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A_Muminah
10-12-06, 02:27 AM
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Innal AlHumdu-Lillaah Was Salaatu Wa Salaamu 'Ala Rasoulillah

Masha-Allaah 'Alayk. May Allaah provide what is best for us, Aameen.

THE DREAM WEDDING

Considering the fact that we spend exorbitant sums of money, and even
incur huge debts, in the hosting of our weddings, it is vital to note
that most of the practices found in a typical Muslim wedding are in no
way Islamic......

It is perfectly natural for a young girl to dream about her wedding day,
what it will be like, what she will wear, how she will bid farewell to
her family, etc. Nikaah is a vital part of our deen, and most girls do
one day, want to settle down with that person whom Allah Ta'ala has
destined them to be with.

But ask any girl the actually content of her dreams, or what she
pictures her wedding day to be like, and one can expect to hear, "I'd
like to arrive at the hall in a yellow BMW convertible", or "I'd like to
enter the hall with my husband,with Kenny G music playing in the
background", or "I'd want to have my wedding photographs taken alongside
a pond".

Most girls might even be able to tell you the size and the style of the
wedding ring they are anticipating, how much they are willing to spend
on a white wedding gown, etc.The sad part is most of these dreams are
realised.
What the young Muslim bride-to-be wants, her parents give her, and even
if she doesn't want it, her parents still force it upon her.

So what we end up with is a young girl, about to embark on a most
beautiful form of ibaadat, sitting on a stage, looking no different from
a Christian bride, for a whole audience of males and females to stare at
-- at a time when it is vital that she be sitting on the musalla, making
dua, asking Allah Ta'ala to make her marriage a successful one. A young
couple posing for photographs - hugging and kissing for hundreds of
people to see. Hours of music, followed by a five- minute qir'aat and
dua, and then
back to the music...And of course a camera-man moving about frantically
capturing everything: the cutting of a four-tier wedding cake, the
grand entrance of the bride to a confetti-welcome, the presentation of a
bouquet, the groom's sister putting on jewellery for the bride....the
list is endless.

Latest trends include the serving of grape juice in wine glasses [what
one wonders, is the intention behind this?], the bride and groom and a
[unisex] bridal party sitting and eating on the stage in full view of
everyone, a special night set aside before the wedding for indian music
accompanied by dancing.Where - do we ever ask ourselves - do all these
practices emerge from?

Certainly not the Qur'aan, certainly not the sunnah.If we really let
ourselves think about the answer to this question we will have to admit
that everything about the circus weddings we host - from the often crude
and tasteless bridal showers hosted for the bride by her friends to the
practice commonly known as "janha" wherein the groom's family has to
present the bride with an expensive item of jewellery before the
wedding, to the mehndi ceremony, to the engagement parties, to the
wedding ring, to the white gown, the walking down the aisle, the
brides-maids, the bouquet, the cake, the videos and the photographs,
basically everything besides the performing of the nikaah itself has
absolutely no validity in our beautiful and simple deen.

In fact the majority of these practices originate from other religions,
and we have taken them, and practised them and advertised them, to such
an enormous extent that they are now wrongfully been recognised as being
part of the Muslim way life. Our weddings have become virtually
indistinguishable from the weddings of the kuffaar.

And they shouldn't be. As Muslims, everything about us from our
character to our dressing to our practices, should serve as an example
to people. We should be trying to preserve our deen - with all its
simplicity and
beauty. Nothing about the weddings we host makes any sense.

Islamically it is not at all incumbent upon the bride's family to host
any form of feeding before or after the nikaah. [Yes, it is sunnat for
the groom's family to have a Walimah, after the marriage has been
consummated, but this too, should be a simple affair] Yet, thousands of
rands go into the hosting of a bridal reception, with all its food,
frills and fancies.
At the end of the day, we are left with a series of complaints about the
food, unnecessary family quarrels of the "Why was I not invited?"
variety, a wasted ball gown that will probably never be worn again and
huge debts.

