 10:51 PM
Well i dont know an answer to this one but then why should it be on a birthday why shouldnt it be on a normal day or a day other than a birthday???

$HugoBoss$
09-03-07, 10:55 PM
Well i dont know an answer to this one but then why should it be on a birthday why shouldnt it be on a normal day or a day other than a birthday???

I do take my parents out to eat dinner or lunch sometimes it doesn't have to be there birthday. On her birthday she get's extra happy when we go out for lunch or dinner as a family, is making your mom happy a sin????

P3X-018
09-03-07, 11:27 PM
I do take my parents out to eat dinner or lunch sometimes it doesn't have to be there birthday. On her birthday she get's extra happy when we go out for lunch or dinner as a family, is making your mom happy a sin????

The point is birthday celebration is non-islamic festival. We shouldn't celebrate the such festivals. It's like saying you want to make your mom happy on christmas, why not make her happy to the 2 Eid's we have? The Eid is our festival.

$HugoBoss$
09-03-07, 11:33 PM
The point is birthday celebration is non-islamic festival. We shouldn't celebrate the such festivals. It's like saying you want to make your mom happy on christmas, why not make her happy to the 2 Eid's we have? The Eid is our festival.

You didn't answer my question...........

And celebrating to me is inviting all your friends and family members over, cutting a cake, singing happy birthday songs, recieveing gifts.

I know eid is our festival and i do take my mom out on eid to visit family members.

zaki
09-03-07, 11:50 PM
just think we have 1.6 billion muslim brothers and sisters....try remembering their birthdays hehehe :O

noble
10-03-07, 12:02 AM
You didn't answer my question...........

And celebrating to me is inviting all your friends and family members over, cutting a cake, singing happy birthday songs, recieveing gifts.

I know eid is our festival and i do take my mom out on eid to visit family members.

Well i think our brother didnt answer your question coz the answer is obvious,Loving your mother is not a sin but celebrating birthdays is not allowed,although to my opinion i think that if you get time only your birthday to take your mum for dinner but then it shouldnt be the case where you are going out for dinner coz you are celebrating a birthday.

P3X-018
10-03-07, 12:22 AM
You didn't answer my question...........

And celebrating to me is inviting all your friends and family members over, cutting a cake, singing happy birthday songs, recieveing gifts.

I know eid is our festival and i do take my mom out on eid to visit family members.

I have a documentation about participating in kuffars festivals, buts it's in danish. I'll try to point out some of it's points in english.

Amir almu'minin have made a statement about participation in kuffars festivals.
Al-Bayhaqee reported with a sahih isnaad, that Umar (ra) said:

"Don't come near the mushrikin in their churchs (tempels) on their festivals, because (Allah's) anger will be upon them."

Al-Bayhaqee reported that Umar Ibn al-Khattaab (ra) said:

"Avoid Allah's enemies (kuffar) on their festivals."

It is also reported with a saheeh isnaad from Abu Usaamah, that 'Awn told us from Abu'l-Mugheerah that Abullaah Ibn 'Amr (ra) said:

"Those who live in kuffars countries and participates in their festivals and imitate them till he dies in that condition, will join them on the day of jugdement."

Umar Ibn al-Khattaab ordered:

"Those from the people of book (ahlul kitab), that have accepted to live under an islamic rule may not hold their festivals open (public) in Dar ul Islam."

From the above it is understood that muslims agree to prohobit the kuffar to hold their festivals publicly. How can it then even be allowed for muslims to participate in them?
One of the reasons that it is not allowed for them to hold their festivals is because of the falsehood and shirk they contain in the form of sins and symbols. Under all circumstances is their festivals and symbols forbidden for the muslims even if no evil is involved.
Allah sais that one the believers characteristics is:

"25:72 And [know that true servants of God are only] those who never bear witness to what is false (az-zoor)"

Mujahid, ar-rabi' Ibn Anas, al-Qadee abu Ya'laa and ad-Dhahaak ('ulama's from the first generations) says, that az-zoor means kuffars festivals. We can see from this ayah that Allah praises those who don't witnesses these falsehoods (festivals), and that it is therefor haram to particepate in them.

