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islamiqa786
01-01-07, 05:56 PM
would u :hidban:

Revenge.
01-01-07, 05:57 PM
heck no I would not.

Arsalan
01-01-07, 05:57 PM
Depends , whats init for me? :up:

islamiqa786
01-01-07, 05:58 PM
a wife, islam says your allowed by the way

bint
01-01-07, 05:58 PM
yeah i agree with arsalan. depends whats in it for me. how much money will i get?:D (yeah im greedy i already know):rolleyes:

Aseer
01-01-07, 06:02 PM
No way, i hate my cousin!

Abu Mus'ab
01-01-07, 06:02 PM
And what happens if you have no cousins? *Roll Eyes*

Revenge.
01-01-07, 06:07 PM
the reason for me if I divorce the cousin, I would want that person out of my life completly. You know what i mean on that?

Phoenix CG
01-01-07, 06:12 PM
Bro just do it, marry your cousin, allow these threads :p

Al Qadr
01-01-07, 06:16 PM
No!

islamiqa786
01-01-07, 06:18 PM
why? Its allowed in islam

bint
01-01-07, 06:19 PM
why? Its allowed in islam
that doesnt mean u go marry her or him cos its allowed. personal reasons and comfort comes into it too.:torture:


seriously islamiqa..why are u just starting threads on marrriage only?

Al Qadr
01-01-07, 06:22 PM
I think its better if you marry out the family, you bring in more people to the family aswell, not just the same boring faces :D

Abu Mus'ab
01-01-07, 06:24 PM
why? Its allowed in islam
They have the right to choose who they want to marry, if they want to marry their cousin then they can, and if they dont want to then they dont have to.

Selamat
01-01-07, 06:26 PM
why? Its allowed in islam

Yes, it is allowed, but not obligated. Even though it is allowed, you still have the choice as to who you want to marry.

MMS
01-01-07, 06:27 PM
depends what car he drives :rolleyes:

khanbaba
01-01-07, 06:30 PM
Depends how hot she is
I kid hehe :D

Sulaiman Harun
01-01-07, 06:45 PM
if she's a good person , then why not :D

Eemaan
01-01-07, 06:58 PM
no

lunacy runs in my family

Kal-El
01-01-07, 07:01 PM
why? Its allowed in islam

/\ lol

No I would not marry a cousin; I've never been comfortable with the concept of it because I see my cousins as my brothers and sisters anyway. But, in some cultures is the preference to marry inside the family rather then extend it, so they would want to, but not for me.

islamiqa786
01-01-07, 07:13 PM
technically, were all family, were all from adam and eve

zaki
01-01-07, 07:16 PM
why do you post so many random questions & polls, what are you getting out of this?

Nusayba bint Ka'b
01-01-07, 07:20 PM
why do you post so many random questions & polls, what are you getting out of this?

if u ask me its all a bit


:wacko:

zaki
01-01-07, 07:22 PM
if u ask me its all a bit


:wacko:

yep yep :D

neelu
01-01-07, 07:41 PM
None of my cousins are compatible with me. If any of them were, I may have considered it.

wicked
01-01-07, 07:44 PM
no i wouldn't marry my cousin either but who ever does i don't really object ,their choice.

Kal-El
01-01-07, 07:50 PM
technically, were all family, were all from adam and eve

Well you just answered your own question then

~mohaddisa~
01-01-07, 07:51 PM
Hmm..personally i couldn't picture marrying a cousin cos i think one of the great things about marriage (particularly aranged marriage) is getting to know someone and in sort of making a fresh start together. If you know the person quite well already, where's the mystery? I've heard that there are medical issues concerned with marrying within the family but i'm not sure if there's actually solid evidence for that. Dispite my personal preferences..Islamically you shouldn't refuse marriage to a person unless there is a real, valid reason. I think it's definately a personal choice thing though..and of course whether the cousin is good looking does come into it ;)

Kal-El
01-01-07, 07:52 PM
Hmm..personally i couldn't picture marrying a cousin cos i think one of the great things about marriage (particularly aranged marriage) is getting to know someone and in sort of making a fresh start together. If you know the person quite well already, where's the mystery? I've heard that there are medical issues concerned with marrying within the family but i'm not sure if there's actually solid evidence for that. Dispite my personal preferences..Islamically you shouldn't refuse marriage to a person unless there is a real, valid reason. I think it's definately a personal choice thing though..and of course whether the cousin is good looking does come into it ;)

I've heard this aswell but why would it be halal to marry your cousins if your children could become ill?

So I don't think it's true. Allah knows best

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 07:55 PM
First cousin or second cousin?

Kal-El
01-01-07, 07:58 PM
First cousin or second cousin?

First cousin I believe

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 07:59 PM
First cousin I believe

Then no.

Second cousin, maayybee. But most likely not.

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:01 PM
Then no.

Second cousin, maayybee. But most likely not.

What if your wedding gift was a Gallardo?

Al-Nasser
01-01-07, 08:02 PM
is it true that it's illegal in the USA?

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:02 PM
What if your wedding gift was a Gallardo?

oh man, id marry that first cousin in a second. heck, id marry 2.

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:03 PM
oh man, id marry that first cousin in a second. heck, id marry 2.

:D

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:03 PM
is it true that it's illegal in the USA?

umm i dont think so. they dont ask what is your previous relationship, i think.

bint
01-01-07, 08:03 PM
What if your wedding gift was a Gallardo?


whats a gallardo?

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:04 PM
whats a gallardo?

http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Lamborghini%20Gallardo%20Yellow%202%20-%201024x768.jpg

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:04 PM
whats a gallardo?

Lamborghini Gallardo.

Its a car.

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:05 PM
http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Lamborghini%20Gallardo%20Yellow%202%20-%201024x768.jpg

lol i had that as my wallpaper.

bint
01-01-07, 08:05 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo.

Its a car.


omg lamborghini? :eek:

id marry a guy for a car:hidban: :(

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:05 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo.

Its a car.

Check out the 'Dream Car' thread. I lose breath when I see those pics..:embar:

Eemaan
01-01-07, 08:06 PM
I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.

:D

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:06 PM
omg lamborghini? :eek:

id marry a guy for a car:hidban: :(

My friend has one.

http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/crx/gallery/city-cabrio.jpg

I'll contact him with your offer..

bint
01-01-07, 08:07 PM
My friend has one.

http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/crx/gallery/city-cabrio.jpg

I'll contact him with your offer..


:rotfl:

poor guy

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:07 PM
Check out the 'Dream Car' thread. I lose breath when I see those pics..:embar:

what iv never heard of that thread. but the thing is that some people just say that the most expensive and fastest car is their fav. for example, recently the Bugatti Veyron gained some popularity and everyone is like ....oooo my favvv.

but me, iv been in love with lambos from a very young age.....and there are faster and more expensive cars out there.

To me, nothing looks better than Lambos.

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:09 PM
I love the Ford GT :D That and the Ferrari Spider are my dream cars

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:11 PM
I love the Ford GT :D That and the Ferrari Spider are my dream cars


lol GT is actually a very nice car for a ford. And cheap too compared to other cars with similar specs. Leave the spider for the ladies lol.

bint
01-01-07, 08:13 PM
wharra about the blak range rover sport:hidban:

Kal-El
01-01-07, 08:14 PM
wharra about the blak range rover sport:hidban:

You mean the 'London Tank'? I see them everywhere..they look nice though. I love the Interior!

bint
01-01-07, 08:15 PM
You mean the 'London Tank'? I see them everywhere..they look nice though. I love the Interior!
i dunno bout the landon tank but err
loool...hmmm:D

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:16 PM
wharra about the blak range rover sport:hidban:

oo i love range rovers....you might think that the Range is just luxury, but if you take that SUV of road it will perform like a jeep or better.

id it true, that the range is the "humvee" of the british armed forces?

bint
01-01-07, 08:17 PM
oo i love range rovers....you might think that the Range is just luxury, but if you take that SUV of road it will perform like a jeep or better.

id it true, that the range is the "humvee" of the british armed forces?


hmmmm:inlove:

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 08:18 PM
another nice SUV is the Porsche Cayenne Turbo. Nice.

nami
01-01-07, 08:24 PM
I would marry a cousin, but none of my cousins are practicing muslimahs... Infact, I think I am the only one from all my relatives who tries to follow islam who is under 60! i got the typical relatives, i.e. we will enjoy our life and when we are near the end of our life we will start praying...

