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MG
04-12-06, 06:17 PM
He is in love with a girl but cannot marry her

Question:
I am currently in a sitaution that may be common among the muslim community. I have met a wonderful Muslim XXX girl six months ago, I am XXX. We talked for many months and have become very close. Actually we are in love with each other. Everything about our relationship has been wonderful.I feel Allah has brought us together. We have talked about marriage and both agree we want to spend our lives together.Now here is where the problem begins.Her father would not agree to marry her to anyone but a XXX that he has chosen in an arranged marriage.Even if she doesnt love him. I have spoken to her mother and she really likes me.She tried to talk to her husband but he wouldnt listen.Now it looks like her dad will arrange a marriage for her soon. What can we DO!!!I dont want to lose her I love her soooo much.Is there anything we can do?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Praise be to Allaah besides Whom there is nobody to praise when calamity strikes.
My dear brother, you should realize that no calamity befalls a person except because of sin, and it cannot be lifted except by repentance.
Despite all the hardship you are facing and the intense pain you are feeling, you still have to think about the root of the problem and understand the shar’i ruling on it and learn a lesson from what has happened. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“… whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself…”
[al-Nisa’ 4:79]
it comes from yourself because you gave yourself free rein in starting this forbidden relationship and getting to know this girl in a manner that is not approved of in sharee’ah, and because you indulged in absolute freedom in an environment that is far removed from the laws of Allaah.
Don’t you see that our Lord is truly Wise and All-Knowing when He forbids men to deliberately look at non-mahram women or to touch them or be alone with them or take them as friends? Allaah knows that this leads to haraam things whether it is immoral actions of varying decrees or falling in love – which is the serious and fatal disease from which you are suffering because of your sin. You have become one of its victims, suffering its pain and choking on it.
You have been very frank in describing this disease from its onset, and how you fell into this devilish trap, when you said in your question: “I have met a wonderful Muslim girl six months ago... We talked for many months and have become very close. Actually we are in love with each other.”
But you mention that you feel that Allaah has led you to one another. If you mean that this has happened by the will and decree of Allaah, then this is correct. Even Iblees exists by the will and decree of Allaah. But if you meant that Allaah decreed this because He likes it and approves of it, (this is wrong, because) Allaah does not approve of anything that is haraam. Just because something happens does not mean that Allaah likes it or approves of it. Allaah decrees good and evil for reasons which only He knows.
If you say now that what has happened has happened, and cannot be changed, so what can we do about this father who is standing in the way of these two lovers who want to get married?
I would say that there is nothing wrong with making efforts – in halaal ways, of course – to persuade this father, such as bringing mediators from within the family, or the imaam of the Islamic Centre where the father goes, and so on, and praying earnestly to Allaah to make this girl part of your lot in life if this is good for you and for her. If what you want happens, then praise be to Allaah, Who is the Giver of bounty and blessings.
But if all attempts fail, mediation does not work and the wind blows in the way that the sailor does not like (i.e., things do not go the way you hoped), then you should know that from the point of view of sharee’ah you can never marry this girl without the consent of her guardian – which is her father in the case – because the Prophet http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who gets married without the consent of her guardian, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, no. 1102, and by Abu Dawood, Ahmad and Ibn Maajah. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 2709). The marriage contract will not be valid even if it was approved by jaahili courts and kaafir judges.
It is impossible for running away with this girl to be a valid solution, either in this world or in the next.
We must also ask some other questions raised by your situation, such as: what is your commitment to Islam – do you pray regularly, for example? Does she adhere to the hijaab prescribed by sharee’ah? What is the attitude of your own family to the idea of your marrying this girl?
Finally, you must realize that you will have to forget about her if she marries someone else. In that case, you should not waste your life regretting losing her. You never know where good may come from. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“… it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allaah knows but you do not know.”
[al-Baqarah 2:216]
What has happened is a mistake of which you are going to bear the bitter consequences, but you have to be sincere towards Allaah and strive to repent and turn back to Him. If this girl is not destined to be your lot in life, then we ask Allaah to compensate you with someone better than her. “Verily, he who fears Allaah with obedience to Him, and is patient, then surely, Allaah makes not the reward of the muhsinoon (good-doers) to be lost.” [Yoosuf 12:90 – interpretation of the meaning].


Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

bint
04-12-06, 06:18 PM
thats sad..:(

MG
04-12-06, 06:18 PM
please be aware bros and sisters about getting yourself into situations like the above, there are so many bros and sisters in the above situations that i have come across and its very sad that we let the footsteps of shaytan take us so far.....

MG
04-12-06, 06:20 PM
thats sad..:(

the bit i have highlighted in blue i think is an excellent piece of advice mashallah

bint
04-12-06, 06:23 PM
the bit i have highlighted in blue i think is an excellent piece of advice mashallah


i guess if we have our morals right n straight we have no problem.

with me its been there done that and alhamdulillah i passed that test.