May Allah forgive and correct me if some of the informations aren't correct.

EDIT: Ohh.. I should have read the 1. post with more care, since most of the things are mentioned there. Thanks for all the information and reminder brother
:jkk:

$HugoBoss$
10-03-07, 12:35 AM
You guys are misunderstanding me nobody in my family celebrates their birthday. I take my mom out once in a while for lunch and on her birthday and that is not imitating the kuffar. Kuffar have birthday parties and they give gifts and sing songs etc, now that would be imitating the kuffar.

It would be different if i only take my mom out on her birthday and not any other day but thats not the case.

So tell me now is this called celebrating a birthday, what festivities of a birthday am i celebrating?????

Lambo5688
10-03-07, 01:11 AM
You guys are misunderstanding me nobody in my family celebrates their birthday. I take my mom out once in a while for lunch and on her birthday and that is not imitating the kuffar. Kuffar have birthday parties and they give gifts and sing songs etc, now that would be imitating the kuffar.

It would be different if i only take my mom out on her birthday and not any other day but thats not the case.

So tell me now is this called celebrating a birthday, what festivities of a birthday am i celebrating?????

Treating your mom dinner just randomly is one thing, but treating your mom to dinner in honor of her birthday is another. So yeah, treating your mom dinner in honor of her birthday is imitating the kuffar. Think about it, a birthday only means that you are one year closer to your death...so just thank Allah(swt) that he has kept you alive until now.

hmm...im not a expert on this stuff, just my opinion.

.: Anna :.
10-03-07, 01:23 AM
please can i remind people not to spam with so many idiotic senseless posts going back and forth in the middle of a thread :smack:
thank you!

perfectpearl
10-03-07, 03:33 AM
Why should we? Its one year closer to death :D lol

sersiouly who knows though anyone can die at anytime but thats just my way of putting it. :)

$HugoBoss$
10-03-07, 08:08 AM
Treating your mom dinner just randomly is one thing, but treating your mom to dinner in honor of her birthday is another. So yeah, treating your mom dinner in honor of her birthday is imitating the kuffar. Think about it, a birthday only means that you are one year closer to your death...so just thank Allah(swt) that he has kept you alive until now.

hmm...im not a expert on this stuff, just my opinion.

Jazakallah for your opinion, i will clarify it with an imam. Muslims imitate the kuffar on countless occasions every single day so forget about birthdays which occur once every calendar year, i think we have more important issues to worry about.

P3X-018
10-03-07, 09:46 AM
Jazakallah for your opinion, i will clarify it with an imam. Muslims imitate the kuffar on countless occasions every single day so forget about birthdays which occur once every calendar year, i think we have more important issues to worry about.

It's not "litteraly" imitating the kuffar, but imitate them with their festivals, like celebrating new years, birthdays, easter, valentine day and things like that, since they are falshoods, shirk and ect. It is those things we shouldn't imitate.

noble
10-03-07, 03:21 PM
It's not "litteraly" imitating the kuffar, but imitate them with their festivals, like celebrating new years, birthdays, easter, valentine day and things like that, since they are falshoods, shirk and ect. It is those things we shouldn't imitate.


yup i agree with you.

$HugoBoss$
10-03-07, 11:29 PM
It's not "litteraly" imitating the kuffar, but imitate them with their festivals, like celebrating new years, birthdays, easter, valentine day and things like that, since they are falshoods, shirk and ect. It is those things we shouldn't imitate.

I'm sick and tired of repeating myself, you keep repeating the same words and i agree with you it's just that you don't see my point of view, i'm not going to start another topic about how muslims follow the ways of the kuffar forget it, let it be, you made your point through and so did i, allah knows best.

