Brothers! Dont Go Back 'ome to Get Shaadied!

[Eemaan]

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yah right,:D off with the lot of yah. some of the replies in the forum lately mekin me think im walking with cavemen :smack:

[Kal-El]

Uga Uga

[-Shamil-]

why do people call other countries home? :rolleyes:

that aint home

[ibn suleman]

:eek:

[Eemaan]

OK ok ibn suleman, not you.:hidban: sorry if i hurt your delicate feelings :D

[Abu Muslim]

Qaaaaf, Wal Quraaan ul Majeed *smiles*

[.: Anna :.]

bro its wal quran il majeed with a kasra, because of the waw ul qasm

[puella]

Salaams eemee!

*hugs*

errr..wht made u start this thread?

[Eemaan]

Salaams eemee!

*hugs*

errr..wht made u start this thread?

wasalam babe.

answer: cavemen@ummah.com :torture:

[puella]

wasalam babe.

answer: cavemen :torture:

hmmmm....

[Abu Muslim]

bro its wal quran il majeed with a kasra, because of the waw ul qasm

Jazak'Allah for the correction sis, I was just listening to it and thought I heard it as wal quran ul majeed. Tank you.

[Al-Irhaab]

i remember last year all the sisters were complaining that brothers were going back 'home' to get married :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Eemaan]

i remember last year all the sisters were complaining that brothers were going back 'home' to get married :rotfl: :rotfl:

:rolleyes: i wasnt ere last year. knocked some sense in to all of em down the sisters dection dint i :D

:spunch:

[Ibn Khattab]

im not going "back home" to get married inshallah thts for sure!

[ur_yusra]

:rolleyes: i wasnt ere last year. knocked some sense in to all of em down the sisters section dint i :D

:spunch:

Yeh with some of the brothers attitudes on this forum they are better off marrying from back home no doubt.. :)

[Eemaan]

Yeh with some of the brothers attitudes on this forum they are better off marrying from back home no doubt.. :)

was wondering when you were gonna show yer gob sis :D :hidban:

[`asiya]

Yeh with some of the brothers attitudes on this forum they are better off marrying from back home no doubt.. :)

shame for our sisters "back home" though may Allah ta ala protect them amin

[ur_yusra]

shame for our sisters "back home" though may Allah ta ala protect them amin

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Eemaan]

shame for our sisters "back home" though may Allah ta ala protect them amin

ey up, more reinforcements :D

[ibn suleman]

o

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[Al-Irhaab]

shame for our sisters "back home" though may Allah ta ala protect them amin

oh inshallah he will protect them.. im sure they will be more then happy... and im sure the brothers will be more then happy with them.... dont know what the sisters here will do.... apparantly marrying someone back home is like a death sentance for them.... hmm the other thing thats strange is theirs more practicing sisters then brothers.... so where do the sisters from here marry ... i guess polygny is always an option :D

[ur_yusra]

oh inshallah he will protect them.. im sure they will be more then happy... and im sure the brothers will be more then happy with them.... dont know what the sisters here will do.... apparantly marrying someone back home is like a death sentance for them.... hmm the other thing thats strange is theirs more practicing sisters then brothers.... so where do the sisters from here marry ... i guess polygny is always an option :D

The number of male reverts in this country are on the rise..

Don't worry about us.. :up:

[`asiya]

ey up, more reinforcements :D
:badguy::mujahida: :badguy: me and my boys jus rode in

[MG]

shame for our sisters "back home" though may Allah ta ala protect them amin


:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1: u go sista

[`asiya]

oh inshallah he will protect them.. im sure they will be more then happy... and im sure the brothers will be more then happy with them.... dont know what the sisters here will do.... apparantly marrying someone back home is like a death sentance for them.... hmm the other thing thats strange is theirs more practicing sisters then brothers.... so where do the sisters from here marry ... i guess polygny is always an option :D

absolutely i advise all brothers to marry 4 women :up: will be making sure my husband does the same insha Allah ta ala ( dont want him round my feet all day long) were just talking about the cavemen here anyway bro not a blanket ban on all bros :rolleyes:

[Eemaan]

:badguy::mujahida: :badguy: me and my boys jus rode in

:rotfl:

[MG]

oh inshallah he will protect them.. im sure they will be more then happy... and im sure the brothers will be more then happy with them.... dont know what the sisters here will do.... apparantly marrying someone back home is like a death sentance for them.... hmm the other thing thats strange is theirs more practicing sisters then brothers.... so where do the sisters from here marry ... i guess polygny is always an option :D

dont worry, some brothers use their intelligence and decide to stay behind :D

[Eemaan]

dont worry, some brothers use their intelligence and decide to stay behind :D

intelligence being the operative word sis :rubeyes:

[Ebony]

Go get married back home.

Give us some peace :rolleyes:

[Al-Irhaab]

absolutely i advise all brothers to marry 4 women :up: will be making sure my husband does the same insha Allah ta ala were just talking about the cavemen here anyway bro not a blanket ban on all bros :rolleyes:

caves have always been kind to the muslims mashallah... they grant solitude and time to reflect on the blessings of allah (SwT) and give shelther to the mujahideen.... wheras luxuries gives u nothing but ran mureed :D

[Ibn Khattab]

:badguy::mujahida: :badguy: me and my boys jus rode in

Ataghfirullah wot boys:torture: :torture:

[Al-Irhaab]

dont worry, some brothers use their intelligence and decide to stay behind :D

what stay back home dont decide to ever come back :D

[`asiya]

but u got your caveman, then u got your men who live in caves :rolleyes: and the latter are masha Allah in the hills cooking for themselves and fighting like men, to protect their women :up: those type we have no problem with

[`asiya]

Ataghfirullah wot boys:torture: :torture:

:afro: :afro: my two teenage sons :torture: my mahrams :rubeyes:

[MG]

what stay back home dont decide to ever come back :D

they run from there man, they run!

akhi i would love to hear from brothers who are and have been married rom bakc home and give their points of view becos any bros theres i know that are married from back home, regret it, seriously.....dunno what it is:rubeyes:

But for the ones who cuss the UK sisters and THEN go back home to marry, i say....please go...save us :rolleyes:

[Al-Irhaab]

but u got your caveman, then u got your men who live in caves :rolleyes: and the latter are masha Allah in the hills cooking for themselves and fighting like men, to protect their women :up: those type we have no problem with

well seeing as adam (as) was the first an alive and then after him came the rest of mankind.... i fail to see where cavemen fit in unless uve started to believe in evolution.... so cavemen are men who live in caves.,.. so id rather be a caveman then a ran mureed :D

[Emelianenko]

:rolleyes:

[Al-Irhaab]

they run from there man, they run!

akhi i would love to hear from brothers who are and have been married rom bakc home and give their points of view becos any bros theres i know that are married from back home, regret it, seriously.....dunno what it is:rubeyes:

But for the ones who cuss the UK sisters and THEN go back home to marry, i say....please go...save us :rolleyes:

i know enough bros got married back 'home' mashallah not one of them been divorced or had problems like that yet :rolleyes:

but i dont diss the sisters here... but am saying if u want us all to marry back home then fair enough.... we was just wondering who gonna marry yall then :rubeyes:

[puella]

i think this thread is degenerating into something farcical...does it have a point?

boys who wanna go back home, go..if u dnt then stay and marry here

khalas

[Ibn Khattab]

:afro: :afro: my two teenage sons :torture: my mahrams :rubeyes:

oohhhhhhhhhhhh :embar: :embar: :embar: :embar:

wos about to say :outta:

[Ebony]

Go...run Forrest...run back home :outta:

[Eemaan]

i think this thread is degenerating into something farcical...does it have a point?

boys who wanna go back home, go..if u dnt then stay and marry here

khalas

:torture: do most threads on this forum have a point? :D

[`asiya]

:rotfl: nice one ebony


sorry puella ur right but if we didnt laugh about this we`d have to cry

[MG]

i know enough bros got married back 'home' mashallah not one of them been divorced or had problems like that yet :rolleyes:

but i dont diss the sisters here... but am saying if u want us all to marry back home then fair enough.... we was just wondering who gonna marry yall then :rubeyes:


jus the ones that diss the UK sistrs b4 packing up, i mean what is that all about? :rubeyes:

NO ONE CARES IF BROTHERS GO BACK HOME TO GET MARRIED, JUS DONT SLATE EVERYONE ELSE B4 GOING, COS ALL THATS GONNA HAPPEN IS YUR WORDS ARE GONNA COME BACK AND BITE U ON UR A** :D

well 90% bros i know regret it, whihc is where i get my stance from and i think its quite sad for both parties, some (ok alot) are even resorting to affairs :(

allahu alim

[ibn suleman]

i hope some of u arent serious with abt ur views...

