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singh123@mail
08-12-06, 03:19 PM
First of all Salaam to all the brothers and sisters on the forum... i will first apologise for refering to Sikhi (Sikhism)... thats because i posted this on a Sikh forum first... and ive basically been copying and pasting on to other forums... Even though i know alot of Muslims on here will not be aware about Sikhism or its leaders, i hope you can use the story referring to Sikhi just generally and just think of it as a moral story....


LOL... and soz about the sizes and everything... its just coz i copied and pasted and im still need help in translating so im still trying to post in other forums because no ones came up with any translation so far.



Guru Nanak and Mardana enjoying the food at the humble house of Bhai Lalo

Im planning on (God willing) putting a fair trade post up in my local Gurdwara, and putting leaflets there...

However i really need someone to translate this leaflet into Gurmukhi (punjabi) shahmukhi (urdu language) and in arabic....

Could any of the brothers or sisters do this...

please do this amazing seva if you can... i cant remembers the name of selfless serviec in arabic... but it is part of Islam i think...




Just for the penjis and paaji's who dont know what FAIR TRADE is...

basically normal companies such as Cadbury's[/color] buy raw materials such as cocoa or bananas or whatever from poor countries... such as Ghana... and these companies pay these people too less so they can get even more profit for themselves... however they basically rob them... becoz they know they basically can, coz there is no laws to protect them and these people have no choice... but to accept, they pay them to the extent that these people will still be STARVING... and still have to go without food in some of the days... they still can't send their children in school... and they still in big debt... and they cant ask for more money... WHY? because then these companies will just basically go to other farmers and rip them off instead! And basically if no one buys there produce then they wont be able to even feed their family the little that they do.

Basically the farmers get robbed for how much there product is really worth...

By the way these big companies will still make MILLIONS or BILLIONS pounds of profit even if they pay these farmers just a little bit more... and top of that the cost of their lifestyle is lower to pay these people how much they really earned!




Which is you can make a difference... please...
BUY fairtrade products... that gurantees that the farmers get the money for how much they really earned... if it is defnetly a fair trade product it will have this sign...[/color]

http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/images/mark_colour_horizontal.jpg




HOW DO WE EXPECT THESE PEOPLE IN AFRICA ETC TO COME OUT OF POVERTY IF WE KEEP ON BUYING FROM COMPANIES WHICH KEEP ON ROBBING THEM FROM THE MONEY THEY EARNED?



I personally think its all our duty as a human and as believers in God to buy fair trade when we can... but i'll let you all decide for yourself... by not doing anything about this problem about these farmers being robbed of what they earned... isnt that saying that its OK whats happening?




Is there any thing relating to FAIR TRADE andSikhi?





After all... look at the Saakhi about Guru Nanak and Bhai Lalo and Malik Bhago's when pure milk came out of Bhai Lalo's honestly earned food... and blood out of Malik Bhago's food which which was earned out of the cost of the poor's blood (i.e. pain and sweat... and starvation)....

...this is exactly what i think of when we drink coffee or other food (even rice) etc which we buy from big companies who are robbing these poor people...

...i know the difference is..... we arnt robbing them DIRECTLY... these companies are... but we are supporting them by keep on buying these type of products which keeps the demand... and the companies dont bother changing this problem... so we are helping them to rob INDIRECTLY...

PLEASE support the fair trade industry... and try to BUY or tell your parents to buy fair trade products instead...

(I know that aint easy... but please try to explain to them!!)







I know its not possible to buy all the things in fair trade.... but even if you buy one item which is fair trade such as coffee, hot chocolate, tea or even chocolate bars instead that will help them farmers get out of poverty and get thier rights (God willing)... (The fair trade one's will have the symbol shown above)...





Please CLICK HERE for leaflet that needs translating... (http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/downloads/pdf/general_leaflet.pdf)


If and when any of the penji's and paaji's have translated it then please post the tranlation on here... thanks.

*by the way i have only bought fair trade coffee, hot chocolate, and a chocolate bar myself but im trying to look for different fair trade products as well that my family will like..so they will keep on buying them... i know its not much but every little thing makes a difference.


So please BUY Fair trade products

SO DOES EVERYONE AGREE WITH ME THAT THIS IS A RELIGIOUS AND HUMAN DUTY???


Salaam.

Arsalan
08-12-06, 03:30 PM
Hi welcome to hte forum

Unfortunately there can be no understanding between the Islamic religion and Sikh tradition, with regards to the false notion of "collective unity". No matter what your bhai Mardana and Bhai Lolly might say. :rolleyes:


Your product is only valuable on the basis of its merit, rather then any sort of "religious underpinning you are trying to propose or fabricate.

