Praise...

[RaNdOm]

:salams

how comes like we respond so well to it if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?

(sorry one of ma feelin lost days)

[Medievalist]

:salams

how comes like we respond so well to it if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?

(sorry one of ma feelin lost days)

because its human nature to want to be told you're clever or you're strong or you're smart or you're amazing.

But for some people **coughs MED cough** it can get a lil tedious being told everyday how good you are. :up:

[Al-Irhaab]

hmmm not to make ur day any worse but ur question doesnt make sense :o

[puella]

hmmm not to make ur day any worse but ur question doesnt make sense :o

ditto

[Medievalist]

hmmm not to make ur day any worse but ur question doesnt make sense :o

The womans asking that we're only meant to care about ALLAH Ta'ala and our standing and rank infront of Him, so why do we get so attached to what people think of us/. or why do we get so overjoyed when another praises us/ or why do we hanker after other peoples praise.

Thats what she was saying in her deficient way.

:rotfl:

JOKE YEH - no need to get all huffing and puffing on me now. :nono:

[RaNdOm]

hmmm not to make ur day any worse but ur question doesnt make sense :o

ditto

:salams

ok ok i know im thick yeh no need to rub it in :( :( :(

[puella]

:salams

ok ok i know im thick yeh no need to rub it in :( :( :(

babe u are not thick :mad:

u just said it in a way we didnt understand :(

[MalikOne™]

cos in tha end it only matters if Allah swt is happy wit us..

but then again if ur parents aint happy wit u or u do injustice to other ppl then Allah swt will not be happy wit u

[RaNdOm]

babe u are not thick :mad:

u just said it in a way we didnt understand :(

:salams

aka THICK

but dusnt matta i dont care :rolleyes:

[puella]

:salams

aka THICK

but dusnt matta i dont care :rolleyes:

:(

[RaNdOm]

because its human nature to want to be told you're clever or you're strong or you're smart or you're amazing.

But for some people **coughs MED cough** it can get a lil tedious being told everyday how good you are. :up:

:salams

but i dont get why its human nature... and like what about if sum lady grew up in the jungle all on her own... like would she not be content with herself without havin to hear praises from others...

:(

:salams

make zat face yellow :)?

[puella]

:salams

but i dont get why its human nature... and like what about if sum lady grew up in the jungle all on her own... like would she not be content with herself without havin to hear praises from others...



:salams

make zat face yellow :)?

:)..jus 4 u

[MalikOne™]

oh never really understood tha question...

i think it depends on diff factors like self esteem can be one, eeman and taqwa another..

and its cos we're human we're born weak.. sometimes we need other ppl to praise us to feel good about ourselves.

[bint]

i heard praise isnt good ...hmmm

[Medievalist]

:salams

but i dont get why its human nature... and like what about if sum lady grew up in the jungle all on her own... like would she not be content with herself without havin to hear praises from others...


Its human nature - simple as that. Malik made a gud point that it depends on different factors like self-esteem, imaan, taqwa etc.

But the thing to be noted is that nothing remains static. There will probably be times when a believer is on a spiritual "high" and at that point feels confident in what he is doing without the need to get approval from others - eg when people come back from hajj/umrah, or after a particular speech which had an effect on the heart/ or at times randomly a person has a strong attraction to the deen and things become easy and others opinions are irrelevant.

But then that doesnt stay the same.

[Medievalist]

But then that doesnt stay the same.

If we look - NO person has more perfect and more complete and more firm imaan than Nabi :saw:. Yet in His Seerah Mubarakah we see that He :saw: Himself praises the support that He received from Ummul Mu'mineen Khadijah radhiyallahu anha.

[Medievalist]

Also the Sahaabah Karaam. They themselves complained to Nabi :saw: that their conditions fluctuate and they percieve a difference in themselves when they are in His Blessed Company and when they are with their families at home.

Its clear that having fluctuations and relying on OTHERS for support/encouragement/approval isn't a weakness or a bad thing at all - but with the condition that it is within the limits ALLAH Ta'ala has set down.

Wanting your parents approval for a thing (not just religious but generally), or wanting your mates to praise your new clothing, or expecting support from those close to you when things seem tough - in my opinion isnt anything to worry about at all. And you'll normally find that its the people who mean the most who are the ones whos approval a person most desires - parents, teachers, friends etc.

Perhaps its from ALLAH's mercy that we have this attachment to other humans and not a point of weakness?

[bint]

wanna carry on med and do a bayan? :D

[bint]

please do not praise me :freedom:

[Medievalist]

wanna carry on med and do a bayan? :D

:eek3:

who told u?

[bint]

ahem who told me what? :rolleyes:

[Medievalist]

ahem who told me what? :rolleyes:

nowt. doesnt matter

[Abu Muslim]

Theres a dua to say when being praised or when you are praised. Something along the lines of "Oh Allah, do not hold me accountable for what these people say and you are the knower of the unseen"

Rasululah (S) said: ‘If anyone of you is impelled to praise his brother, then he should say: “I deem so-and-so to be…and Allaah is his reckoner…and I don’t praise anyone, putting it (i.e. my praising) forward, in front of Allaah’s commendation, however I assume him so and so’…if he knows that of him.

[Abu Muslim]

Oh Allah, do not call me to account for what they say and forgive me for what they have no knowledge of [and make me better than they imagine]

*smiles*

[MalikOne™]

A man praised another man in front of the Prophet :saw: . The Prophet :saw: said thrice, "Wailaka (Woe on you)! You have cut the neck of your brother!" The Prophet :saw: added, "If it is indispensable for anyone of you to praise a person, then he should say, 'I think that such-and-such person (is so-and-so),' and Allah is the one who will take his accounts (as he knows his reality) and none can sanctify anybody before Allah (and that only if he knows well about that person)."