[Ebony]

:rotfl: nice one ebony


sorry puella ur right but if we didnt laugh about this we`d have to cry

Forget crying....just say good riddance to these type of men :D

[Emelianenko]

i hope some of u arent serious with abt ur views...
Aye aye

some of the posts r worrying on these marriage threads man

[Eemaan]

i hope some of u arent serious with abt ur views...

ibn sul none of this applies to you. your still on my list lil bro :D

Aye aye

some of the posts r worrying on these marriage threads man

doesnt apply to you either lad!

[Al-Irhaab]

Aye aye

some of the posts r worrying on these marriage threads man

not as worrying as ur posts... and dont act like u dont know what im talking abt :torture:

[Al-Irhaab]

jus the ones that diss the UK sistrs b4 packing up, i mean what is that all about? :rubeyes:

NO ONE CARES IF BROTHERS GO BACK HOME TO GET MARRIED, JUS DONT SLATE EVERYONE ELSE B4 GOING, COS ALL THATS GONNA HAPPEN IS YUR WORDS ARE GONNA COME BACK AND BITE U ON UR A** :D

well 90% bros i know regret it, whihc is where i get my stance from and i think its quite sad for both parties, some (ok alot) are even resorting to affairs :(

allahu alim

strange dont know... of course i only talk about practicing bros not jahil ones... all the practicing ones i know are happy that have married back home .,.. as are most of the ones married here.... and none of them would resort to affairs... and they havent dissed the sisters here just preffered the ones back home for their reasons...

[Eemaan]

not as worrying as ur posts... and dont act like u dont know what im talking abt :torture:

:D i know :D

[puella]

:rotfl: nice one ebony


sorry puella ur right but if we didnt laugh about this we`d have to cry

im all for having a laugh huny, but i feel there is a twinge of seriousness involved in some ppls attitudes

[ibn suleman]

:D i know :D

:eek: i sincerely hope u don't

[Emelianenko]

not as worrying as ur posts... and dont act like u dont know what im talking abt :torture:
And not half was worrying as the revelations that came out bout u lately aar kid...and donnae act like u dont know what im on bout either :rotfl:

[MG]

strange dont know... of course i only talk about practicing bros not jahil ones... all the practicing ones i know are happy that have married back home .,.. as are most of the ones married here.... and none of them would resort to affairs... and they havent dissed the sisters here just preffered the ones back home for their reasons...

i think we hav had "practising" bros dissing sisters here and thats wat th e sisters dnt like, not the fact that we cry into our pillows "cos the brothers have gone back home!" :rolleyes:

akhi its not about jahil or practising, practising can fall into sin as well unfortuntely.

so wen is youre wedding date?

[MG]

And not half was worrying as the revelations that came out bout u lately aar kid...and donnae act like u dont know what im on bout either :rotfl:

hmmm....this sounds like brothers section business, take it ova there please :outta:

[ur_yusra]

I know a practising bro whose attitude was such, he had to marry from back home and thats exactly what he did.. :up:

[Emelianenko]

hmmm....this sounds like brothers section business, take it ova there please :outta:
:outta:

lol i tinkz akhi irhaab is blushing :p

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[ibn suleman]

not as worrying as ur posts... and dont act like u dont know what im talking abt :torture:

And not half was worrying as the revelations that came out bout u lately aar kid...and donnae act like u dont know what im on bout either :rotfl:

:torture: :torture: :torture:

not the place or the time...

[Al-Irhaab]

i think we hav had "practising" bros dissing sisters here and thats wat th e sisters dnt like, not the fact that we cry into our pillows "cos the brothers have gone back home!" :rolleyes:

akhi its not about jahil or practising, practising can fall into sin as well unfortuntely.

so wen is youre wedding date?

i see faaaar more speaking ill of practicing brothers by the sister then i see the other way round...

sis it is about jahil and practicing... i mean if ur saying that the bros prayed five times day kept their fasts did the basics and then fell into sin i can understand... but if they not praying or fasting then u cant use their example as to what happens when bros marry back home... because all joking aside none of the practicing bros i know who have married back home have even been close to divorce...

[MG]

:outta:

lol i tinkz akhi irhaab is blushing :p

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Akhi man thats not nice, wateva u found out about him should stay in bro section, your gona get it from him now!

:p

[Al-Irhaab]

And not half was worrying as the revelations that came out bout u lately aar kid...and donnae act like u dont know what im on bout either :rotfl:

i got absolutely no idea what ur talking abt :scratch: so stop pulling the double bluff or ill make u wash ur mouth out with a green tooth brush and paste :torture:

[ur_yusra]

The statistics work out quite well if we look at it closely..

Some sisters marry backhome out of choice.. some brothers NEED to marry backhome because of their attitude.. that leaves the remaining sisters and decent minded brothers in the UK.. to erm.. Marry eachother..

Oh as a sidenote for sisters: Reverts are the best people to marry.

[ibn suleman]

i got absolutely no idea what ur talking abt :scratch: so stop pulling the double bluff or ill make u wash ur mouth out with a green tooth brush and paste :torture:

thats just wrong :torture:

[Al-Irhaab]

The statistics work out quite well if we look at it closely..

Some sisters marry backhome out of choice.. some brothers NEED to marry backhome because of their attitude.. that leaves the remaining sisters and decent minded brothers in the UK.. to erm.. Marry eachother..

Oh as a sidenote for sisters: Reverts are the best people to marry.

so the brothers who get married back home are not decent married?

and sisters talk about brothers not speaking well of sisters :rolleyes:

[MMS]

but i dont diss the sisters here... but am saying if u want us all to marry back home then fair enough.... we was just wondering who gonna marry yall then :rubeyes:

ur passports the only thing u got going for u so emaans advice doesnt apply to you :up:

[Al-Irhaab]

thats just wrong :torture:

but funny :D

[Al-Irhaab]

ur passports the only thing u got going for u so emaans advice doesnt apply to you :up:

aye and i havent even got that to hand rightnow :(

[ibn suleman]

but funny :D

yup :D

but it doesnt make it right :torture: :p

[MG]

so the brothers who get married back home are not decent married?

and sisters talk about brothers not speaking well of sisters :rolleyes:

no wat sis ur yusra is saying (correct em if im wrong) some bros have a certain attitude that only a sister from back home will take , not one from here....

[MG]

aye and i havent even got that to hand rightnow :(

u better tell the wife-to-be b4 hand if i ws u......

[Al-Irhaab]

no wat sis ur yusra is saying (correct em if im wrong) some bros have a certain attitude that only a sister from back home will take , not one from here....