Instead of throwing all this money away on a few moments of senseless
sin, the bride's family could have utilised it in a way which would have
been of some real benefit to her and to her prospective husband, e.g. by
making some contribution to the setting up of a home for the couple.

We should always remind ourselves of the marriage of Hadhrat Fatima
[RA], the daughter of our beloved Nabi [SAW]

When Ali [RA] expressed his intention to propose for Fatima [RA],
Rasulullah [SAW] was pleased and asked him if he possessed
any riches. When Ali [RA] replied that apart from a horse and a shield he
possessed nothing, Rasulullah said: "A soldier must of course, have his
horse. Go and sell your shield."

Ali [RA] sold his shield for 400 dirhams, after which Rasulullah
[SAW] called Bilal [RA] and asked him to bring some itar and a
few other things and sent Hadhrat Anas [RA] to call Abu Baker,
Uthman, Zubair [RA] and some other men of the Ansar.

When they had arrived, Rasulullah [SAW] recited the Nikah Khutbah.
Giving Fathima [RA] in nikaah to Ali [RA], he said,
"Bear you all witness, I have given Fathima to Ali for 400 misqals of
silver and Ali has accepted." He then raised his head and made dua.

After the nikaah, dates were distributed and when night came,
Fathima [RA] was sent without any hue or cry in the company of
Umme Aiman [RA]. Rasulullah [SAW] visited them, made dua for them, and
asked for a basin of water in which he blew after reciting the three
Quls. He then sprinkled this water on both, Ali [RA] and Fatima [RA].

Rasulullah [SAW] gave his daughter a silver bracelet, 2 Yemeni sheets, 4
mattresses, a blanket, a pillow, a cup, a hand grinding mill, a
bedstead, a small water skin and an earthen pitcher, and advised them
that the indoor work should be done by Fatima [RA] and the
outdoor work by Ali [RA].1

This is the "dream wedding" which we should all be striving towards.
It would be to the benefit of many if we start instilling this in the
minds of our children, especially our daughters.

We should encourage them towards totally following the Sunnah, and not
just doing so selectively i.e. by following whatever is easy to follow,
and then emulating other people in other aspects of life. By becoming
the slaves of our nafs and Shaitaan, i.e. by hosting unnecessary and
elaborate functions, we are only hampering the Imaan and futures of our
children: how can we expect them to embark on the ibaadat which nikaah
is, when this ibaadat begins with a series of sins?

It should be the pleasure of Allah Ta'ala which we hope to attain, not
the pleasure of mis-guided family members and friends. Rather endure
their displeasure, than face the displeasure of Allah Ta'ala.

--
My love is such that Rivers cannot quench

`asiya
10-12-06, 02:34 AM
..And not only is it happening on the wedding day but some muslims are even wearing "engagment" and "wedding" rings too for the rest of their lives audu billah, as the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said we will follow them down the lizard holes..

amatullah_amina
11-12-06, 07:09 PM
aslamu alaikum warehmatullahi wbarakatu,,

ukhti asiya is ther anything wrong in wearing engagement or wedding rings for women??? lemme know inshaAllah or maybe u meant it in another context....

JazakAllahu khairun
walaikum alsam warehmatullahi wbarakatu

Tax-Man
11-12-06, 07:43 PM
If Inshallah my future wife is expecting any of that, she has another thing comming.

`asiya
11-12-06, 07:59 PM
aslamu alaikum warehmatullahi wbarakatu,,

ukhti asiya is ther anything wrong in wearing engagement or wedding rings for women??? lemme know inshaAllah or maybe u meant it in another context....

JazakAllahu khairun
walaikum alsam warehmatullahi wbarakatu

wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,sis wa iyakki amin this is not from the custom of the muslims its originally pagan symbolisim , that the christians adopted as a custom in their churches in about 800 c.e. There is no daleel in Islam to say that a man and wife should exchange rings or have an "engagement" or "wedding" ring, we just took on this custom from living amongst the christians, and now u see muslim women walking round wearing them and being very attached to these symbols. audu billah.

