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Quest

31-01-07, 04:09 AM

Ceren

31-01-07, 04:24 AM

A/s

Hey if any of u have any knowledge on why we are allowed to dye our hair any color but black, i would appreciate if u share it.

yes i know because the prophet scw said so, and personaly for me its enuff as i trust his wisdom even if i dont see/understand it at the begining.

i ask because am sincerely curious, is there a reason given by the scholars
shukran jazeelan.

:salams

There are actually difference of opinions in this matter. There's a non-sahih hadith where the prophet prohibits the use of black dye hair.

And then there's another hadith with in which at the time of Umar, a man dyed his hair black to look younger and married a young woman. So she went to Umar, he nullified the marriage and accused the old man of trying to deceive.

And then there's another hadith concerning the muhajideen.

So based on this evidence scholars have concluded that:

a) It's permissible for a muhajidden to dye the hair pure black
b) It's impermissible to dye the hair pure black for the object of deceiving (ie. appearing younger), this is because most people in that culture had black hair to begin with.
c) It's permissible/makrooh/haram to dye your hair pure black as an adornment. Scholars have differed.

The best compromise is to dye it black with a brown hue or so.

And Allah knows best.

Te'oma

31-01-07, 04:33 AM

Quest

31-01-07, 05:29 AM

:salams

There are actually difference of opinions in this matter. There's a non-sahih hadith where the prophet prohibits the use of black dye hair.

And then there's another hadith with in which at the time of Umar, a man dyed his hair black to look younger and married a young woman. So she went to Umar, he nullified the marriage and accused the old man of trying to deceive.

And then there's another hadith concerning the muhajideen.

So based on this evidence scholars have concluded that:

a) It's permissible for a muhajidden to dye the hair pure black
b) It's impermissible to dye the hair pure black for the object of deceiving (ie. appearing younger), this is because most people in that culture had black hair to begin with.
c) It's permissible/makrooh/haram to dye your hair pure black as an adornment. Scholars have differed.

The best compromise is to dye it black with a brown hue or so.

And Allah knows best.

lol at the old man who tried to decieve (i wonder if she caught him slippin by doing a touch up one day )

i naturally have jet dark hair, but when i stand in the light i use 2 hate the brown i saw.

theres a dark brown thats like 99% black, i used it once
but i prefer black hair jet jet jet black hair. (i have never dyed it after i came across that hadith tho hence the dark brown)

2 be honest i dont need it, i guess i just liked the result when i did dye it jet black because even in the light the brown doesnt appear, i guess its tru what they say once u go black u dont wanna go back:D

thanks for the post sis, p.s didnt know the hadith was weak. i think i will just leave it just 2 b on the safe side.

Quest

31-01-07, 05:30 AM

What about those products like "Just for men" that doesn't really die the hair but causes it to grow in gradually with it's original colour? It's not a die but a chemical process that prevents the hair from being grey. Same formula works for redheads, blondes or brunettes

lol question is so after treatment is ur hair dyed jet black?

theres this hair growth thing they advertise on the islam channel, that with some dua should work wonders. want me to ship it over to u baldy ?:D

Tahiyah

31-01-07, 06:08 AM

i ve seen black henna.....so whats it for? arent married women allowed to dye their hair black, i mean its to please their husband and he knows her true color anyhow?

Allahu Alim

Quest

31-01-07, 06:10 AM

i ve seen black henna.....so whats it for? arent married women allowed to dye their hair black, i mean its to please their husband and he knows her true color anyhow?

Allahu Alim

i was told by butcher its ok (lol he probably wanted my money)
was told by others its ok, and then others said it isnt

i just left it (doubt) u know how it is

hope more people respond 2 this thread with some daleel also
would love 2 explore this issue further

Te'oma

31-01-07, 06:52 AM

lol question is so after treatment is ur hair dyed jet black?

theres this hair growth thing they advertise on the islam channel, that with some dua should work wonders. want me to ship it over to u baldy ?:D

It only grows in black if that was your natural colour to start with and it works for beards too. It doesn't die the hair really but as new hairs grow in, they don't come in grey so it's a gradual process. As for the baldy...I have a full head of hair but I shave it so no need for your snake oil :D

Te'oma

31-01-07, 07:12 AM

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All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

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In his well-known book, The Lawful and The Prohibited in Islam, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi states the Islamic rulings pertaining to dyeing the hair as follows:

"It was reported that the Jews and Christians refrained from dyeing the hair, regarding such beautification and adornment as contrary to piety and devotion, and not befitting rabbis, priests, and ascetics. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade Muslims from imitating these people or following in their ways, in order that Muslims might develop their own distinctive and independent characteristics in appearance and behavior.

Al-Bukhari, on the authority of Abu Hurayrah, quoted the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying, 'The Jews and Christians do not dye their hair, so be different from them.'

This, however, is not a command but only a recommendation, as is evident from the actions of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) such as Abu Bakr and `Umar, who used to dye their hair. Others, such as `Ali, Ubay ibn Ka`b, and Anas, did not.

The question now remains as to what type of dye is to be used. Should it be black or are there any other colors? Or black should be avoided?

If a man is advanced in age with white hair and a beard, it would hardly be appropriate for him to dye his hair black. On the day of the conquest of Makkah, Abu Bakr brought his aged father, Abu Quhafah, carrying him until he had him seated in front of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). On seeing Abu Quhafah's snow-white hair, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, 'Change this, but avoid black.' (Fath Al-Bari)

In contrast, if a man is not of such advanced age or feebleness as that of Abu Quhafah, there is no harm in his using black dye. In this regard, Az-Zuhri said, 'We dyed our hair black when the face looked young, but discarded it when the face became wrinkled and the teeth decayed.' (Reported by Ibn Abu `Asim in the book on 'Dyeing the Hair')

Some of the early Muslims, including some Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) such as Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, `Uqbah ibn `Amr, Al-Hassan, Al-Hussayn, Jareer, and others permitted the use of black dye. Some scholars do not consider the use of black dye as permissible except during time of war, with possibility of making the enemy thrown off balance by seeing all Muslim soldiers in their blossoming youth.

Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated, 'The best thing with which to dye gray hair is Henna and Katm.' (Mentioned in Fath Al-Bari) Henna makes the hair red, while Katm, a plant from Yemen, colors it black, tinged with red. Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) says, 'Abu Bakr dyed his hair with Henna and Katm, and `Umar dyed it with Henna only.'"

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