Some sisters marry backhome out of choice.. some brothers NEED to marry backhome because of their attitude.. that leaves the remaining sisters and decent minded brothers in the UK.. to erm.. Marry eachother


like i said pot kettl black :zzz:

[Emelianenko]

i got absolutely no idea what ur talking abt :scratch: so stop pulling the double bluff or ill make u wash ur mouth out with a green tooth brush and paste :torture:
In denial are ya tiger ali singh eh :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

oh so u even remembered the toofbrushes colour aye :rotfl:

[Al-Irhaab]

u better tell the wife-to-be b4 hand if i ws u......

why :scratch: is she marrying me for my passport... :torture:

if she is ill get someone to tell her i been stripped of my nationality :D

[Emelianenko]

no wat sis ur yusra is saying (correct em if im wrong) some bros have a certain attitude that only a sister from back home will take , not one from here....
By the way some sisters go on in ere, seems like they aint ready to take anything from anyone ;)

[ibn suleman]

In denial are ya tiger ali singh eh :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

oh so u even remembered the toofbrushes colour aye :rotfl:

enuf of the toothbrushes :torture: :p

[ur_yusra]

so the brothers who get married back home are not decent married?

and sisters talk about brothers not speaking well of sisters :rolleyes:

I meant their attitude in alignment with the UK sisters sorry :)

[Al-Irhaab]

In denial are ya tiger ali singh eh :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

oh so u even remembered the toofbrushes colour aye :rotfl:

forget denial brederin i is just pure confused... cus i really got no idea wot u goin on abt :confused:

aye i did and i see u were happy with ur choice of colour :rotfl::rotfl:

[Al-Irhaab]

By the way some sisters go on in ere, seems like they aint ready to take anything from anyone ;)

'dont talk to me like that ahermmm show me respect BROTHER and then ill show you some back'

remind u of anyone :D

[Emelianenko]

forget denial brederin i is just pure confused... cus i really got no idea wot u goin on abt :confused:

aye i did and i see u were happy with ur choice of colour :rotfl::rotfl:
aye goes well with ma lunghi :p :rotfl:

[MG]

By the way some sisters go on in ere, seems like they aint ready to take anything from anyone ;)


lol, i know ur not talking about me or ur gona get it :spunch:


:D

[Abu Muslim]

*cue 50 page topic*

masha'Allah some people never get bored of talking about the same old stuff.

See you same time next week, on the next episode of gender wars.

[Emelianenko]

lol, i know ur not talking about me or ur gona get it :spunch:


:D
touchy touchy :p

[Al-Irhaab]

*cue 50 page topic*

masha'Allah some people never get bored of talking about the same old stuff.

See you same time next week, on the next episode of gender wars.


how do u cue a 50 page topic... i mean i can cue a snooker ball... can cue quite well but how does one cue a 50 page topic :scratch:

[Abu Muslim]

how do u cue a 50 page topic... i mean i can cue a snooker ball... can cue quite well but how does one cue a 50 page topic :scratch:

Wait in the que...and I'll get back to you.

[MG]

touchy touchy :p

*gets ready to book her ticket back home for marraige*

:(

[Emelianenko]

*gets ready to book her ticket back home for marraige*

:(
LOL!! :p

[ibn suleman]

so like people who get married back home...do they book a one way ticket?

[ur_yusra]

so like people who get married back home...do they book a one way ticket?

Erm they get two return tickets back to UK :p

[ibn suleman]

Erm they get two return tickets back to UK :p

so its a passport thing :p

[MG]

so like people who get married back home...do they book a one way ticket?


no they cant book a one way ticket back home otherwise the prospective wife/hubbie will dump them

[Nawar]

:rotfl:

[ibn suleman]

no they cant book a one way ticket back home otherwise the prospective wife/hubbie will dump them

lol

so why doest the one going back home wanna live back home???

[MG]

lol

so why doest the one going back home wanna live back home???

again cos if they say they wanna live back home with their wife/hubbie, they will get dumped by them again

[Al-Irhaab]

lol

so why doest the one going back home wanna live back home???

cus they want to bring the civilised sister back here to civilise the rest


















:ban:

[Emelianenko]

again cos if they say they wanna live back home with their wife/hubbie, they will get dumped by them again
Not really ;)

[MG]

cus they want to bring the civilised sister back here to civilise the rest


















:ban:

:rolleyes:

no cos otherwise ur dumped :D

[MG]

Not really ;)

yes really! :p

[ibn suleman]

again cos if they say they wanna live back home with their wife/hubbie, they will get dumped by them again

wait so ur saying the ones back home are no better...

hmmm maybe theres a more fundamnetal problem here....

cus they want to bring the civilised sister back here to civilise the rest

:ban:

hmmm....wudnt work...

[Ebony]

All the desperado's, brothers & sisters, should go marry back home.

And spare us from all this racket :2hammers:

[ur_yusra]

wait so ur saying the ones back home are no better...

hmmm maybe theres a more fundamnetal problem here....



hmmm....wudnt work...

My freinds from back home (pakistan) shes taught me how to be chalaak :D

[MG]

wait so ur saying the ones back home are no better...

hmmm maybe theres a more fundamnetal problem here....



hmmm....wudnt work...

there are some, jus like there are some in uk/US , eberyone has bad apples but from what i see and hear, people from back home jus want the passport and citizenship and its really rife, that if u get married from back home, its most likely cos of your passport...

[Emelianenko]

there are some, jus like there are some in uk/US , eberyone has bad apples but from what i see and hear, people from back home jus want the passport and citizenship and its really rife, that if u get married from back home, its most likely cos of your passport...
True but its not the case with everyone, uve got a lot of ppl der now living a better life than most of us here in UK.

[Al-Irhaab]

wait so ur saying the ones back home are no better...

hmmm maybe theres a more fundamnetal problem here....



hmmm....wudnt work...

i know i dont think they can do miracles :rotfl:

[MG]

True but its not the case with everyone, uve got a lot of ppl der now living a better life than most of us here in UK.

if u have money, then u have got a great life there, if u havent then ... :(

Alas most over there don t have alot of money do they?

[ibn suleman]

All the desperado's, brothers & sisters, should go marry back home.

And spare us from all this racket :2hammers:

hmmm so why d'yu read the thread :p

[Ebony]

hmmm so why d'yu read the thread :p

So I can send the desperado's packing back home with their visa's :1popcorn:

[ibn suleman]

My freinds from back home (pakistan) shes taught me how to be chalaak :D

chalaak???? :confused:

there are some, jus like there are some in uk/US , eberyone has bad apples but from what i see and hear, people from back home jus want the passport and citizenship and its really rife, that if u get married from back home, its most likely cos of your passport...

hmmm conflicting opinions....

u know what this proves .....which i wanted to get to earlier...but better this way

CAN EVERYONE STOP GENERALISING :torture:

:D :D :D :D

[Emelianenko]

if u have money, then u have got a great life there, if u havent then ... :(

Alas most over there don t have alot of money do they?
True, but if u go to cities like Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad especially u wont really see much poverty as u would in other parts of Pakistan. But aye if u got the money der den ur laffing :D

[MG]

True, but if u go to cities like Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad especially u wont really see much poverty as u would in other parts of Pakistan. But aye if u got the money der den ur laffing :D

yeh my mate goes every year , and she always goes on about the cushy life people have there cos they got money, i believe u can anyway :)

[imama]

AsslamOAlaikum

well dont think so brothers always have a choice ..like someyms they getforced to mary someone frm backhome.. bcos deir parents want them to not t forget their roots nd hav a bond backhome aswell .. if it makes sense :D

[MG]

AsslamOAlaikum

well dont think so brothers always have a choice ..like someyms they getforced to mary someone frm backhome.. bcos deir parents want them to not t forget their roots nd hav a bond backhome aswell .. if it makes sense :D


u mean the old:

"im having a heart attack, if u dont marry your uncle's dtr from back home, i will die i tell u!" trick?

[H_2]

The other thing is marrying back home and ur other half will want all your wages sent back 'ome to help his/her family :outta:

Thats a wild generalisation but true in most cases!

[MG]

The other thing is marrying back home and ur other half will want all your wages sent back 'ome to help his/her family :outta:


and they will want u to send their daughter (your wife) back home every 3 months back to them and if u dont , "your treating her very badly" ... :D

[H_2]

and they will want u to send their daughter (your wife) back home every 3 months back to them and if u dont , "your treating her very badly" ... :D

Yeh and the rest of it :D

[MG]

Yeh and the rest of it :D

dont wanna scare the brothers thatare packing there bags, to much do we!