Allahs tests us in many ways..and its a brilliannt feeling to succeed and say to ureself..thank allah if i cud resist that temptation i can do any. subhanALlah.

but its tricky n people should be a little selfish n think for themselves.:up:

MG
04-12-06, 06:27 PM
i guess if we have our morals right n straight we have no problem.

with me its been there done that and alhamdulillah i passed that test.

Allahs tests us in many ways..and its a brilliannt feeling to succeed and say to ureself..thank allah if i cud resist that temptation i can do any. subhanALlah.

but its tricky n people should be a little selfish n think for themselves.:up:

i agree sis and wen u do get thru successfully tests like this, u feel like an even stronger muslim (and u knwo shaitaan is kicking himself hehehehe) now look atall the pain that brother above is having to go thru, the whole family actually and it all coulda been avoided

bint
04-12-06, 06:28 PM
i agree sis and wen u do get thru successfully tests like this, u feel like an even stronger muslim (and u knwo shaitaan is kicking himself hehehehe) now look atall the pain that brother above is having to go thru, the whole family actually and it all coulda been avoided


ditto:up:

Ebony
04-12-06, 06:58 PM
I read "in love with girl, cannot marry her" and fell asleep :zzz:

MG
04-12-06, 07:11 PM
I read "in love with girl, cannot marry her" and fell asleep :zzz:



will it help if i change it to "in love with a girl but have no intention of marrying her"

:D

Ibn-e-Muslim
04-12-06, 07:19 PM
:jkk: for that sis :up:
may Allah reward u for that Ameen

MG
04-12-06, 07:20 PM
:jkk: for that sis :up:
may Allah reward u for that Ameen

ameen akhi and no problem

Al-Saeed Abdi
04-12-06, 07:44 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,

Have you got a link to this website? I am interested to see what else they have to say.

Jazaak Allahu khair

Ma'aSalaama

MG
04-12-06, 07:45 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,

Have you got a link to this website? I am interested to see what else they have to say.

Jazaak Allahu khair

Ma'aSalaama

wa alaikuma slaam


here u go akhi,
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=5511&ln=eng&txt=marriage

Al-Saeed Abdi
04-12-06, 08:03 PM
wa alaikuma slaam


here u go akhi,
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=5511&ln=eng&txt=marriage
[smile] Jazaak Allahu khair Ukhti, it's appreciated.

Ma'aSalaama

MG
04-12-06, 08:05 PM
[smile] Jazaak Allahu khair Ukhti, it's appreciated.

Ma'aSalaama

no problem akhi

.: Rashid :.
04-12-06, 08:25 PM
good advice...

...if only the people in that situation actually listened :rolleyes:

OK thats harsh I imagine its really quite difficult being in that situation...

but still :p

-Rashid

Eemaan
04-12-06, 08:26 PM
good advice...

...if only the people in that situation actually listened :rolleyes:

OK thats harsh I imagine its really quite difficult being in that situation...

but still :p

-Rashid

thast cos your only 15 :torture: get outta this forum! :D

.: Rashid :.
04-12-06, 08:30 PM
thast cos your only 15 :torture: get outta this forum! :D

hmm people my age can/have been in that position... :rolleyes:

WAIT not implying i have!! :smack: as in, im aware of people who are/have...

:torture:

-Rashid

Eemaan
04-12-06, 08:32 PM
hmm people my age can/have been in that position... :rolleyes:

WAIT not implying i have!! :smack: as in, im aware of people who are/have...

:torture:

-Rashid

:smack: back in digital highway bro, off you go *shakes head in despair*

.: Rashid :.
04-12-06, 08:52 PM
:smack: back in digital highway bro, off you go *shakes head in despair*

:outta:

-Rashid

Arsalan
04-12-06, 08:57 PM
I think of love as a decieving "friend."

MG
04-12-06, 09:00 PM
I think of love as a decieving "friend."


only if u keep thinking thru your rose tinted glasses ,when they blatantly need to b removed :D

imama
04-12-06, 09:24 PM
AsslamOAlaikum

but sn't it that forcing a girl 2 get married to someone hu she doesn't want to is not valid either??? :confused: nd ders also dis hadith taht used 2 come up alot on ary ... marry your daughters to whom they want to..

MG
04-12-06, 09:27 PM
AsslamOAlaikum

but sn't it that forcing a girl 2 get married to someone hu she doesn't want to is not valid either??? :confused: nd ders also dis hadith taht used 2 come up alot on ary ... marry your daughters to whom they want to..

wa alikum aslaam akhi,

yes there is more than issue going on that situation, forced marriage is not valid.

imama
04-12-06, 09:30 PM
wa alikum aslaam akhi,

yes there is more than issue going on that situation, forced marriage is not valid.

ye.. wouldn't it b forced mariage in the above situation aswell???