Lost_Princess
15-12-06, 04:52 AM
yea but living in a westernise community the only way people know ur married or engaged is by those rings so in a way it makes it easier for people to know if they are taken or not :) so i think wediing or engagement rings are essential especially in this day and age :D

Khadhijah
15-12-06, 05:39 AM
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Masha'Allah beautiful article sister! Jazaki'Allahu khairan

imeg.org
15-12-06, 09:18 AM
In the Name of Allâh, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
As Salaam-u-Alaikum

masha'Allah.. we should learn and follow it.. i think the money that you will be saving.. you can go with your supose to hajj or umrah or pay poor.. who dont have anything to eat..

khair.. good post * thumbs up *

jazak'Allah khair...

Wa Salaam-Alaikum

Bentali86
15-12-06, 06:13 PM
I'm not going to lie.

Throughout my entire life, I'v always pictured my dream Wedding. A beautiful ball gown dress with a 20 foot cathedral length train. A diamond studded tiara. A huge wedding hall. Oddles and oddles of jewelry. Being escorted in a horse drawn carriage.

When I was 10, as we were preparing for my sisters marriage (my father refused to allow more than 5,000$ to be spent.. $1000 was for the dress, $2,500 for the hall & food, and $1,500 for jewelry) My father was talking about a car he wanted to buy my sister.

I loved my sister to death, I loved my father to death. I was suprised at the fact that my dad actually said what he said -- he didn't yell or anything -- but my sister regretted everything after what he said.

He had pictures with him that day, after deciding upon a car for my sister, he took those pictures out. Now, our family was well off, so making an extravagent wedding worth thousands was possible (my dads friends were suprised about the small budget of the wedding).

The pictures were of African & Indian & Eastern European kids. Kids who were starving. Kids whose bones were attached to their skin. I threw up.

He said that those were our brothers and sisters -- i was suprised, I never knew I had black brothers and sisters, I never knew I had indian brothers and sisters , I never knew I had chinese brothers and sisters, I never knew I had pitch-white-close to alibino brothers and sisters.

He said that $10 feeds them for a month. You can only imagine how that made us all feel. $10 brought us 2 happy meals at McD's, which we never use to be able to finish. $10 is what we spent on a trip to the corner grocery to buy stupid things we'd never eat.

He wrote out a check, in front of us all, to a charity organization, a christian one, and an Islamic one. $15,000 each. He said that was his wedding gift to my sister and her husband (who by the way was with us when my dad was talking).

My dad said something that haunts me until today. Anyone who spends more than $10,000 on a wedding from our family, he will no longer consider as a child of his.

A year later my brother had to get married. His future wife and her family were expecting extravagence. My brother said he won't spend more than what my father spent on my sister, but he will buy an apartment for them to live in, and a car for her. Her father bluntly refused and said, you either throw the wedding at this hall (which was $25,000) and you buy her this dress (which was over $3,000) and you pay a dowry ($15,000) or you can forget it. My brother came home and talked to my father -- and my father said "I said what I said, if you don't want to go by my wishes, so be it. If you wish to please me and Allah, you will use your mind and not throw away money like that. I don't mind the dowry, but the Hall is pure stupidity"

My brother spoke to the girls father, and since they didn't reach an agreement, they broke it off. He wasn't about to get :torture:

He ended up marrying a christian girl, who converted within 2 weeks of marriage. Their wedding didn't cost over $1000, they had it at our house, and she wanted to wear a traditional middle eastern wedding dress (cost us 200$ for shipment & purchasing) (it was palestinian/syrian). The food was $500, and the decorations were the remaining.

My dad donated on their behalf as well, more than he did on my sisters day ($40,000 cumulative my brother and his wife; 20,000 to St.Judes Childrens Research Hosp (her father died of cancer) & 20,000 towards the Bosnian Crisis). The brought an apartment overlooking the shore, and he got her a really nice new car (his car wasn't even new). And Alhamdulilah, Allah has blessed them with 6 beautiful kids, 2 sets of triplets, well and healthy.

I hate extravagent weddings to the point where I just don't attend them unless they're immidiate family.



Weddings are utterly pointless. They waste time, money, and accumulate the endless sins on your back.