[imama]

u mean the old:

"im having a heart attack, if u dont marry your uncle's dtr from back home, i will die i tell u!" trick?

lol ye der sooo many.. ill kick u out of the house or u'll hav no relaionship wid us.. neways list goes on n on...

[H_2]

dont wanna scare the brothers thatare packing there bags, to much do we!

EDIT.

No but really som marriages from back home work out. Depends on the person nd what they want and like. So each to their own i guess!

[Rameez]

I would marry from here, only if i knew somebody who wanted to get married :( (dont want a force marraige from bak home)

[imama]

I would marry from here, only if i knew somebody who wanted to get married :( (dont want a force marraige from bak home)

but say if u get forced.. what would u do?

[MG]

but say if u get forced.. what would u do?

inshallah that doesbt happen but if he does, the marriage is void isnt it?

so many bros and sisters stuck in these sitations, very sad

[Umm 'Umarah]

This thread is tight...you cant judge a person on their nationality.

It is already in th Qadr of Allah.

[Guvna]

This thread is tight...you cant judge a person on their nationality.

It is already in th Qadr of Allah.

thats true.. but inshallah freshie wifeys aint in this takdir! :D

[bint]

gee :smack:

[amatullah_amina]

aslamu alaikum warehmatullah wabarakatu,

i think forced marriage is soooo wrong but its not soooo coomon in pak anymore or anywhere in particular i mean ofcourse there r still some families, unforunately that force their daughter/son in wedloc...but thats not "coomon" anymore , not to mention the prevalence of love marriage ( mostly out of the bound of shariah)...may Allah guide us all...Ameen

walaikum aslam warehmatullah wabraktu

[Rameez]

but say if u get forced.. what would u do?

I hope that doesnt happen sister, i always pray to Allah swt for a partner, just gota be patient eh? I tell my parents i wanna get married, but they are so culture minded, they take me as a joke "too young, etc etc" They have told me if i dont marry back home in the family then i can say "bye bye" to the family :( What can a muslim like me do eh?

[amatullah_amina]

just have this hadith in mind...relating to forced marriage of women.... ( not the full hadith) ....a women came to prophet of Allah (peace b upon him) n told him that she was forced to marry a guy but prophet of Allah (peace b upon him) ofcourse disapproved of it but the women said she'll stay with the man and just wanted to show that women have their rights too..Alhumdulilllah....

walaikum aslam wrwb

[imama]

inshallah that doesbt happen but if he does, the marriage is void isnt it?

so many bros and sisters stuck in these sitations, very sad

true.. i think parents will jus hav to change their attitude

thats true.. but inshallah freshie wifeys aint in this takdir! :D

:shock: doesnt this come under arrogance? :embar: astaghfirullah

[Guvna]

true.. i think parents will jus hav to change their attitude



:shock: doesnt this come under arrogance? :embar: astaghfirullah
astagfirullah.... NE VER!! :D

gee :smack:

kem.. freshie now wichar chai kai hun!??1

[amatullah_amina]

brother rameez i truly understand ur situation ...may Allah make it easy for u...as one shiekh said the walls of culture ( the wrong things in it) are soo difficult to breal....but inshaAllah make dua to Allah...He is Mosssssst Merciful Alhumdulillah....

the same is true for sister frm indo pak origin...i think it is relatively more easier for men than women to tell their parents they want to marry here instead of bak home....

[bint]

astagfirullah.... NE VER!! :D



kem.. freshie now wichar chai kai hun!??1


allah bachawai.:outta:

[imama]

I hope that doesnt happen sister, i always pray to Allah swt for a partner, just gota be patient eh? I tell my parents i wanna get married, but they are so culture minded, they take me as a joke "too young, etc etc" They have told me if i dont marry back home in the family then i can say "bye bye" to the family :( What can a muslim like me do eh?

hmm dats bad brother .. i would advise u 2 leave this topic 4 a bit nd concentrate on ur studies.. after a while they''ll def start talkin abt it.. but leave everything Allah SubhanOTallah.. wtevas in ur fate its going to hapen ill b 4 ur good inshAllah.. so hav full faith in Allah SubhanOTallah.. Allah SubhanOTallah nevers returns ur prayers:)

[Rameez]

As long as i find somebody from here inshAllah, then at least i have a valid reason to ask them. Now all i gota do is wait for that special "wifey" to appear :D

[Rameez]

hmm dats bad brother .. i would advise u 2 leave this topic 4 a bit nd concentrate on ur studies.. after a while they''ll def start talkin abt it.. but leave everything Allah SubhanOTallah.. wtevas in ur fate its going to hapen ill b 4 ur good inshAllah.. so hav full faith in Allah SubhanOTallah.. Allah SubhanOTallah nevers returns ur prayers:)

I wish i could leave this topic, but this is affecting my Deen also, living in this kind of society, it becomes harder day by day!

[Guvna]

allah bachawai.:outta:

dats the spirit girl!!! :D :up:

[Sheesh !]

I think it’s very unfair to generalise in such a way

Sisters whether they’re from back home or here should not be 'differentiated' like that, and they should not be said to be better than one another

Same applies for the brothers

its the traits, qualities, personality and DEEN (PLUS more) that are needed to be identified and should be considered with high importance! Not where they're from!

:rolleyes:

[MG]

I wish i could leave this topic, but this is affecting my Deen also, living in this kind of society, it becomes harder day by day!


akhi u must keep making dua .....and fast regularly to help u inshallah

[Rameez]

akhi u must keep making dua .....and fast regularly to help u inshallah

I do alhumdulilah! those are my only methods of survival at the moment :)

[MG]

I do alhumdulilah! those are my only methods of survival at the moment :)


inshallah u will be fine akhi.

[bint]

dats the spirit girl!!! :D :up:


aye aye:inlove:

[Medievalist]

Pakistan is calling meeeeeee

[Al-Saeed Abdi]

I hope that doesnt happen sister, i always pray to Allah swt for a partner, just gota be patient eh? I tell my parents i wanna get married, but they are so culture minded, they take me as a joke "too young, etc etc" They have told me if i dont marry back home in the family then i can say "bye bye" to the family :( What can a muslim like me do eh?
Keep saying no for 5 years and it will stop.

Ma'aSalaama

[Abu Muslim]

but say if u get forced.. what would u do?

You havn't got much of a choice have you sis.

[bint]

You havn't got much of a choice have you sis.
not really. forced isnt allowed khalas.

it all comes down with the type of situation u are in.

[Medievalist]

obey your parents and be a sacrificial lamb.

[Al-Irhaab]

obey your parents and be a sacrificial lamb.


nah i dont agree.. dont sacrifice ur kids for ur parents or ur jannah for ur parents... if u cant live with someone dont marry them cus of ur parents.... will only cause a burden for them and u on kiyamah....

[Abu Muslim]

not really. forced isnt allowed khalas.

it all comes down with the type of situation u are in.

I know ukhti, I was saying if you are forced, you're forced you dont have a choice. If you have a choice, you're not exactly forced.

Ah don't vorry, forced marriage isn't valid anyways.

[Medievalist]

nah i dont agree.. dont sacrifice ur kids for ur parents or ur jannah for ur parents... if u cant live with someone dont marry them cus of ur parents.... will only cause a burden for them and u on kiyamah....

I dont understand? How will it be a burden on Qiyaamah?

In actual fact Im split in regards to such topics. When my more orthodox face comes out then I go cold and say shut up and listen to your parents. When my softer face comes out my advice would be that respectfully decline.

Either way - maa ki du'aa, jannat ki hawaa.

[Al-Irhaab]

I dont understand? How will it be a burden on Qiyaamah?