I can't marry anyone who is not a practicing muslimah.

So, yes I would marry a cousin if she was a good honest practicing muslimah.

MalikOne™
01-01-07, 08:26 PM
I see my cousins as my brothers and sisters anyway.


nope^ for dat reason

nami
01-01-07, 08:27 PM
same it'd be very weird

I don't think of my cousins as brothers or sisters, I think I have only seen them a couple of times in my life.

MalikOne™
01-01-07, 08:29 PM
I don't think of my cousins as brothers or sisters, I think I have only seen them a couple of times in my life.

u kno what some pakis are like, I practically grew up wit my cuzins

nami
01-01-07, 08:31 PM
u kno what some pakis are like, I practically grew up wit my cuzins

Yep its true!

But I'm paki, I don't know what most of my cousins look like, come to think of it, I don't know half of their names...

Phoenix CG
01-01-07, 08:32 PM
Bro ur threads no good man, the sisters are going crazy

MMS
01-01-07, 08:35 PM
I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.

:D

astaghfirullah :vomit::vomit::vomit:

Abu Muslim
01-01-07, 08:40 PM
Whats worse? Not wanting to marry your cousin or seeing your marryable [?] cousin as your sister/brother i.e a non mahrem and being close to them, same as being close to a random woman/guy off the street.

And the answer is not not wanting to marrry your cousin.

p.s someone mentioned gallardo, you know how we roll *cool bearded bro*

Eemaan
01-01-07, 08:42 PM
astaghfirullah :vomit::vomit::vomit:

gallardos aint that bad sis :D

it was on in a shop i was in today :(

Masumah
01-01-07, 08:44 PM
would u :hidban:



y not?

bint
01-01-07, 08:45 PM
gallardos aint that bad sis :D

it was on in a shop i was in today :(


loool..

reckon i shud ask for forgiveness..:D

`asiya
01-01-07, 08:46 PM
/\ lol

No I would not marry a cousin; I've never been comfortable with the concept of it because I see my cousins as my brothers and sisters anyway.


maybe this is the problem, Allahu alam see cousins are not mahram and children should not be raised to see their cousins as if they are some kind of "brother" or "sister" cousins are complete strangers to us, like any other stranger, and until u are married to them, u should not be sitting alone with them, speaking to them, or "hanging out" with them or being so free with them in anyway shape or form alone not on the phone, not on the net, not by letter, by e-mail or anything else we can think of , cousins are not mahrams, they are not pseudo "brothers" or "sisters" they are strangers to us in terms of Islamic ettiquette and marriage khalass,

...and no i wouldnt marry my male cousin cos hes not a muslim :rolleyes:

MMS
01-01-07, 08:52 PM
gallardos aint that bad sis :D

it was on in a shop i was in today :(

what is ur mothers telephone number :torture:

Ibn Khattab
01-01-07, 08:55 PM
blad all im sayin my cuzins baaaf ya get me


mashallah :D

bosnian_sis
01-01-07, 09:01 PM
No, I wouldn´t do it!

It would make more sherr than khair in our society/family, cause it´s not usual.

Abdulah
01-01-07, 09:04 PM
Marrying my cousin would be weird so i would never do it.

Guvna
01-01-07, 09:10 PM
nah couldnt do non of that business.... :rubeyes:

bint
01-01-07, 09:11 PM
nah couldnt do non of that business.... :rubeyes:


:rotfl:

MalikOne™
01-01-07, 09:11 PM
blad all im sayin my cuzins baaaf ya get me

yea masha'Allah

u gotta hook a brother up :p

:outta:

Guvna
01-01-07, 09:12 PM
:rotfl:

welll ermrmmmm.. could yu?!?! i meaan... kown che.. ermmmm ohh yeh.. editteeeddd!! :coolbro:

bint
01-01-07, 09:13 PM
komitaa..picassa.a...:hidban:

:vomit:

not my shtyle..too punky n edit ure post now:torture: watchin people..:(

Nusayba bint Ka'b
01-01-07, 09:14 PM
maybe this is the problem, Allahu alam see cousins are not mahram and children should not be raised to see their cousins as if they are some kind of "brother" or "sister" cousins are complete strangers to us, like any other stranger, and until u are married to them, u should not be sitting alone with them, speaking to them, or "hanging out" with them or being so free with them in anyway shape or form alone not on the phone, not on the net, not by letter, by e-mail or anything else we can think of , cousins are not mahrams, they are not pseudo "brothers" or "sisters" they are strangers to us in terms of Islamic ettiquette and marriage khalass,

...and no i wouldnt marry my male cousin cos hes not a muslim :rolleyes:

:up: so true, the ones who hug and kiss their male cousins and males who hug their female cousins :vomit: should take note of ur post sis!

my sis is married to a cousin and they have the cutest kid ever mashaAllah.:love:

Phoenix CG
01-01-07, 09:15 PM
no more threads li|<e these now! haha, account dissabled :p

.: Rashid :.
01-01-07, 09:15 PM
blad all im sayin my cuzins baaaf ya get me

LOL :D

yea masha'Allah

u gotta hook a brother up :p

:outta:

:rofl1: :rotfl:

-Rashid

cl@rity
01-01-07, 09:28 PM
whats rong with marrying ur cuzin? excuse me but if u didnt have close relationships with them in the first place then maybe u wudnt see it in such negative light! and just on THAT note..IM gonna marry MY cuzin!.. now who has an issue wiv dat? :torture:

nami
01-01-07, 09:29 PM
whats rong with marrying ur cuzin? excuse me but if u didnt have close relationships with them in the first place then maybe u wudnt see it in such negative light! and just on THAT note..IM gonna marry MY cuzin!.. now who has an issue wiv dat? :torture:

thats good, i never said there was anything wrong with it.

bint
01-01-07, 09:30 PM
whats rong with marrying ur cuzin? excuse me but if u didnt have close relationships with them in the first place then maybe u wudnt see it in such negative light! and just on THAT note..IM gonna marry MY cuzin!.. now who has an issue wiv dat? :torture:


i do....




beat me:D

Abdulah
01-01-07, 09:33 PM
I heard 1/100 of those who have children with their cousin the child has problems throughout life and needs full time care. Is this true?

cl@rity
01-01-07, 09:38 PM
bint..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :torture: and yes, kids do be special needs if the families are too intermingled i.e. if i marry my 1st cuzin and my sis marries his brother, then my kids and my sisters kids marry each other and then they have kids (dodgy kids)..if that makes any sense ??

nami
01-01-07, 09:40 PM
bint..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :torture: and yes, kids do be special needs if the families are too intermingled i.e. if i marry my 1st cuzin and my sis marries his brother, then my kids and my sisters kids marry each other and then they have kids (dodgy kids)..if that makes any sense ??

that is soo dangerous!

my friend is in that situation i.e. he and his sister got married to relatives, who are also brother and sister.

now my friend is in the middle of a divorce and it is affecting his sisters marriage big time because my friends wife is his sisters husbands sister.

bint
01-01-07, 09:41 PM
bint..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :torture: and yes, kids do be special needs if the families are too intermingled i.e. if i marry my 1st cuzin and my sis marries his brother, then my kids and my sisters kids marry each other and then they have kids (dodgy kids)..if that makes any sense ??


