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Al Qiyamah
20-02-07, 07:30 PM
As Salaamu Alaykum
Subhan-Allah Islam and the prophet :saw:'s Ummah is/are existent in many parts of this Dunya today ...However there is a possibility of places where Islam has never been heard of ...because of there being no presence of Muslims/Dawah etc ...will the dis-believers who have dis-believed without ever coming across or knowing about Islam also get punished for dis-believing?
I don't know if that makes sense but was just wondering - as then - can they be classed as being 'ignorant' or 'denying' the existence of Allah, his attributes and the beloved Deen, when they have never come to know of it? :scratch: n Will they also be punished for this?
Allahu Alam
Al Qiyamah
20-02-07, 09:02 PM
As Salaamu Alaykum
Subhan-Allah Islam and the prophet :saw:'s Ummah is/are existent in many parts of this Dunya today ...However there is a possibility of places where Islam has never been heard of ...because of there being no presence of Muslims/Dawah etc ...will the dis-believers who have dis-believed without ever coming across or knowing about Islam also get punished for dis-believing?
I don't know if that makes sense but was just wondering - as then - can they be classed as being 'ignorant' or 'denying' the existence of Allah, his attributes and the beloved Deen, when they have never come to know of it? :scratch: n Will they also be punished for this?
Allahu Alam
I've got the answer Alhamdulillah :D
Question:"What happens to those people who die who have never heard of Islam on the Day of Judgement."
Here is the Answer with daleel.
A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence (daleel) for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allaah :saw: (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
“There are four (who will protest) to Allaah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”
According to another report, he said:
“Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.”
(The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881).
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"Who is accountable?
Every human being or jinn who is adult, sane and in receipt of the message of Islam is accountable before Allah for his/her beliefs, words and deeds, and is termed a mukallaf.
Adulthood is defined in this context as reaching physical maturity or the age of fifteen lunar years, whichever comes first. The evidence for the first two conditions is the hadeeth, "The [recording] pen is lifted off from three [categories of people] : the child until he reaches maturity, the sleeping one until he awakens, and the insane one until he regains sanity."
As for the third condition, receipt of the message, the fitrah is a compelling proof, and a person is left with no excuse before Allah once he has been reminded through the message of a Prophet. "Messengers, harbingers of glad tidings and warners, in order that mankind may have no argument before Allah after the Messengers. And Allah is Mighty, Wise." [Qur'an, 4:165] Some may venture to say, based on the following verse, that a person is accountable even before he has received the message, by sole virtue of possessing the fitrah.
"How many a sign is there in the heavens and the earth, which they pass by with their faces turned away!" [Qur'an, 12:105]
However, the stronger position (although Allah knows best) is that one does not become accountable until one has received the message. Allah says, (translated), "And We never punish until We have sent a messenger." [Qur'an, 17:15]
Finally, we should bear in mind that abundant though the proofs may be, they are only of avail to those who honestly and sincerely search for the truth. As for those obdurate ones who simply refuse to believe, they will not cease their idle disputation. "And they say, 'Our hearts are in a covering from that to which you call us, and in our ears is a deafness, and between us and you is a veil, so act, we [also] are acting." [Qur'an, 41:5] "Those against whom the decree of your Lord has been verified, will not believe, although every sign should come to them, until they see the painful punishment." [Qur'an, 10:96-97]
We ask Allah to keep us firm in faith and to bring us our end in it. "
Al Jum'uah Magazine
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Al Qiyamah
21-02-07, 06:59 AM
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Also check this out...
"Who is accountable?
Every human being or jinn who is adult, sane and in receipt of the message of Islam is accountable before Allah for his/her beliefs, words and deeds, and is termed a mukallaf.
Adulthood is defined in this context as reaching physical maturity or the age of fifteen lunar years, whichever comes first. The evidence for the first two conditions is the hadeeth, "The [recording] pen is lifted off from three [categories of people] : the child until he reaches maturity, the sleeping one until he awakens, and the insane one until he regains sanity."
As for the third condition, receipt of the message, the fitrah is a compelling proof, and a person is left with no excuse before Allah once he has been reminded through the message of a Prophet. "Messengers, harbingers of glad tidings and warners, in order that mankind may have no argument before Allah after the Messengers. And Allah is Mighty, Wise." [Qur'an, 4:165] Some may venture to say, based on the following verse, that a person is accountable even before he has received the message, by sole virtue of possessing the fitrah.
"How many a sign is there in the heavens and the earth, which they pass by with their faces turned away!" [Qur'an, 12:105]
However, the stronger position (although Allah knows best) is that one does not become accountable until one has received the message. Allah says, (translated), "And We never punish until We have sent a messenger." [Qur'an, 17:15]
Finally, we should bear in mind that abundant though the proofs may be, they are only of avail to those who honestly and sincerely search for the truth. As for those obdurate ones who simply refuse to believe, they will not cease their idle disputation. "And they say, 'Our hearts are in a covering from that to which you call us, and in our ears is a deafness, and between us and you is a veil, so act, we [also] are acting." [Qur'an, 41:5] "Those against whom the decree of your Lord has been verified, will not believe, although every sign should come to them, until they see the painful punishment." [Qur'an, 10:96-97]
We ask Allah to keep us firm in faith and to bring us our end in it. "
Al Jum'uah Magazine
Akhi.
jazaakAllahu Khayr for that, :)
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