I plan on having a small house wedding, where I wear a pretty Green dress, and take a few pictures at a studiom, and I hope to not spend more than $500 on my wedding day.

Luckily, our house is big enough to have a small house wedding at :P

As for wedding rings -- You have to have them in this day and age. It's the only way to get people off of you. It's the only symbol of marriage. Married girls who don't wear them are considered promiscuous. I'm going to just have a pretty ring on my finger, to show I'm married, but it's going to be a simple gold ring with an emerald. Won't cost more than $200.

But I still would expect a car and a house :inlove: Okay fine, at least a car ;)

Although I was born & raised in the west, I would never totally fall into the western way. I refuse to assimilate.

Bentali86
15-12-06, 06:16 PM
Throughout my entire life, I'v always pictured my dream Wedding. A beautiful ball gown dress with a 20 foot cathedral length train. A diamond studded tiara. A huge wedding hall. Oddles and oddles of jewelry. Being escorted in a horse drawn carriage.

Until I was 10. When I was 10, as we were preparing for my sisters marriage (my father refused to allow more than 5,000$ to be spent.. $1000 was for the dress, $2,500 for the hall & food, and $1,500 for jewelry) My father was talking about a car he wanted to buy my sister. (Her fiance loved her to death -- but was in Graduate school and wasn't well off.. She got a car before he did lol)

I loved my sister to death, I loved my father to death. I was suprised at the fact that my dad actually said what he said -- he didn't yell or anything -- but my sister regretted everything after what he said.

He had pictures with him that day, after deciding upon a car for my sister, he took those pictures out. Now, our family was well off, so making an extravagent wedding worth thousands was possible (my dads friends were suprised about the small budget of the wedding).

The pictures were of African & Indian & Eastern European kids. Kids who were starving. Kids whose bones were attached to their skin. I threw up.

He said that those were our brothers and sisters -- i was suprised, I never knew I had black brothers and sisters, I never knew I had indian brothers and sisters , I never knew I had chinese brothers and sisters, I never knew I had pitch-white-close to alibino brothers and sisters.

He said that $10 feeds them for a month. You can only imagine how that made us all feel. $10 brought us 2 happy meals at McD's, which we never use to be able to finish. $10 is what we spent on a trip to the corner grocery to buy stupid things we'd never eat.

He wrote out a check, in front of us all, to a charity organization, a christian one, and an Islamic one. $15,000 each. He said that was his wedding gift to my sister and her husband (who by the way was with us when my dad was talking).

My dad said something that haunts me until today. Anyone who spends more than $10,000 on a wedding from our family, he will no longer consider as a child of his.

A year later my brother had to get married. His future wife and her family were expecting extravagence. My brother said he won't spend more than what my father spent on my sister, but he will buy an apartment for them to live in, and a car for her. Her father bluntly refused and said, you either throw the wedding at this hall (which was $25,000) and you buy her this dress (which was over $3,000) and you pay a dowry ($15,000) or you can forget it. My brother came home and talked to my father -- and my father said "I said what I said, if you don't want to go by my wishes, so be it. If you wish to please me and Allah, you will use your mind and not throw away money like that. I don't mind the dowry, but the Hall is pure stupidity"

My brother spoke to the girls father, and since they didn't reach an agreement, they broke it off.

He ended up marrying a christian girl, who converted within 2 weeks of marriage. Their wedding didn't cost over $1000, they had it at our house, and she wanted to wear a traditional middle eastern wedding dress (cost us 200$ for shipment & purchasing) (it was palestinian/syrian). The food was $500, and the decorations were the remaining.

My dad donated on their behalf as well, more than he did on my sisters day ($40,000 cumulative my brother and his wife; 20,000 to St.Judes Childrens Research Hosp (her father died of cancer) & 20,000 towards the Bosnian Crisis). The brought an apartment overlooking the shore, and he got her a really nice new car (his car wasn't even new). And Alhamdulilah, Allah has blessed them with 6 beautiful kids, 2 sets of triplets, well and healthy.

I hate extravagent weddings to the point where I just don't attend them unless they're immidiate family.