:rotfl:

just jokin sis clarity..ure wikd u know that/?:D

Masumah
01-01-07, 09:57 PM
:p..at clarity

Rameez
01-01-07, 10:05 PM
I dont wanna marry my cousin! Although my parents are trying to slowly force me :(

bint
01-01-07, 10:07 PM
I dont wanna marry my cousin! Although my parents are trying to slowly force me :(


u say no mannn...i have someone else in mind:hidban:

Rameez
01-01-07, 10:08 PM
u say no mannn...i have someone else in mind:hidban:

Yep inshAllah thats what im gonna say the next time they bring the topic up! I so hate it when they use the emotional blackmail! "This how you repay us?" etc etc

Abdelrhman
01-01-07, 10:10 PM
:salams

I wouldn't. If I'm not mistaken, Prophet Muhammad :saw: said to avoid marrying family if you can? Alhamdulilah, there are other choices out there so no.

bint
01-01-07, 10:11 PM
Yep inshAllah thats what im gonna say the next time they bring the topic up! I so hate it when they use the emotional blackmail! "This how you repay us?" etc etc


ims o sorry to hear that..

its very sad..i was just atlking to someone about that:o

Kal-El
01-01-07, 10:13 PM
maybe this is the problem, Allahu alam see cousins are not mahram and children should not be raised to see their cousins as if they are some kind of "brother" or "sister" cousins are complete strangers to us, like any other stranger, and until u are married to them, u should not be sitting alone with them, speaking to them, or "hanging out" with them or being so free with them in anyway shape or form alone not on the phone, not on the net, not by letter, by e-mail or anything else we can think of , cousins are not mahrams, they are not pseudo "brothers" or "sisters" they are strangers to us in terms of Islamic ettiquette and marriage khalass,

...and no i wouldnt marry my male cousin cos hes not a muslim :rolleyes:

Although I understand your point, being raised up with a large family - seeing your cousins from day one and growing up with them - I think is different context to what it is deem "non mahram", you know what I mean?

If people grew separately, then yes attraction could come into and thus lead somewhere..but with your own "brother", or "sister"? It wouldn't happen so I guess that's why families don't mind raising all the kids up together.

Brotherhood, or sisterhood is not just in the bloods.

`asiya
01-01-07, 10:27 PM
Although I understand your point, being raised up with a large family - seeing your cousins from day one and growing up with them - I think is different context to what it is deem "non mahram", you know what I mean?

If people grew separately, then yes attraction could come into and thus lead somewhere..but with your own "brother", or "sister"? It wouldn't happen so I guess that's why families don't mind raising all the kids up together.

Brotherhood, or sisterhood is not just in the bloods.


no i dont see what u mean, they are not your mahrams wether u grow up in a large family or not is irellevant it is haram for u when u reach the age of puberty to be hanging out with any female cousin, chatting to her in private,nor can she be around a non mahram ( her males cousins) without her hijab, and they are not your "brothers" or "sisters" they are the same as any other strange woman to you that u could marry,and they are not your mahram at all,in any way shape or form, no matter how u may see them.

Tell me would u sit chit-chatting to women treating them, and speaking to them like they are your blood sisters alone or in public, or in your home, or at anyone elses home, and mixing so freely with them as seems to be the case with your cousins? no i should hope not, this is something completely forbidden in Islam, and will bring the wrath of Allah ta ala upon you , and there is no escaping that at all.

Abdelrhman
01-01-07, 10:28 PM
:salams

I think families pressuring their children to marry cousins is very sad indeed. I think the parents just want to feel secure because they know the background about the person and stuff. They don't want to go thru the headache of finding a good spouse when there's one available in the family.
I don't agree with that at all. I'd rather add to my family rather than just 'recycling' the same ppl :O lol

Plus if there are any problems in the marriage (God forbid) then there will be problems in the family as a result, and that's not good at all.

Also, Islam encourages diversity, so sticking to the same family for generations isn't really diverse at all...too boring.

Lu'Lu
01-01-07, 10:33 PM
If people grew separately, then yes attraction could come into and thus lead somewhere..but with your own "brother", or "sister"? It wouldn't happen so I guess that's why families don't mind raising all the kids up together.

Brotherhood, or sisterhood is not just in the bloods.


I dont agree with that. In fact sometimes it can be a lot worse. I have an aunt with 6 children, everyone of which had a 'love marriage' with a first cousin. These are cousins who lived with each other, during the summer holidays, stayed over at each others and I myself witnessed the 'courting' that began from the age of about 13. Kids are innocent when young and just see another child of the opposite sex as a mere playmate. But if you dont keep an eye on them, shaytaan starts playing with their minds and before they know it, they end up falling for each other. As they grow older, they change physically etc and Allah (SWT) has made men and women have this natural inclination towards the opposite sex from the moment they hit puberty. Its up to the adults to limit contact and socialising from the moment kids become baaligh, or even before as most kids are quite aware, so as to speak from around the age of 7 upwards. Whether or not they are brought up in the same house, it is a big big risk and it happens a lot..

Alhumdulillah Allah (SWT) protected me and my siblings from that fitnah, especially since our Mum would keep a very very close eye on us and more than that, the other kids around us.

Masumah
01-01-07, 10:33 PM
i agree abdel rahman..it is gud to ave a famlily wid ppls of different bakgrounds..after all Allah created the nations and tribes so they may recognise one another. :up:

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 10:36 PM
Why is it that people love hanging out with their cousins so much?

bint
01-01-07, 10:37 PM
Why is it that people love hanging out with their cousins so much?


ure at ure cousins right now arent you?:D

ask ureself?

Lambo5688
01-01-07, 10:38 PM
ure at ure cousins right now arent you?:D

ask ureself?

lol tru

Cousins are just so fun to be around.

Masumah
01-01-07, 10:39 PM
in our families we wernt close to our male cusins..however our parents nerver taught us that hijab had to be observed in front of them adn that they wer ghair mahram..it is only recently we started rebellin and ave managed to get sumwhee..our parents do hold the veiw.."its ok beti hes ur brother!!"...no no no..u dont be singing that tune wen u cum and say "u are going to mary him beti :p"...argh!! i hate culture :torture:

bint
01-01-07, 10:39 PM
lol tru

Cousins are just so fun to be around.


wasnt so hard was it?:D

Rameez
01-01-07, 10:40 PM
:salams

I think families pressuring their children to marry cousins is very sad indeed. I think the parents just want to feel secure because they know the background about the person and stuff. They don't want to go thru the headache of finding a good spouse when there's one available in the family.
I don't agree with that at all. I'd rather add to my family rather than just 'recycling' the same ppl :O lol

Plus if there are any problems in the marriage (God forbid) then there will be problems in the family as a result, and that's not good at all.

Also, Islam encourages diversity, so sticking to the same family for generations isn't really diverse at all...too boring.

True say brother, the main reason is due to the so called "Respect" from other people back home in the town. They also think that if there are to be any problems between the husband and wife then the problems will stay internal, rather then being humiliated infront of family freinds etc.

It seems they dont really consider the well being of me, rather careing about what people will say. Ive also been told by my parents that the women in this society are "heartless" and that over minor arguments she will leave me along side with my children. The prime example im given from my parents is "Imran Khan" how his marraige went downhill. I tell em that not all women are how they think.

Gota continue making Dua inshAllah :)

Lu'Lu
01-01-07, 10:42 PM
The prime example im given from my parents is "Imran Khan" how his marraige went downhill. I tell em that not all women are how they think.

LOL you poor thing.........!!!!! What an example?!!! Khayr inshaAllah keep making dua and Allah will make it easy for you.

