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muslimlearner
16-01-07, 09:11 PM
:salams

does that fall in the same catogery as practising?

BintIslam
16-01-07, 09:37 PM
Assalamualaykum
Wy would u watch something that involves shirk..its haram to do it...i mean would u watch someone committing zinaa? I'm not saying its haramm or wat not just trying to use logic thats all

muslimlearner
16-01-07, 09:50 PM
is card tricks part of magic then?

-Yassar
16-01-07, 10:13 PM
card tricks ain't magic bro just quick hands and whatnot...

muslimlearner
16-01-07, 10:21 PM
Nothing is magic. They are all tricks.

nopah
17-01-07, 12:08 AM
you mean watching david coperfield/blaine? thats OK. I think they are using tricks not wizardry like real magic which is haram. if we watch wizardry (harry potter is exception :D) its like we are supporting this people to commit shirk and we are no better.

dour
17-01-07, 12:13 AM
Real magic has never been proven in any way. All magic is just slight of hand and tricks.

Lambo5688
17-01-07, 12:16 AM
thanks for askin this question bro. I always wondered this myself.

So I guess, "magic" which are actually just illusion are haraam to watch. Is it ok to perform them?

Mujaheedah
17-01-07, 12:40 AM
i think she means like the criss angel show or harry potter or magic shows, stuff like that.

umm_huraiyrah
17-01-07, 02:04 AM
are you talking about witchcraft? or like theater magic??? If it's theater magic I think it's ok because it's nothing but tricks and illusions. But if you mean actual witchcraft I thnk thats very haram.

Habiba

umm_huraiyrah
17-01-07, 02:07 AM
is card tricks part of magic then?

LOL I have 2 deacks of "magic cards" They are nothing but like more 8's then should be one card a little longer then the rest. My other deck hides a card behind a false bottem. Thats illusions and tricks.

Habiba

tauheedul
17-01-07, 04:27 AM
when they refer to magic, they are referring to Black Magic, I.E, Sorcery. Using Jinn to do your dirty work.

The people who do black magic and go to see black magic being performed commit shirk.

David Blaine only perform mere tricks. (shove a card up there sleeve. That can hardly be classed as black magic).

muslimlearner
17-01-07, 10:30 AM
what if the black magic is being performed in a movie you're watching?

nopah
17-01-07, 05:33 PM
what if the black magic is being performed in a movie you're watching?
we call it hollywood or bollywood tricks :D

nopah
17-01-07, 05:36 PM
thanks for askin this question bro. I always wondered this myself.

So I guess, "magic" which are actually just illusion are haraam to watch. Is it ok to perform them?
uh? illusion is not haram. its all nothing but tricks. socery like harry potter is haram. if you are doing it then its more haram than watching it since you need baba ganush's help. lol jk bro

Abu Mus'ab
17-01-07, 06:59 PM
thanks for askin this question bro. I always wondered this myself.

So I guess, "magic" which are actually just illusion are haraam to watch. Is it ok to perform them?
Well i'd say if you do it you need a thappar against your head *Roll Eyes*

Umar`
18-01-07, 06:50 AM
magics real and its a serious thing, i think it nullifies your Islam so dont have anything to do with it.

Abu Mus'ab
18-01-07, 05:48 PM
magics real and its a serious thing, i think it nullifies your Islam so dont have anything to do with it.
Yes, sihr is one of the nullifiers of Imaan.

OBL
18-01-07, 05:56 PM
yh no such thing as magic.. its all tricks and illusion.. there all fake... there not magicians there tricksters..

Abu Mus'ab
18-01-07, 07:04 PM
yh no such thing as magic.. its all tricks and illusion.. there all fake... there not magicians there tricksters..
There is a thing called magic *Roll Eyes*

OBL
18-01-07, 07:22 PM
There is a thing called magic *Roll Eyes*

Yeh its called black magic..

tauheedul
18-01-07, 08:34 PM
Pharoes magicians used to use Illussions to deny the word of Allah. When Musa A.S would preach to him, they would contest with the false magic - illusions.

Remember there is a ayah in the quran which describes the pharoes sorcerer made a snake with their illusions, musa a.s. staff turned into a snake which ate the "fake" snake. Then pharoes sorcerers embraced Islam as they realised Musa A.S spoke the truth.

So i guess Illusions will fall into the category of haram.