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singh123@mail
08-12-06, 04:37 PM
salaam,

brother im not trying to propose, fabricate anything... or ''collective unity'' ... brother i thought it was a Islamic duty to help other people (no matter what their faith is)... and if im not mistaken the Holy Quran says somewhere that when your helping others tell them your doing it for the sake of Allah... and fair trade is giving people their earned rights... which im asking the brothers and sisters on this forum to help me on to give them...

the only reason why the part referring to Sikhism is on here because i copied and pasted the whole topic from the original forum... which is the reason why on the top of this topic ive apologised and said just think of it as a moral story since when i written this originally i written it so people will be able to relate to fair trade... and the reference to sikhi is not fabricating sikhi it is just a story containing a person who was part of Sikhi.

I am only on this site to ask for help in the translation of the leaflet to arabic or urdu so i will be able to post it in my local Masjid (God willing) to let the older generation to understand about fairtrade so they will buy these products instead (God willing)...
and brother if you havent got anything to say about that.. rather than talking about ''there is no understanding between Islam and Sikhsim'' then i request please dont post anything at all on this thread... because i have only started this thread on one mission to get a translation... and not on any other subject... besides God knows my intentions...

Salaam.

-T-
14-12-06, 07:56 PM
Fair Trade rocks!

Tahirrrrrrrrr :up:

cecieby
18-12-06, 07:04 AM
Hi welcome to hte forum

Unfortunately there can be no understanding between the Islamic religion and Sikh tradition, with regards to the false notion of "collective unity". No matter what your bhai Mardana and Bhai Lolly might say. :rolleyes:


Your product is only valuable on the basis of its merit, rather then any sort of "religious underpinning you are trying to propose or fabricate.

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search the web for- palestine olive oil---the have a very pretty and brave site they tell about the ancient trees and where they grow (west bank) you will see that the oil is newly being fair traded--one can order by mail

singh123@mail
20-12-06, 08:38 PM
search the web for- palestine olive oil---the have a very pretty and brave site they tell about the ancient trees and where they grow (west bank) you will see that the oil is newly being fair traded--one can order by mail

Salaam

Thanks for sharing brother/sister.

Salaam.

Supinder Singh
21-12-06, 01:02 AM
Salaam

Thanks for sharing brother/sister.

Salaam.

eh chakdeh patteh

khidaaaaaaaaa

singh123@mail
21-12-06, 12:36 PM
eh chakdeh patteh

khidaaaaaaaaa

Salaam.

Teek thanks.

Salaam

singh123@mail
21-12-06, 12:45 PM
Salaam.

I found some of these Quranic quotes by a Muslim brother on anther forum about fair trade:

Holy Quran 17:35: "Give a full measure when you measure out and weigh with a fair balance"

Holy Quran- 2:270 And whatever ye spend in charity or devotion, be sure Allah knows it all. But the wrong-doers have no helpers.

83:1-3 "Woe to the cheaters. Who when they take the measure (of their dues) from the people, take it fully, and when they measure out to others or weigh out for them they give less than is due."


Salaam.

seven
21-12-06, 01:32 PM
personally, i think fair trade foods generally taste better too... i believe because it comes from happier people... and this kinda has some effect on the foods.

as for the palestinian olive oil: http://www.zaytoun.org/

the BEST olive oil i have ever tasted without a doubt! :banbear:

Omar
21-12-06, 02:42 PM
i prefer the gm stuff it looks so much more shiny

Phoenix CG
21-12-06, 06:18 PM
rofl @ shiny, red apples :p

singh123@mail
24-12-06, 03:47 PM
Satsriakaal, Salaam, Namaste.

I have created this on email, if anyone wants it to FWD it (please do lol... i desperately need to find someone to translate them (because theres also an attachment on aswell... that needs translating aswell))... as soon as possible... and the only way i can see that someone's going to end up translating it is if it gets FWD to as much people as possible... because its only a few people with the abilities to translate and i might strike gold through email....

By the way... lol ive decided im going to post it to the Mandir, Mosque aswell as the Gurdwara so i need it to be translated into Gurmukhi (punjabi), Shahmukhi (urdu), Devangri (Hindi) and Arabic...

I will forward it to you if you want it just PM your email to me or send your email address to singh1-2-3@hotmail.co.uk please.

Supinder Singh
25-12-06, 11:36 PM
Salaam.

Teek thanks.

Salaam

wasalaam

you drive the mersedees mr singh bhai

singh123@mail
26-12-06, 02:42 PM
Salaam

Lol... nope paaji i cant drive... i havent started to learn yet

Salaam.