`asiya
01-01-07, 10:42 PM
in our families we wernt close to our male cusins..however our parents nerver taught us that hijab had to be observed in front of them adn that they wer ghair mahram..it is only recently we started rebellin and ave managed to get sumwhee..our parents do hold the veiw.."its ok beti hes ur brother!!"...no no no..u dont be singing that tune wen u cum and say "u are going to mary him beti :p"...argh!! i hate culture :torture:

sooo true sis subhanAllah

Rameez
01-01-07, 10:43 PM
LOL you poor thing.........!!!!! What an example?!!! Khayr inshaAllah keep making dua and Allah will make it easy for you.

hehe inshAllah :)

uhkt_al'muminun
02-01-07, 01:03 AM
well if my cousin is some scholar, sheikh, imam or wat ever well then hey i aint gonna front and say no :D i guess it all comes down to wanting a spouse to benefit you and the fam with kahir in this dunya and akhirah...

but really i couldnt see it happening wid any of my cuzins but all the best to those who do :D

caribbeansistah
02-01-07, 04:41 AM
ASSALAMUALIKUM
I was all against marrying in the family until one of my cousins propose to me ,we never spoke or anything prior to the proposal I said NO:hidban: !!no way was i marrying my first cousin....my parents made out he was the best guy ever to walk the earth he was a nice guy yeah .....butttt not what i wanted .....apart from the guy u have to look at his family . I think it's not a very great idea for the youth of today to marry cousins hey i'm not discoraging anyone here .....I think it causes more friction and disunity between the families than unity...... i've seen it and also i think it's rather dull ,if you've known the family all u're life ......i think marriage should be to someone u don't know but u get to know them learn new stuff new ideas etc.....

Te'oma
02-01-07, 05:39 AM
would u :hidban:

nope...most of my genepool is shallow enough as it is :D

~Soul~
02-01-07, 05:52 AM
nope i wouldnt wanna get married to ma cuzines :D

Eemaan
02-01-07, 03:58 PM
loool..

reckon i shud ask for forgiveness..:D

:inlove: dint do nuttin bints :D

Refugee
02-01-07, 04:04 PM
i wont - never :bangbang:

Fais
02-01-07, 04:15 PM
i wont - never :bangbang:

Yea same.

Abu Muslim
02-01-07, 08:24 PM
If you married your cousin, your mother in law would be your auntie *smacks head*

Its much better to spread the Ummah so we can have amazing races like chinese nigerians [yet to see that one]

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:32 PM
i woudnt marry my first cousin, but like distantly related? :rolleyes:

Chained_Water
02-01-07, 08:35 PM
Even if you wouldn't personally, there is no need to look down on it like it. It is allowed so should be down to personal circumstances and choice.

Does it really matter if anyone would or wouldn't?! Why does anyone care?

The only issue surrounding this is when parents force it on their kids or when there may be health issues to take into consideration.. such as hereditary illnesses and if marriage in family would make that more likely in your kids etc..

bint
02-01-07, 08:36 PM
i woudnt marry my first cousin, but like distantly related? :rolleyes:
whats distantly related?:)

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:40 PM
whats distantly related?:)

like related but not first cousins init :up:

aragorn

bint
02-01-07, 08:41 PM
like related but not first cousins init :up:

aragorn


yeah but we all related in one way or another so that dont count as cousin...get married!

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:46 PM
yeah but we all related in one way or another so that dont count as cousin...get married!

yeh but like you knw people who still are part of your extended family but not too close like first cousins but not too far if ya get me :p

ur older u shud get married first

bint
02-01-07, 08:48 PM
yeh but like you knw people who still are part of your extended family but not too close like first cousins but not too far if ya get me :p

ur older u shud get married first


nah i dont get ya:rubeyes: :D

i look young

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:49 PM
nah i dont get ya:rubeyes: :D

i look young

well re read my post init and think it over to urself :D

i look muuuch yunga

Eemaan
02-01-07, 08:49 PM
Ibn Khattab too funny, you saw last night thread? :rubeyes:

bint
02-01-07, 08:51 PM
well re read my post init and think it over to urself :D

i look muuuch yunga


i have..i stik with my opinion..oh a fact i shud say:D

uve lost admit it

Ibn Khattab too funny, you saw last night thread? :rubeyes:


:rotfl:

*chant*

want a repeat??? he he

Eemaan
02-01-07, 08:53 PM
dont you dare bint! :D last night was really pushing it:rofl1:

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:54 PM
Ibn Khattab too funny, you saw last night thread? :rubeyes:

nah i didnt where is it?:D

i have..i stik with my opinion..oh a fact i shud say:D

uve lost admit it


ok lol ;) ;) if ya cnt understant tht then i worry for ya:up:

ur older so u shud marry first na na na naanaaaaaaaa *sticks tongue out*

bint
02-01-07, 08:55 PM
dont you dare bint! :D last night was really pushing it:rofl1:

aww mann..i need to:o it was such a releasssee grrrrr:D

nah i didnt where is it?:D



ok lol ;) ;) if ya cnt understant tht then i worry for ya:up:

ur older so u shud marry first na na na naanaaaaaaaa *sticks tongue out*

okay i wil..im married to me lappy:rubeyes:

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 08:59 PM
aww mann..i need to:o it was such a releasssee grrrrr:D



okay i wil..im married to me lappy:rubeyes:

May God give u strength to stay away from drugs :p

*sings* its happenin more n more each day, these drugs makin our sisters crazy :p :D

Chained_Water
02-01-07, 09:00 PM
cam down ppl

bint
02-01-07, 09:01 PM
May God give u strength to stay away from drugs :p

*sings* its happenin more n more each day, these drugs makin our sisters crazy :p :D


:rotfl:

aye aye the marijuana..got a *cough* baddd ahem *cough* COUGH!:D


sorr CW maaf karna:(

Ibn Khattab
02-01-07, 09:02 PM
cam down ppl

ve r cool as cucumber

-Shamil-
02-01-07, 09:12 PM
two of my cousins married two of my cousins - it didnt work out

just though id share that

Jihaan
05-01-07, 04:35 PM
hell yeah!

Al-ghurabah
05-01-07, 04:38 PM
hell yeah!

why hell teah

Al-ghurabah
05-01-07, 04:38 PM
dont they say interm ariages have more chance of child being weak or sumthing having disabilites

Jihaan
05-01-07, 08:18 PM
why hell teah

i have nice cousins in pakistan :)

H_2
05-01-07, 08:22 PM
I aint got no nice cousins to marry :outta:

Kal-El
05-01-07, 09:08 PM
I have never known anyone from my generation not minding if they were to marry their cousins. They are all against it.

Does anyone else think age could have something to do with this?

bint
05-01-07, 09:11 PM
I have never known anyone from my generation not minding if they were to marry their cousins. They are all against it.

Does anyone else think age could have something to do with this?



age is to do alot with marriage itself..so i cant see what u mean when u mention cousins?

Kal-El
05-01-07, 09:16 PM
I meant that as people get older, they have lesser preferences in terms to their "ideal" spouse.

E.g. When he was 19 years old, he would never dream of marrying a cousin. 10 years past, he's still single, and considers marrying his cousin.

bint
05-01-07, 09:17 PM
I meant that as people get older, they have lesser preferences in terms to their "ideal" spouse.

E.g. When he was 19 years old, he would never dream of marrying a cousin. 10 years past, he's still single, and considers marrying his cousin.



hmm to marry a cousin may just get easier thats all i guess.

Kal-El
05-01-07, 09:22 PM
age is to do alot with marriage itself..so i cant see what u mean when u mention cousins?

hmm to marry a cousin may just get easier

;)

bint
05-01-07, 09:22 PM
;)


:S

come again?

Kal-El
05-01-07, 09:24 PM
:S

come again?

Lost in translation. Never mind

umm_huraiyrah
05-01-07, 09:25 PM
NO WAY!!!!!

Sister Habiba

bint
05-01-07, 09:26 PM
Lost in translation. Never mind


i get so much of this nowadays..

'oh doesnt matter'
'never mind'
'cant b assed'
ill tell u another time'

unexplained stff..and its really knocking me out!

miss-ali
05-01-07, 09:47 PM
i get so much of this nowadays..

'oh doesnt matter'
'never mind'
'cant b assed'
ill tell u another time'

unexplained stff..and its really knocking me out!
its quite frustrating when people don't explain themselves fully, i do it quite often :embar:

Noor
05-01-07, 10:20 PM
To all those referring to the "disability and cousin marriages" theory - guess what- its a bogus theory!

Ask yourself do you believe in science more than Allah (swt)??

If there was really such serious harm involved in marrying your first cousins do you really think Allah (swt) would have made it Halal?

The chances of disability are the same whether you marry a cousin or not because at the end of the day its all in Allah (swt) hands.