Umar`
18-01-07, 08:40 PM
when they refer to magic, they are referring to Black Magic, I.E, Sorcery. Using Jinn to do your dirty work.

The people who do black magic and go to see black magic being performed commit shirk.

David Blaine only perform mere tricks. (shove a card up there sleeve. That can hardly be classed as black magic).

i think the likes of copperfield do real magic too bro, when they get someone to pull a card he cant tell what it is till the volunteer sees it, then he gets his qareen to tell him which card it was, blaine and copperfield are jews by the way.

Umar`
18-01-07, 08:42 PM
Yeh its called black magic..

magic is still magic

tauheedul
18-01-07, 08:49 PM
there are two types of magic, Illusions and black magic - illusions are what the pharoes sorcerors used to perform. Black magic is when you get a jinn to do your dirty work through a baba lol..

These are both Shirk and Haram

tauheedul
18-01-07, 08:50 PM
i think the likes of copperfield do real magic too bro, when they get someone to pull a card he cant tell what it is till the volunteer sees it, then he gets his qareen to tell him which card it was, blaine and copperfield are jews by the way.

maybe so, but if it makes one doubt there iman. Then it is definately haram.

muslimlearner
18-01-07, 09:10 PM
Ok, how about if watching magic, or black magic, in a movie? Do i just turn my face away or what?!

tauheedul
18-01-07, 09:46 PM
Ok, how about if watching magic, or black magic, in a movie? Do i just turn my face away or what?!

if your talking about something like harry potter, then speak to an Alim.

Technically we shouldnt be watching TV, music and women etc...

The magic performed is fake, everyone knows it. However if it motivates a person to do real black magic. That is something else.

|zdihaar
20-01-07, 10:24 AM
Question:
What is the ruling on watching videos in general, and the movies that are called documentaries? Please advise us, may Allaah bless you.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

Watching movies includes looking at things that are haraam, such as seeing ‘awrahs, following immoral actions, or listening to things that are haraam such as music and obscene talk. Undoubtedly it is haraam to watch them in this case.

If the movies are free of such things, then there is nothing wrong with watching them, so long as that does not distract one from remembering Allaah or keep one from doing something that is obligatory.

No distinction is made between documentaries and other kinds of movies.

Watching movies has a bad effect on the individual and on the ummah. These include the following:

1 Provocation of desires.

2 Propagation of immorality which is made attractive and easily accessible.

3 Teaching and justification of crime, and making it familiar to young and old.

4 Corruption of married life, by making the wife seem ugly to the husband and vice versa, by showing images of attractive girls and men.

5 Spreading corrupt beliefs which are based on kaafir theories, such as the theory of evolution, or attributing the powers of creation and destruction to researchers and inventors, or propagating magic, soothsaying and claims to know the unseen, or making fun of religion and religious people, and other things which appear in movies that are shown to young and old.

6 Wasting time and draining away energy, living with illusions far removed from reality.

And there are other evil consequences.

Shaykh Ibn Jibreen (may Allaah preserve him) said: Another of the evils of looking at those beguiling images and enjoying watching them is those images which are shown in movies on videos and on the TV etc, which show images of adorned women, especially those which are broadcast from foreign countries, and those that are shown via satellite, etc.

They are a fitnah (trial, temptation), and what a fitnah. The one who looks at those images cannot be sure that he will remain uninfluenced by the image of this woman or this zaani (adulterer) or this one who is committing evil and showing him the way to do it. He may not be able to control himself and stop himself from looking for ways to fulfil his desire, if he does not have the faith to stop him looking at these images, whether they are drawings, photographs in the pages of newspapers and magazines, or they are shown in direct broadcasts or in movies and the like.

These sins and haraam things are prevalent everywhere, and they are calling people to commit immoral actions. When a woman watches these non-mahram men, she cannot be sure that her heart will not incline towards committing immoral deeds, and when a woman sees these immoral, adorned women she would be temped to imitate them because she will think that they are smarter and stronger than her. That will make her cast aside the garment of modesty and uncover her face, and she will show her beauty to strangers, and she will become a fitnah and what a fitnah. End quote from the website of Shaykh Ibn Jibreen.

For more information on the dangers of TV, see the essay al-Ijhaaz ‘ala al-Tilfaaz by Shaykh Muhammad Ahmad Ismaa’eel.

See also questions no. 3633, 3324, 1107, 13003 for the rulings on watching TV and movies.

And Allaah knows best.

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