Weddings are utterly pointless. They waste time, money, and accumulate the endless sins on your back.

I plan on having a small house wedding, where I wear a pretty Green dress, and take a few pictures at a studiom, and I hope to not spend more than $500 on my wedding day.

Luckily, our house is big enough to have a small house wedding at :P

As for wedding rings -- You have to have them in this day and age. It's the only way to get people off of you. It's the only symbol of marriage. Married girls who don't wear them are considered promiscuous. I'm going to just have a pretty ring on my finger, to show I'm married, but it's going to be a simple gold ring with an emerald. Won't cost more than $200.

But I still would expect a car and a house :inlove: Okay fine, at least a car ;)

Although I was born & raised in the west, I would never totally fall into the western way. I refuse to assimilate. The rings I consider as universal

A_Muminah
16-12-06, 03:22 AM
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

SubHana-Allaah, I am so glad you were able to share that with us and it has touched me more than you know. I am so grateful that there are people such as your father who do set rules down for events such as a wedding where the money just flows and you dont keep count at all. The marriage is based on how it begins, if it begins with haraam...what benefit will it bring about? Yet, if it starts with sadaqah for the sake of Allaah and to care for our Ummah, Allaah will make it a blissful marriage.

I cant relate to your story but I have seen what happens when there is no limit to what can be done at a wedding.

A member of my family recently got engaged and before the nikah was even done, there were diamonds being bought. The wedding cost over $60,000 excluding the dowry and so. The one night that cost a couple so much, did not even have a meaning because they did not even get to cherish it. Besides all of that, the couple started having many problems and divorced within 6 months.

I am not saying that Allaah will automaticall make your marriage work if you donate or if you decide to have a simple wedding but as Muslims...are we looking for blessings from Allaah or to please the dunyah? Do we want to do things in this life that will benefit our aakhirah or just 'live life to the fullest'?

May Allaah tremendously reward your father.
May Allaah make him of those under His shade.
May Allaah grant your father Jannatul Firdous.

At the end of the day Allaah knows best and we ask Him to guide us

Aameen, Ya Rabb.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

`asiya
16-12-06, 03:41 AM
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,
May Allaah tremendously reward your father.
May Allaah make him of those under His shade.
May Allaah grant your father Jannatul Firdous.

At the end of the day Allaah knows best and we ask Him to guide us

Aameen, Ya Rabb.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

amin wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

meer
16-12-06, 03:49 AM
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

SubHana-Allaah, I am so glad you were able to share that with us and it has touched me more than you know. I am so grateful that there are people such as your father who do set rules down for events such as a wedding where the money just flows and you dont keep count at all. The marriage is based on how it begins, if it begins with haraam...what benefit will it bring about? Yet, if it starts with sadaqah for the sake of Allaah and to care for our Ummah, Allaah will make it a blissful marriage.

I cant relate to your story but I have seen what happens when there is no limit to what can be done at a wedding.

A member of my family recently got engaged and before the nikah was even done, there were diamonds being bought. The wedding cost over $60,000 excluding the dowry and so. The one night that cost a couple so much, did not even have a meaning because they did not even get to cherish it. Besides all of that, the couple started having many problems and divorced within 6 months.

I am not saying that Allaah will automaticall make your marriage work if you donate or if you decide to have a simple wedding but as Muslims...are we looking for blessings from Allaah or to please the dunyah? Do we want to do things in this life that will benefit our aakhirah or just 'live life to the fullest'?

May Allaah tremendously reward your father.
May Allaah make him of those under His shade.
May Allaah grant your father Jannatul Firdous.

At the end of the day Allaah knows best and we ask Him to guide us

Aameen, Ya Rabb.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

Yaa some people special in our muslim society. they always prefer to do marriage in very grand way. I dn't known why. if you ask them why tehy prefer to do marriage such a grand way. they always use to say we do marriage once. so we should make special as much we can :rubeyes:
but really I dn't beleave in this. (enshallah)I will do my marriage very simple way. no extra ordinary expences & very simple but special.(only with some important people enshallah.