Furthermore to those on "cousins are like my bro/sis and wouldn't marry them " brigadge..... well guess what- they're not ur bro/sis they are your cousins and will be ghayr mehram to you for the rest of your life unless you marry them. So it doesn't really work as a reason for not marrying them.

H_2
05-01-07, 10:28 PM
^ Thats a refreshing way to look at it!

Kal-El
05-01-07, 10:33 PM
Furthermore to those on "cousins are like my bro/sis and wouldn't marry them " brigadge..... well guess what- they're not ur bro/sis they are your cousins and will be ghayr mehram to you for the rest of your life unless you marry them. So it doesn't really work as a reason for not marrying them.

They were raised with each other - as brothers and sisters. Ofcourse technically they are not brothers and sisters, but they treat each other so. Non-Mehram is irrelevant in that context, they were small children.

But because they still remember those memories of their childhood, they also remember how they deemed each other (brother/sister); so they are very close emotionally because of this past.

Its more psychological than physical. In fact, it's not physical at all. So it's perfectly fine for people to be apart of this brigade.

MMS
05-01-07, 10:43 PM
To all those referring to the "disability and cousin marriages" theory - guess what- its a bogus theory!

Ask yourself do you believe in science more than Allah (swt)??

If there was really such serious harm involved in marrying your first cousins do you really think Allah (swt) would have made it Halal?

The chances of disability are the same whether you marry a cousin or not because at the end of the day its all in Allah (swt) hands.

Furthermore to those on "cousins are like my bro/sis and wouldn't marry them " brigadge..... well guess what- they're not ur bro/sis they are your cousins and will be ghayr mehram to you for the rest of your life unless you marry them. So it doesn't really work as a reason for not marrying them.

i thought it was something to do with hereditary diseases, both parents might carry the gene so the child will then inherit it from both parents, summin like that

but it is a very slim chance

Chained_Water
05-01-07, 10:47 PM
Just because its ok to marry cousins doesn't automatically mean that it must be impossible for it to cause health problems if generation after generation people keep marrying into their cousins.

`asiya
05-01-07, 10:51 PM
To all those referring to the "disability and cousin marriages" theory - guess what- its a bogus theory!

Ask yourself do you believe in science more than Allah (swt)??

If there was really such serious harm involved in marrying your first cousins do you really think Allah (swt) would have made it Halal?

The chances of disability are the same whether you marry a cousin or not because at the end of the day its all in Allah (swt) hands.

Furthermore to those on "cousins are like my bro/sis and wouldn't marry them " brigadge..... well guess what- they're not ur bro/sis they are your cousins and will be ghayr mehram to you for the rest of your life unless you marry them. So it doesn't really work as a reason for not marrying them.

BarakAllahu feeki sis amin, everything is with Allah ta ala, if its good enough for Muhammad salallahu alleyhi wa salam, who married his first cousin Zainab bint jash then its certainly good enough for us :up:

Al-Irhaab
06-01-07, 12:26 AM
BarakAllahu feeki sis amin, everything is with Allah ta ala, if its good enough for Muhammad salallahu alleyhi wa salam, who married his first cousin Zainab bint jash then its certainly good enough for us :up:

yup also aisha (ra) was related to him quite closely, also fatima (ra) and ali (ra) were very closely related...

MalikOne™
06-01-07, 12:44 AM
Tha way I see tings is frm my own shortcomings der is obviously wisdom behind it because Allah swt decreed it, I jus havent seen it yet (which i kno is no excuse but still)

Lost_Princess
07-01-07, 12:53 AM
I think its better if you marry out the family, you bring in more people to the family aswell, not just the same boring faces :D

I AGREE WITH THAT TOTALLY LOL AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE THE SAME BORING RELATIVES I WANT A WHOLE DIFFERENT SIDE SEE HOW THERE FAMILY BEHAVES COMPARED TO MINE :):) :D

meer
07-01-07, 03:54 AM
I AGREE WITH THAT TOTALLY LOL AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE THE SAME BORING RELATIVES I WANT A WHOLE DIFFERENT SIDE SEE HOW THERE FAMILY BEHAVES COMPARED TO MINE :):) :D

But I dont agree with you princess. I beleave one should prefer to do marriage near by his releatives,friends, or known person. By this way we can get a good life partner who we have seen from the begning and we can get suitable life partner. because we known about there families, customs etc. but outside people some time we can't beleave unless they are in touch for some time.

Lost_Princess
07-01-07, 07:30 AM
that is why u get engaged before marriage get to know the person really well u dont just jump into a marriage :):):)

MG
07-01-07, 07:46 AM
that is why u get engaged before marriage get to know the person really well u dont just jump into a marriage :):):)


there is no such thing as "engagement" in islam ,this is a non-muslim concept and does not exist in our religion.

meer
07-01-07, 07:46 AM
that is why u get engaged before marriage get to know the person really well u dont just jump into a marriage :):):)

U just can't unsustand people in a short period of time. to just making engagement before marriage. Definetly they will treat U in a very good till U get married. anyhow!
I am a boy and I prefer to do marriage who I known very will. because I don't want to make my life **** after marriage. because I want every thing should be in a properway. I don't want to cry like fool after making mistake:D

MG
07-01-07, 07:48 AM
Just because its ok to marry cousins doesn't automatically mean that it must be impossible for it to cause health problems if generation after generation people keep marrying into their cousins.

sis i disagree, why would Allah SWT allow something to be lawful when it could have a possibililty of causing harm to a servant?

meer
07-01-07, 07:53 AM
sis i disagree, why would Allah SWT allow something to be lawful when it could have a possibililty of causing harm to a servant?

yaa I 100% agree with you sis!

marriage with cousin there is no harm at all.

$HugoBoss$
22-02-07, 03:21 AM
Ewww i think it's gross, i treat all my female cousins like my sisters, i seriously don't know how people do it. :scratch:

Quest
22-02-07, 03:44 AM
i dont have any older 1st cousins, i may marry distant ones, if i was pleased with them.

Ewww i think it's gross, i treat all my female cousins like my sisters, i seriously don't know how people do it. :scratch:

dont say that, what does that say about the one who made it lawfull?
in my opinion comments like that accuse Allah of legislating filth.

$HugoBoss$
22-02-07, 03:48 AM
i dont have any older 1st cousins, i may marry distant ones, if i was pleased with them.



dont say that, what does that say about the one who made it lawfull?
in my opinion comments like that accuse Allah of legislating filth.

Ok i think i did make it sound kind of bad and i know allah has made it halal but i don't think it's for everyone thats all. No need to get offended, it's just personal preference and there's nothing wrong with that.

Quest
22-02-07, 03:53 AM
maybe this is the problem, Allahu alam see cousins are not mahram and children should not be raised to see their cousins as if they are some kind of "brother" or "sister" cousins are complete strangers to us, like any other stranger, and until u are married to them, u should not be sitting alone with them, speaking to them, or "hanging out" with them or being so free with them in anyway shape or form alone not on the phone, not on the net, not by letter, by e-mail or anything else we can think of , cousins are not mahrams, they are not pseudo "brothers" or "sisters" they are strangers to us in terms of Islamic ettiquette and marriage khalass,

...and no i wouldnt marry my male cousin cos hes not a muslim :rolleyes:


i learnt this the hard way. i have a cousin who i saw like a brother.
when i started practicing, wearing hijab infront of him seemed alien like.

to the extent i would realise had to after 5 mins of sitting in the same room:rubeyes: man that took some getting use to.

Quest
22-02-07, 03:55 AM
Ok i think i did make it sound kind of bad and i know allah has made it halal but i don't think it's for everyone thats all. No need to get offended, it's just personal preference and there's nothing wrong with that.

am not offended by ur personal choice, every man to his own.
personaly i doubt i would marry a 1st cousin even if i had one who was older and suitable, i dont mind folks related to me thru tribe who are distant relatives tho.

i was just trying to show u that remark was a bit off if u think carefully abt it. sorry 2 put u on the spot didnt intend to.

we cool?

PtPeach
22-02-07, 04:10 AM
In my opinion, it's alright, since Allah said that we could. But I wouldn't, because none of my cousins are Muslims.

