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Abdulah
18-01-07, 09:11 PM
What does Islam say on all the languages in the world? When Adam(as) was alive did he speak many languages or just one? Can someone explain?
M. Siddiqi
18-01-07, 11:10 PM
What does Islam say on all the languages in the world? When Adam(as) was alive did he speak many languages or just one? Can someone explain?
As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
Will knowing what language Adam (alayhis salam) spoke increase your iman?
It is important to only seek knowledge that will increase your iman.
Selamat
19-01-07, 03:25 AM
It is important to only seek knowledge that will increase your iman.
That's kind of a crazy statement. Learning to weld professionally won't increase my imaan, so should I not bother?
That's kind of a crazy statement. Learning to weld professionally won't increase my imaan, so should I not bother?
i think The Prophet :saw: would seek refuge from useless knowledge,
it just causes confusion, beneficial knowledge is beneficial, ie. learning to weld will give you an income but not all knowledge is necessarily beneficial.
Some things just arent really things we need to be concerned with.
Medievalist
19-01-07, 04:04 PM
The language of Jannah is arabic. Before Sayyidina Adam alayhis salaam was sent to earth He was in the JANNAH so by some ulama His mother-tongue so to speak was arabic.
However some ulama have also written that it is a principle that whoever enters the Garden is not taken out. So the Garden in which Sayyidina Adam alayhis salaam was placed in first must have been another Garden to the Ultimate Paradise and hence it is not necessary that the spoken language was arabic.
In the end the Ulama differ on this.
Where is the evidence that Jannah's language is arabic?
Medievalist
19-01-07, 06:44 PM
Where is the evidence that Jannah's language is arabic?
erm. . . cant remember. Im just quoting what we have heard from the ulama bruv.
i think The Prophet :saw: would seek refuge from useless knowledge,
it just causes confusion, beneficial knowledge is beneficial, ie. learning to weld will give you an income but not all knowledge is necessarily beneficial.
Some things just arent really things we need to be concerned with.
sah akhi barakAllah feek amin, Abu Hurayrah narrated the messenger of Allah,salallahu alleyhi wa salam said
"Avoid what I have forbidden for you, but what i have commanded you to do, do of it what you are able to do. Indeed the people before you were destroyed by asking unnecessary questions and their disobedience to their Prophets"
Sahih Bukhari and Muslim
Cristiana
19-01-07, 10:16 PM
I don't see what's wrong with this question. I mean, seeking knowledge is good. What knowledge can be bad? If you learn/find out something that negatively affects your eeman then maybe you have to strengthen it in the first place rather than avoid the knowledge.
...or did I miss something?
Abdulah
19-01-07, 10:26 PM
ehh i asked how come there are so many languages on Earth, what does Islam say for this?
.: Anna :.
19-01-07, 10:26 PM
Where is the evidence that Jannah's language is arabic?
Actually it will be a nice thread insha allah if someone has got the references for it and can post it up :) But one thing which I can think of 2 suggest it is that in Quran it is said the speach of the ppl in Jannah will b "salam", and this is an Arabic word :) But I think also there is alot more? (I dnt know the evidences tho, so the thread will b beneficial)
I don't see what's wrong with this question. I mean, seeking knowledge is good. What knowledge can be bad? If you learn/find out something that negatively affects your eeman then maybe you have to strengthen it in the first place rather than avoid the knowledge.
...or did I miss something?
what im saying Christiana is that some people fill their heads with random trivia which is going to be of little benefit to them, whereas studying Islamic jurisprudence for example would be beneficial to them, so we should just concern ourselves with that which concerns us, which was an attribute of the Sahabas.
im not sure it needs a whole thread anyones welcome to repaste it and make one if they like, it answers your question at the bottem too akhi abdullah we have no evidence from the Quran or sahih sunnah of what the language of Adam alleyhi salam was so masha Allah,so maybe its not so important anyway..malesh huh :)
Question:
I would like to know what the language of the people of Paradise is. Is it Arabic?.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
There is no mention in the Qur’aan or in the saheeh Sunnah – as far as we know – of which language is spoken by the people of Paradise. What is narrated concerning that is a hadeeth which is not soundly narrated from our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and some other reports (athaar).
It was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, al-Haakim, al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan and others that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons, because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic and the speech of the people of Paradise is Arabic.”
Ibn al-Jawzi ruled that this hadeeth is fabricated. Al-Dhahabi said that the hadeeth is fabricated (mawdoo’). Al-Albaani said in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (no. 160): (it is) fabricated.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Similarly, Abu Ja’far Muhammad ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Haafiz al-Koofi, who is known as Mateen, told us: al-‘Ala’ ibn ‘Amr al-Hanafi told us: Yahya ibn Zayd al-Ash’ari told us: Ibn Jurayj told us, from Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons: because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic, and the language of the people of Paradise is Arabic.”