GuCcI
10-03-07, 11:37 PM
salaam

birthdays are just another excuse to get a free lunch from ur freinds! :D

i, on the other hand, had a majorly depressing birthday. wat i got was a bunch of txt msges :torture: and my mom told me i should clean my room so she doesnt hav to yell at me on my birthday cuz apparently that wouldnt be fun.... :rolleyes:

and thats it. :)

$HugoBoss$
10-03-07, 11:43 PM
salaam

birthdays are just another excuse to get a free lunch from ur freinds! :D

i, on the other hand, had a majorly depressing birthday. wat i got was a bunch of txt msges :torture: and my mom told me i should clean my room so she doesnt hav to yell at me on my birthday cuz apparently that wouldnt be fun.... :rolleyes:

and thats it. :)

My friends never treated me to a free lunch :crying:

Wow cleaning your room on your birthday how exciting but whatever makes your mom happy right :up:

Lambo5688
11-03-07, 12:42 AM
salaam

birthdays are just another excuse to get a free lunch from ur freinds! :D

i, on the other hand, had a majorly depressing birthday. wat i got was a bunch of txt msges :torture: and my mom told me i should clean my room so she doesnt hav to yell at me on my birthday cuz apparently that wouldnt be fun.... :rolleyes:

and thats it. :)

Same here sis. I have never had a birthday party and never got presents from anyone. Except this one friend who I was reallly good close with..and money from my dad.

I never tell people that my b-day is coming up. Unlike my older sis....who announces to the world.

GuCcI
11-03-07, 01:19 AM
Same here sis. I have never had a birthday party and never got presents from anyone. Except this one friend who I was reallly good close with..and money from my dad.

I never tell people that my b-day is coming up. Unlike my older sis....who announces to the world.


salaam

lol brother... brother rite? :rubeyes: if not, i apologize. if so, please disregard :)

anywayz, i too am like ur older sister who announces it to the world but my parents decided after a certain point wen ur older u shouldnt mention ur birthday becuz birthdays are only for young children to enjoy (their idea) :rolleyes:

soo yeh.... every year as i get older the amount of presents decline. there was once a time - wen i was 4 - something triggered in my head at around nite time that it was my birthday. birthday = cake. where was my cake? i had to hav my cake. so i threw a temper tantrum. it couldnt be any old cake. it had to be a big cake. so my daddy brought me a big birthday cake. i still remember to this day standing near the door and seeing a big box with the cake inside. only then was i satisfied and my birthday was complete. after two bites i fell asleep.

and thats my story :)

Irfan GBH
11-03-07, 01:28 AM
You spoilt brat! :torture:

:p Just kidding kid :)

Kal-El
11-03-07, 01:34 AM
I thought the concept of "imitating the Kuffar" meant copying their acts that contradict the teachings of Islam.

I also thought we are encouraged to give gifts to people.

I didn't see it as a sin in giving a gift to a person on the day they were born - a day of remembrance and growth.

Does any of this contradict Islam or our duty to Allah?

GuCcI
11-03-07, 01:59 AM
You spoilt brat! :torture:

:p Just kidding kid :)


salaam

teeheee its all good :up:


wat about blowing out candles on a cake? my father absolutely prohibits that in our house for some reason... he says its haraam. does anyone know anything about that?

Irfan GBH
11-03-07, 02:15 AM
I thought the concept of "imitating the Kuffar" meant copying their acts that contradict the teachings of Islam.

I also thought we are encouraged to give gifts to people.

I didn't see it as a sin in giving a gift to a person on the day they were born - a day of remembrance and growth.

Does any of this contradict Islam or our duty to Allah?

Giving gifts to people cuz you felt like being nice (or for Islamic celebrations, i.e. Eid, weddings, etc) is good and fine.

Celebrating birthdays is something Muhammed :saw: did not do. He saw his birthday as a reminder that he was getting closer to the grave, so he would fast on his birthday rather than celebrate.

Also imitating the kuffar isn't just about things which contridict Islam, but it's about things that are typical of the kuffar, i.e. something which traditionally only the kuffaar do, this could be anything in a society, like the way people dress to various customs. If such things are mainly typical of the kuffaar then Muslims shouldn't participate, as we should try to be different from the kuffaar.

salaam

teeheee its all good :up:


wat about blowing out candles on a cake? my father absolutely prohibits that in our house for some reason... he says its haraam. does anyone know anything about that?