$HugoBoss$
22-02-07, 04:10 AM
am not offended by ur personal choice, every man to his own.
personaly i doubt i would marry a 1st cousin even if i had one who was older and suitable, i dont mind folks related to me thru tribe who are distant relatives tho.

i was just trying to show u that remark was a bit off if u think carefully abt it. sorry 2 put u on the spot didnt intend to.

we cool?

Yeah your right i shouldn't have said it, it should have been phrased more appropriately and possibly it could have offend some people on here didn't even think about it actually, my bad. Yes yes were cool as ice always :up:

Quest we should never let small things like this get in between brothers and sisters it's just the devil doing his job trying to inflict hate and disgust for eachother. Jazakallah for correcting me your welcome to do it anytime :up:

Lost_Princess
22-02-07, 08:14 AM
i went to my home country recently and some of my cousins wanted my hand in marriage i was like eewwwl like even though i have never met them before they are blood related and i want someone from a complete different family and culture too and besides that im in no hurry to get married ive got my life to live and i dont need a headache in my life not now anyways lol :D:D:D:D

Refugee
22-02-07, 08:17 AM
And what happens if you have no cousins? *Roll Eyes*

or your cousins are already married *Roll Eyes*

Medievalist
22-02-07, 08:44 AM
sis i disagree, why would Allah SWT allow something to be lawful when it could have a possibililty of causing harm to a servant?

absolutely true.

I remember once my first Ustadji was talking about this in the Jumu'ah Khutbah. He was speaking along the lines that the Paak Quran is holy and pure and its laws are holy and pure and immutable. When ALLAH Ta'ala has Himself declared to the Nabi :saw: in Suratul Ahzaab that His Noble Cousins on all four sides are pure and clean for Him :saw: then what is this science? Hadrat went on to say that these people say jaraseem (germs/bacteria/disease) are spread by cousin-marriages whereas these people come out from the toilet without washing even their hands, these people dont use water for istanja, these people walk around in haalat e janabat for days on end. Its these filthy practices that spread disease not marrying yr cousin.

I believe in ALLAH and reject the science (basically cos the science is flawed)

Hayati
22-02-07, 09:15 AM
No!!! All of my cousins are younger than me and non-muslims :D

umm Asiya
22-02-07, 09:24 AM
Forget the cars, lol
forget the looks lol
forget the money, the fame n all

Question is...even if you do marry your cousin, or marry someone from outside then think! am i marrying that person coz he/she is pretty, or coz he has a lovely car, or that maybe he/she has a lot of popularity. My opinion is choose someone for the hereafter yeah, who you know you can inshaAllah dwell with in jannah, ameen.
Those cars, money etc...not getn no1 anywer lolzzz

seriusly, i read this post and atleast us sisterz and brothers have a islamic perspective to the topics, however their are still so many other posts on other forums where i have observed that they want sum1 with the qualities that suit them (and why not) but only for this life, from all those things nothing actually takes them on the road to jannah. Allah hu allam

bornschlocky
22-02-07, 09:25 AM
There is an increased risk of genetic abnormaility occurring with each inter-marriage. Don't lie to yourselves, seriously.

sally29
22-02-07, 09:26 AM
no bcos i hate my cousins, they r more richer than me they look down on me, so i wouldnt marry them.

bornschlocky
22-02-07, 09:28 AM
absolutely true.

I remember once my first Ustadji was talking about this in the Jumu'ah Khutbah. He was speaking along the lines that the Paak Quran is holy and pure and its laws are holy and pure and immutable. When ALLAH Ta'ala has Himself declared to the Nabi :saw: in Suratul Ahzaab that His Noble Cousins on all four sides are pure and clean for Him :saw: then what is this science? Hadrat went on to say that these people say jaraseem (germs/bacteria/disease) are spread by cousin-marriages whereas these people come out from the toilet without washing even their hands, these people dont use water for istanja, these people walk around in haalat e janabat for days on end. Its these filthy practices that spread disease not marrying yr cousin.

I believe in ALLAH and reject the science (basically cos the science is flawed)


No- your Ustadji is. Yes disease is spread by lack of hand washing but the passing of genes i.e. the appearance of recessive gene phenotypes has absoluely nothing to do with unwashed hands. What a load of illiterate trash.

.: hayat :.
22-02-07, 02:57 PM
would u :hidban:

:D not as i borned in a christian family and it is not allowed to marry cousins and also i have just 2 cousins younger then me ...

umm_huraiyrah
22-02-07, 03:09 PM
Assalam Alaikum

Well, I know it's a common practice in Islam. But is not a common practice within my family. Don't get me wrong my great grandparents were cousins and they married. But my family raised me that it's wrong. Keep it out of the family. So I'd have to say no I wouldn't marry my cousin.

Habiba

Quest
22-02-07, 03:16 PM
Yeah your right i shouldn't have said it, it should have been phrased more appropriately and possibly it could have offend some people on here didn't even think about it actually, my bad. Yes yes were cool as ice always :up:

Quest we should never let small things like this get in between brothers and sisters it's just the devil doing his job trying to inflict hate and disgust for eachother. Jazakallah for correcting me your welcome to do it anytime :up:

thats the way bro. barakallahu feek waeyak:up:

MMS
22-02-07, 06:15 PM
hell yeah!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

i have nice cousins in pakistan :)

u do?? :rubeyes:

ur_yusra
22-02-07, 06:21 PM
Speaking hypothetically since I don't have cousins erm I would have to say no.. I wouldnt.

.: Anna :.
22-02-07, 06:25 PM
Speaking hypothetically since I don't have cousins erm I would have to say no.. I wouldnt.u dont have ne cousins at all??

ur_yusra
22-02-07, 06:28 PM
u dont have ne cousins at all??

lol.. Yeh I have three cousins who are female.. and one male cousin who is not baaligh or maybe is by now :S

But I meant I have no marriable cousins..

Medievalist
22-02-07, 07:42 PM
No- your Ustadji is. Yes disease is spread by lack of hand washing but the passing of genes i.e. the appearance of recessive gene phenotypes has absoluely nothing to do with unwashed hands. What a load of illiterate trash.

glad to see this jew is no longer soiling our forum. My dear jew friend - my Asaatizah are mashaALLAH ALLAH ke bandey.

And I've got A levels in science subjects yeh, am doing a science based degree. The OVERSIMPLYFYED stuff abt dominant and recessive alleles at GCSE is just that - oversimplification. The truth is more deeper and more complex than that - so I'd advise u not to talk out of yr mouth because its quite shameful the rubbish u chat, particularly as u are ignorant of the true facts regarding this issue. yr example is like one who urinates on the beach and declares the puddle that has formed another ocean.

beat it. :torture:

Eemaan
22-02-07, 07:46 PM
my extrended family are all whack @)

although id fit right in, no one eligible that meets my exclusive criteria :D

sabena
22-02-07, 07:55 PM
no because they r ll way youger than me and i am like their big sister so no

perfectpearl
22-02-07, 08:14 PM
The family is too close togather that way. NO. Plus its like marrying someone from your blood. I condsider liek a sister or brother. one person had a point. If divorce is nessary, you would want that person at out of your life forever. If its a cusion thats not possible. I understand in Islam is okay, but for me its the craziest (mentaly) i would do :D no ofense to those who already did. Its just my opnion :D

Kubs
22-02-07, 08:18 PM
Never!

Al-Irhaab
22-02-07, 09:55 PM
the prophet (Saw) married his first cousin and he (saw) married two more of his cousins who were not first cousins... :rolleyes:

so yes if my cousin was mashallah what i was looking for in marriage then i would marry her

Eemaan
22-02-07, 09:56 PM
ey up ihraab but she prolly wont wanna marry you :(

ghanamuslima
22-02-07, 09:56 PM
if there were no men left on this planet then maybe:D

Al-Irhaab
22-02-07, 09:58 PM
ey up ihraab but she prolly wont wanna marry you :(

that would be her choice to make but the point still stands :rolleyes:

ibn suleman
22-02-07, 09:58 PM
never say never...u dont what plans Allah has for you :up:

Maureen
22-02-07, 10:00 PM
would u :hidban:
I would marry my cousin if he had lots and lots of money and could keep me in a life of splendour!