Al-Haafiz al-Salafi said: this is a hasan hadeeth. I do not know whether he meant that its isnaad is hasan according to the way of the scholars of hadeeth, or that its text is hasan in general terms. Abu’l-Faraj ibn al-Jawzi mentioned this hadeeth among the mawdoo’ (fabricated) texts and said: al-Tha’labi said: it has no basis. Ibn Hibbaan said: Yahya ibn Zayd narrated unsound ahaadeeth from sound narrators, so it is invalid to quote his reports as evidence. And Allaah knows best.
End quote from Iqtida’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem (1/158).
Al-Tabaraani narrated in al-Awsat that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am an Arab, and the Qur’aan is Arabic, and the language of the people of Paradise is Arabic.”
Al-Albaani said in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (no. 161): it is fabricated.
The point is that there is no saheeh evidence to show which language is spoken by the people of Paradise. Hence we should refrain from speaking about this issue and not indulge in it, and we should refer knowledge of the matter to Allaah (may He be exalted), and focus instead on issues that will lead to good deeds in this world.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: in what (language) will Allaah address the people on the Day of Resurrection? Will Allaah address them in the tongue of the Arabs? Is it true that the language of the people of Hell will be Farsi and that the language of the people of Paradise will be Arabic? He replied: Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. It is not known what language the people will speak on that Day, or in what language they will hear the words of the Lord, may He be exalted, because Allaah has not told us anything about that, nor has His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It is not true that Farsi will be the language of the people of Hell, or that Arabic will be the language of the people of Paradise.
We do not know of any discussion of that among the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them), rather all of them refrained from speaking of that because speaking about such a thing is discussion of something unnecessary… but there was a dispute concerning that among later scholars. Some people said that they will be addressed in Arabic and others said that the people of Hell will respond in Farsi, which will be their language in Hell. Others said that they will be addressed in Syriac because that was the language of Adam and from it stemmed all other languages. Others said that the people of Paradise will speak Arabic.
There is no basis for any of these ideas, whether on the grounds of common sense or in any report or text, rather they are mere claims that are devoid of any evidence. And Allaah knows best and is most Wise. End quote.
Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (4/299)
And Allaah knows best.
Selamat
19-01-07, 11:42 PM
I don't see what's wrong with this question. I mean, seeking knowledge is good. What knowledge can be bad? If you learn/find out something that negatively affects your eeman then maybe you have to strengthen it in the first place rather than avoid the knowledge.
...or did I miss something?
The problem with this type of question is that it is virtually unanswerable, and as such, leads to alot of random interpretation, which is very dangerous. I believe the Quran curses some people because they argue over things which they know nothing about (ie: the Arabian Jews and Christians argued over what religion Abraham was)
You are the ones who would argue about that which is known to you; but why do you argue about something which is unknown to you? Allah knows, whereas you do not know..[3:66]
ehh i asked how come there are so many languages on Earth, what does Islam say for this?
I dont think there is Babel tower story idea supported in the Quran and Hadiths bro. Did any Christian ask you this? Wallahu Alam.
Abdulah
20-01-07, 08:41 AM
I dont think there is Babel tower story idea supported in the Quran and Hadiths bro. Did any Christian ask you this? Wallahu Alam.
No i just wondering
Cristiana
20-01-07, 10:46 AM
what im saying Christiana is that some people fill their heads with random trivia which is going to be of little benefit to them, whereas studying Islamic jurisprudence for example would be beneficial to them, so we should just concern ourselves with that which concerns us, which was an attribute of the Sahabas.
Yes sure this kind of info is not necessary as such, just curiosity. And yes, first we should be concerned with more important topics. But if one makes time to learn Islam, the odd trivial question just denotes healthy curiosity:)
Cristiana
20-01-07, 10:54 AM
The problem with this type of question is that it is virtually unanswerable, and as such, leads to alot of random interpretation, which is very dangerous. I believe the Quran curses some people because they argue over things which they know nothing about (ie: the Arabian Jews and Christians argued over what religion Abraham was)
You are the ones who would argue about that which is known to you; but why do you argue about something which is unknown to you? Allah knows, whereas you do not know..[3:66]
Yes I understand it can lead to dangerous interpretations...
But I am a linguist and since I reverted I asked myself WHY all this languages?
A very basic insight in linguistic typology is enough to see that the diversity and variety in the languages of the world can blow your mind... IT REALLY IS AMAZING!
The answer I gave myself is that Allah made people belong to different nations so they could know each other (sorry I can't quote and reference properly) and I think this may apply to languages as well: they are so different so that we can appreciate diversity in this fascinating way too:) and also appreciate the effort and patience it sometimes takes to communicate with each other, bridging the gap of our differences:)
Do I make sense at all?
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