In actual fact Im split in regards to such topics. When my more orthodox face comes out then I go cold and say shut up and listen to your parents. When my softer face comes out my advice would be that respectfully decline.

Either way - maa ki du'aa, jannat ki hawaa.

bro because what u want is jannah for ur mother.... so if she is doing something wrong u stop her and correct her teaching... so say ur mothr says dont marry so and so because of some jahil reason... or some nationalistic one...i would rather refuse her request and change her thinking then acede and have her die with assabiyyah in her head... also imagine she has a daughter and naudhubillah she forces her to marry someone she didnt like, allah (SwT) will account her for that, especially imagine if that peson was jahil and fasiq... the best honour for ur mother is to ensure she abides by the laws of islam. then u may not get her duah in this life as much but it will be endless on qiyamah

[Medievalist]

bro because what u want is jannah for ur mother.... so if she is doing something wrong u stop her and correct her teaching... so say ur mothr says dont marry so and so because of some jahil reason... or some nationalistic one...i would rather refuse her request and change her thinking then acede and have her die with assabiyyah in her head... also imagine she has a daughter and naudhubillah she forces her to marry someone she didnt like, allah (SwT) will account her for that, especially imagine if that peson was jahil and fasiq... the best honour for ur mother is to ensure she abides by the laws of islam. then u may not get her duah in this life as much but it will be endless on qiyamah

I agree and disagree with u bruv at the same time. First off if a mother was forcing her daughter, then the daughter took my advice and obeyed her mother and became a sacrificial lamb then her mother would not be guilty of forcing her but rather the child would get her parents du'as.

If the parents choose completely unsuitable matches (and these are really very rare in my experience) then OBVIOUSLY she shouldnt be marrying some dirty kafir, or a fasiqfajir type person. But in general girls and boys can be too picky - and if you find someone thats perfect for you even then strangle that emotion and submit to your parents.

And about jahil concepts in the parents - one can change those without refusing to marry bruv. Be careful what you say - I understand what you're saying - but others may take it as an excuse to engage in open rebellion against the social order. :rolleyes:

Sometimes in what looks like bad there can be good. Basically - strangle any emotion or desires you have folks - just suffocate them :up:

[Ibn-e-Muslim]

:crying2:
yah right,:D off with the lot of yah. some of the replies in the forum lately mekin me think im walking with cavemen :smack:
Ameen

[*Muhammad*]

Jazak'Allah for the correction sis, I was just listening to it and thought I heard it as wal quran ul majeed. Tank you.

get the Quraan with its transliteration if u want links let me know or just google Quran + transliteration

[Fais]

i think this thread is degenerating into something farcical...does it have a point?

boys who wanna go back home, go..if u dnt then stay and marry here

khalas

What if your parents want you to go back home and get married, what does one do :eek3:

not as worrying as ur posts... and dont act like u dont know what im talking abt :torture:

lol

:D i know :D

:eek: ....... NO WAY!

:eek: i sincerely hope u don't

I second that :shock: ... LOL ... Wouldn't be funny anymore ... would be mass juthees flying around :(

[Eemaan]

:eek: i sincerely hope u don't

:D yah i do

Fais you too young for this thread. get back in yer cot. im not sending you back home to get shaadied, me and mum agreed last night .


:inlove:

[MG]

What if your parents want you to go back home and get married, what does one do :eek3:





say no ?

give your reasons?

thing is some paretns are very good at manipulating their childrena dn making them feel guilty.

Some paretns seem to care more about wat uncleji back home will think than wether their child si compatible with the othr person

[Fais]

:D yah i do

Fais you too young for this thread. get back in yer cot. im not sending you back home to get shaadied, me and mum agreed last night .


:inlove:

Im not too young :(

:shock: .. is it the with the girl next door? :inlove:

Astagfirullah im joking :D

[Fais]

say no ?

give your reasons?

thing is some paretns are very good at manipulating their childrena dn making them feel guilty.

Some paretns seem to care more about wat uncleji back home will think than wether their child si compatible with the othr person

Im not talking about me. Am just saying generally.

Even if you say no. No reason will be good enough trust me on that ive seen it all before. You can say what you want they will just keep degrading the sisters from your locality and saying the back home ones are better. Ive been there when these debates been going on. I totally disagree with that. You get bad ppl everywhere.

But where do you draw the line to say no. You need your parents. But if they aint understanding what do you do :scratch:

[MG]

Im not talking about me. Am just saying generally.

Even if you say no. No reason will be good enough trust me on that ive seen it all before. You can say what you want they will just keep degrading the sisters from your locality and saying the back home ones are better. Ive been there when these debates been going on. I totally disagree with that. You get bad ppl everywhere.

But where do you draw the line to say no. You need your parents. But if they aint understanding what do you do :scratch:

a very difficult place to be in akhi.

pwersonally wouldnt go against my parents but i would try my darn best to make them see my way, i would contulously make dua and once i feel i done everything i possibly could ,i would leave the sitation to the qadr of allah swt but we from our side have to try to change things b4 leaving it to qadr of allah swt

[Fais]

a very difficult place to be in akhi.

pwersonally wouldnt go against my parents but i would try my darn best to make them see my way, i would contulously make dua and once i feel i done everything i possibly could ,i would leave the sitation to the qadr of allah swt but we from our side have to try to change things b4 leaving it to qadr of allah swt

Yes i agree with you.

Alhumdulillah, Im not in the situation :up:

[MG]

Yes i agree with you.

Alhumdulillah, Im not in the situation :up:


phew!

for aminute there i thought u was :rubeyes:

[Rameez]

say no ?

give your reasons?

thing is some paretns are very good at manipulating their childrena dn making them feel guilty.

Some paretns seem to care more about wat uncleji back home will think than wether their child si compatible with the othr person

So true sister, my parents all they care about is their so called "Respect" from back home. Every time i say i wanna marry from here they say "Whats the point us raising you?" They use so much more then just that, they really do make you feal guilty. Ah well il keep making duas inshAllah :)

[Eemaan]

phew!

for aminute there i thought u was :rubeyes:

there are plenty of other folk in this position, i see it with young kids at work and it makes me so sad. more commonly with the girls mysteriously disappearing mid GCSEs :(

[Eemaan]

So true sister, my parents all they care about is their so called "Respect" from back home. Every time i say i wanna marry from here they say "Whats the point us raising you?" They use so much more then just that, they really do make you feal guilty. Ah well il keep making duas inshAllah :)

parents can be pro at using emptional blackmail but ihraabs point puts it into perspective nicely

bro because what u want is jannah for ur mother.... so if she is doing something wrong u stop her and correct her teaching... so say ur mothr says dont marry so and so because of some jahil reason... or some nationalistic one...i would rather refuse her request and change her thinking then acede and have her die with assabiyyah in her head... also imagine she has a daughter and naudhubillah she forces her to marry someone she didnt like, allah (SwT) will account her for that, especially imagine if that peson was jahil and fasiq... the best honour for ur mother is to ensure she abides by the laws of islam. then u may not get her duah in this life as much but it will be endless on qiyamah

[Fais]

phew!

for aminute there i thought u was :rubeyes:

lol, if i was in that situation, i get my brothers to speak to my parents :D ... My dad wouldn't have a problem :up: ... or i would proberly get married twice :rolleyes: ... i think im still along way away from that atm tho :)

[`asiya]

So true sister, my parents all they care about is their so called "Respect" from back home. Every time i say i wanna marry from here they say "Whats the point us raising you?" They use so much more then just that, they really do make you feal guilty. Ah well il keep making duas inshAllah :)

thats really sad and this emotional blackmail can filter right down from such parents to their sons in some cases, who also think that others, namely their wives, and after that their daughters and sons, are simply there for their use and to please them and their desires, and they have no thought for how the other person feels.a lot of excuses are made for such parents attitudes, may Allah ta ala guide them, but this jahil thinking needs to be stomped on as muslims we had 1400 years to get over such attitudes, May Allah ta ala protect this ummah amin. the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said "none of you truely believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself" that goes for parents attitudes towards their children too.