MG
04-12-06, 09:32 PM
ye.. wouldn't it b forced mariage in the above situation aswell???

ooops your a sis, sorry.

yeh it seems forced for the girl, i.e. the brother says her father is going ahead and arranging the marriage anyway but he doesnt say much about how the sister feels about all this...

imama
04-12-06, 09:56 PM
ooops your a sis, sorry.

yeh it seems forced for the girl, i.e. the brother says her father is going ahead and arranging the marriage anyway but he doesnt say much about how the sister feels about all this...

lol its okay..
yep.....

neels
04-12-06, 09:59 PM
Very convenient for the sheikh to ignore the fact that the father is committing sin himself by forcing the girl to marry against her wishes. All very well for the sheikh to go along with the status quo of parents and elders in his society and very convenient to neglect to mention that the father would be sinful himself if he forces her marriage.

Anyway it's no big deal. A guy who's in love with me can't marry me either (yes I love him too :inlove: ) but he's just accepted it and got on with his life. You wont see him (or me) moping around these sites looking for loopholes;)

Mr_Jailer
04-12-06, 10:17 PM
Anyway it's no big deal. A guy who's in love with me can't marry me either (yes I love him too :inlove: ) but he's just accepted it and got on with his life. You wont see him (or me) moping around these sites looking for loopholes;)

Do you still remain in contact?

bint
04-12-06, 10:18 PM
neels mashaAllah thats a brave thing to do.

me same in ure boat. but i dont talk to him..

Mr_Jailer
04-12-06, 10:20 PM
neels mashaAllah thats a brave thing to do.

me same in ure boat. but i dont talk to him..

Does he know this?

bint
04-12-06, 10:21 PM
Does he know this?
know what?

Mr_Jailer
04-12-06, 10:22 PM
know what?

Know that you're interested in him, but can't do anythin' 'bout it, apart from move on as in Neels situation?

bint
04-12-06, 10:24 PM
Know that you're interested in him, but can't do anythin' 'bout it, apart from move on as in Neels situation?


but im not..was but not.
sorry i shud have made it clearer..

neels
04-12-06, 10:25 PM
Do you still remain in contact?

I've seen him occassionally on his way to mosque and say Salaam and how's your family and bye but that's about as far as 'contact' goes.

Mr_Jailer
04-12-06, 10:26 PM
Say if u got to know 2-3 ppl well enough in order to lub them in ur youth (late teens / early 20's), but can not marry for whatever reasons... won't their good points play in ur mind for when u do actually marry? Won't it be a tool compare between ur man n past 'lubbers' (guys / gals u loved enough to be ur spouse)?

Al-Irhaab
04-12-06, 10:26 PM
Very convenient for the sheikh to ignore the fact that the father is committing sin himself by forcing the girl to marry against her wishes. All very well for the sheikh to go along with the status quo of parents and elders in his society and very convenient to neglect to mention that the father would be sinful himself if he forces her marriage.

Anyway it's no big deal. A guy who's in love with me can't marry me either (yes I love him too :inlove: ) but he's just accepted it and got on with his life. You wont see him (or me) moping around these sites looking for loopholes;)


there is nothing there that suggests the father if FORCING her to marry someone else.. he is arranging her marriage... perhaps shes like a lot of sisters and will not go against her dads wishes even if she likes someone else.. u shld think more before u accuse like that....

bint
04-12-06, 10:29 PM
Say if u got to know 2-3 ppl well enough in order to lub them, but can not marry for whatever reasons... won't their good points play in ur mind u do actually marry? Won't it be a tool compare between ur man n past 'lubbers' (guys / gals u loved enough to be ur spouse)?


i dunno if thats a question posed to me or neels..but ill answer it and give my tuppence..

i think good of evryone..but alhamdulillah i made no mistakes whatsoever when i stopped it. and i did it in a good way..well i think anyways..:rubeyes:

but no, the previous guys thoughts wudnt enter my head..besides ive forgetten em already..moving on.:D

outlandish
05-12-06, 04:36 PM
there is nothing there that suggests the father if FORCING her to marry someone else.. he is arranging her marriage... perhaps shes like a lot of sisters and will not go against her dads wishes even if she likes someone else.. u shld think more before u accuse like that....
if she was so concerned with dad's wishes the lady shouldnt have been involved with a guy in the first place.
I think it does suggest the father is forcing since he isnt considoring the guy she likes for no apparant reason and arranging it so quickly,obviously she likes someone else and in this way is going to ruin another guys life maybe whom she doesnt like.