Medievalist
22-02-07, 10:04 PM
Thing is if we look at the SAHAABAH Karaam alayhim ridhwaan - by and large they were related in someway - close or distant.

People know about Nabi :saw: marrying His Noble First-Cousin Ummul Mu'mineen Zaynab bint Jahsh radhiyallahu anha.

They know about Sayyidina Ali karamALLAHU wajhu being the first-cousin of Nabi :saw: and being married to Sayyidatuna Fatimah radhiyallahu anha.

Medievalist
22-02-07, 10:05 PM
But people aren't aware for example that Sayyidina Uthman radhiyallahu anh's Mother was the Daughter of the Paternal Aunt of Nabi :saw: (pupho's daughter) of Nabi :saw: - making Sayyidina Uthman and His Two Lights - Sayyidatuna Ruqayyah and Sayyidatuna Umm Kulthum - second-cousins.

Other relationships and marital links that come to mind:

Two of the Daughters of Nabi :saw: prior to Nubuwwat were to be married to two of the sons of Abu Lahab - ie they were to marry the first cousins of their Father :saw:

Or that when Sayyidina Ali was asked for his daughter by Sayyidina Umar radhiyallahu anh - his reply was that he was keeping his two daughters for Sayyidina Ja'far's (his brother) two sons.

etc etc etc

Unique Muslimah
23-02-07, 11:56 AM
Why not,I mean if they've got all the qualities of a good potential spouse,in reality,they are no different to any other person since they're ghair mahram anyways..even though you may have had a childhood together,gives you more to reminisce about..haha..

Refugee
23-02-07, 12:19 PM
never say never...u dont what plans Allah has for you :up:

:up:

darian
23-02-07, 12:30 PM
is it true that it's illegal in the USA?

It is illegal to marry a first cousin in all 50 states. In SOME states it is legal to marry a second or third cousin.
Here, marriage to a first cousin is considered incestuous. The problems related to inbreeding are also a consideration.

Kal-El
23-02-07, 12:50 PM
Marrying cousins or family relatives is an ancient tradition, and since the time of Islam, has evolved to become cultural traditions e.g. entire families made up of inbreeding with each other.

Personally I wouldn't ever consider it, but at the same time I don't look at married cousins any differently than conventional married couples.

But I'll be honest with you and say I can't understand why some families insist on breeding with each other instead of extending the family literally.

imran1976
23-02-07, 01:21 PM
Just because its ok to marry cousins doesn't automatically mean that it must be impossible for it to cause health problems if generation after generation people keep marrying into their cousins.

why don't we get health problems :scratch:

imran1976
23-02-07, 01:27 PM
there is no such thing as "engagement" in islam ,this is a non-muslim concept and does not exist in our religion.


but there's nothing wrong init.......

Ebony
23-02-07, 01:35 PM
The "engagement" period, for most people anyway, is seen as something that allows the man/woman to natter to each other whenever they like, alone usually, or they can see each other blah blah

You might as well date if you're going to do that :rubeyes: :nono:

"Engagements" are meant to be an indicator of ones "betrothed" status, in that there is someone you are going to be "given away to in the near future" and to make people aware of that.

Certainly doesn't give the couple leeway to freely mix with one another, since they are still ghayr to each other :rolleyes:

imran1976
23-02-07, 01:52 PM
The "engagement" period, for most people anyway, is seen as something that allows the man/woman to natter to each other whenever they like, alone usually, or they can see each other blah blah

You might as well date if you're going to do that :rubeyes: :nono:

"Engagements" are meant to be an indicator of ones "betrothed" status, in that there is someone you are going to be "given away to in the near future" and to make people aware of that.

Certainly doesn't give the couple leeway to freely mix with one another, since they are still ghayr to each other :rolleyes:

it all depends on ones family environment. the things u mentioned doesn't hold true for all families...........

Medievalist
23-02-07, 02:33 PM
it all depends on ones family environment. the things u mentioned doesn't hold true for all families...........

true. my rishta was done and I never saw her or spoke to her ever before nikah. first time I ever saw her was after the nikah so its different with different peeps

ur_yusra
23-02-07, 02:38 PM
true. my rishta was done and I never saw her or spoke to her ever before nikah. first time I ever saw her was after the nikah so its different with different peeps

You married her without seeing her?

Medievalist
23-02-07, 02:41 PM
You married her without seeing her?

I saw her foto - and thats abt it.

ur_yusra
23-02-07, 02:44 PM
I saw her foto - and thats abt it.

aah ok.. thats quite brave!

I know quite a few guys do that.. and some females too..

Medievalist
23-02-07, 02:46 PM
aah ok.. thats quite brave!

I know quite a few guys do that.. and some females too..

I knw Im brave - u dont need to tell me :rolleyes:

:D:D

funnay thing is when we went back to the village - one of the village women asked her that did u and molvyji have a love marriage :eek:

that cracked me up. :rotfl:

IffiePatel
23-02-07, 02:47 PM
would u :hidban:
COURSE MATE, BRING IT ON!

imran1976
23-02-07, 02:52 PM
aah ok.. thats quite brave!

I know quite a few guys do that.. and some females too..

seems an alien concept to u :p

it's quite normal here' just see photos :D

Ebony
23-02-07, 02:53 PM
Well, in my neck of the woods to agree to marry someone just from looking at their picture is very rare.

So yah, its an alien concept for some of us :rolleyes:

imran1976
23-02-07, 02:53 PM
I knw Im brave - u dont need to tell me :rolleyes:

:D:D

funnay thing is when we went back to the village - one of the village women asked her that did u and molvyji have a love marriage :eek:

that cracked me up. :rotfl:

molviji :p

ur_yusra
23-02-07, 02:54 PM
seems an alien concept to u :p

it's quite normal here' just see photos :D

Not really.. but hmmm yeh its uncommon in this region like Ebony said..

But marriage is a gamble either way.. however much you know or do not know the person.

Masumah
23-02-07, 02:56 PM
this thread still going.

imran1976
23-02-07, 02:56 PM
Well, in my neck of the woods to agree to marry someone just from looking at their picture is very rare.

So yah, its an alien concept for some of us :rolleyes:

probably for the majority of wilaiti's :rolleyes:

Medievalist
23-02-07, 02:56 PM
But marriage is a gamble either way.. however much you know or do not know the person.

thats true. Its the luck of the draw. if u got som1 who u got understanding with then gud gud and if yr characters are divergent then yr kinda stuck and have to work at it innit

ur_yusra
23-02-07, 02:57 PM
thats true. Its the luck of the draw. if u got som1 who u got understanding with then gud gud and if yr characters are divergent then yr kinda stuck and have to work at it innit

But how can you ever know anyone for sure?

Until you marry them - live with them for a few years :S

Medievalist
23-02-07, 03:01 PM
But how can you ever know anyone for sure?

Until you marry them - live with them for a few years :S

exactly - u only ever find out abt the person after yr married cos thats the way permitted in the holy shari'ah innit

imran1976
23-02-07, 03:05 PM
But how can you ever know anyone for sure?

Until you marry them - live with them for a few years :S

ya exactly one has to wait........

Cristiana
23-02-07, 06:55 PM
No.

Besides, in Italy is illegal to marry your first cousins... I don't know about UK...

sumayyah!
23-02-07, 07:28 PM
a cousin in islam is not ur mahram.i guess it depends on ur relationship with ur cousin.if u guys grew up lik brother and sister then no but if u grew up up half way across the world from each other then it wouldn't be so bad.

sisterKhadija
23-02-07, 08:31 PM
As-Salaamu Alkaium,

4:23 Forbidden to you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your aunts paternal and maternal, and a brother's daughters, and a sister's daughters; and your milk-mothers, and your milk-sisters; and the mothers of your wives; and your step-daughters - who are your foster children - born of your wives with whom you have consummated your marriage; but if you have not consummated your marriage, you will incur no sin [by marrying their daughters]; and [forbidden to you are] the spouses of the sons who have sprung from your loins; and [you are forbidden] to have two sisters [as your wives] at one and the same time - but what is past is past: for, behold, God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.