[Fais]

So true sister, my parents all they care about is their so called "Respect" from back home. Every time i say i wanna marry from here they say "Whats the point us raising you?" They use so much more then just that, they really do make you feal guilty. Ah well il keep making duas inshAllah :)

Yea keep making dua bro. Thats spot on bro ...

there are plenty of other folk in this position, i see it with young kids at work and it makes me so sad. more commonly with the girls mysteriously disappearing mid GCSEs :(

That really gets me angry, especially when you hear of 15 year old girls get taken back home to get married to someone they never met before alot older than them and against their will. Its not Islamic.

[Muttaqi]

I agree that people should stand up against anti-Islamic oppression even if it comes from parents, as parents will be accountable on the day of judgement.

I know someone very close to me who was forced to marry, and her husband is still 'back home' so to speak, and has been there for the last 4 years. She was blackmailed into marrying him, and he doesn't have a good reputation. She became very ill and got beats from her mother, for not calling him over and she was working as well. She has considered khula and divorce but he says he will only divorce her if she enables him to get a visa....and her parents are still pressurising her and she says she can't take it any more so she will deal with it and live with him and see if it works out, But she is extremely unhappy. I consider this sister to be very strong though mashAllah, because of what she has been through, may Allah bless her and ease her affairs ameen.

I know someone else who was pressurised, and her relatives from her extended family nearly caused a split between her mother and father and there were arguments and blackmail in her house everyday. She stuck to her guns, and stood up for what she believed and just became indifferent to the threats and put her foot down and 'rebelled against the social disorder' :D She made lots of du'a and stood firm on what she knew what was right.Her parents eventually accepeted her wishes, and she is now happily married to a good brother, who her parents really like as well, mashAllah.

[Na'eemah]

If your parents try toget you married in Pakistan, theres a number you ca ncall and the police (or some other person with the appropriate authority) comes and rescues you :D

If this fails, just scream and shout :) :S

[Eemaan]

That really gets me angry, especially when you hear of 15 year old girls get taken back home to get married to someone they never met before alot older than them and against their will. Its not Islamic.

boys too bro

at the last school i worked at, a girl rang in sobbing from Manchester airport begging the school for help. she was being taken abraod to get married and it was just devastating. dont know what happened to her.

another 16 year lass i taught admittedly had boyfirends and she was send back home and packing by parents. i saw her recently and mashallah she seemed happy and well and she had lost her immaturity.

[`asiya]

may Allah ta ala protect her and all such sisters and brothers and bring them ease amin, i think britian should stop handing out visas, and passports after only 5 years ( make it 30 years of marriage then u get a passport) its a nightmare its just all too easy for someone to fake their marriage without even their future husband or wife knowing their true intention, taking the free passport out of the eqaution would prevent this kind of problem, which is absolutely rife, i advise all muslim british passport holders Dont get married in the registry office!!!! keep it as Islamic nikkah only.

[ibn suleman]

:(

thats so sad that this stil happens,,its haraam to marry a daughter against her will... :(

[`asiya]

:(

thats so sad that this stil happens,,its haraam to marry a daughter against her will... :(

and islamically i understand that a forced marriage is immediately anulled and therefore invalid and the couple are then living in zinnah so thats something to think about ....

[Eemaan]

worst part of my job: forced marraiges and child abuse. i

horrid stuff.

[Guvna]

worst part of my job: forced marraiges and child abuse. i

horrid stuff.


damnnnn thats tuff!!! :(

[nami]

I'm a caveman of ummah.com! :D looks like I will be going back home to get married then :coolbro:

[Fais]

and islamically i understand that a forced marriage is immediately anulled and therefore invalid and the couple are then living in zinnah so thats something to think about ....

:eek: .. that is somthing to think about.

worst part of my job: forced marraiges and child abuse. i

horrid stuff.

I would really hate to do that job.

[Eemaan]

damnnnn thats tuff!!! :(

dont ever become a teacher. you start hating men.

[Guvna]

dont ever become a teacher. you start hating men.

and here i was... just thinking of doing ma PGCE!!! :rubeyes:
i honestly am thinking about it... Secondary/College!!!?!?

[Eemaan]

and here i was... just thinking of doing ma PGCE!!! :rubeyes:
i honestly am thinking about it... Secondary/College!!!?!?

really? mashallah we need more male muslim teachers. they are fantastic and inspirational when their not sleeping in the staffroom. ICT right?

go guv! you get paid for it too

prepare to hate men though :D

[Fais]

1 of my bro's met his Wife on net. Suhanallah when he told me how i was laughing for ages it was funny, It was crazy.They were hectic times but Alhumdulillah they married and have a Beautiful Son now Mashallah.

And my other bro got married from back home, And Alhumdulillah hes very happy too.

So i have first class proof that both can work but i personally think if you get forced into it, very slim chance of it working. No doubt success come From Allah.

May Allah make it easy for all of us. Ameen.

[Na'eemah]

dont ever become a teacher. you start hating men.

:eek:

*Wants to be a teacher*

[Refugee]

:crying2:

yah right,:D off with the lot of yah. some of the replies in the forum lately mekin me think im walking with cavemen :smack:

You arent talking about me now are you

[Eemaan]

1 of my bro's met his Wife on net. Suhanallah when he told me how i was laughing for ages it was funny, It was crazy.They were hectic times but Alhumdulillah they married and have a Beautiful Son now Mashallah.

And my other bro got married from back home, And Alhumdulillah hes very happy too.

So i have first class proof that both can work but i personally think if you get forced into it, very slim chance of it working. No doubt success come From Allah.

May Allah make it easy for all of us. Ameen.

mashallah thats lovely bro and really positive :up:


You arent talking about me now are you

:D no bro your safe for at least two weeks

:eek:

*Wants to be a teacher*

hmmm, its those fathers and brothers you know are perpetrators of caveman brutalities that you you ignore or sneer at and generally loathe. mums sometimes too.

these are uncle jees im talki about naims with big darees and on masjid commitees.

[seven]

dont ever become a teacher. you start hating men.
or kids :banghead:

[Ibn-e-Muslim]

what about brothers already home :scratch:
they r cavemen? :eek:

[Ebony]

dont ever become a teacher. you start hating men.


Or....is it that men haters go into teaching? :1popcorn:

I have reason to believe it could be the above :outta:

[Fais]

Or....is it that men haters go into teaching? :1popcorn:

I have reason to believe it could be the above :outta:

Yea, For the first time we can agree on something :up:

[Ebony]

You know what....I can't believe some of the backward behaviours and attitudes I came across in some people in England.

Forced marriages here are so rare...blink and you'd miss them. Most girls go into higher/further ed - its not even something you'd hear that was discouraged, its actively encouraged by parents, girls work full time jobs, have beautiful well mannered children and loving husbands etc etc

Couldn't believe some of the things I heard when downsouth...you'd think they were living in a village on some remote island :help:

[Al-Irhaab]

and islamically i understand that a forced marriage is immediately anulled and therefore invalid and the couple are then living in zinnah so thats something to think about ....

the marriage is not immediately annulled the wife has the choice whether to keep with it or end it.... so its not zina...

[H_2]

these are uncle jees im talki about naims with big darees and on masjid commitees.

Yea i know the type :rolleyes:

[MG]

worst part of my job: forced marraiges and child abuse. i

horrid stuff.


child abuse part of my job too, wen u have ur own child and see the abuse that goes on outside it makes u sooooooo :( and wanna cry.

some really sick people out there,we dont know how lucky we are alhumdulillah.

