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StrawberryMilk
30-11-06, 06:23 PM
I'm an American who has been proposed to by a Pakistani, we met through the internet and have never met in person.

He says that in order for me to marry him in Pakistan that I need to present a certificate of some type saying that I am a certified Muslim.

Not that I would have a hard time with a local cleric making a certificate up for me to present to him, but I have never heard of this type of document.

I'm sure some of you will be able to help me with clarifying if this is true or not.

Thanks much!

scribble
30-11-06, 06:28 PM
:eek: What certificate?

Hafsah
30-11-06, 06:51 PM
i think you can get certificates..like for example if you are a revert..and you want to go for ummrah/hajj...saudi officials ask for a certificate to show you are now muslim

its odd they should ask for one when you wanna get married...but maybe thats just what they do there

Eemaan
30-11-06, 08:18 PM
errr you never met him?


:eek3:

.: Anna :.
30-11-06, 08:31 PM
I dont know about needing it for marriage but if you need one for umrah or whatever you can jst get it from whatever islamic organisation and it should be okay

Nusayba bint Ka'b
30-11-06, 08:41 PM
errr you never met him?


:eek3:

its 2006 get with the program Eeeman:p

Eemaan
30-11-06, 08:59 PM
its 2006 get with the program Eeeman:p

sorry sis :rubeyes: im stuck in 1990 :(

Ibn-e-Muslim
01-12-06, 04:18 AM
I'm an American who has been proposed to by a Pakistani, we met through the internet and have never met in person.

He says that in order for me to marry him in Pakistan that I need to present a certificate of some type saying that I am a certified Muslim.

Not that I would have a hard time with a local cleric making a certificate up for me to present to him, but I have never heard of this type of document.

I'm sure some of you will be able to help me with clarifying if this is true or not.

Thanks much!

im a pakistani too but iv no clue y he is asking for a cirtificate (if u r a revert may b he needs it for his on satesfection) Allah o Alam

or

if u dont hold Pakistani nationality than he might need it to get u a N.I.C

u can always ask him the details

zaki
01-12-06, 05:08 AM
i think you can get certificates..like for example if you are a revert..and you want to go for ummrah/hajj...saudi officials ask for a certificate to show you are now muslim

its odd they should ask for one when you wanna get married...but maybe thats just what they do there

yea, thats all i was told about getting a certificate...that reminds me, i haven't got mine yet :o

Who is he to judge who is a Muslim or not?

Ibn-e-Muslim
01-12-06, 05:20 AM
yea, thats all i was told about getting a certificate...that reminds me, i haven't got mine yet :o

Who is he to judge who is a Muslim or not?

he has a right to know about his future wife if she is muslim or not, a certificate can help him/his family remove any doubts :scratch:

zaki
01-12-06, 05:26 AM
but thats like saying cause I'm white I'm not a Muslim, if he cant trust a Muslim cause we all have to tell the truth, then who is he to judge?

EDIT: but do come to think about it, i do understand what you mean though :)

Ibn-e-Muslim
01-12-06, 05:35 AM
but thats like saying cause I'm white I'm not a Muslim, if he cant trust a Muslim cause we all have to tell the truth, then who is he to judge?

who knows what his intentions r
may b he belives in her but to b on safe side needs a certificate as proof of her wife is a Muslim or to clear confusion of his family, may b his job is needs a certificate
in Pakistan there r few sensitive jobs where u cant marry any1 from outside the country if u do u lose ur job or u need a certificate of sum sort etc

zaki
01-12-06, 05:39 AM
ah, i understand, thank you for clearing that up for me :)

muslim_sis
01-12-06, 08:33 AM
who knows what his intentions r
may b he belives in her but to b on safe side needs a certificate as proof of her wife is a Muslim or to clear confusion of his family, may b his job is needs a certificate
in Pakistan there r few sensitive jobs where u cant marry any1 from outside the country if u do u lose ur job or u need a certificate of sum sort etc
yeh but whats a certificate , it doesnt assure whats in the heart , only Allah knows , so a certificate for the family plays what part? hmm

Ibn-e-Muslim
01-12-06, 08:43 AM
:eek: y u ppl asking me? im not the guy demanding certificate :rubeyes:

i was just trying to explain what that brother might b going thru so he needs to have a certificate
:torture:

muslim_sis
01-12-06, 08:53 AM
:eek: y u ppl asking me? im not the guy demanding certificate :rubeyes:

i was just trying to explain what that brother might b going thru so he needs to have a certificate
:torture:
lol sorry sorry, just a question posed to whoever does understand it !

Hafsah
01-12-06, 09:04 AM
yeh but whats a certificate , it doesnt assure whats in the heart , only Allah knows , so a certificate for the family plays what part? hmm

very true

Salman Al-Farsi
01-12-06, 09:39 AM
I think a certificate of this nature would be needed for administration purposes of nikah document, :scratch:

puella
01-12-06, 10:16 AM
if the sister in question is a revert then she needs to provide proof to say that she has reverted..its like a divorcee sister getting married again, she needs to provide proof that she is divorced doesnt she, because at the end of the day the imam who is conducting the nikah needs to be assured that the two who he is conducting the nikah for are allowed, islamically, to get married to each other...as he also will be held accountable for his actions he needs exhaust all avenues to ensure that the marriage is hala inshaAllah. Being an imam is a difficult job, with huge amounts of responsibilities and consequences of those responsibilities

but the sister needs to clarify this situation with the brother as opposed to asking all us really...and then come back to us with what he says if he sounds a bit dodgy :D


but its a bit strange to be a certified muslim ...:D..kinda cool actually :D

Eemaan
01-12-06, 10:57 AM
but its a bit strange to be a certified muslim ...:D..kinda cool actually :D

:rubeyes: like have to do a test to check how holy moly you are? :eek:

imna fail :crying2:

Al Qadr
01-12-06, 11:12 AM
Is he after ur passport :S