Doesn't this say you can not marry cousins?

Medievalist
24-02-07, 11:35 AM
As-Salaamu Alkaium,

4:23 Forbidden to you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your aunts paternal and maternal, and a brother's daughters, and a sister's daughters; and your milk-mothers, and your milk-sisters; and the mothers of your wives; and your step-daughters - who are your foster children - born of your wives with whom you have consummated your marriage; but if you have not consummated your marriage, you will incur no sin [by marrying their daughters]; and [forbidden to you are] the spouses of the sons who have sprung from your loins; and [you are forbidden] to have two sisters [as your wives] at one and the same time - but what is past is past: for, behold, God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.

Doesn't this say you can not marry cousins?

:scratch:

mothers = cousin? No
daughters = cousin? no
sisters = cousin? no
aunts = cousin? no
brothers daughters = cousin? no
sisters daughters = cousin? no
milk mothers = cousin? no
milk sisters = cousin? no
mothers of wives = cousin? no
stepdaughters = cousin? no
daughters in law = cousin? no

which of the above are yr cousins?

GuCcI
24-02-07, 12:57 PM
No.

Besides, in Italy is illegal to marry your first cousins... I don't know about UK...


salaam

really?!?!

my first cousin lives in italy and she went bak home and married one of our other first cousins and shes going to sponsor him there. so does that count, cuz they didnt get married IN italy, they got married back home..........

GuCcI
24-02-07, 01:01 PM
:scratch:

mothers = cousin? No
daughters = cousin? no
sisters = cousin? no
aunts = cousin? no
brothers daughters = cousin? no
sisters daughters = cousin? no
milk mothers = cousin? no
milk sisters = cousin? no
mothers of wives = cousin? no
stepdaughters = cousin? no
daughters in law = cousin? no

which of the above are yr cousins?



salaam

isnt that a list of women a man canNOT marry. 'cousin' isnt listed therefore u CAN marry her. is that wat u were asking? :rubeyes:

Abu Mus'ab
24-02-07, 01:30 PM
salaam

isnt that a list of women a man canNOT marry. 'cousin' isnt listed therefore u CAN marry her. is that wat u were asking? :rubeyes:
He wasn't expecting an answer, it was a rhetorical question.

Sisterkhadijah posted the ayah of all the people you can't marry and then asked "doesn't the ayah say you can't marry cousins?"

So Medievalist put all of the women you can't marry in a list and asked "which one is your cousin?" rhetorically.

None of those are cousins, cousins are permissable to marry.

Refugee
24-02-07, 01:36 PM
my extrended family are all whack @)

although id fit right in, no one eligible that meets my exclusive criteria :D

the only criteria you have is if someone can do ironing :rolleyes:

GuCcI
24-02-07, 02:08 PM
He wasn't expecting an answer, it was a rhetorical question.

Sisterkhadijah posted the ayah of all the people you can't marry and then asked "doesn't the ayah say you can't marry cousins?"

So Medievalist put all of the women you can't marry in a list and asked "which one is your cousin?" rhetorically.

None of those are cousins, cousins are permissable to marry.


salaam

oh :o way to make me feeel dumb :( *tears*

Cristiana
24-02-07, 11:37 PM
But isn't it better to just marry outside the family? for a matter of gene pool?...

Irfan GBH
24-02-07, 11:46 PM
But isn't it better to just marry outside the family? for a matter of gene pool?...

Yeh, thats what i'm thinking too. Too many people marry cousin's in some parts of the world and this practice appears to have led to the rise of swarms of inbreds.

Kal-El
24-02-07, 11:52 PM
I asked earlier with that in mind; then why is inbreeding allowed in Islam?a

Irfan GBH
25-02-07, 12:30 AM
I asked earlier with that in mind; then why is inbreeding allowed in Islam?a

Cousin marrying only leads to inbreeding if it goes on for several generations, as the blood pool gets smaller increasing the likelyhood of "bad" genes combining. When cousin marrying is only practiced in moderation there is less chance of problems.

Te'oma
25-02-07, 01:14 AM
It would have to be a distant cousin for me. I know all my first and second cousins and I'm sorry, most in that gene pool should not pass on their genes

Supernova Nebula
25-02-07, 01:56 AM
It would have to be a distant cousin for me. I know all my first and second cousins and I'm sorry, most in that gene pool should not pass on their genes

looool

Saadet
25-02-07, 02:06 AM
I asked earlier with that in mind; then why is inbreeding allowed in Islam?a

It is allowed, but not commanded. Some in the Muslim world seem to think that marrying cousins is always the way to go, even though there are so many Muslims to choose from, and Islam encourages exogamy.

Maybe it's just a matter of convenience..

Te'oma
25-02-07, 06:15 AM
looool

Hey, you don't know my cousins...I am sort of a black sheep in the family. I have a job, an education and the parentage of my kids is not in question :p

LOLO11
25-02-07, 09:53 AM
assalamu alikum wa rahmatu allah wa baraktuh

ammm


well no , I think there is hadith for arrasol salla allahu alyh wa salam ,

ma manah that it is better if you choose your partner not from your

family , besides allot of genetic diseases can be discovered from relative marrage .

Mustafa_A
25-02-07, 10:18 AM
The problem usually comes in when in certain families there is a tradition of only cousins getting married, and in most of these cases there is compulsion,i know of a few familes who are like this, and its wrong.

On the otherhand if there are two cousins who have a fondness for each other then i thinks its okay for them to get married.

End of the day its the couple who have to spend their life togather and the final choice should be theirs, and not based on culture or family tradition.

Medievalist
25-02-07, 12:19 PM
End of the day its the couple who have to spend their life togather and the final choice should be theirs, and not based on culture or family tradition.

:up:

Fairy
25-02-07, 01:23 PM
would u :hidban:
I wouldnt, no. They are like brothers to me!

Mr_Jailer
25-02-07, 01:43 PM
too young.

perfectpearl
25-02-07, 07:00 PM
It is illegal to marry a first cousin in all 50 states. In SOME states it is legal to marry a second or third cousin.
Here, marriage to a first cousin is considered incestuous. The problems related to inbreeding are also a consideration.

ITS NOT ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who tricked you and told u that?

stephenoskie
25-02-07, 07:15 PM
i cant none of cousins are married
but im not sure

RAJMIN
28-02-07, 11:58 AM
if they were practising islam n striving to be gud muslims for the love Allah n wud treat u well then y not?

Te'oma
02-03-07, 08:30 AM
It is illegal to marry a first cousin in all 50 states. In SOME states it is legal to marry a second or third cousin.
Here, marriage to a first cousin is considered incestuous. The problems related to inbreeding are also a consideration.


Got news for you. It's legal in all 50 states and in Canada too. Doesn't mean that it's recomended but it is legal

Barracuda
02-03-07, 08:23 PM
heck no I would not.
Related question:

When Islamic Shariah made it Halal than who are you make is Haram for yourself? It is Allah's decree and attribute as no one can make things Haram that are made Halah or vice versa?

Abu Mus'ab
03-03-07, 08:38 AM
Related question:

When Islamic Shariah made it Halal than who are you make is Haram for yourself? It is Allah's decree and attribute as no one can make things Haram that are made Halah or vice versa?
He's not making it haraam for himself, he's saying he doesn't want to marry his cousins, it could be for a number of reasons,

1: they're not muslim

2: they're too young/old

3: they don't match his criteria

4: etc etc

Barracuda
03-03-07, 10:09 AM
He's not making it haraam for himself, he's saying he doesn't want to marry his cousins, it could be for a number of reasons,

1: they're not muslim

2: they're too young/old

3: they don't match his criteria

4: etc etc
Salam bro

Thank for the heads-up. I stand corrected and hope that brother will forgive my oversight, insha Allah.