[Chained_Water]

Or....is it that men haters go into teaching? :1popcorn:

I have reason to believe it could be the above :outta:
:D I'm a teacher too.. so maybe that will add more weight to your hypothesis :torture:

[Eemaan]

Or....is it that men haters go into teaching? :1popcorn:

I have reason to believe it could be the above :outta:

im not fully fledged man hater yet sorry sis :(


Yea i know the type :rolleyes:

yeah and then these molestors/rapists have the nerve to walk into school, talk to me like i care and say 'beti, shes lying and making this up. for the sake of our izzat tell her to listen to her parents' :rolleyes:

i saw this same dad at the masjid a few days later and wanted to spit on him.

[Ebony]

:D I'm a teacher too.. so maybe that will add more weight to your hypothesis :torture:
I'll add you to my growing list :D

[Fais]

yeah and then these molestors/rapists have the nerve to walk into school, talk to me like i care and say 'beti, shes lying and making this up. for the sake of our izzat tell her to listen to her parents' :rolleyes:

i saw this same dad at the masjid a few days later and wanted to spit on him.

:shock: .. i would say no. Alhumdulillah there alot of tough bro's around my area who are on the deen. So any probs and i just call them :rotfl:

[Eemaan]

:shock: .. i would say no. Alhumdulillah there alot of tough bro's around my area who are on the deen. So any probs and i just call them :rotfl:

no to what?

ive never seen a kid pursue a sexual assault or rape case :( not enough community support and schools are just puppets to social services who have done jack all

[H_2]

im not fully fledged man hater yet sorry sis :(




yeah and then these molestors/rapists have the nerve to walk into school, talk to me like i care and say 'beti, shes lying and making this up. for the sake of our izzat tell her to listen to her parents' :rolleyes:

i saw this same dad at the masjid a few days later and wanted to spit on him.

Yea i know how u feel. Makes ur blood boil dont it when elders like that abuse their position nd think they can get away with it!

[Medievalist]

OK - so forced marriages are wrong. But what would folks do in this situation :

Daughter is lewd - parents explain to her right and wrong. Daughter continues in immorality and refuses to marry perfectly good rishtey come and go and girl messing around still?

From what I've seen the solution has been to pack her back home, get her married off (if that means mother dearest pinching her to say yes at the time of nikah then so be it) leave her there for 5/6 years and when she's suddar'd down - bring her and her husband to uk.

win win!!

[H_2]

no to what?

ive never seen a kid pursue a sexual assault or rape case :( not enough community support and schools are just puppets to social services who have done jack all

You wonder why these cases are'nt persued. The girl would be ostracised by her family and community and cast out. It makes me mad how the asian community close ranks on anyone who they dont like or say anything they dont want to hear.

[Eemaan]

OK - so forced marriages are wrong. But what would folks do in this situation :

Daughter is lewd - parents explain to her right and wrong. Daughter continues in immorality and refuses to marry perfectly good rishtey come and go and girl messing around still?

From what I've seen the solution has been to pack her back home, get her married off (if that means mother dearest pinching her to say yes at the time of nikah then so be it) leave her there for 5/6 years and when she's suddar'd down - bring her and her husband to uk.

win win!!


^^lose lose, forced marraiges are not halaal :rolleyes:

[ur_yusra]

OK - so forced marriages are wrong. But what would folks do in this situation :

Daughter is lewd - parents explain to her right and wrong. Daughter continues in immorality and refuses to marry perfectly good rishtey come and go and girl messing around still?

From what I've seen the solution has been to pack her back home, get her married off (if that means mother dearest pinching her to say yes at the time of nikah then so be it) leave her there for 5/6 years and when she's suddar'd down - bring her and her husband to uk.

win win!!

What if the son is lewd :rolleyes:

[Eemaan]

You wonder why these cases are'nt persued. The girl would be ostracised by her family and community and cast out. It makes me mad how the asian community close ranks on anyone who they dont like or say anything they dont want to hear.

bro, the one child who i know actually pursued this and reported her father for his filth is now in a psychiatric institution admitted by her mother.

shes attempted suicide that many times, wasnt alot anyone could do. she write to me every eid and i just feel so numb over it.

[Medievalist]

What if the son is lewd :rolleyes:

reject maal.

kick him out - OR one person we know sent his son back home in the village and he spent 6 years tending goats - wudnt get any money from uk and now he is an amazing brother.

Try that - but parents need to be harder on the sons, no money and no amenities cos give them a tiny bit and they end up doing one.

[H_2]

bro, the one child who i know actually pursued this and reported her father for his filth is now in a psychiatric institution admitted by her mother.

shes attempted suicide that many times, wasnt alot anyone could do. she write to me every eid and i just feel so numb over it.

Thats so Bad! Now shes worse off. Makes u think wouldnt it hav been better to not persue the case and move her away from her father. Poor girl!

[Medievalist]

H2 - EEMAAN:

Its up to people with a sense of compassion to break outta that cultural rubbish where the victim is ostracised. Seriously some parts of our culture make me wanna use expletives really badly. :torture:

[Eemaan]

Thats so Bad! Now shes worse off. Makes u think wouldnt it hav been better to not persue the case and move her away from her father. Poor girl!

she did, social services being the wonder they are in this country placed her in a hostel with junkies and prostitutes.

[Fais]

no to what?

ive never seen a kid pursue a sexual assault or rape case :( not enough community support and schools are just puppets to social services who have done jack all

I would just call the local Mufti or someone ... Alhumdulillah we have a lot of humble brothers who are willing to go out of there way and help.

OK - so forced marriages are wrong. But what would folks do in this situation :

Daughter is lewd - parents explain to her right and wrong. Daughter continues in immorality and refuses to marry perfectly good rishtey come and go and girl messing around still?

From what I've seen the solution has been to pack her back home, get her married off (if that means mother dearest pinching her to say yes at the time of nikah then so be it) leave her there for 5/6 years and when she's suddar'd down - bring her and her husband to uk.

win win!!

Thats a difficult situation to be in. But i dont think that is the solution. Because Parents do that with the brothers to. And all they do is end up ruining a sisters life by bring the sister over then getting a girlfriend cheating and all of that. It can be the same with the sister who has got that problem.

[H_2]

reject maal.

kick him out - OR one person we know sent his son back home in the village and he spent 6 years tending goats - wudnt get any money from uk and now he is an amazing brother.

Try that - but parents need to be harder on the sons, no money and no amenities cos give them a tiny bit and they end up doing one.

Yeh but the parents usually hav the attitude of leave him to it, hes a lad. We'll send him back home to get married and then he'll be ok :rolleyes:

[H_2]

she did, social services being the wonder they are in this country placed her in a hostel with junkies and prostitutes.

Yea hard knocks of life innit?

[Eemaan]

I would just call the local Mufti or someone ... Alhumdulillah we have a lot of humble brothers who are willing to go out of there way and help.
.

mollys and muftis our end usally dont wanna know. dirty and risque stuff like this tarnishes reputations and 'upsets' the community.

[Medievalist]

Yeh but the parents usually hav the attitude of leave him to it, hes a lad. We'll send him back home to get married and then he'll be ok :rolleyes:

I knw thats the attitude people have but I for one dont buy it. I want sons and daughters who are pure - my sons have to be just as pure as my daughters. I cant stand lewdity - it sickens me.

[Medievalist]

mollys and muftis our end usally dont wanna know. dirty and risque stuff like this tarnises reputations and 'upsets' the community.

yr from dbury?

[MG]

she did, social services being the wonder they are in this country placed her in a hostel with junkies and prostitutes.



social services have alot to account for as well inregards to how the communities are today :rolleyes:

[H_2]

I knw thats the attitude people have but I for one dont buy it. I want sons and daughters who are pure - my sons have to be just as pure as my daughters. I cant stand lewdity - it sickens me.

Yea exactly. The 'rents should try and sort out their son. If they get him married and he still continues to mess around. Whos gonna lose? The girl enit and the parents are gonna be concerned that he's not looking after his wife and it wil be extra headache for them!

[Fais]

mollys and muftis our end usally dont wanna know. dirty and risque stuff like this tarnises reputations and 'upsets' the community.