Again this can fall under imitating the kuffaar, since it's one of their customs, not one of ours.

Also it could be considered shirk, because you're mean't to make a wish when you do it. Eve if you dont have such an intention doing it is imitating some wierd superstitious/pagan practices.

GuCcI
11-03-07, 01:03 PM
salaam

yup, dats wat my daddy says^

wat if nonmuslims do it in ur home? my dad isnt allowing that either..... :rubeyes:

.: Anna :.
11-03-07, 01:17 PM
salaam

yup, dats wat my daddy says^

wat if nonmuslims do it in ur home? my dad isnt allowing that either..... :rubeyes:
well its normal i think that if non muslims come 2 ur home they must be made 2 respect ur way, they cant do things there which u wouldnt do urself. like we wouldnt let them come in with a can of beer would we, so if they want 2 do their own customs can do in their own house?

GuCcI
11-03-07, 01:21 PM
well its normal i think that if non muslims come 2 ur home they must be made 2 respect ur way, they cant do things there which u wouldnt do urself. like we wouldnt let them come in with a can of beer would we, so if they want 2 do their own customs can do in their own house?


salaam

rite ... very true... my dad doesnt do a good job of explaining wen u ask... he kinda yells and then walks away leaving me more confuzzled than before! :D

Irfan GBH
11-03-07, 01:26 PM
salaam

rite ... very true... my dad doesnt do a good job of explaining wen u ask... he kinda yells and then walks away leaving me more confuzzled than before! :D

Sounds like a lot of uncle jees we all know :rolleyes:

$HugoBoss$
11-03-07, 04:56 PM
I thought the concept of "imitating the Kuffar" meant copying their acts that contradict the teachings of Islam.

I also thought we are encouraged to give gifts to people.

I didn't see it as a sin in giving a gift to a person on the day they were born - a day of remembrance and growth.

Does any of this contradict Islam or our duty to Allah?

Yes your right muslims imitate the kuffar every single day but fail to recognise so and some do it knowingly. So why make this such a big deal when we do this everyday. Doesn't make sense to me.

P3X-018
11-03-07, 05:14 PM
Yes your right muslims imitate the kuffar every single day but fail to recognise so and some do it knowingly. So why make this such a big deal when we do this everyday. Doesn't make sense to me.

It seems that you're missing the point. We were talking about celebration of kuffars festivals like, birthdays, christmas and etc. That shouldn't be imitated. You're twisting the point like: "Kuffars use both their legs to walk, and when we do that we are imitating the kuffars, that's inevadeable." :rolleyes:

$HugoBoss$
11-03-07, 05:27 PM
It seems that you're missing the point. We were talking about celebration of kuffars festivals like, birthdays, christmas and etc. That shouldn't be imitated. You're twisting the point like: "Kuffars use both their legs to walk, and when we do that we are imitating the kuffars, that's inevadeable." :rolleyes:

Yes well to you it always seems like i'm missing the point :rolleyes:. I'm not twisting the point allah looks at what your intention is whats really in your heart.

Ex: getting a hair cut a certain way trying to imitate a celebrity would be wrong but getting that same haircut because you prefer your hair that way would be ok. Allah looks at intent :up:

P3X-018
11-03-07, 05:37 PM
Yes well to you it always seems like i'm missing the point :rolleyes:. I'm not twisting the point allah looks at what your intention is whats really in your heart.

Ex: getting a hair cut a certain way trying to imitate a celebrity would be wrong but getting that same haircut because you prefer your hair that way would be ok. Allah looks at intent :up:

Indeed it's the intention :up:

What I'm trying to say is:
Don't celebrate, birthdays, christmas, new years, and similar festivals and occations. :)

noble
11-03-07, 06:11 PM
salaam

yup, dats wat my daddy says^

wat if nonmuslims do it in ur home? my dad isnt allowing that either..... :rubeyes:

When you are in rome you do what the romans do right?
why dont they celebrate their birthdays at their home???

ghanamuslima
11-03-07, 09:13 PM
no of course:rubeyes: doh!