[heaven2002]

:salams

how comes like we respond so well to it if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?

(sorry one of ma feelin lost days)

in think some of this has to do with social conditioning. as babies/toddlers we are praised when we laugh, smile, start talking/walking. this then carries into childhood with our parents/grandparents/teachers praising us. we start to rely on praise to boost part of our self-esteem. if you raised a child without ever praising them then this child wouldnt know what it was missing out on, unless it saw others being praised. if im praising/admiring something or someone i tend to say masha'allah in my head after the praise.

[bint]

A man praised another man in front of the Prophet :saw: . The Prophet :saw: said thrice, "Wailaka (Woe on you)! You have cut the neck of your brother!" The Prophet :saw: added, "If it is indispensable for anyone of you to praise a person, then he should say, 'I think that such-and-such person (is so-and-so),' and Allah is the one who will take his accounts (as he knows his reality) and none can sanctify anybody before Allah (and that only if he knows well about that person)."


hah! that was what i was remembering..

subhnaAllah such a beautiful hadeeth..:inlove:

[OBL]

how comes like we respond so well to it if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?


what the hell, dont make sense man...what u trying to say.?.

[Medievalist]

There are two types of praise - halal and haraam.

The haraam type is the one where you become excessive in it and it is percieved that the other person grows in ARROGANCE or when there is an ulterior motive behind it.
The halaal type is where it is sincere and is done with little effect being registered in arrogance levels going up. We see Nabi :saw: praise the Sahaabah Karaam alayhim ridhwaan on occasions and these bring joy to their hearts.

Blanket banning is not what is required by the religion.

[Abu Mus'ab]

what the hell, dont make sense man...what u trying to say.?.
It's not difficult at all to understand *Roll Eyes*

The thread title is "praise" so the question is about praise, so what she's saying is,

how comes like we respond so well to it (praise) if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?

or in other words,

Why do we like to be praised by people if we're only meant to want Allah Subhanahu wa ta'aala to be happy with us?

since as you know that praising a person (like in that hadith quoted by MalikOne) is forbidden.

it's not hard to understand, you just need to read *Roll Eyes*

[Abu Mus'ab]

Blanket banning is not what is required by the religion.

Yeah you can't ban blankets *Roll Eyes*

[OBL]

it's not hard to understand, you just need to read

it is hard to read.. i read 3 times and couldnt understand what she wrote...anyway jazakalla khair for the translation.

[muslim_sis]

Oh Allah, do not call me to account for what they say and forgive me for what they have no knowledge of [and make me better than they imagine]

*smiles*

*thumbs up* dua subhanallah !!!

[Abu Mus'ab]

Related threads,

Speech (http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109956)

Praising people (http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102713)

[RaNdOm]

what the hell, dont make sense man...what u trying to say.?.

:salams

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[Medievalist]

:salams

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am i the only 1 who thinks this bearded sister is going overboard with the torture? :scratch:

[Abu Mus'ab]

am i the only 1 who thinks these bearded sister is going overboard with the torture? :scratch:
Yeah me thinks you're the only one *Roll Eyes*

[RaNdOm]

Yeah me thinks you're the only one *Roll Eyes*

:salams

haha shame :D

[Medievalist]

:salams

haha shame :D

y u cussing Abu Mus'ab for? he was sticking up for u :scratch:

[RaNdOm]

y u cussing Abu Mus'ab for? he was sticking up for u :scratch:

:salams

i was like showin u what he said for me enit :D ... u canna get a nicer person than abu musab mashaAllah, even tho he likes to hide it and that :torture:

[`asiya]

:salams

how comes like we respond so well to it if we're only menta like want Allah swt to be happy with us and not anyone else?

(sorry one of ma feelin lost days)

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104441

a really good article on a related thread here sis Alhamdulillah

[Na'eemah]

:salams

i was like showin u what he said for me enit :D ... u canna get a nicer person than abu musab mashaAllah, even tho he likes to hide it and that :torture:

lol :up:

[RaNdOm]

:salams

is it wrong to think like... well if someone praises you its kinda like confirmation that Allah is pleased with u...:o or is that wrong?

cos u know like...

Abu Hurairah (god bless him) narrated that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

“If Allah loves a person, He calls Gabriel saying, 'Allah loves so and-so; O Gabriel! Love him.’ Gabriel would love him and make an announcement amongst the inhabitants of the Heaven. 'Allah loves so-and-so, therefore you should love him also,' and so all the inhabitants of the Heaven would love him, and then he is granted the pleasure of the people on the earth."[Bukhari and Tirmidhi]

:o ?

[Abu Mus'ab]

:salams

is it wrong to think like... well if someone praises you its kinda like confirmation that Allah is pleased with u...:o or is that wrong?

cos u know like...

Abu Hurairah (god bless him) narrated that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

“If Allah loves a person, He calls Gabriel saying, 'Allah loves so and-so; O Gabriel! Love him.’ Gabriel would love him and make an announcement amongst the inhabitants of the Heaven. 'Allah loves so-and-so, therefore you should love him also,' and so all the inhabitants of the Heaven would love him, and then he is granted the pleasure of the people on the earth."[Bukhari and Tirmidhi]

:o ?

Wa alaikumus salaam.

Hmm it's not exactly right, no one is guaranteed that Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala is pleased with you.

the people of earth mentioned in that hadith are the awliya, and the good people, not everyone.

For instance if volt praised me for something i said then than would be a confirmation that i was wrong.

And if someone like Al-irhaab praised me then i might have been right.

But if one rasoolullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam had to praise me then i'd know that Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala was pleased with me.

But you can't be totally sure that Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala is pleased with you if ordinary people praise you.

hmmm but then again i don't know what i'm talking about.