... Our Mufti's a Dude man. Mashallah hes such a nice humble person. I cant talk to the older age buddahs because they got a different mentality but i can talk to him coz hes cool :coolbro:, he sits with the younger lot the bros in there early twenties and in there teens and speaks to them about alot of different things and the reason we can talk to him is because he knows english and thats a sad reality. Most of the Imams of Mosque's in England dont know Engish and i believe that its one of the reason we have such a problem between the elder generation and the younger one.

We also have the tough bros who no1 messes with any problems and i just call them :D

[H_2]

... Our Mufti's a Dude man. Mashallah hes such a nice humble person. I cant talk to the older age buddahs because they got a different mentality but i can talk to him coz hes cool :coolbro:, he sits with the younger lot the bros in there early twenties and in there teens and speaks to them about alot of different things and the reason we can talk to him is because he knows english and thats a sad reality. Most of the Imams of Mosque's in England dont know Engish and i believe that its one of the reason we have such a problem between the elder generation and the younger one.

We also have the tough bros who no1 messes with any problems and i just call them :D

Yea ^ but whats that got to do with molvis and muftis not wanting to get involved in cases like this?

[Fais]

Yea ^ but whats that got to do with molvis and muftis not wanting to get involved in cases like this?

Yea thats my point .. we dont have them down our end :p

[Eemaan]

... Our Mufti's a Dude man. Mashallah hes such a nice humble person. I cant talk to the older age buddahs because they got a different mentality but i can talk to him coz hes cool :coolbro:, he sits with the younger lot the bros in there early twenties and in there teens and speaks to them about alot of different things and the reason we can talk to him is because he knows english and thats a sad reality. Most of the Imams of Mosque's in England dont know Engish and i believe that its one of the reason we have such a problem between the elder generation and the younger one.

We also have the tough bros who no1 messes with any problems and i just call them :D

the language and cultural barrier has a lot to do with it. mollys back home geenrally dont wanna know. your molly sounds kewl mashallah :up:


social services have alot to account for as well inregards to how the communities are today :rolleyes:

their level of indifferance for cases reported amazes me, i understand how doing a job year in year out can desensitize a person to its horrors, but social workers are in a alugue of their own.

[Ebony]

i understand how doing a job year in year out can desensitize a person to its horrors, but social workers are in a alugue of their own.

Its not only desenstisation, its burn out, dissatisfaction with the job, the team, pay etc its also the amount of red tape they have to endure :help:

No excuse for slacking though :nono:

[Chained_Water]

their level of indifferance for cases reported amazes me, i understand how doing a job year in year out can desensitize a person to its horrors, but social workers are in a alugue of their own.
come on sis.. massive generalisation there :eek3: ..ppl say the same about teachers and how they hate kids and don't give a damn about them.

maybe social services have their own hands tied by lack of evidence, the kids not being willing to pursue things, not wanting to create more problems for the kids.. also the fact not enough people are willing to foster or adopt obviously affects where kids are placed

[H_2]

Yea thats my point .. we dont have them down our end :p

Yea ok...good for you then :D :up:

[ibn suleman]

:(

what happened to the ummah :(

[H_2]

:(

what happened to the ummah :(


:scratch:

[ibn suleman]

:scratch:

the attitude of some muftis, molvis, elders.... etc..
:(

[Fais]

Yea ok...good for you then :D :up:

Yea its very good for the community because we can communicate with locals who aren't muslims too. We invited ppl for some food during Ramadan at the Masjid that was really good :D

[Fais]

the attitude of some muftis, molvis, elders.... etc..
:(

Yah im shocked at some of the stuff im hearing :rubeyes:

[Eemaan]

come on sis.. massive generalisation there :eek3: ..ppl say the same about teachers and how they hate kids and don't give a damn about them.

maybe social services have their own hands tied by lack of evidence, the kids not being willing to pursue things, not wanting to create more problems for the kids.. also the fact not enough people are willing to foster or adopt obviously affects where kids are placed

yah i know guilty. all my dealings with social services at work has been negative. and yah ure right it is a generalisation.

like the social worker for the victoria climbie case? she was working on dozens of cases at the same time and they were just piling up on her desk. how the hell does that happen?

[H_2]

Yea its very good for the community because we can communicate with locals who aren't muslims too. We invited ppl for some food during Ramadan at the Masjid that was really good :D


Which parts of London u from again?

[Fais]

Which parts of London u from again?

Junction 11 M25

[Ebony]

like the social worker for the victoria climbie case? she was working on dozens of cases at the same time and they were just piling up on her desk. how the hell does that happen?

Its actually very common for them to have heavy caseloads...and they moan like crazy about it, but can't do much :(

[H_2]

Junction 11 M25


Right ok......will have to come down one of the days! C what all the fuss is about :p

[Eemaan]

Its actually very common for them to have heavy caseloads...and they moan like crazy about it, but can't do much :(

yah thats what i mean. the quality of work is inevitably going to diminish. and we then we see the spawn of this evil within our communities

[Fais]

Right ok......will have to come down one of the days! C what all the fuss is about :p

... Sure bro no prob :up:

[H_2]

... Sure bro no prob :up:

Good :D

[Eemaan]

so how many bros have we persuaded to go back home in the past 16 hours?


:D

[Fais]

so how many bros have we persuaded to go back home in the past 16 hours?


:D


ME ME and .. ME!

[Eemaan]

ME ME and .. ME!

sit down you :mad: too over enthusiastic to get shaadied! :55:

[Fais]

sit down you :mad: too over enthusiastic to get shaadied! :55:

:nercous: .. i was only joking. Ill wait .. its ok .. but i want to get married 4 times if i have to wait :D

nd you gonna have to find me 2 of them :rotfl:

[Lost_Princess]

if u want rightious kids who walk on the right path then u have to startfrom when they are yonug eg if u had a tree and u kept straightening the trunk when it was younger then when its older and harder it will still be straight but if u leave it and dont straighten it then it would grow crooked and u cant straighten a tree then it will be too late:)

wats a shaadied ?

[(*_Hamzah]

wats a shaadied ?

Married :embar: in Urdu, even a channel on SKY called Shaddi TV :rubeyes:

[Eemaan]

if u want rightious kids who walk on the right path then u have to startfrom when they are yonug eg if u had a tree and u kept straightening the trunk when it was younger then when its older and harder it will still be straight but if u leave it and dont straighten it then it would grow crooked and u cant straighten a tree then it will be too late:)

wats a shaadied ?

lost princess you sound like my abu jee :rubeyes:

Married :embar: in Urdu, even a channel on SKY called Shaddi TV :rubeyes:

why you blushing shazam :1popcorn: had a proposal or summat?

[MG]

Married :embar: in Urdu, even a channel on SKY called Shaddi TV :rubeyes:

yehwheres that channel gone, its vanished :rubeyes:

[Fais]

yehwheres that channel gone, its vanished :rubeyes:

Good.

[Fais]

... People really did do that. My mum watched it sometimes and she used to get angry as i was constantly laughing throughout the show :rotfl: .... But i dont want it back :mad:

[Fais]

lol...i aint giving it coz i know my mum would respond for sure. lol

[Fais]

:eek: ... What you like about that Channel anyway... the clothes and what ppl wearing i guess ... Ive always asked the question .. whats so good about a wedding film ... they all the same and very boring unless its some in the families then you can watch it but apart from that its all boring.

[Fais]

... lol yea right ... i bet you can watch 10 in a row even if you dont know who the ppl are.

[Eemaan]

:1popcorn:

[Guvna]

:1popcorn:

Salammsss and mornin all!!

[Fais]

:1popcorn:

Yea bet you 1 of them too lol.

Salammsss and mornin all!!

:wswrwb:

How you doing bro?

you ok?

no way
, cant watch 3 hours of jus people eating pilau

Yea thats what the yall say :rolleyes: :D